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FloDb said:

Hi all, hi Sinbad,

Any chance you are still reading this thread and can send me links to your work on BTTF? Your edit is how I’d like to introduce the franchise to my wife, who never watched the movies!

 
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Good luck with it. 👍
 

Superb work - and nice finds, Mackey256. 👍

Loving the new thread, too.
 

Dagenspear said:

JF_Sanderson said:

Darth being a real guy + Anakin stealing his identity would be a great twist. That or the other scenario (Anakin dead but Vader is the real dad with Mrs Skywalker) would make revelations in Rotj much more exciting and the prequels a LOT more surprising. And Old Ben wouldn’t have to be a damn lying liar.

That, to me, seems twisty for the sake of it. What does it change or really add if Anakin stole Vader’s identity story or character wise or if Vader is a different guy who is Luke’s dad?

Tosche Station said:

Gary Kurtz: “When we made Star Wars, Vader and Anakin were two separate people. The idea that Vader was Luke’s father didn’t exist. I remember Lucas talked about Anakin having killed Vader and then taking his identity, but that was dropped early on. The whole twist in Empire was new and unexpected.”

Star Wars Insider #138, 2011

Tosche Station said:

Basically, the Gary Kurtz quote shows that I was wrong. Lucas did NOT merge Vader and Anakin until Empire (ESB), and it was with Empire, not Jedi (ROTJ) that he did this. The earlier ‘father Vader twist’ idea that Lucas had during the writing stage/pre-production of SW (ANH) was dropped before the final version of the script was done.

Or it’s an alternative take from Kurtz.

However, I did find, though I don’t know too much about it, this:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/50/21/21/5021214ea8807dd151264234afa0276f.jpg

Seemingly an interview with David Prowse before the filming of TESB where Prowse seems to spoil the twist that Vader is Luke’s dad.

Nothing new, unfortunately… as discussed here (if you’d like to read more about it); a few people from around that post SW’77 time were guessing, spit-balling, and throwing out their theories for what could be next for ‘Star Wars II’…

• '78 interview with David Prowse [spoilers] - he reveals Vader is Luke’s father - a 2010 thread.
 

^ with a wider ‘David Prowse’ section in the ‘1️⃣ • Ⓒ Characters & Actors’ category of An Index for Original Trilogy Discussion 👍
 

Tosche Station said:

Basically, the Gary Kurtz quote shows that I was wrong. Lucas did NOT merge Vader and Anakin until Empire (ESB), and it was with Empire, not Jedi (ROTJ) that he did this. The earlier ‘father Vader twist’ idea that Lucas had during the writing stage/pre-production of SW (ANH) was dropped before the final version of the script was done.

Fair play to you, TS. Not many would admit that. 👍

Tosche Station said:

Gary Kurtz: “When we made Star Wars, Vader and Anakin were two separate people. The idea that Vader was Luke’s father didn’t exist. I remember Lucas talked about Anakin having killed Vader and then taking his identity, but that was dropped early on. The whole twist in Empire was new and unexpected.”

Star Wars Insider #138, 2011

 
Unfortunately the above quote found online by TS (via a ‘google search’) does NOT exist in ‘Star Wars Insider #138, 2011’.

Both TS and myself have had a thorough look through Issue #138 of SW Insider (which is actually the issue for January 2013 - and NOT 2011) - and there is no quote or mention of Gary Kurtz in that issue.

I’ve had a look through adjoining issues, the 2011 issues - also online in general - and cannot find such a quote from Gary Kurtz.

It does NOT look like the quote is actually from Gary Kurtz - or exists outside of what TS found in that google search.
 

If anyone does know of this quote - and where is originates from - please post it up in here. Thanks, as always. 👍

September Edit: as confirmed by Tosche Station - the above quote attributed to Gary Kurtz is indeed a fake.

Kurtz made no such statement - with people now trying to invent online quotes for Gary Kurtz to try and re-write film history.
 

For anyone interested in when Vader was retconned to become Luke’s father… these may be of interest for further info:-

(from multiple sources - mainly consistent and confirmed - including from Lucasfilm high-ups, Marcia Lucas, & JW Rinzler etc)
 

• Category #5 of George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator & Time Travelling Revisionist…

• Emre’s two ‘info & image’ posts on the subject here: link & link - citing JW Rinzler and earlier drafts of scripts.

