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#723750
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Here's a suggestion, for RotJ-R and PT-R how about having two official threads, one for updates and one for suggestions.

I almost never use ignore features on forums like this.  

Actually, I've never used the ignore feature on forums like this.  I used it for the first time in the past month for a couple of people who are constantly harping and the majority of the time their input.....jeez, just learn how to do it and make your own fanedit.  

It's really tedious having to wade through pages of bickering posts to try to find some news and it would be one thing if these posts actually advanced the project but about 90% of the time they don't.

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#719868
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I'm really glad to hear that the next version has the repaired version of the scene.  One is able argue either way for the flow of the structure of the scene based on how it is played out, for me the issue is continuity.  As a twelve year old kid I was noticing that C3PO's behavior was not consistent throughout the scene and it has always been a speed bump watching the scene.

When I first laid hands on Ady's cut the first thing that I looked for was the scene in the Death Star where Darth Vader is talking and then stops talking but then shakes his fist for emphasis.  It amazes me that with all of the times that the movies have been tweaked that GL has never fixed that, it can't be THAT much work.  This scene was the continuity flub that bugged me the most.

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#705052
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Help: looking for... the best Revenge of the Sith Edit as a companion to The Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom.
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I recently made my own cut which eliminates every on-camera shot of General Grevious.  He is a McGuffin whose sole purpose is to isolate Skywalker to make him more vulnerable to Palpatine's manipulations.  He is now only referred to and never seen.

I used the ADM Extended Edition as my base as I wanted the inclusion of the birth of the rebellion scenes. I also cut the silly Matrix style part of the lightsaber duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan.  I'll probably make more trims after I've watched it a few times, GG just had to go.....loathe him more than Jar Jar Binks.

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#671077
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Ryan McAvoy said:

Is it just me or has Adywan sculpted a c*ck and B*lls into the lower left rock face?

Probably just me...

 

Ah s*** jeez now we're going to get eight pages about how in the original edition the left nut was bigger but you could only see 40% of it because of the bad matte painting but that was ok because it is after all a defect of GOUT.  It was however a blue ball and should have been grey and the explosion aka money shot was too big because it was really supposed to be used for the death star blowing up and not a TIE fighter.

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#667888
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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I don't know if you ever click on the signatures on some of the posts in this forum.  I clicked on one and it took me to a Facebook page for someone who works at ILM (and has for some time).  If you're worried about someone at ILM knowing about fanedits, that ship has long sailed.

 

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#663137
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit (Released)
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The book makes it pretty clear that Lucas wanted what I will call a hood ornament of a director, specifically one who knew his place.  They state in one paragraph that I read last night that he was actively trying to replicate a television model of production as opposed to a film industry model as far as the relationship between the producer and the director (I was ignorant that there were even differences).

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#663075
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit (Released)
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Just wanted to bump this thread back up a bit.

I am reading  the new Rinzler book and quite honestly I can't stop thinking about this edit while reading the book.  So much of what they got wrong, well, we all got to see it.  Your fanedit has gone a long way to restoring this movie to something that actually fits in the OT and I actually enjoy watching this movie now.

It is interesting to read how a lot of people at the preproduction phase are pretty much WTF about the ewoks.  Love it that McQuarrie basically said, I'm not abeting this by making art of it and left the work to others.

I am a huge David Lynch fan and I am actually happy that he didn't direct this.  Lucas had a way that he wanted to go with this and hell or high water that was going to happen - cute and Ewoks.  I keep reading the book and it blows me away that as smart as he is that he can't reconcile the serious nature of a movie where a man essentially is told the solution to the universe's problems is to murder his father and his father's boss and the rest of what he did.  Here, let's have a belching toad thinger.  It's not yin and yang, it's two north poles pushing against each other.

I was delighted to read that they considered Peter Weir as I am a huge fan of his film Fearless.  Also am glad that he didn't work on this as his movies tend to be about the interior landscapes of his protagonists and while that would have served the Luke story exceptionally well again the clash with the Ewoks would have eviscerated anything that Mr. Weir's talent brought to the production to elevate it to the quality of say TESB.

Thanks again for your edit. If you ever tinker with it more I'd really like links.  There is only one thing that I would change with your last iteration but it's something that I know you feel strongly about not including as much as possible.

 

 

 

 

 

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#659243
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Info &amp; Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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We don't know in the scope of the six movies that it took twenty years to make the "first" Death Star.

It's entirely possible that there were earlier versions that didn't work, maybe they fired up the superlaser and it tanked the whole thing.   Back to the drawing board as they say.  Perhaps they made one that was sabotaged ("there'll be no one to stop us this time......").

