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Harmy said:

https://rapidshare.com/files/4030290992/training_comparison_1080p.mp4

I love the brightness.

I love the colours.

I love the details.

I love how the saber looks.

BUT ...

The original remote had a black outline : https://plus.google.com/photos/102542760950977079734/albums/5514974191245813441/5553601144067443010?banner=pwa  - do you plan to "restore" it ? If not, I FULLY understand why :-)

Harmy said:

Thanks guys :-)

Here's another one for you:

This is as far as I'm willing to go. I had to go back to the shot's project file and rerender anyway, because there was some funky stuff going on with 3PO's head when the target first passes over it, so I figured what the hell and added a bit of saturation to the sabre.

The still looks EXCELLENT ! When can we see it in motion ? :-)

Harmy said:

Yeah, actually I think I'll have to redo that shot once more, I have a very good reason to believe the sun shouldn't be so orange, the shot shouldn't be this bright and it should have more of a purple cast to it.

Some new reference pics ? :-)

Harmy said:

OK, so this is what I did with this scene. I've been at it for quite some time and am honestly sick of it, so I hope everyone is ok with it looking this way:

 

Well, it's not perfect, but it's very, VERY good !

First of all, I always thought that a special effect is done correctly ONLY if you don't realise you have just seen a special effect !

The original Yoda puppet used for Episode V and VI was an example of a correctly done "special effect" - even now, when I have seen literally hundreds of movies, most of them special effect-oriented, and I know how Yoda was created, when I look at the 2 movies, he looks REAL to me. He really looks like a little grey-green old alien warrior-philosopher. He simply looks REAL, and he delivers a great performance. BTW for many years I thought he wasn't a puppet, I thought he was simply a midget in a costume, that's how real he looked (and looks) to me!

However something very, very bad has happened in the prequels. The TPM puppet looks like - well, it looks like a puppet. It looks nothing real, it looks like a poorly done puppet. The magic from the original trilogy didn't happen.  So what did the ILM fools do ? They replaced a crappy looking puppet with a crappy looking CGI model. The puppet looks like a puppet, and this new digital Yoda looks like a cartoon character, I can't decide what is worse, but one thing is for sure - I hate Yoda in the prequels. They have done absolutely EVERYTHING wrong - the level of detail, the movement, the ears, the face ... everything looks good enough for a cartoon, or a video game, not for a movie

Jaitea said:

OHHHH this could go on forever!!

I used the image Harmy posted from the DVD and mucked about with it....dunno looks a bit warmer...maybe too warm

J

I love the last pic. Seriously

No, the movies have always been like this. Ask Lucas if you don't believe me

The terrible look of the lightsabres since 2004 is only a small part of a much bigger problem - the terrible colours of the movies, since they are obviously being "corrected" by color-blind people for every new release

Harmy said:

 

And as to looking just as bad as the DVD and BD, I think you need to take another look:

Hi, I hope you understand that it wasn't meant to be an "insult" or something but what I was trying to say is that when I've seen it I immediately had the same "No no no no no - this is wrong" feeling, just like I had when I was watching the 2004 DVD.

As I wrote, for the most part I really enjoyed what I've seen :-)

Zombie's page unfortunately doesn't have this exact frame, but other frames from this sequence have the correct "feeling" after applying his "trick"

http://savestarwars.com/goutcorrect-starwars.html

Cobra Kai - that is EXACTLY the scene I was talking about. It looks really as terrible as the official DVD and BluRay :-(

Come on, somebody really likes the sound of a masturbating stoned teenager ? All previous versions sounded like weird alien animals

That's what I wanted to post :-)

Freeky Nose should lose his arm, Walrus Guy was supposed to be chopped into several pieces

Well I've seen a couple of scenes and for the most part I LOVE what I've seen :-) The only thing I don't like are the colours of the desert sequence

Rest in piece, Mr. Anderson

I hope it's not too late for asking a PM with the workprint link :-)

negative1 said:

SilverWook said:

A few "worst of 2011" nominations over at the HTF of interest. ;)

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/f/57591/best-and-worst-of-2011-nominations-and-voting

why would star wars be one of the worst boxed

sets for 'EXTRAS'? i think the extras alone made

it worth getting. (not talking about the other content).

these guys are just doing a knee-jerk reaction. lame.

later

-1

The extras are the ONLY reason I bought the set :-)

Luke's lightsabre is blue - that must be an error,or ? Everybody knows that his lightsaber should be green or white, or white with bright cyan border, or bright white with huge cyan border or ... :-)

The crawl looks nice :-)

They look OK. Did you also change the script according to your newest settings ? I'd like to do a small test encode to see it in motion

timdiggerm said:

Apparently I am bad at reading today and shouldn't've said what I said. Thus...

December 24 - Christmas Eve

December 25 - Christmas

December 26 - Boxing Day

Really ? Interesting, thanks. We use here the equivalent of the word "Christmas" for all 3 days

Harmy said:

No, no joke. I even used the same process as before, it's not a recreation using a font, it is comprised of the original elements.

It's just 720p of course, so when blown up to 4K, like Mike's picture is, it looks horrible but that's the way it looks at 720p. Now, the jaggies as it progresses further back are unfortunately still there, even when I tried rendering it at 4K, so I don't know what to do about those. But then, they're there a little even on the official SE crawl...

@Moth4: Um, which day is Boxing day again? ;-) We don't have any such thing. We also get our presents on xmas eve after dinner :-P

Boxing day should be the day after Christmas Eve if I remember my English lessons :-)

I'm REALLY looking forward to see your "gift"

The last pics have a great "feel" to them

Well is there any chance you could re-capture the Japanese SWE1 LD with much higher bitrate ? And maybe cutting the black bars from the top and the bottom so that more bitrate can be used for the video ?

Chewtobacca said:

 I asked you to explain how Paramount could feasibly release the series on Blu-ray without redoing the effects.  Of course, Paramount could release the DVDs again, but most fans who want those already have them.  In order for Paramount to make it commercially feasible to sell the Blu-rays to fans, many of whom already have the DVDs, it is necessary to offer people an HD experience that would persuade them to upgrade.  The other way is to upscale all the effects, which would look worse than the DVDs.  I wish TNG were in the same situation as TOS and that only the space scenes were done on video, but it's not the case, and I really don't see how including the original effects is feasible.

Actually I would prefer if they make a HD transfer of all the scenes without special effects, and combine them with upscaled versions of the scenes which DO feature effects. It could be interesting

TV's Frink said:

I haven't read any of this, but I'd just like to say...

FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!!

Why can't we be friends,
why can't we be friends,

why can't we be friend,

why can't we be frieeeeeends ...