Most surreal - indeed quite creepy. Of course, they all came to life when when us kids went to sleep anyway 😉
Some dedicated stop-motion fan editors out there are likely gonna love this 👍 (as are shrinks and therapists!)
https://twitter.com/ActionMovieKid/status/1369983815670636545 - a 23 second gif, and beautifully done 👍
^ https://designhousestudio.co.uk/product/star-wars-poster-1977
Quite decent for an ‘unofficial’ / spoof / early fan-made poster (the poster - not the asking price 😉).
‘Strange New Worlds | Start Of Production | Paramount+’:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ON8cDbmgw - a 1 minute video from the Paramount+ youtube channel.
More info here: www.startrek.com/news/breaking-star-trek-strange-new-worlds-begins-production
When did he bash fan preservations?
1h 48m 40s into that 2 hour video you plugged on here.
If anyone hasn’t yet seen the video - I wouldn’t bother. Yes, there are a couple of mistakes in the RJ video - though it didn’t need a 2 hour video remedy that; and nor in the abrupt, mocking and somewhat patronising manner delivered in Nerdonymous’ video. SparkySywer’s post here covers the Nerdonymous video in some detail to save you wasting two hours actually watching it.
That’s without the somewhat laughable claim made in the 2 hour video by Nerdonymous that the RJ video is somehow “simply an attempt to discredit George Lucas”.
So in summing it up… even after
watchingsitting through that 2-hour video linked by G&G-Fan, the RocketJump video is not “literally a lie”, or anything like it.It is though. They lied about George editing the rough cut (he didn’t; and before you say that they never said George edited the rough cut, it’s heavily implied and it’s what I and everybody else thought upon initially seeing the video),
It may be what you thought - though please don’t claim that to speak as to what “everyone else thought upon initally the seeing the video” - this obviously is not the case here.
The RJ video simply didn’t state what you claim to be a lie - as you admit yourself.
Asserting someone is claiming something that they are not… is indeed a strawman argument. (I think I read that something akin to that somewhere recently…)
So, no… the RJ video did not lie.
they lied about the reactions of the people who watched the rough cut,
Spielberg? He’s on record as saying Brian De Palma “went off on George” after watching the rough cut with Lucas’ other film-making friends.
De Palma? He is also on record as saying the crawl didn’t make any sense at all - ‘gibberish’ (?), kidding Lucas about the Force etc, what’s going on around here, that he didn’t understand the story, who are these people, who’s the hairy guy, etc’. “But you have to understand, we used to look at each other’s movies in order to be helpful. We might say some things that weren’t nice.” - De Palma also admits his harsh criticisms didn’t always go down well for some, yet Lucas never took offense to his remarks about the movie.
Isn’t the audio footage used by RJ from the HBO doc on Spielberg? Spielberg actually doing his De Palma impression? (it has been a long time since I watched it; I think it is - though could be wrong).
So, no… the RJ video did not lie.
they lied about the editors being the ones to decide to remove the early Luke scenes,
They simply quoted Richard Chew, from ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ book by Rinzler, as saying:-
“In the first five minutes we were hitting everybody with more information they could handle. There were too many storylines to keep straight: the robots and the princess, Vader, Luke. So we simplified it by taking Luke and Biggs out”.
This is quite strange… as apparently ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ book by Rinzler is a trusted and “peer-written published material” for you… yet now it is a lie? Huh, interesting that.
So, no… the RJ video did not lie.
they lied about the reasons the Death Star scenes were moved later
The conference scene on board the Death Star? What exactly is your reason for claiming that RocketJump ‘lied’ to be?
Seems it simply made more sense to the story to re-arrange those scenes, yes?
and straight up lied that Marcia Lucas came up with the idea that the Death Star was going to destroy the Rebel base.
Edit: Perhaps the misconstrued what Marcia Lucas said when she talks about introducing the ‘time clock’ to the Death Star Trench Run Attack to give it more tension (as demonstrated here in this video of Marcia talking about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxfmq0nCEs - at 1h, 07m 47s into the video)
It’d be interesting to hear what RJ’s source or basis for was for their claim - or if RJ misinterpreted it? Have they commented on it as yet (I imagine others have asked them about it)?
And if you want to claim that The Making of Star Wars and all of the others books written about the production of Star Wars he referenced (which were all written by people OTHER then George Lucas) are lies and there’s massive conspiracy going on, then fine, but I’m going to trust actual peer-written published material over “Dude(s) trust me”. I guess all of those scripts are lies too. But the 12 minute video that barely bothers to pull quotes, that’s the stuff!
