lakamosque said:
That guy with no name said:
What lies? What manipulations? Please indulge me, you seem to be an expert.
“advertising hit piece”. Are you ok?
Are you serious? The “professor” says this, making it sound like the editors introduced the following idea in the final battle: “The Death Star was not about to destroy the Rebel Base.” This was a story point since the third draft and in a slightly different manner, it was there in the second draft. Yep, the Death Star was relaxing waiting to be blown up. It totally wasn’t tracking the Millennium Falcon to discover and destroy the hidden Rebel Base. /s And that’s only one lie or how about the times they quote Rinzler’s book, but omit in-between sentences to change the context.
As for advertising, it’s an advertisement for a pretend online film school which, as of writing, no longer exists, lol. It’s a hit piece against George, that’s crystal clear like how the “professor” complains about George changing the text on the terminal from English to Aurebesh as if no one can understand what a bar suddenly decreasing after Obi-Wan turns a lever means, lmao.
I’m perfectly fine thank you very much however you don’t sound ok to me.
“The Death Star was not about to destroy the Rebel Base.” - huh… at 14m 45s into the RocketJump video:-
“But here’s the big difference: in that version [in the script] the Death Star wasn’t about to destroy the Rebel Base. I’ll say that again: the Death Star wasn’t about to destroy the Rebel Base… it was literally just sitting there waiting to be blown up. This is where Marcia Lucas came in: the first thing she did was recut the trench run - basically from the ground up [continues]…” - RocketJump.
…and here is Marcia Lucas in her own words stating she recut the Death Star trench run scenes and introduced the concept of ‘a countdown clock’ for the Death Star to destroy the Rebel Base:-
At 1h 08m 18s into this 2019 fascinating interview with Marcia and Ben Burtt (the whole thing is well worth a watch):-
“The thing that was missing was the ‘time-clock’: like how much time does Luke have to make his shot before something horrible is going to happen… and so we had earlier footage from the film…” [a few seconds later] “so we added that time-element” [continues on - and is very much worth watching]…
So without Marcia introducing that ‘time-element’ - ‘a countdown clock’ - the ‘Death Star wasn’t about to destroy the Rebel Base’… this is what RocketJump alludes to, no?
lakamosque said:
RocketJump’s video is an advertising hit piece for a pretend film school. Blame George for the genuine screw ups he did, but heavily implying he was the cause for every problem in the movie, manipulating and lying, and going “Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!” is so utterly disingenuous. It just makes everyone that wants to see the theatrical versions look bad.
Except, the RJ video didn’t do that. It didn’t do that at all.
“I think George’s ‘ace in the hole’ was that he surrounded himself with an incredible team of people to work with, and listening and collaborating with them to help refine his incredible vision.”
^ The RocketJump video in their summing up.
That not only applies to the editing of the film - but also the overall making of Star Wars itself. Not forgetting, of course, that near-on all films are ‘made’ / ‘saved’ in the editing process - “they say a film is written three times; first in the screenplay, next in production, and finally… in the edit.”
And yet so what if it did highlight Marcia’s contributions, or Richard Chew, or Paul Hirsch - or all 3 of them. Why not? It doesn’t take away from George - nor attacks or discredits him - it simply highlights the effect good and clever editing can have upon a film.
It was after George fan-boys & zealots watched that vitriolic Nerdonymous video did they seemed to be triggered into somehow thinking what you claim above.
Rocketjump’s video is ‘A video essay exploring how Star Wars’ editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became’ and is about the power and effects of film editing in general. The RJ video does indeed feature a few factual errors - though some of Nerdonymous claims and statements in his video are obviously nothing to do with RocketJump… but Nerdonymous’ own issues with fans he considers not to like George Lucas - or fans seemingly acknowledging or praising others’ contributions to the making of the Original Trilogy.
Including issues including this community.
^ Nerdonymous seems to get quite triggered and angry about it too… the agenda seething through… as he progresses with his “some fans”… “they want to burn him (Lucas) to the ground” & “they want to take everything away from him” spiel; whilst showing a FactRepublic image stating some of Marcia’s contributions to the film, and some of what she edited - for which she won an Oscar for (along with Hirsch and Chew).
So when you try to claim: “It just makes everyone that wants to see the theatrical versions look bad.” - is that an attempt at gaslighting? (I hope not). If it is, kindly knock it off. You may want to think about wising up there - doing something a little more constructive other than being an apologist for a vitriolic youtuber… who has issues with fan preservations.
On here, we acknowledge and highlight the many contributions of everyone who worked on the Original Trilogy films - especially those who have been written out of the official history, or have had their roles downplayed, or diminished.
There is more information on Marcia’s contributions (and many others) which can be found here…
• A few videos, interviews and specials etc… on Marcia Lucas and her many contributions to the Original Trilogy films
• Original Trilogy Film Crew & People Behind The Scenes: Profiles, Info & Links - 100+ creatives’ contributions to the OT…
• 3️⃣ Ⓒ • Many other pioneering and creative talents who collaborated and contributed to the making of the Original Trilogy
^ in An Index Thread for… Original Trilogy Discussion - please note the long-standing ‘caution’ under the Marcia Lucas section. 👍