What we do know is that there is 20 years between trilogies and that one is seen under construction at the end of #3.  That doesn't mean that the one that you see at the end of #3 is the same one in #4.

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#642478
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit (Released)
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I agree that it gives Luke motivation to re-enter the battle.  I just think that this is a case of "less is more."  A lot of the Ben scene exists to tell you that Leia is Luke's sister but really, do we need to have it spelled out for us?   When I saw 5 when it came out the "there is another" was enough and I don't think that there was a Star Wars nut who didn't remember that line going into 6.  If one watches them 1-2-3-4-5-6 then one already knows about the twins.  

If you leave things as just 4-5-6- it provides a super payoff as the viewer goes all the way through 6 thinking, huh?  aren't they going to tie up this whole "there is another thing?"  Uh.....the end of the movie is coming up and they still haven't done anything with that.  BAM....your feelings for them are strong....especially for....sister.  A great payoff in my opinion and to make it the first time Luke hears this gives a bit more backbone to him losing his s*** for a bit.  It becomes a purely visceral reaction because he hasn't had time to digest the new information, he's already in fight or flight mode and this pushes his button just so.  A big part of the movie is the visual imagery, Luke in black, is he going to swing to the dark side or the light.  So Leia is threatened and he blows it and almost kills Vader and comes around when Palpy goads him.  It perpetuates playing up Luke being not entirely secure from the dark side right up to when he tosses his saber.

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#642140
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit (Released)
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I liked it that you cut the Ben scene entirely.  There is too much reiteration and not enough new information (the same is applicable to the Yoda scene and I appreciated the trims there as well)

I never minded the Luke/Leia brother/sister thing.  In my opinion you set it up very nicely for the "there is another line" from TESB to be resolved and explained during the saber fight at the end; instead of Yoda or Ben giving this revelation to Luke it could be played out as a simultaneous event for both father and brother. 

Just my two cents.

I really like your edit and hope that you don't abandon finessing it  In all honesty I find it a preferable watch to the original product (and it's various GL fanedits).

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#639831
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TM2YC's 'Star Wars: Reborn' PT fan edits (PM me for new ROTS link!) (Released)
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I'd appreciate the links, thanks. 

I understand that some people like GG, I just loathe that character.  I am actually able to stomach JJB more than GG.  I think that the trimming to ROTS to accommodate removing GG entirely would be severe but it is doable.  He is referred to but never seen.  He is a McGuffin and the presence is overstated in the movie.  ROTS is about the fall of Anakin Skywalker and the movie should focus on that plotline more than anything else.  GG exists solely to remove Obi Wan and isolate Skywalker.  We don't need to see GG, we just need to sideline OBWK.  That's my take on it.....does anyone know of a ROTS edit out there that is actively being shared with GG removed entirely?  I would love to see one and have a feel for how the movie flows without all those scenes.

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#639781
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TM2YC's 'Star Wars: Reborn' PT fan edits (PM me for new ROTS link!) (Released)
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Do you have a cutlist for ROTS?  Mostly for me two requirements for a ROTS cut are reinstatement of the birth of the rebellion scenes and the entire removal of Greivous.

I am interested in links for AOTC, not entirely what I have in mind for a cut if I ever get around to trying it but some of what you've done is spot on with my ideas.

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#639778
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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IIRC the story is that Mark Hamill had a car accident in between IV and the filming of V starting and the wampa attack was a device to facilitate this.

 

Jeez, there's a thread all about this on Snopes.  I'll let the big boys hash this one out.

 

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=75;t=001029;p=0

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#637082
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Return of the Jedi: Radical Re-Edit (Released)
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I hopscotched around the workprint last night, mostly trying to hunt out the large changes.

I think it is really impressive and enjoyed what I saw a lot and would certainly like to see where you take this.

I was quite impressed with how you addressed the Endor battle (ground theater).  I always imagined the cut scene on the Death Star focused on the space battle and I like how it was tied in with the fanfilm work of stormtroopers vs. rebels.  I've heard other people opine about having Boba Fett vs Han worked in here and how you did this was quite engaging.  I realize that based on your source material you're probably stuck there with the burned in captions (and Boba Fett using the word "closure" doesn't work) and the actor in the Fett costume...that costume doesn't fit, again, beyond your control.

 

My only true concern here is the scenes with Boba Fett on Endor.  They work pretty well but all the really tight shots on Fett's helmet doesn't work for me at all.  Again, I know that you are shackled by the material that you're working with.  If you're trying to make something that could be seamlessly watched with the other five films these shots stand out because none of the movies have facial shots cropped this tight.

 

I hope that you don't mind my comments.  I am really impressed with your work so far and look forward to watching the workprint from start to finish sometime this weekend.