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Ed Slushie said:

Would it make sense to change Palpatine’s line “The Princess of Alderaan has disrupted my plans” to “The Queen of Alderaan…”? On one hand, the audience knows her as a princess and it wouldn’t make sense to be crowned the queen of a planet that no longer exists, but on the other hand… after all that time, not to mention the death of her parents, wouldn’t she be considered a queen, at least in the eyes of the few remaining Alderaanians?

Continuity-wise, after Leia and another Alderaanian named Evaan Verlaine help the survivors of Alderaan gather, resettle, and hide from the Empire, eventually Evaan is chosen as the new queen (elected Naboo-style, at Leia’s suggestion). It isn’t exactly clear on when that happened, though. The panel in the comic that it happens in is just kind of… ambiguously in the future.

Is it bad that I like the ‘Goonies’ moment? Sure, it’s contrived and cheesy, but it feels very classical adventure movie, very pulp.

Broom Kid said:

I’m not sure the way to improve this movie is to make it shorter

Why not?

This sentiment has been brought up in multiple justifications for leaving in scenes that don’t really work and aspects of the film that are broken, and it seems to point to the idea that a movie being short disqualifies it from being good? Or “better” in this specific instance.

It’s like there’s an arbitrary notion that the goodness of the movie somehow counts less if the movie is only 90+ minutes long. I don’t understand why - if through proper pacing and clever editing, which is usually only ascertained by actually trying ideas out and seeing how they work in the larger context of the edit - the only way to make the movie better seems to involve keeping all the broken bits that are already there and that we know don’t really work very well, and then adding even MORE broken bits to it and trying to tape them all back together, for the sake of not much more than being able to say “well, it’s not too short, at least.”

What are the targets that are most important to aim at and hit when it comes to making a better version of this film? Is overall run-time really one of those targets?

It’s not like Star Wars stops being “Star Wars” because it’s not over 2 hours long. Being a fan-editor is tough enough as it is considering all the things that have to be compromised before you can even start. Why add even more unnecessary complications and roadblocks to making the best thing you can?

My point is that the movie feels like it’s rushing through itself enough as it is. I don’t think that making it go FASTER is the way to resolve the pacing issues.

moondear said:

I posted the below in Hal’s thread and was also made aware of this one, figured I’d post it here too.

In the early days of lockdown I did a very rough edit merging TLJ and TROS together, which later turned into two separate movies and creating links between them, but I never finished it.

Here’s some of my ideas from the TROS end of it, perhaps something works for one of your edits?:

• Cut the guys seeing Rey leave Exegol. It makes her reunion with Finn much more emotional:

https://vimeo.com/423996042
pass: fanedit

• Got rid of the space horses, it was always ridiculous to me. Video below is not how it’s edited as it’s missing a massive chunk. Just wanted to quickly show how Finn not saying “I have something for that” works and then showing how the landing bit works:

https://vimeo.com/423995968
pass: fanedit

• Shifted Rey and Finn’s conversation about her on the Sith throne in Ochi’s ship to after they rescue Chewie and are talking in the Falcon. Where Finn says she doesn’t sound like herself, it just fits better here for me (had to do some minor FX + grading to make the shot fit):

https://vimeo.com/423995946
pass: fanedit

• Experimented with Rey not stabbing Kylo, but we do see her give her life force to snake thing earlier to establish the force power. Imo, this gives Rey’s death more impact and makes Ben’s life force sacrifice more meaningful:

https://vimeo.com/423995990
pass: fanedit

• Cut Chewie’s “death” and Rey’s extreme burst of lightning power that blows up the transport ship and all mentions of his death. Although I’m not sure if this works all that well because of the way the guys react when they found out he’s still alive:

https://vimeo.com/423995874
pass: fanedit

• C3PO never gets his memories back, nor is there any mention of R2 being able to restore it. It makes his emotional goodbye actually mean something! I truly hated the “no consequences” element of the movie.

• Removed Finn trying to tell Rey something…but he never actually does, so it just feels odd.

• Removed Rey’s and Kylo’s kiss because it just looks awkward as hell…

These are neat, but I’m not sure the way to improve this movie is to make it shorter. Also, space horses dope.

