SilverWook said:
Another brainstorm. When Grievous deploys his four armed surprise in the duel, it's accompanied by the classic Transformers sound effect?
Or something of Goro from Mortal Kombat.
TV's Frink said:
Here's McCroskey jumping just before impact.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYyEWqwdnw
I think this is the version I'm going with.
Exactly as I imagined it originally! Looks great.
TV's Frink said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hRihymRI_I
So should I do it like this to preserve the control tower's reaction to McCroskey jumping out, or cut right after he hits the window so it closer timed to the crash?
I like Lloyd jumping out just before the crash.
TV's Frink said:
Well...I think it may be easier to explain once I have the footage in place, so stay tuned.
Eager is not a color, but if it were, I would be that color.
How about this exchange...?
Han: "It's gonna cost you something extra..."
Obi Wan: "I can give you 15,000 now... and TWO when we reach Alderaan."
Luke: "10,000??? We can almost buy our own ship for that!"
RicOlie_2 said:
Maybe a fade from normal life on Tatooine to the Lars family BBQ with their party hats to indicate that they are the only ones celebrating the "end of imperial power."
I like this. I'll try to mock it up soon if I can.
Before Luke and Obi Wan enter the cantina, Luke says "I'm ready for anything."
Perhaps Luke could repeat this once or twice inside the cantina to himself, after he glances around at various aliens, then when Luke gets bullied, he yells "BEN, TELL HIM I'M REA-" just as he gets shoved to the floor and Obi Wan has to protect him.
The nature of Revisited, to me, is change for the sake of quality, not change for the sake of change. That is the difference. How does changing "oomphs" and "ahhhs" add up to being something that absolutely needs to be done for ESB:R when it was fine in ESB to begin with?
I believe that some people may be just throwing out suggestions just to do it, because there really isn't anything else that Ady can do besides complete the model work and the audio, and there's very little in ESB that needed to be fixed, on the audio side.
RicOlie_2 said:
deepanddark20 said:
Exactly. Then while Palpatine is in the middle of saying "no" repeatedly, show Windu lift his lightsaber in the air out of frustration, like he's going to kill him just to shut him up.
Come to think of it, I think Anakin might scream "No" somewhere around there too. The whole thing can turn into a big "no" fest
List of "No's" that could be used:
Obi-Wan's no from TPM
Qui-Gon's no from when Anakin slaughters the sand people
Darth Vader's infamous no (to signify Anakin's fall to the dark side)
and of course a repetitious no from Palpatine.
In the Pulp Fiction Star Wars clip I posted earlier in the thread, Anakin's "Nooo" is dubbed with the guy screaming "Nooo!" after being shot in the shoulder by Samuel L. Jackson. I thought it worked, but maybe not?
It might be funny to dub Ki Adi Mundi with Conehead lines. I had never thought of that before, somehow.
brash_stryker said:
A pretty exciting Facebook update posted by Ady in the early hours today:
Some more good news. The problem with the Han in Carbonite castings has now been resolved, in an even better way.
The guy i had purchased the casting from finally contacted me. It seems that his personal life had interfered with his ability to finish all of the order he had (he had been moving house and had no internet amongst other things) He then said he was sending them out but still nothing arrived. He assured me that he had sent them, but city link had lost them in the system. So he sent out another set of castings last week. Well i did get them this time, but the box was badly damaged and the castings were smashed to pieces, with some sections completely missing. After informing him that i had run out of time and that i couldn't wait any longer because i needed to finish the HiC and get it filmed ASAP, he told me that he had no casting material left. But he decided that, because i had been messed about so much, that he would send me something other than just the castings of the legs and hands........
And this is what i got in the post yesterday
Wow, how generous!
I'm pumped that ESB:R is getting close to it's release finally!
RicOlie_2 said:
I think if someone does this, it should be either Hayden or David Prowse.
It should be James Earl Jones.
.Mac. said:
5. Vaders Light sabre striking the floor when he swings and misses Luke in carbon freezing chamber
There's already a sound. The question is if it needs to be changed or if it stays the same. I'm fine either way if Ady wants to edit this sound or not. For sure though, seeing some sparks, or at least a little flash, would be good..
I made a mockup and posted it at two different points of time in this thread. Once again, here is a link, just to see how it could be.
Darth Stewie said:
Yeah I saw the above post on facebook. You asked for no threats of physical violence... does a force choke count? I mean, that's not really touching the guy ;-)
Anyway, I was looking through some old clips and saw something that I can't recall ever being addressed...
When Capt. Needa is choked out and falls to his knees, the metal grating that his knees hit 'buckle' as he lands, indicating that the grate is not actually a hard metal surface. It's still in the clip that you posted so has or will that be changed?
I've always been bothered by that because not only does it take away how hard he seems to hit the ground but also it doesn't seem to match the low 'thud' sound effect.
I seem to recall that Ady addressed this once, but maybe my mind is making that up.
fgqb#19nyj said:
For one thing, he's not doing this just for himself. He's doing it for all to enjoy. Hence the reason why he's taken in fan input and instilling it into his edits. Nobody would go through all this trouble if they weren't. The Revisits are well known across the net and this will be his legacy when it is all said and done.
I for one, am grateful that he is generous enough to share his work with all of us. I often wonder how many personal edits of various films exist out there that are not being shared. Hell, even I'm guilty of making a few edits without putting them out there for anyone to see.
Revisited is definitely something worth appreciating on a wider scale though.
The line "you don't believe in the force, do you?" could be repeated to various force users through the trilogy, such as Obi Wan, Yoda, Darth Vader, and the Emperor.
Some examples:
Obi Wan and Luke
"Stay with the droids, they must be delivered safely to Alderaan..."
