Official rules for ST fan films : http://www.startrek.com/fan-films
Short summary - they claim fair use doesn’t exist. The fan production can consist of max 2 <15 min long videos. No involvement of people previously involved with any Trek productions. You can not ask for more than 50000 in your crowdfunding. No youtube ads.
CBS, please fuck off.
Anton Yelcin is dead 😦
Oh shit 😦 Poor guy 😦 He was a damn fine actor and so young…
This is quite funny and informative at the same time : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq1DE_W86XE
Well I know it will sound weird but the JFK assassination stuff and the live 911 coverage sound fascinating. For example the 911 stuff - both sides show only clips which support their claims
pittrek, I just looked at a tape that has been sitting RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY NOSE, and on it is the “Star Trek: 30 Years & Beyond” 1996 LIVE UPN special, running time of 1:31:00. I put it in and it looks EXTREMELY good. I assume that this is the one you’re looking for? Ted Danson hosted and the v/o said it was “Live from Hollywood”.
Yes, that would be it. The version I found somewhere on the internet has great picture quality, but also it has Japanese subtitles as part of the picture.
Also on this tape I have listed the following:
“Hollywood’s Aliens & Monsters” (TMP/TWOK/Abyss/ID4, etc.), 1997, 17 min
“S.T.Experience” Beginning 1997 (vc) ad
“ST: Borg” (vc) ad
Persis Khambatta death from Fox News Channel
"Ent. Weekly: “ST Encore”, 32 years, pre-STIX
Forrest DeKelley death: from WGN/ABC/WFLD/MSNBC
“Time and Again”: ST Con from 2/25/1976 on NBC and “Today”, 9/16/1976
“Today”: ST Smithsonian Exhibit, 2/27/1992 and “Time and Again”: Tom Snyder w/ Roddenberry, 3/21/1979
That all sounds fascinating to quote everybody’s favourite Vulcan.
I can’t remember exact details as to what is included in these programs, but this should give you an idea of the kind of things I recorded. As for ST, often I would have several VCR’s going on at the same time to capture interviews, etc. from each network.
Don’t get old… 😉
Thanks so much for the quick and informative reply. I think it’s great that there are dedicated people trying to preserve these “lost” pieces of history. I think it’s shameful that creators/companies often don’t make an effort to re-release things that were put out originally. I know it’s often due to “copyrights”, “Contractual Obligations” and of course, money, but if it was out once, it ought to be released again. I especially hate it when, for instance, extras are not carried over to an updated release. So, good luck on all your efforts. Don’t even get me started on Lucas and his endless tinkering of “Star Wars”. I want exactly what I saw in 1977, and in better quality than Laserdisc…
A nice example is Star Wars - the bonus material from the SE VHS/LD was not released on the 2004 DVDs and the bonus material from both the 2004 DVDs and the prequel DVDs were not added to the 2011 BD set. So if you want to have your bonus collection as complete as possible and not break any laws you have to keep all of the Star Wars releases. Not to mention that every single home video release had a different version of the movies themselves.
Or Star Trek. I wanted to sell my TOS DVDs on eBay as soon as I bought the 2009 Bluray set but then I realized that a couple of bonus features from the DVDs were not brought over to the Blurays, and when I’ve done videos for my youtube channel some fans have informed me that in some cases the DVD version is different from the Blu-ray “original” version. In other words, the original versions are not so original 😃 Or the TNG B;u-ray sets - they could include the original versions of the episodes, in worst case they could do new high bitrate SD transfers of the tapes.
Have you ever compared what Spielberg said about “CE3K” in the Laserdisc releases for the original cut and the longer version? He’s completely dishonest about why he made the longer version, it’s sad. I can’t remember if his remarks carried over to any of the DVD or BD releases.
What was the “original” statement? I’ve seen an interview (don’t know where, maybe on my SE VHS?) where he claimed that basically the studio forced him to the the SE and he was against it.
When the original “Planet of the Apes” films and television series were originally broadcast on network television in the early 1970’s, way before the advent of home video, I would record the dialogue off the TV onto cassettes and listen to them. That was the only way to enjoy your favourite things until their next transmission.