Panakin said:

omnimuffin said:

Panakin said:

omnimuffin said:

Panakin said:

omnimuffin said:

Panakin said:

Why not cut out 3P0s memory thing altogether. Perhaps Photoshop in the dagger & the Planet its on in Reys book ? Also instead of the book being about the old Jedi order teachings & lessons. Why not simply have it be about powerful force objects / weapons / force training & learning specific moves etc. It never sat right with me that Yoda would want the old ways of the Jedi 2 continue. Wasn’t part of the PT & OT all about Yoda learning the old ways were flawed & problematic ?

I mean, not in their entire. The obsession with their dogma and their connection to the corrupt Republic was the flaw. The core ideas- peacekeeping, empathy, justice, standing against the dark- these are good, and pure, and they were part of the Jedi long before the Republic crumble beneath its own weight.

Plus, it’s easier to know what flaws of the old ways to avoid if you, uh, know what the old ways are. You know what they say- ‘those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it’.

But Yoda already learned the old Jedi ways did not work. Qui-Gon KNEW the old ways didnt work. Yoda & Qui-Gon alone would show up & explain things. This simply is not any other franchise. The old ways would be completely avoided in proper movies that gave a damn about decent story telling

Oh, you mean like Qui-Gon’s ghost showed up to tell Luke or Obi-Wan what to change about their teachings? We all remember that scene in the original trilogy. It was one of my favourites.

Also, original research will always trump a ghost lecturing you in terms of comprehensive knowledge. Jedi are monks, baby. They’re all ABOUT that research. They’re a bunch of hot nerds with laser swords, after all.

In movies THAT GAVE A DAMN ABOUT CONTINUITY yes the Ghosts would show up & guide Luke & help him avoid making the same mistakes & AVOID making more Darth Vaders for the sake of the Galaxy

Luke’s mistake had nothing to do with flawed prequel Jedi teachings. We have no evidence, frankly, that these conversations didn’t happen. In fact, all evidence points to Luke’s Jedi being a more conscientious bunch.

Kylo turned because he was corrupted by Palpatine, in secret. He was already ass deep in it when Luke went to confront him. Luke’s bad reaction to sensing this pushed him over the edge, sure, but it wasn’t the entire reason, and it had nothing to do with Luke inheriting the flaws of the old Jedi.

Ben Solo is not Anakin Skywalker. He didn’t fall because of some desperate, obsessive desire to save a loved one. Ben Solo fell to the dark side because a) Palpatine had been speaking to him in his head, whispering in his ear, since childhood, feeding his doubts and insecurities, and b) because Ben Solo believed his bloodline, his ‘inheritance’ made him better than his fellow Jedi.

The movies make this pretty clear, honestly. He processes everything through the lens of ‘I am the most important person in this story’. He obsesses with Anakin’s saber, seeing as his birthright. He obsesses over Vader’s legacy and his artifacts. When he tries to turn Rey, it’s ‘you don’t have a place in this story’. He claims to want to destroy the past, but he can’t, because Kylo Ren is obsessed with his role as the inheritor of legacies. It’s a core facet of who Kylo Ren is.

Anakin would have seen what was happening with Ben like Yoda saw what was going on with Luke. Anakin gets through 2 Ben by explaining things with his own words. These movies as is are just bad fan fiction

Would he have? Force ghosts are not gods. They aren’t omnipotent, and they clearly can’t always appear anywhere at all times. Qui-gon certainly didn’t show up on Dagobah to tell Luke that he didn’t have to kill Vader, and that there was a better way. Nope! It was just Obi-Wan and Yoda, telling Luke that he HAD to kill his father.

Panakin said:

omnimuffin said:

Panakin said:

omnimuffin said:

Panakin said:

Why not cut out 3P0s memory thing altogether. Perhaps Photoshop in the dagger & the Planet its on in Reys book ? Also instead of the book being about the old Jedi order teachings & lessons. Why not simply have it be about powerful force objects / weapons / force training & learning specific moves etc. It never sat right with me that Yoda would want the old ways of the Jedi 2 continue. Wasn’t part of the PT & OT all about Yoda learning the old ways were flawed & problematic ?

I mean, not in their entire. The obsession with their dogma and their connection to the corrupt Republic was the flaw. The core ideas- peacekeeping, empathy, justice, standing against the dark- these are good, and pure, and they were part of the Jedi long before the Republic crumble beneath its own weight.

Plus, it’s easier to know what flaws of the old ways to avoid if you, uh, know what the old ways are. You know what they say- ‘those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it’.