• The 2019 ‘Star Wars Mythbusting’ twitter thread by Lucasfilm Creative Arts Manager Phil Szostak

• and the Marcia Lucas interview in ‘Icons Uncovered’ documentary where she talks about how and when George retconned Vader to be Luke’s father - whilst writing the 2nd draft of Empire Strikes Back (GL, Marcia, Huyk & Katz were all having dinner).
 

I can only echo what Greg Z said above - and welcome back, mate. 👍
 

https://originaltrilogy.com/user/fanO-U-Tpreserver4K77/id/100124 - spam / troll / asking for money

 
www.televisionacademy.com/shows/andor

• Outstanding Drama Series
• Outstanding Writing (Dan Gilroy; 2x09- “Welcome to the Rebellion”)
• Outstanding Directing (Janus Metz; 2x08 - “Who Are You?”)
• Outstanding Cinematography (Christophe Nuyens)
• Outstanding Picture Editing (Yan Miles; 2x08 - “Who Are You?”)
• Outstanding Visual Effects (M. Leo, TJ Falls, L. Murphy, N. Scanlan, S. Pritchard, J. Kasparian, S. Row, P. D’Arco, and J-C Soret)
• Outstanding Production Design (Luke Hull, Toby Britton, Rebecca Alleway)
• Outstanding Musical Composition (Brandon Roberts)
• Outstanding Original Music & Lyrics (Nicholas Britell and Tony Gilroy; 2x08 - “We Are The Ghor”)
• Outstanding Sound Mixing (David Acord, Geoff Foster, Danny Hambrook, and Richard Duarte)
• Outstanding Sound Editing (D. Acord, M. Pfeiffer, J. Spencer, J. Gold, A. Nevarez, J. Finklea, R. Brown, S England)
• Outstanding Fantasy/Sci-Fi Costumes (Michael Wilkinson, Kate O’Farrell, Richard Davies, Paula Fajardo)
• Outstanding Character Voice-Over Performance (Alan Tudyk)
• Outstanding Guest Actor In A Drama Series (Forest Whitaker)

 
For me, Andor season 2 once again had some of the best acting performances in television this year (and in recent times) - yet the cast got a total of ONE Emmy nomination (for ‘Guest Actor’ - Forest Whittaker; congratulations to him). No nominations for Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor, or Best Supporting Actress.
 

“These are epic, long-term character studies that they’ve done over 24 episodes. I think the ultimate victory is that these performances will be celebrated and discussed for years to come.” - Tony Gilroy On Emmy Snubs For Diego Luna & Genevieve O’Reilly, at Deadline.

 
Tony Gilroy on The Emmys - how they work - Andor - and more, at The Wrap.

Other show’s nomination totals…

Severance - 27
The Penguin - 24
The Studio - 23
The White Lotus - 23
The Last Of Us - 16
Andor - 14
Hacks - 14
Adolescence - 13
The Bear - 13
The Pitt - 13
SNL50 - 12
Monsters: The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story - 11
Black Mirror - 10
 

ew.com/2025-emmys-nominations-full-list-11768565 : mashable.com/article/emmy-nominations-2025-full-list
hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/emmys-nominations-2025-nominees-list-1236314909 : televisionacademy.com
 

Winners will be announced at the 77th Emmy Awards ceremony, on 14th September, in Los Angeles.
 

‘Extreme weather is the UK’s new normal, says Met Office’

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74w1gyd7mko
 

 
'The UK is breaking heat and rainfall records increasingly frequently as its climate continues to warm, the Met Office has warned.

The country’s changing weather patterns mean the UK now experiences a “notably different” climate to what it was just a few decades ago, its State of the UK Climate report says.

We now have many more very hot days and many fewer extremely cold nights, according to this latest assessment.

It shows just how much global warming caused by the vast emissions of greenhouse gases our civilisation creates is reshaping the country’s climate.

Climate change is bringing more severe weather events like storms and flooding - and inevitably the country’s changing climate is having an impact on the natural world, with some species suffering.

The report focuses on 2024, when the UK experienced its second warmest February, warmest May, warmest spring, fifth warmest December, and fifth warmest winter since records began in 1884.

The Met Office highlights that some of these records have already been surpassed in 2025 - more evidence of this trend towards more extreme weather.

This summer many parts of the country are in the throes of their third heatwave with very warm weather reaching into Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland as well as southern England.

The first hosepipe ban of the year was imposed in Yorkshire last week following England’s warmest June on record, which came after the country’s driest and sunniest spring for 132 years.

Yorkshire and the north west of England were declared in official drought by the Environment Agency in June. At least one region is expected to be added to the list when the UK’s National Drought Group meets on Tuesday.