That’s actually a good idea, fans of classic Doctor Who would agree 😃
I can also relate to your efforts in preserving things as they were originally released. Decades ago I taped the POTA TV series when they became a series of 2 hour movies and then added that missing footage to the run when they appeared in their original form on cable, though heavily edited! Remember, I did this all without the aid of any computer programs, just linking VCR’s together.
I’m very glad that I’ve saved all the material I taped over the last 33 years, as I figured it may be lost forever if someone didn’t save it. Being a huge ST fan, I tried to tape everything I could when each movie came out, often running several VCR’s at once.
I totally understand the “nothing to see her…move along…nudge, nudge, wink, wink…” aspect as well!
I forgot to add “Logan’s Run” to my faves and collection list. I wish the later formats of many films released on Laserdisc incorporated all the printed material extras that were on them. Some of the supplements were extensive. I also have three or four VHS tapes of extras from the 1st “X-Files” movie and 2 tapes from the awful “Planet of the Apes” (2001) movie. Anyone interested in those?
As I recall, the extras on the “Star Wars vs Star Trek” were NOT on the STV DVD extras disc. I haven’t seen it in years, but remember being blown away when they showed up. I even made a note of it somewhere. I’d have to see it again to be sure.
As I’ve indicated, I’ve done all of my recording over the years on the (then) popular home video formats. I am not computer savvy at all and haven’t transferred anything to a hard drive before. My question is, would it be best for you to have the original source when you’re doing your preserving? I assume it would, as the best that I can do is copy them to DVD’s at XP speed for the very best DVD quality. Does putting them directly onto a computer skip a whole generation of loss in quality? If so, we’ll have to figure out a way for you guys to get my originals.
Well the optimal thing would be to have access to the original source material, but as I wrote, I live on a different continent 😃 And Silverwook lives in a different state, so a direct VHS > DVD recording is slightly worse, but still great.
Living in the Chicago area I often find the strangest things. Just today I came across a still sealed package of Beta L-750 tapes at a thrift store! Crazy. Also, the controversy surrounding Lucas’ museum is heating up again here. It just may end up in our city after all. Another hideous piece of crap to sit right next to the abomination that has become Soldier Field, home of the Chicago Bears, right on our beautiful lakefront. Oh well…
Oh, and you’re not being greedy, I still get excited when I see/hear of things that I love that I’ve never seen before! I’ll start documenting what I have it greater detail.
I may be wrong, but I think I also have something taped off-air that featured Mark Hamill hosting a Star Wars or science fiction themed program. Any ideas on what that could have been? I have it somewhere…
I know that Mark Hamill hosted the first ever TV broadcast of Star Wars, which was followed by a short documentary narrated by him (made by scenes from “The Making of Star Wars” if I remember correctly). Could it be it?
Yes, I think I do have that Voyager program that’s from Youtube, thanks. It came on right before the premiere in 1995 and mine should be in FAR better quality. I’ll let you know.
Great.
I also still have my off air recordings of “Harsh Realm”, “Starman” and other things that have original bumpers, etc. that didn’t make it onto official releases. I was very into “Starman”, and was involved with trying to get in renewed, along with the “Spotlight Starman” group. I have many of their original newsletters, etc. I even won an autographed (Robert Hays) cookbook they produced!
Thanks again.
I have unfortunately deleted the rar files immediately, I don’t have so much free disk space 😦
Jedit : Wait a moment, I have now realized I am helping seeding the myspleen torrent. I have a bad feeling that uTorrent has rewritten some of the bytes of the ISO to “comply” with the ISO shared on myspleen 😦
So, am i crazy?