But Yoda already learned the old Jedi ways did not work. Qui-Gon KNEW the old ways didnt work. Yoda & Qui-Gon alone would show up & explain things. This simply is not any other franchise. The old ways would be completely avoided in proper movies that gave a damn about decent story telling

Oh, you mean like Qui-Gon’s ghost showed up to tell Luke or Obi-Wan what to change about their teachings? We all remember that scene in the original trilogy. It was one of my favourites.

Also, original research will always trump a ghost lecturing you in terms of comprehensive knowledge. Jedi are monks, baby. They’re all ABOUT that research. They’re a bunch of hot nerds with laser swords, after all.

In movies THAT GAVE A DAMN ABOUT CONTINUITY yes the Ghosts would show up & guide Luke & help him avoid making the same mistakes & AVOID making more Darth Vaders for the sake of the Galaxy

Luke’s mistake had nothing to do with flawed prequel Jedi teachings. We have no evidence, frankly, that these conversations didn’t happen. In fact, all evidence points to Luke’s Jedi being a more conscientious bunch.

Kylo turned because he was corrupted by Palpatine, in secret. He was already ass deep in it when Luke went to confront him. Luke’s bad reaction to sensing this pushed him over the edge, sure, but it wasn’t the entire reason, and it had nothing to do with Luke inheriting the flaws of the old Jedi.

This was Luke’s flaw; his fear of his loved ones being harmed. He, for an instant, as he looked into Ben’s mind, perceived Ben Solo as a threat to everything he cared for, and that same instinct that led to him nearly brutalizing Vader to death on the Death Star resurfaced. The battle against the dark side inside each and every person is lifelong, and Luke is unfortunately no exception.

Ben Solo is not Anakin Skywalker. He didn’t fall because of some desperate, obsessive desire to save a loved one. Ben Solo fell to the dark side because a) Palpatine had been speaking to him in his head, whispering in his ear, since childhood, feeding his doubts and insecurities, and b) because Ben Solo believed his bloodline, his ‘inheritance’ made him better than his fellow Jedi.

The movies make this pretty clear, honestly. He processes everything through the lens of ‘I am the most important person in this story’. He obsesses with Anakin’s saber, seeing as his birthright. He obsesses over Vader’s legacy and his artifacts. When he tries to turn Rey, it’s ‘you don’t have a place in this story’. He claims to want to destroy the past, but he can’t, because Kylo Ren is obsessed with his role as the inheritor of legacies. It’s a core facet of who Kylo Ren is.

Panakin said:

omnimuffin said:

Panakin said:

Why not cut out 3P0s memory thing altogether. Perhaps Photoshop in the dagger & the Planet its on in Reys book ? Also instead of the book being about the old Jedi order teachings & lessons. Why not simply have it be about powerful force objects / weapons / force training & learning specific moves etc. It never sat right with me that Yoda would want the old ways of the Jedi 2 continue. Wasn’t part of the PT & OT all about Yoda learning the old ways were flawed & problematic ?

I mean, not in their entire. The obsession with their dogma and their connection to the corrupt Republic was the flaw. The core ideas- peacekeeping, empathy, justice, standing against the dark- these are good, and pure, and they were part of the Jedi long before the Republic crumble beneath its own weight.

Plus, it’s easier to know what flaws of the old ways to avoid if you, uh, know what the old ways are. You know what they say- ‘those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it’.

But Yoda already learned the old Jedi ways did not work. Qui-Gon KNEW the old ways didnt work. Yoda & Qui-Gon alone would show up & explain things. This simply is not any other franchise. The old ways would be completely avoided in proper movies that gave a damn about decent story telling

Oh, you mean like Qui-Gon’s ghost showed up to tell Luke or Obi-Wan what to change about their teachings? We all remember that scene in the original trilogy. It was one of my favourites.

Also, original research will always trump a ghost lecturing you in terms of comprehensive knowledge. Jedi are monks, baby. They’re all ABOUT that research. They’re a bunch of hot nerds with laser swords, after all.

Panakin said:

Why not cut out 3P0s memory thing altogether. Perhaps Photoshop in the dagger & the Planet its on in Reys book ? Also instead of the book being about the old Jedi order teachings & lessons. Why not simply have it be about powerful force objects / weapons / force training & learning specific moves etc. It never sat right with me that Yoda would want the old ways of the Jedi 2 continue. Wasn’t part of the PT & OT all about Yoda learning the old ways were flawed & problematic ?