Mike Kendon, a Met Office climate scientist and lead author of the State of the UK Climate report, said: "Every year that goes by is another upward step on the warming trajectory our climate is on.

“Observations show that our climate in the UK is now notably different to what it was just a few decades ago.”’

more categories and info in the linked article here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74w1gyd7mko

‘Wetter as well as hotter weather’
‘Flood risk growing’
‘Nature is changing with the climate’

Dagenspear said:

oojason said:

Yeah, I think Mocata was being somewhat sardonic or flippant - given TFN’s history of treating Original Trilogy fans… poorly:-

2️⃣ Ⓓ • Other websites / communities supposed issues with OT•com, the Original Trilogy, or the unaltered theatrical cuts

 
Of course TFN would seemingly have that majority view… as the likes of Kasdan, Huyck, Katz and others who contributed to the OT are often overlooked or glossed over by many on there - despite being stronger creative writers than those of the ST… and also than George and Hales for the PT. Yet it is baffling that many forget, or neglect to mention, the above contributors.

Though fair play to George when it comes to his writing - he does admit: “I bleed on the page, and it’s just awful…”

What’s overlooking or glossing over? Not caring enough to mention them? I feel like it’s kinda par for the course that when speaking on something the most famous names get brought up more than anyone else. How many speak on Chris Terrio about Batman V Superman/Snydercut JL as an example? Most I see treat that as Snyder’s baby wholesale, as an example.

That really is a poor comparison… 300 pages of threads over 25 years… overlooking and glossing over others who contributed to the Original Trilogy… and you compare it to an example conversation/thread on Batman v Superman?

All whilst ignoring the history of TFN with OOT fans - and outlook in general, even today - as mentioned previously.

Well, you’re in luck - there’s plenty to learn about the many contributions of others to the Original Trilogy on here. 👍

Mocata said:

oojason said:

Yeah, I think Mocata was being somewhat sardonic or flippant

I would never.

😉
 

TharRandomMan96 said:

How can I get a copy of this?

 
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Dagenspear said:

oojason said:

Have you tried looking over at TFN…? 😉

Mocata said:

Oh I bet they love us over there.

Been there. I see generally criticism of Lucas’ writing choices as well as other things. Even though the majority seems to err on the side that Lucas was a stronger creative than all of the ST writers. Which is a sentiment I think moreso similarly on.

Yeah, I think Mocata was being somewhat sardonic or flippant - given TFN’s history of treating Original Trilogy fans… poorly:-

2️⃣ Ⓓ • Other websites / communities supposed issues with OT•com, the Original Trilogy, or the unaltered theatrical cuts

 
Of course TFN would seemingly have that majority view… as the likes of Kasdan, Huyck, Katz and others who contributed to the OT are often overlooked or glossed over by many on there - despite being stronger creative writers than those of the ST… and also than George and Hales for the PT. Yet it is baffling that many forget, or neglect to mention, the above contributors.

Though fair play to George when it comes to his writing - he does admit: “I bleed on the page, and it’s just awful…”

BreadWizardd said:

Hi, Could I please get a link to your edit

 
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Mocata said:

So… is the only real movie The Mando one or is that going to be cancelled after the fact WB style?

 
Ha! 😃 It seems like that at times - it is certainly difficult to keep track! I think…

2025…

Lego Star Wars: Rebuild The Galaxy - Pieces Of The Past | 19th September, 2025 | animated 4-part mini-series on Disney+
Visions - Volume 3 | 29th October, 2025 | animated series

2026…

Mandalorian & Grogu | 22nd May, 2026 | theatrical film
Maul: Shadow Lord | ? 2026 | animated series
Ahsoka (season 2) | ? 2026 | live-action series
Visions Presents The Ninth Jedi | ? 2026 | animated series

2027…

Star Wars - 50th anniversary theatrical re-release | 30th April, 2027 | no confirmation for which version is being shown…
50th anniversary content | including an official OOT release…?
Starfighter | 28th May, 2027 | theatrical film
Spaceballs II | ? 2027 | theatrical film (yeah, a parody - yet it is one of the few SW-based things I’m looking forward to watching)

Unknown Release Dates for…

Dawn Of The Jedi | theatrical film
Heir To The Empire | theatrical film
New Jedi Order - single Rey film | theatrical film
Simon Kinberg’s ‘Rey’ Trilogy | theatrical films

and then we have the films / series seemingly in the long-term ‘in development hell’…

Lando | series or film?
A Droid Story | animated / CGI series
Taika Waititi’s film | theatrical film

^ and there’ll probably be another ‘Tales Of The ?’ animated-shorts series somewhere. Plus more ‘Lego Star Wars’ content etc.