the file i downloaded from a.b.starwars hashes differently from what is on the spleen. the torrent checked to like 99% from what i had. anyone else have the same? i even re-extracted from the rar’s and got the same difference:
Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso from a.b.starwars
sha1sum: ccdc72ab1f67bbbdfa06e80f8bc5c14d97fbb996
sha256sum: 916de560acd1a9f40f564909aea9c37a78ef8da0fe44a0260157ae62fd243263Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso from myspleen
sha1sum: 9b5df42aa7a7d346711dd969f8650f18b6d5e99f
sha256sum: 183e36fe4591e7f947b9d63d07f1bb920f1039a35e9853355d835e3a33df132fI have:
Name: Star_Wars_SSE_TN1_v1_6.iso
Date: 6/12/2016
Size: 37 GB (1,654,128,640 bytes)
SHA-1: ccdc72ab1f67bbbdfa06e80f8bc5c14d97fbb996
MD5: f9556d51e8cd6647ac076d7b8284f896
CRC32: 68e66e85
Now this is fascinating…
I downloaded the ISO from usenet and my SHA checksum is 9b5df42aa7a7d346711dd969f8650f18b6d5e99f
So do I have the “corrupt” version? That would explain why Kodi refuses to play it. But shouldn’t the usenet version be the “correct” version?
I prefer the original ESB emperor too
A few points: I do have the ST 25th on both VHS and LD. I no longer have any of the other LD’s previously mentioned. Forgive the ignorance, but since I found this site from a search, I have no idea what you all mean by “preserving” things. Are you a loosely affiliated group of people that work together trying to save video onto digital formats? Are there groups dedicated to particular projects?
OK “preserving” for the purpose of this site means “transferring films / TV shows / TV specials / documentaries which exist only in archaic (usually analogue) media to modern digital formats so that anybody has still access to them years later”.
Some people work alone, some people work in groups.
The final “products”, usually DVDs, mkv files or these days even AVCHDs and BluRays are then “shared” inside the “community” in a way which is prohibited to talk about publicly.
Also, are you looking for video only, or printed media as well? I have tens of thousands of pages of printed media as well as recorded media and am happy to share whatever what I can.
Depends on the project. Printed media are usually considered great bonus features to DVDs / Bluray discs.
I believe I have a 30th Anniversary ST special that was on TV, is that you are speaking of? I know I don’t have one on LD. I may have “The Star Trek Saga: From One Generation to the Next” recorded off-air, but I am not positive.
The only things I remember from the 30th anniversary was a Voyager/Frasier crossover and a Kenny G musical number. Plus people talking in an auditorium why Star Trek is/was important for them.
I have “Journey’s End” on VHS only. I also have, “William Shatner’s ST Memories”, “Inside Star Trek: The Real Story”, “DS9: BTS” and “William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy: The 25 Year Mission”, all on VHS.
The “Star Wars vs Star Trek: The Rivalry Continues” DVD had some previously unseen outtakes from “Star Trek V” and perhaps other material on it as well. It was a very strange release. I have it but haven’t seen it in quite some time.
Hm, neer heard about those outtakes. Are they different from those released on the Star Trek 5 DVD?
I don’t have any of the MTV ST Logs.
I’m almost positive that I have an excellent Beta recording of “Star Trek Voyager: Inside the New Adventures” that aired on UPN.
Is it this one ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO3TjPqsIEQ
That would maybe also be worth preserving.
Do you have copies of the “Star Wars Trilogy: The Definitive Collection” on Laserdisc? If memory serves, you would have to have several copies of the video content for each of the several audio commentaries, if some of them overlapped, which I believe they did. I have my box and would have to check the listings to be sure.
Some people have it here, there are even a few DVD preservations of this set.
Also, has anyone put the many deleted scenes from “A New Hope” that were on the “Making Magic” cd-rom? I can’t get my copy to work on Windows 10, but I think they were excellent.
There is a DVD preservation of those scenes and it looks pretty good as far as I can remember. Also most of them are on the 2011 Blu-ray set.
If you could let me know what, if any, of the titles I mentioned above are of interest to any group(s), I will make a note of it. Thanks.
Speeking for myself, I’d be interested in practically anything you mentioned in your post and the Sc-fi channels SEs 😃 I know, I’m greedy.
Journey’s end came out on both VHS and DVD
I’m obviously not a comic book geek 😃
Sorry, Miles.
Fixing all the SFX problems of the originals
So you have the 25th anniversary of Star Trek documentary, that’s great. Do you by any chance have the 30th anniversary show? The best version I could find had burnt-in Japanese subtitles in the picture.
Also - The Star Trek Saga : From One Generation To The Next - Silverwook preserved his off-air broadcast, which is unfortunately incomplete and has weird colours (similar to the first season TNG telecine). I know it was released also on laserdisc.