I mean, not in their entire. The obsession with their dogma and their connection to the corrupt Republic was the flaw. The core ideas- peacekeeping, empathy, justice, standing against the dark- these are good, and pure, and they were part of the Jedi long before the Republic crumble beneath its own weight.

Plus, it’s easier to know what flaws of the old ways to avoid if you, uh, know what the old ways are. You know what they say- ‘those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it’.

Anakin Starkiller said:

jonh said:

Hal 9000 said:

jonh, how about you call in as “the Phantom four” or “Spectre four” or some synonym for ghost?

Or “Jedi Haircut” lol

“this is the Phantom four, standing by” i like it!!!
I send it to you today 😃

Canonically, the crew use Specter as a callsign, with each member being Specter 1-6. The Phantom is the name of the small ship that attaches to the back of the Ghost.

After 3PO says “One last look… at my friends!” it would be cool to have a short montage of Luke, Han and Leia from the Original Trilogy. This would make is appear 3PO is accessing his memory banks of Luke, Han and Leia instead.

No, that’s a horrible idea. The ST is already too obsessed with OT as it is. I’d allow the montage if it includes the Prequels and a bit of the Sequels, tying it all together, but just the Originals would be insulting. I get that has Prequel memories haven’t been restored at this point, but that’s not important.

Honestly, the moment hits just fine for me with no visible flashback.

I should be able to cut together a ‘Colossus, reporting in’, or an ‘Ace Squadron, reporting in’ from dialogue from Resistance, since we know they’re there (and can actually see the Aces in a few shots, complete with lovely new ILM-made models), if anybody is interested. I know it’s not folks’ favorite show, but it could be nice to include for some continuity.

Since the novelization (and some of the proposed crawls, along with Visual Dictionary stuff, so frankly, probably earlier drafts of the script and possibly filmed scenes) mention major resistance groups in other parts of the galaxy, cut off from each other by First Order jamming tech, it might be worth coming up with some other continuity-inspired fleet names, outside of ‘Mon Cala fleet’. Maybe ‘Batuu Cell’, the Virgillian Free Alignment, ‘Onderon Fleet’, stuff like that.

It might be fun to include some Legends callouts, too- Iblis Fleet (named after Garm El Iblis, the Legends Rebellion Leader), or just straight-up Katana Fleet.

DarthYcey said:

joshuabri said:

Here is a quick mock up.
https://vimeo.com/422141075
Password: deathstar
Samuel Kim’s full track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHxOg6zNg9Q

Bear in mind my edit is removing Palpatine and this acts as the final big showdown. It will be intercut with the fleet battle over Exegol so I will probably rescore each section individually for better timing of musical cues, nor did I bother smoothing the film’s audio where Finn and Jannah were cut.

Not bad, but if you’re looking to use Samuel Kim’s music for that final duel, you may want to consider something that is less prequel-specific. Here’s a version with Sam’s TROS Battlefront 2 mix that uses motifs from Kylo and Rey and seems to fit better IMO.

https://vimeo.com/422058008
fanedit

Oooooh, I like this version, with the BF2/TROS mix.

darkshadowspike said:

DarthYcey said:

Eh, I’ve seen the Battle of the Heroes and DotF music mentioned multiple times here, but personally don’t know why we’d want to borrow a prequel-specific theme for the final Kylo/Rey duel.

-This is suppose to be the ending of all episodes, it should also include PT OST, not only OST from the OT.

-DOTF was promised in several tv spots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjdjyvnOGtg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCByZ0oiaxQ

-DOTF is the most emblematic and epic lightsaber duel soundtrack of the entire saga, and it should be in the final lightsaber duel.

-Kylo v Rey duel is suppose to be a motif to Anakin’s and Obi-wan Duel in mustafar

-This movie doesn’t have anything meaningful to say and is just fan service, the more fan service that could be included that helps to tie the entire saga, the better.

-Myself and a lot of people wanted/expected DOTF in that movie as john williamns promised that every iconic soundtrack of SW was going to be in TROS.

-DOTF is awesome is a shame that only is present in 2 of 9 films.

-Hal9000 if you don’t really want DOTF in the main TROS audio, at least put an alternative audio that includes it, for those who really want it in the movie (like myself) :d.

I don’t know if I’d say that it doesn’t have ANYTHING meaningful to say. Just that I don’t think it says it well.