‘peer-written published material’ - where is this material? Don’t say the ‘The Making of Star Wars’ by Rinzler; you’ve just accused Chew’s comments from that very book as being a lie told by RocketJump.
I’ve not made a claim about ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ prior to this post in the thread - nor any other books about the subject of the RJ or Nerdanonymous videos. If you’re going to plainly just make things up to try to pin false claims on others… then you should probably think again.
Hokey hyperbole, exaggeration, and false claims are no match for good blaster facts at your side.
As stated previously…
Some of the RJ video you may disagree with, some of it may indeed be incorrect (or there are other sources / recollections by people used in that could be seen as conflicting with each other), or some of it ‘from a certain point of view’… YMMV.
It still doesn’t make the RocketJump video “literally a lie”.
Yeah , I thank George too , I still don’t see Rocketjump bashing him anywhere in his video though .
You’re correct mate - though that hasn’t stopped a number of pro George fans saying it has - or being offended by it to the point of being vitriolic.
He, and some of the pro George Lucas fans really shouldn’t be triggered by such as a video as RJ’s - especially where in the blurb, and the video itself, clearly states it is ‘‘A video essay exploring how Star Wars’ editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became’ and is about the power of film editing in general.
(maybe he can’t get past the somewhat clickbaity title of RJ’s video)
Yet Nerdonymous for whatever reason does indeed that claim in his 2 hour video that the RJ video is “simply an attempt to discredit George Lucas”.
Welcome to the OT•com, SwampGuylikesPlants 👍
After watching the 2 hour video I am still not sure how a video (in this context) can be “Literally a Lie”. Literally…
I remember watching that video awhile ago and actually thinking it was cool and informative and it’s used all over the place to try and prove the whole “George Lucas bad” campaign.
There is a ‘George Lucas bad’ campaign? If it is indeed used by others as some sort of ‘proof’ of something… that’s not really on the people who made the video, is it? The RJ video isn’t a gospel, or claims to be ‘the definitive video on the editing of Star Wars’ etc, or anything like. I’m still not sure how Nerdonymous views the RJ video as “simply an attempt to discredit George Lucas”.
Then I came across this video. This really well-researched and thought out video that actually has credible sources and shows them really well… and it basically proves that RocketJump’s video is a bunch of lying, bias nonsense with misdirection and misinformation across the board.
It is? How so (other than a couple of mistakes in the RJ video)? Please don’t point me to watch the Nerdonymous video - what are the lies, bias, nonsense, misdirection and misinformation you claim there to be in the RocketJump video.
So uh, yeah… Goerge Lucas didn’t suck and it wasn’t the editors that created Star Wars.
Sorry.
Did the RocketJump video state that ‘Lucas did suck’? And that it was ‘the editors that created Star Wars’? Huh… I’ll have to give the RocketJump video another watch. I did re-watch it, and no, they didn’t say anything of the sort.
They did indeed explain how ‘Star Wars editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became’.
Some of the RJ video you may disagree with, some of it may indeed be incorrect (or there are other sources / recollections by people used in that could be seen as conflicting with each other), or some of it ‘from a certain point of view’… YMMV.
Yet there really isn’t a need for the type of hyperbole or attitude used in in your OP - which, to be honest, reads like a an advert for a 2 hour video designed to deconstruct the RJ video / profit on the back of the popularity of the RJ video… that some ‘pro-George Lucas’ fans obviously and vocally don’t much like - which is ironic as the RocketJump video doesn’t actually criticise George Lucas (Special Editions / further tinkerings apart).
As it literally says in ‘summing up’ of the RocketJump video - “I think George’s ‘ace in the hole’ was that he surrounded himself with an incredible team of people to work with, and listening and collaborating with them to help refine his incredible vision.”
The 2 hour video guy could have easily made his own ‘How Star Wars was made in the Edit’ video as an alternative - whilst also pointing out differences or conflicts (or any mistakes) with the RJ video… instead he attempts to simply deconstruct it - in an abrupt, mocking and somewhat patronising manner - whilst taking much of the RJ video out of context or making strawman-type arguments.
So in summing it up… even after watching sitting through that 2-hour video linked by G&G-Fan, the RocketJump video is not “literally a lie”, or anything like it.
If anyone is looking for a quality read on how Star Wars was written, evolved, and was made… then ‘The Secret History Of Star Wars’ book by Michael Kaminski, is well worth it.
Or watch the three Original Trilogy ‘Filmumentaries’ by Jamie Benning.
Jeez why are all the pro-Lucas and pro-prequel videos like 2 hours long or more
Ad revenue for some, maybe? Catering to ‘the algorithm’?
