oh_riginal

.Mac. said:

oh_riginal said:

cause I've come to trust Ady to know what's best 99.9% of the time.

And at this point, being so close to finally seeing ESB:R's release, all I'm worried about is the audio side of things, of which there is little to worry about.

Dido.

 

About the audio, the only thing I'm curious about is how are the sound effects for lightsabers going to be handled in ESB:R, or for that matter, the entire saga.

I'm wondering if they're all going to sound alike for consistency (hums, clashes, striking metal, etc.), sounding like either the OT, PT, or a healthy mixture of both? Or should they all be left alone so that they'll each have their own idiosyncratic sounds?

This is something I've been curious about as well. ESB is what I grew up watching first before I even knew there was ANH or ROTJ, so I've been conditioned, in a sense, to measure all lightsaber sound quality to how it sounds in this film. In ANH, to me, the lightsabers don't seem to clash as hard, and seem like they brush more, and have less "oomph".

In ROTJ, it seems like there is slightly less bass in the clashes, but it still sounds consistent enough with ESB that it never bothered me TOO much.

The PT is inconsistent as well, as I feel the bass sound of clashes in TPM is almost overwhelming at times compared to the OT. Don't get me wrong, it sounds awesome to me, but just inconsistent in the saga overall. AOTC is about even with TPM in this regard.

ROTS seemed to remove all bass in the lightsaber duels altogether, compared to the rest of the PT, and is somewhat consistent with ROTJ and ANH.

This is all based on my own surround system experience, and I realize it may be different for everyone.

emanswfan said:

adywan said:

We don't need to be spoon fed every little bit of information or have everything explained. the audience is more intelligent than that. Biggest problem with the prequels is the over explanation of everything. This kind of film making just talks down to the audience. Have people become so brain dead in the video game age that they have to have everything explained on screen?

This is the reason why PT:R will be so amazing and why existing PT edits have failed to reach anywhere close to the quality of the originals.

Also, anytime Adywan has to post on here to fix something, all it's doing is taking away time he is spending on Revisited.

+1

Thank you. We have a fan editor with a strong eye for detail and film logic working on this edit of his own free will, for us all to enjoy. Sure, some of us find things Ady may not have noticed now and then, but most of the time when we bring something up, he comes in here and posts that he fixed it quite a while ago already. I guess that's why I rarely even suggest ideas in here anymore, cause I've come to trust Ady to know what's best 99.9% of the time.

And at this point, being so close to finally seeing ESB:R's release, all I'm worried about is the audio side of things, of which there is little to worry about.

I will choose to believe, as I always have, that Boba Fett simply followed the Falcon out of the garbage trail, then SOMEHOW, in no over-explanation, was able to figure out that Han Solo would be going to Cloud City, and informed Vader ahead of time.

All offscreen details mean absolutely nothing, as we have all enjoyed the story without worrying about it before, so why start now?

Ronster said:

There is nothing that suggests he does not detect them considering the first in cockpit shot we see is Han having a Radio conversation with one of the cloud car pilots I'd say he has detected them alright.

This is another example of a scene starting in the middle of a conversation that started offscreen, which somehow always makes the talk seem more "real" to me, though I wouldn't know how to explain why.

That was why my only beef with ANH:R was the rearrangement of the Obi Wan hut scene, as putting it in the original script form made it feel more staged and expositional than it felt in the official edit. But that's off topic. The cloud car chat has no other way to be edited. So yeah, no possible way to make it seem that the Falcon was unable to detect the cloud car.

As Luke flies the trench, he could hear Obi Wan say "You can't win... let go, Luke! Luke, trust me..."

So Lukes decision to turn off the targeting computer has a very different meaning. Luke could even bail instead of Wedge, and Wedge is the one who saves the day. 

SpilkaBilka said:

Take Ben's "Oh, don't worry, he'll be all right," and have it play over the shot of the severed arm on the floor of the cantina.

In the Falcon cockpit, when Luke, Ben, and Han are discussing what happened to Alderaan, add Luke's line, "It looks like sand people did this, all right. Look, there's gaffi sticks, bantha tracks. It's just… I've never heard of them hitting anything this big before."

I like both of these ideas.

Luke could always assume that Yoda is his sister, if the idea about Luke thinking he still hasn't met Yoda is used. But if so, I'd like it if Obi Wan shoots down Luke's assumption so that the joke can continue till he meets the Emperor and assumes he is Yoda, and possibly when Vader's mask is removed.

DF Shadow said:

Or Jar Jars'.......accompanied by a Krusty laugh.

Or John Candy again, same shot from my Tauntaun mockup.

Darth Lucas said:

And when he cuts off vaders head in the cave, it's Kermit's face instead of his. 