Knight of Kalee said:

I could go with either ship. Vader’s TIE Advanced works better as fanservice, but I’ve always been fond of the Lambda shuttle. Arguably, if we bring continuity issues and general geekness to the table, it’s equally nonsensical to pretend a ship survived the Death Star explosion and remain functional after 30 years of wear, be it the shuttle or Vader’s TIE. The minor advantage the shuttle has over the TIE is that it appeared prominently in ROTJ and one was glimpsed when Rey climbed the DS structure.

I don’t know what you guys think but for me, it’s easier to forgive Vader’s TIE being somewhere in the DS wreckage, than Luke’s fighter magically regenerating its missing wing when being lifted out of the water.

I am legally compelled, as a pedantic doofus, to point out that the entire wing wasn’t removed to make Luke’s door, just a piece of the outer panelling; the door isn’t thick enough to be the entire wing.

darkshadowspike said:

omnimuffin said:

I’ve been playing with audio clips to see how feasible it is to replace ‘Final Order’ with ‘Sith Eternal’.

hmmm why not put empire? to imply that is still the same old empire, after all palpatine is still alive with a fleet, the ending of ROTJ wasn’t respected at all by TROS anyway.

Cuz’ that what all of the other canon material calls the Sith Cult on Exegol. I’m a big fan of continuity.

jarbear said:

omnimuffin said:

Hal 9000 said:

That makes a lot of sense when it’s laid out like that.

In the movie it felt like, “Kill her. Or bring her to me, or… you know what, why don’t you just kill me?”

I think it’s a symptom of the movie’s breakneck pace. It’s why it’s so tragic that the movie doesn’t have any released deleted scenes, because between the novelization and the leaks, a (IMO) pretty solid movie was filmed, it just got lost in edits.

It doesn’t help that JJ Abrams seems to edit/direct movies under the belief that if he pauses the action or lets exposition run for more than fifteen seconds at a time, he will literally die. Like the movie Speed, but with bad movie editing.

So … is Jj’s style is like a shark and has to to keep moving or it’ll die?

Apparently, yes.

darkshadowspike said:

The final order…ugh… is posible to remove that name from the film?

I’ve been playing with audio clips to see how feasible it is to replace ‘Final Order’ with ‘Sith Eternal’. I can’t find any clips of Ian Mcdiarmid saying ‘eternal’, but in Battlefront 2, one of Palpatine’s dialogue lines includes the word ‘eternal’, so I’m going to see if I can match those up well enough that it doesn’t sound weird.

Hal 9000 said:

That makes a lot of sense when it’s laid out like that.

In the movie it felt like, “Kill her. Or bring her to me, or… you know what, why don’t you just kill me?”

I think it’s a symptom of the movie’s breakneck pace. It’s why it’s so tragic that the movie doesn’t have any released deleted scenes, because between the novelization and the leaks, a (IMO) pretty solid movie was filmed, it just got lost in edits.

It doesn’t help that JJ Abrams seems to edit/direct movies under the belief that if he pauses the action or lets exposition run for more than fifteen seconds at a time, he will literally die. Like the movie Speed, but with bad movie editing.

A PRIME example of this is that he (and Lawrence Kasdan) scripted and filmed scenes with and about the New Republic senate. The shot of the New Republic senate we see as Hosnian Prime was destroyed were originally meant to be characters we’d seen earlier in the movie. Korr Sella, Maisie Richardson-Sellers’s character who can be seen briefly as the planet is destroyed, was Leia’s emissary to the senate, sent there with all of their evidence that the First Order is violating treaties and planning an attack to finally convince the New Republic to move against the First Order. But no; JJ thinks worldbuilding is scary, so we lost those scenes.

idir_hh said:

Would have been sick to have Palpatine hiding in the sith shrine deep below the temple instead of Exogol, right under the noses of the New Republic and The First Order. Imagine the surprise of the destroyers emerging from deep below the surface of the industrial regions of the capital. A true power play.

Judging from this concept art this may have been the case in an early draft.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1218324295765512192/photo/1

Hm. I’d read that concept art as an initial version of the Mustafar sequence, with him finding the wayfinder within the Emperor’s vaults instead of what is meant to be the area nearby Vader’s castle.

That being said, that is a dope visual.

kewlfish said:

This may have been discussed before I joined the forum, but what are Palpatine’s motivations in this edit? That was one of the muddiest parts of the movie was that he wanted Rey dead, but he really didn’t because he told her his plan was always for Kylo to bring her to Exegol.