The Star Trek Logs - An MTV Big Picture Special Edition - a few recordings are on youtube, usually in crappy quality. Hosted by Marina Sirtis as Troi, filmed on the Enterprise D bridge and promoting Star Trek 6.
EPKs - I have the electronic press kits to TNG launch, TNG finale and DS9 launch.
Movie magic - was the documentary series released? I remember seeing them on TV 2 decades ago and I know some episodes are on youtube. There were at least 2 episodes for Star Trek DS9
Launch of Star Trek Voyager - this was a Sci-fi channel special, which brings me back to the Sci-fi channel special editions 😃
If you could do a preservation of any of that, it would be great for the 50th anniversary 😃
Who the f*** is Mike Morales? For all people who are not real comic book geeks Spiderman is and always will be Peter Parker, it would be very stupid to do somebody else
Thanks. Do you plan to release also the “prediction” tool too ?
Thanks. Yes, I have already transferred the ST II Beta to a DVD using a Toshiba DVD recorder, in SP speed. The DVD is where the photos I posted came from. I also use several other Panasonic DVD recorders, some that can record on DVD-DL discs. I don’t have any type of computer video capture device and due to recent problems with my crap Dell laptop I can’t use any video editing programs. I had to buy an external DVD drive to complete a recent transfer of 23 Beta/VHS/Hi-8/Digital8 tapes and making around 70 copies of the finished DVD’s for a school district project. I don’t think I could have the SF ST:SE videos done before the end of summer, though. And unless I can get my computer fixed, they would all have to be directly recorded from VHS to DVD’s. Would either you or SilverWook happen to live anywhere in the Illinois/Indiana region? Thanks again. I’m glad that these tapes that have sitting around for nearly twenty years (carefully stored!) can be of use to fellow fans.
Even straight VHS > DVD recorder recording would be fantastic to have 😃 I unfortunately live on a different continent then you guys 😃
So while I’m trying to get it from usenet (you convinced me guys for trying the 1 week trial, but it claims it will download next 12 days) I noticed it’s on myspleen (thanks).
But what the hell is wrong with negative1?
negative1 (Power User) at 2016-06-13 16:51:23 GMT - [Quote]
To those commenting that don’t know about it properly. There are other members, including me, Rogue1, >> that have been involved.If more comments are made without knowing the proper details,
this torrent will be requested to be taken down.If you want to get this release, get it now, because it won’t be available later on.
Negative1 has no involvement with these posts, or these phases of the project.
Rogue1
Last edited by negative1 at 2016-06-13 16:58:46 GMT
If -1 or rogue 1 or whatever his name is in this hour is reading this - please GROW UP.
Thanks again to everybody involved (yes, of course even negative1/team negative 1 / rogue1 / whatever).
Well, the DVD and BD editions of TPM made the most boring sequence ever put in a Star Wars film - the podrace - even LONGER.
As a person living in a country where basically nobody including the ISPs know what usenet is I’d love to join the request for uploading it to ANY download server (uloz.to / mega / whatever), thanks for anybody who would do it. And thanks for Rob for finishing this … puppy
Those Star Trek II pictures looks really great. Are you willing to digitize it AND the Sci-fi channel special editions?
Hi. I just became aware of this thread and wondered if anyone found good quality copies of the entire run of the airings. I found my videotapes and may have all of them, which were recorded on a VHS Hi-Fi VCR, with a flying erase head in SP mode and look good. I would have to catalogue them more fully to confirm that all the segments are intact. Are there still people interested in seeing them? I also have copies of ABC’s version of The Wrath of Khan in terrific quality taped off-air onto SuperBeta and the original theatrical version of The Undiscovered Country on VHS. Thanks.
Oh God YES, I would sTILL love to see good quality copies of the Sci-Fi channel versions, if nothing else then at least the interview bits. Could you post some screenshots from your ABC version of Khan? “Some” version has appeared online, but still, if your version looks better there is still way for improvements. Was the theatrical version of TUC released on VHS? I thought only the first “director’s cut” god a LD/VHS release.
Thanks, I suddenly feel “slightly slower” 😃