As well as the rumoured Star Wars live action series by Carlton Cuse (not officially announced - though reported by THR).

Tony Gilroy mentioned a ‘Star Wars Horror Movie Is “In the Works”’ - in an interview with Collider. Taika Waititi’s film, maybe?
 

www.starwarsgamesonline.com

 
24 basic and familiar old-skool Star Wars games - all free to play - no high-end pc, sign-in, or registration required.

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https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Has-anyone-Read-the-Book-The-Secret-History-of-Star-Wars-by-Michael-Kaminski/id/102459/page/1#1575858 - essay / assignment spam (https://originaltrilogy.com/user/carlmorgan/id/76323)

tonsoffun2886 said:

This edit sounds awesome, would love a Link Pls.

 
Why not simply follow the instructions laid out in the opening post of Buzz Lightyear’s project?:-

Buzz Lightyear said:

If anyone’s interested in checking it out, feel free to send me a PM.

 
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Henry Dunant
 

 
'Henry Dunant won the very first Nobel Peace Prize in 1901.

Passing through Solferino, Italy, during the Second Italian War of Independence, Dunant was appalled at the suffering that he saw. In 1862, he published a book, A Memory of Solferino, which described the efforts that were being made to care for the wounded at the scene. He also proposed a plan.

Dunant suggested the nations of the world should form their own relief societies to care for the wounded and train volunteers on the best ways to treat them. He also wanted the governments of the world to guarantee that wounded soldiers would be treated and that those treating them would be guaranteed safe passage.

Dunant traveled all over Europe promoting his plan, and on August 22, 1864, 12 nations signed the first Geneva Convention, agreeing to “guarantee neutrality to sanitary personnel, to expedite supplies for their use, and to adopt a special identifying emblem—in virtually all instances a red cross on a field of white.”

Henry Dunant had helped to bring about the first Geneva Convention, which has saved the lives of thousands of soldiers around the world. He also founded the Red Cross.’

^ from https://listverse.com/2018/06/22/10-people-youve-never-heard-of-who-changed-the-world
 

more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Dunant
 

a3s54t452423 said:

DJPitaB I really want access, my favorite show!! I can’t DM people for 7 days, could you please DM the link?

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Unrealmadness’ 1995 Original Trilogy Betamax Preservation - Blue Edition; released in Mexico

^ posted with kind permission by Unrealmadness on TSWT…

^ the above images are not from the actual set preserved itself - but from another 1995 OT Beta set (posted here for illustration).

I think this is the first complete Betamax preservation project online for the Original Trilogy that I’ve seen in years - possibly the first full set I’ve ever seen… so all credit and kudos to Unrealmadness for undertaking such a project - and also making it available to everyone. 👍

Star Wars: 2.19gb - an mkv file.
Empire Strikes Back: 2.25gb - an mkv file.
Return Of The Jedi: 2.38gb - an mmkv file.

^ Audio for all 3 OT films is in English - with Mexican-Spanish subtitles.

Although the video below is not a box set release - it does contain relevant info for the 3 OT films being released on Beta in 1995…

‘From the Star Wars Home Video Library #390​: 1995 Mexican Beta Original Trilogy’ (with the John Alvin artwork):-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fknIXJjPU1s - a 6 minute video at the Nathan Butler youtube channel.

Available via 📍 300+ available Original Trilogy Preservations - from a long time ago . . . . 📍 - or on the TSWT forum.

hharlan23 said:

I’m asking for help.

No - you’re clearly wanting and expecting others to do the work for you.
 

hharlan23 said:

Send me a link in the comments when each episode is uncut and done completely.

hharlan23 said:

Have you fixed the end credits music?

Just stop.

Stop with the inane questions, especially to people you know are no longer around the site, so cannot answer them.

Stop with the numerous project threads where you expect others to do the actual work for you.

Stop with posting links to full downloads of copyrighted material on here.

Stop with asking if it is okay you take others’ work from here - and then sell it on etsy.
 

Grow up - or go find somewhere else to ‘troll’.
 

Amazing - loving that ‘laserdisc rental’ logo!
 

You are knocking these laserdisc preservations out of the park with all these rare releases - all credit and kudos to you, enater. Some of us weren’t ever sure we’d see this rare and oft-talked about release again. 👍
 

I’ve added this to the Project Index, too.