Or James Earl Jones.

RicOlie_2 said:

I suggested earlier that Obi-Wan not fight with Vader at all and get left behind on the Death Star still pulling levers. Or he could fight Vader after being left behind, give up, and go back to pulling levers.

In the middle of the shot where the Falcon is reversing out of the docking bay, Obi Wan could unknowingly turn the tractor beam on and off again, causing the Falcon to be pulled back in partially before finally escaping.

DominicCobb said:

TV's Frink said:

oh_riginal said:

I did a video on youtube a while back that had Michael Scott from The Office on the rebellion's comlink.

http://youtu.be/T_U0sm2FELo

Not sure if it would fit with your edit, but feel free to use any ideas from it if you want.

Fantastic!  My favorite bit was Leia's "shut up!"

You could take this further/have it make more sense by dubbing the guy who briefs the fighters with Michael Scott. Before the meeting starts you could have over the loud speaker "everybody conference room, five minutes." 

That IS pretty good! If all the same dialogue is to be used, then Dwight could possibly be used as well for the conference meeting announcement, since he had one line in my video.

DominicCobb said:

Revenge of the Sith. It would explain why Palps knows everything.

This would be funny if Palpatine and Anakin were watching ROTS at the opera house, and just after he watches the scene where Mace Windu and Ki Adi Mundi talk about sensing a plot to destroy the Jedi, he says the line "the Jedi are planning to overthrow me."

To make it extra meta, the hologram Mace and Ki Adi are standing at could be showing Palpatine saying "once more the Sith will rule the galaxy!" to which Mace states "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi."

SilverWook said:

If it hasn't been suggested already, this must happen! ;)

Does anyone know who actually created this?

That shouldn't be too hard to recreate.

The "expensive looking explosion" from The Muppets movie?

Another potential Wedge repeated line: "That got em!"

doubleofive said:

 

oh_riginal said:

Wedge could keep asking about the tower throughtout the Death Star battle, even as he is forced to flee and then after the Death Star has exploded.

"Great shot, kid, that was one in a million!"

"BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT TOWER?"

 

Just what I was thinking after my post! Of course Wedge could carry this throughout the trilogy...

"That armor's too strong for blasters."

"But what about that tower?"

or

"Hobby, I've been hit!"

"But what about that tower?" (as Luke's speeder crashes)

and

"Go for the power regulator on the north tower."

"But what about... right with ya, boss!"

Wedge could keep asking about the tower throughtout the Death Star battle, even as he is forced to flee and then after the Death Star has exploded.

Darth Lucas said:

When Luke reaches for the control board "What's that flashing?" and Han slaps him.  That should happen numerous times throughout the film.

But "flashing" could be replaced with a different object.

Example: "What's that small moon?"

Another idea, when the officer tries to talk to TK-421, then looks out the window to see Luke (in disguise as a Stormtrooper) he could reply "I can't see a thing in this helmet" as he taps his helmet, or he could say "Huh? Oh the uniform..."

The asteroid chase could temporarily have the score replaced with "Holiday Road" from the Vacation movies.

Bingowings said:

I have to say the scaling seems to be a good idea (very subtle... maybe it could go a little further?) which makes as much sense as the shirt but it's your call.

This^

+1

TV's Frink said:

SilverWook said:

Anakin taking out the shields causes a little collateral damage? ;)

http://youtu.be/N5BONJcookQ?t=2m51s

Been thinking about this a little bit, and it might be fun to include several different things being destroyed ranging from space battle footage to random other things being destroyed.  Went through my collection and came up with a few ideas:

Akira
Blues Brothers
District 9
Futurama
Ghostbusters
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Life of Brian
Mr. Show (the blow up the moon sketch)
Prometheus
Speed Racer
Star Trek 09
The Tick (chairface moon episode)
Waterworld

Other ideas welcome.

The rear half of Grievous's ship that falls in orbit could turn out to be what crushes Charlize Theron in Prometheus.

As I tried to post before but in the wrong thread...

Possible lines:

Obi Wan: "I haven't gone by the name Obi Wan since I betrayed and murdered your father."

Luke: "You know him?"

Obi Wan: "Well of course I know him!"

doubleofive said:

Wrong thread? I think you're looking for A New Ridiculousness.

I will take this opportunity to say that the Ever-Echoing NOOOO! should be done at every major one in the saga.

DOH! That's what I get for skipping coffee...

Possible line: "I haven't gone by the name Obi Wan since I betrayed and murdered your father."

If the Spock cameo tradition continues, then Spock in the ice cave from the 2009 film could be intercut with Luke hanging upside down. He could be observing Luke but not bothering to lend a hand.