I always thought that was pretty straightforward. I have a lot of problems with this movie, but I don’t really think Palpatine’s motivations were one of them.

Palpatine initially intended to have Kylo kill Rey and become his new host body. This remains his plan up until Leia reaches out through the force and Rey heals Kylo, resulting in Ben returning to the light.

PALPATINE: The Princess of Alderaan has disrupted my plan… but her foolish act will be in vain. Come to me on Exegol, General Pryde.

Send a ship to a world they know. Let it burn. The Final Order begins. She will come, her friends will follow.

At this point, his plan changes, because Kylo is no longer a viable option, but Rey, who is clearly struggling with the darkness within her, IS.

This remains his plan up until the final confrontation, at which point Rey rejects his influence, and so he settles on simply draining Ben and Rey of their life-force. In doing so, he discovers the true strength of their connection, the Dyad, and realizes he can use the strength inherent in the bond to restore the withered clone husk body he’s inhabiting. Because his body has been restored, he no longer needs Rey or Ben.

jonh said:

omnimuffin said:

My only problem with using Jedi temple shots TOO unchanged is that it’s important to remember that the Jedi Temple was remodeled into the Imperial Palace, so it’s probably looking at least a WEE bit more sinister these days, at least on the inside.

sorry! that where it appears? I’m not following the expanded universe or legends😅

In Lucasfilm Canon, it’s mostly appeared in a bunch of (very good) comics and novels. Here’s a picture:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/DQqz0

The exterior structure is mostly the same, save for some lovely banners. The interior appears have had at least some degree of structural change, however, at least based on what we see of the throne room and the Emperor’s vault.

Here’s the throne room, as illustrated in the comic adaption of the first of the new Thrawn books- looks pretty similar to his throne room on the Death Star:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/3/36/Emperors_throne_room_Imperial_Palace.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180220134421

However, looking over the various related comics, it looks as though most of the actual interior structures have remained intact, they’ve just been stripped of their Jedi symbolism and statues and the like, and instead replaced with imperial symbolism and statuaries and all that.

This isn’t directly relevant (I just like talking about lore), but it’s kind of implied that Palaptine chose to turn the temple into the Imperial Palace because the Jedi temple was, eons ago, built atop a Sith shrine. During an ancient war with the Sith, the Sith built a shrine in that location and, through heinous bloodshed and general Sith-ery, created a nexus of Dark Side power. The Jedi Temple was built on that location to cap and contain that dark power, in order to prevent it from directly corrupting the rest of Coruscant.

I’m sure that, at the very least, most of the Imperial symbols and relics would have been stripped away by 35 ABY, which is roughly when the ST takes place.

My only problem with using Jedi temple shots TOO unchanged is that it’s important to remember that the Jedi Temple was remodeled into the Imperial Palace, so it’s probably looking at least a WEE bit more sinister these days, at least on the inside.

idir_hh said:

The leaks came out 3 months before the release, just after the reshoots
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/d5i0ye/the_basic_plot_of_the_rise_of_skywalker_updated/

That’s when that version of the leaks came out. A good chunk of the information in it was leaked long, long before then. As somebody who obsessively checked leaks on the movie, ‘Rey Palpatine’ came out in what later turned out to be credible leaks LONG before the JediPaxis leaks.

idir_hh said:

“Rey palpatine” was definately an after-thought. Her reaction in the film just doesn’t match.

Why would it be in leaks as old as a YEAR, though? That’s a pretty early afterthought.

kewlfish said:

omnimuffin said:

https://vocaroo.com/kgwcZdc8MYl

I did a purely audio-based proof of concept for playing with and cleaning up the ‘More than a Clone, Less than a Man’ line from Ian. I can send y’all the raw files without music behind them if you want!

Nice work! Now we just need to find a line or someone who can impersonate Adam Driver’s voice to replace that really, really badly dubbed line where his arm is in front of his face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shYsuOWp8Es - timestamp 1:35… smh

I’m not sure that’s bad dubbing, that’s just how Adam Driver sounds, lol. He’s a weird-sounding dude.

https://vocaroo.com/kgwcZdc8MYl

I did a purely audio-based proof of concept for playing with and cleaning up the ‘More than a Clone, Less than a Man’ line from Ian. I can send y’all the raw files without music behind them if you want!