Though Sparky is probably onto something too.
^
6’5.
For information…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFMyMxMYDNk - an 18 minute long video, from the erm… Rocketjump youtube channel.
The blurb for the video: ‘‘A video essay exploring how Star Wars’ editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became.’
I haven’t seen the 2 hour long video linked in the OP by G&G-Fan - though I am not sure how a video (in this context) can be “Literally a Lie”. Literally… 😉
‘Lou Ottens, Inventor Of The Cassette Tape, Has Died’:-
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/10/975598869/lou-ottens-inventor-of-the-cassette-tape-has-died
We’re coming up on the 45th anniversary of Star Wars. Any plans?
Huh, I had this year down as the as being the next ‘big’ anniversary - Lucasfilm’s 50th.
Followed by celebrating ‘40 years of’… Return Of The Jedi in 2023 - similar to what the official site have previously done for Star Wars and Empire.
And then probably 2027 for the 50th anniversary of Star Wars?
Hadn’t really thought of the 45th anniversary…
What about yourselves? Any plans?
Sweet covers LTD - nicely done 👍
(huh, the strippers emoticon isn’t working - dammit!)
and also kudos to what Bossk said in the OP of this thread.
‘STAR WARS EP 4: Laser Moon Awakens’ - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu9dUG3_KNA (40 mins)
‘STAR WARS EP 5: Attack of the Phantom Past’ - www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ynmC1-YAEc (51 mins)
‘STAR WARS EP 6: The Last Laser Master’ - www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOmyuweolqY (35 mins)
‘Star Wars Reimagined: SC 3, 5, 16, 29, 38’ - www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQtGCtnF2Y
‘Star Wars Reimagined: The Empire Strikes Back’ - www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwsMYJdmutQ
‘Star Wars Reimagined: Return of the Jedi’ - www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2zRFPeEDS0
😃
So so sorry for your niece’s and family’s loss, marioxb.
Cracking idea and love the finish 👍
(cool Falcon too!)
Seems there area few differing sets of figures for the tables available too - going on the online tutorial videos out there…
How to Play Galaxy’s Edge Dejarik - 8 minute video at the The Jodo Cast youtube video.
Let’s Play Dejarik Holochess - 10 minute video at the No Name Publishing youtube video.
No worries on having a link to a trailer on here. Plus, I enjoyed it - fair play and kudos to you for focusing on Padme and Anakin’s relationship in it considering that is seen by many as weak point of the theatrical AOTC film - yet nicely done.
Good luck with the edit.
^ Exploring ‘The Beauty Of’ cinema, tv shows and video games.
Some breathtaking compilations of screen releases - featuring a lot of sci-fi, dystopian, and fantasy content, as well as highlighting some visually striking direction and cinematography.
‘The Beauty Of Rogue One’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnpCiFq88Ng
‘The Beauty Of Westworld’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7r2SsGsXTE
‘The Beauty Of Stanley Kubrick’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHzmODHTURM
‘The Beauty Of The Shining’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg-PxYfHQos
‘The Beauty Of Children Of Men’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmUUll85lk8
‘The Beauty Of Munich’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpXdFst0UrE
‘The Beauty Of Alien saga’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6PcEoy_4Sc
and seemingly hundreds more…
^^ Stunning and enticing pictures, RicOlie_2.
a few intriguing photos found online…
^ likely to be a variant of the YT-1300 Corellian light freighter Tupolev Tu-104…
(some more info here - https://siberiantimes.com/other/others/features/f020-academic-works-on-restoring-iconic-1950s-soviet-jetlinerin-her-spare-time - though I don’t think it is from the same photo as above)
^ https://www.davidderueda.com/portfolio/lost-in-time
(some more info here -https://sometimes-interesting.com/story-of-abandoned-soviet-space-shuttles-in-the-kazakh-steppe)
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‘The above image is the Hubble space telescope’s eXtreme Deep Field observation, published in 2012. The image is the result of combining 1,000 exposures of a teeny tiny patch of sky taken over 10 years. The image contains 5,500 galaxies found in a portion of the night sky that’s smaller than one-tenth the width of the moon. As the Hubble website explains, this is just “a 30 millionth of the whole sky.” So in every thumbnail-sized area of the sky, there’s untold numbers of galaxies, stars, planets, and possibly life. It’s mind boggling, and awesome.’
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Juno captured Jupiter’s gorgeous clouds in this image on May 29, 2019.
On July 4, 2016, NASA’s Juno spacecraft arrived at Jupiter, traveling at a blistering 130,000 miles per hour.
^ I love that middle pic 😃