"You don't believe in the force, do you?"
Yoda and Luke:
"That is why you fail."
"You don't believe in the force, do you?"
Darth Vader and Luke:
"But you're not a Jedi yet...."
"You don't believe in the force, do you?"
The Emperor and Luke:
"Now... you will die."
(as the Emperor smiles) "You don't believe in the force, do you?"
SilverWook said:
When Obi Wan configures the secret transmitter thingy to warn any surviving Jedi to stay the heck away from Coruscant...
Song that is the lure:(Because I can't think of another song that has "come back" in the lyrics right now.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYsKDaQIX54
Song that is the warning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7mIvO1uHo
Or just a loop of Monty Python's "run away!"?
I have an alternate idea that goes along with this particular scene, using audio from Mars Attacks.
Ronster said:
Ok back to empire strikes back...
In the asteroid chase the tie fighters stop firing at the falcon for quite a long part of the chase is there any plans to keep the tie fighters shooting and chasing for the duration and not just chasing? They only start shooting towrds the end of the chase again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTp8mKFxmbg
Also on scenes of the falcon manouvreing laser hits or misses on these scenes?
Perhaps some cockpit shield hit flashes also?
It as if the pursuing tie fighters are forgotten about to introduce the asteroid field and not they are being chased by tie fighters into the asteroid field.
I think it would add more continuity to the chase.
Ady at one point had added lasers to the TIEs, but for reasons I don't recall, removed them and had the scene go back to how it's always been. I assume that it's more realistic to have the TIE pilots more focused on steering to avoid the asteroids rather than use Jedi-like multitasking skills to fire lasers while dodging big space rocks.
If this idea already popped up elsewhere, then all apologies. But how about this song playing as Admiral Ackbar and the Mon Calamari's theme music?
Bingowings said:
The excuse Lucas gives for Hayden being the Force ghost is Anakin died when he became Vader which is silly because we see Anakin chat to Luke before he died but...he doesn't wear those robes when he died.
Maybe Bob or someone could make a Force ghost with Seb Shaw looking the way he did when Anakin died (wearing the Vader suit and covered in scars but smiling).
That would be ridiculous.
I did this mockup a long while back.
.Mac. said:
oh_riginal said:
cause I've come to trust Ady to know what's best 99.9% of the time.
And at this point, being so close to finally seeing ESB:R's release, all I'm worried about is the audio side of things, of which there is little to worry about.
Dido.
About the audio, the only thing I'm curious about is how are the sound effects for lightsabers going to be handled in ESB:R, or for that matter, the entire saga.
I'm wondering if they're all going to sound alike for consistency (hums, clashes, striking metal, etc.), sounding like either the OT, PT, or a healthy mixture of both? Or should they all be left alone so that they'll each have their own idiosyncratic sounds?
This is something I've been curious about as well. ESB is what I grew up watching first before I even knew there was ANH or ROTJ, so I've been conditioned, in a sense, to measure all lightsaber sound quality to how it sounds in this film. In ANH, to me, the lightsabers don't seem to clash as hard, and seem like they brush more, and have less "oomph".
In ROTJ, it seems like there is slightly less bass in the clashes, but it still sounds consistent enough with ESB that it never bothered me TOO much.
The PT is inconsistent as well, as I feel the bass sound of clashes in TPM is almost overwhelming at times compared to the OT. Don't get me wrong, it sounds awesome to me, but just inconsistent in the saga overall. AOTC is about even with TPM in this regard.
ROTS seemed to remove all bass in the lightsaber duels altogether, compared to the rest of the PT, and is somewhat consistent with ROTJ and ANH.
This is all based on my own surround system experience, and I realize it may be different for everyone.
emanswfan said:
adywan said:
We don't need to be spoon fed every little bit of information or have everything explained. the audience is more intelligent than that. Biggest problem with the prequels is the over explanation of everything. This kind of film making just talks down to the audience. Have people become so brain dead in the video game age that they have to have everything explained on screen?
This is the reason why PT:R will be so amazing and why existing PT edits have failed to reach anywhere close to the quality of the originals.
Also, anytime Adywan has to post on here to fix something, all it's doing is taking away time he is spending on Revisited.
+1
Thank you. We have a fan editor with a strong eye for detail and film logic working on this edit of his own free will, for us all to enjoy. Sure, some of us find things Ady may not have noticed now and then, but most of the time when we bring something up, he comes in here and posts that he fixed it quite a while ago already. I guess that's why I rarely even suggest ideas in here anymore, cause I've come to trust Ady to know what's best 99.9% of the time.
And at this point, being so close to finally seeing ESB:R's release, all I'm worried about is the audio side of things, of which there is little to worry about.
I will choose to believe, as I always have, that Boba Fett simply followed the Falcon out of the garbage trail, then SOMEHOW, in no over-explanation, was able to figure out that Han Solo would be going to Cloud City, and informed Vader ahead of time.
All offscreen details mean absolutely nothing, as we have all enjoyed the story without worrying about it before, so why start now?
Ronster said:
There is nothing that suggests he does not detect them considering the first in cockpit shot we see is Han having a Radio conversation with one of the cloud car pilots I'd say he has detected them alright.
This is another example of a scene starting in the middle of a conversation that started offscreen, which somehow always makes the talk seem more "real" to me, though I wouldn't know how to explain why.
That was why my only beef with ANH:R was the rearrangement of the Obi Wan hut scene, as putting it in the original script form made it feel more staged and expositional than it felt in the official edit. But that's off topic. The cloud car chat has no other way to be edited. So yeah, no possible way to make it seem that the Falcon was unable to detect the cloud car.
