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#243524
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243524/action/topic#243524
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So I left this forum a while back and it's hard for me to read and participate in Star Wars fandom these days. There's no respect for the fans who have given so much respect to the franchise.

Anyway.

I thought I'd post today just for novelty's sake, being that it's September 12th and all. Day after September 11th, and not much fun on either day.

Incidentally I'm no immediate relation to Todd Gilchrist who's been writing Star Wars articles for IGN ... that I'm aware of.

This is why I'm posting.

All the torrents for the Classic Editions have been pulled from Myspleen by the management. Presumably because of Lucasfilm's release.

Very sad.

I intended the Classic Editions to be the best original Star Wars DVDs you could get, with the best picture quality and the best features ...... and I still think they are that, particularly Empire and Jedi, where I had improved the technical process greatly.

You can still get them from me by writing *****.

For the moment the Star Wars torrent still seems to be working. Deleted Magic is also still working, as are Return of the Ewok and Special Edition Hype.


I would really appreciate it if someone would put the Classic Edition edition DVDs onto Demonoid.com.

My Thief and the Cobbler Recobbled Cut DVD is there, and I also put my Doctor Who Ten Doctors Mini-DVD there. I would like to continue the trend of seeding at Demonoid.

My best wishes to you and yours during a weak time for Star Wars fandom.

Bye again.
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#243523
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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243523/action/topic#243523
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So I left this forum a while back and it's hard for me to read and participate in Star Wars fandom these days. There's no respect for the fans who have given so much respect to the franchise.

Anyway.

I thought I'd post today just for novelty's sake, being that it's September 12th and all. Day after September 11th, and not much fun on either day.

Incidentally I'm no immediate relation to Todd Gilchrist who's been writing Star Wars articles for IGN ... that I'm aware of.

This is why I'm posting.

All the torrents for the Classic Editions have been pulled from Myspleen by the management. Presumably because of Lucasfilm's release.

Very sad.

I intended the Classic Editions to be the best original Star Wars DVDs you could get, with the best picture quality and the best features ...... and I still think they are that, particularly Empire and Jedi, where I had improved the technical process greatly.

You can still get them from me by writing *****.

For the moment the Star Wars torrent still seems to be working. Deleted Magic is also still working, as are Return of the Ewok and Special Edition Hype.


I would really appreciate it if someone would put the Classic Edition edition DVDs onto Demonoid.com.

My Thief and the Cobbler Recobbled Cut DVD is there, and I also put my Doctor Who Ten Doctors Mini-DVD there. I would like to continue the trend of seeding at Demonoid.

My best wishes to you and yours during a weak time for Star Wars fandom.

Bye again.
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#243522
Topic
Star Wars: Classic Edition by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243522/action/topic#243522
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So I left this forum a while back for several reasons but mainly because I couldn't stand Star Wars fandom anymore - for me it's turned into the cultural equivalent of being a Jew posting happily on message boards about Hitler. There's no respect for the fans who have given so much respect to the franchise.

Anyway.

I thought I'd post today just for novelty's sake, being that it's September 12th and all. Day after September 11th, and not much fun on either day.

Incidentally I'm no immediate relation to Todd Gilchrist who's been writing Star Wars articles for IGN ... that I'm aware of.

This is why I'm posting.

All the torrents for the Classic Editions have been pulled from Myspleen by the management. Presumably because of Lucasfilm's release.

Very sad.

I intended the Classic Editions to be the best original Star Wars DVDs you could get, with the best picture quality and the best features ...... and I still think they are that, particularly Empire and Jedi, where I had improved the technical process greatly.

You can still get them from me by writing *****.

For the moment the Star Wars torrent still seems to be working. Deleted Magic is also still working, as are Return of the Ewok and Special Edition Hype.


I would really appreciate it if someone would put the Classic Edition edition DVDs onto Demonoid.com.

My Thief and the Cobbler Recobbled Cut DVD is there, and I also put my Doctor Who Ten Doctors Mini-DVD there. I would like to continue the trend of seeding at Demonoid.

My best wishes to you and yours during a dark time for Star Wars fandom.

Bye again.
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#243269
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243269/action/topic#243269
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Price came back to rerecord.

In the 1972 documentaries, Richard refers to Vincent Price playing Anwar. And he was still called Anwar at that point. By 1972, Anwar had already been redesigned to look more like Price ... he would get further redesigns later, his design finally being nailed down in the "cards" shot.

I'm not sure about Art Babbit's work on the character, which seems out of place in any era. That could just be due to Babbit's style rather than anything else.

The 1974 date is a possibility.
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#243121
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243121/action/topic#243121
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The people who edit Wikipedia articles have a special circle in hell reserved for them.



Sean Connery has always been credited as Tack in official literature, as early as the 60s I believe.

Animator Andreas Wessel-Therhorn floated the idea that maybe Connery was never actually recorded, but that the voice was just intended to be Connery upon completion.

I can't be sure either way, but I like to believe that Connery recorded his one line very early on.



Ed E. Carroll is credited as The Thief in Fred Calvert's version, in which some annoying gasping and yelping from The Thief is clearly audible. Someone pointed out that similar vocal effects are in the workprint, but much softer in the mix. I was convinced, with some prodding, to include Carroll in the credits for the workprint version.

I'm not sure about his actual presence in the workprint, as Thief vocals could have been done by anyone at any time.

I will say that due to the Recobbled Cut mixing different audio sources, you do hear Carroll there.
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#242426
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242426/action/topic#242426
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The problem here being that it was sent to the publisher Faber & Faber as "fan mail" rather than to Richard himself .... as certain people who knew Richard were uneasy about giving it to him directly. That was all I could do. Didn't work.

Still, I got my answer from Richard ... I guess.


Here's a speed run on the Roger Rabbit NES game. Wow, this game actually did suck, didn't it ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypExqKPAYAk
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#242424
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242424/action/topic#242424
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Well, you're doing better than me, I don't have Mo Sutton's email address! =) (Would like it if you could provide.)

Much of Richard's early work is hard to come by - and I haven't come by it.



I'm not in contact with Richard and Mo at the moment and I'm told they didn't get my letter/package either ... which is sad as I'd included some nice drawings and things.




Hm.
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#242360
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242360/action/topic#242360
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That would be nice, and certainly there are people at Disney who would probably be interested in it, but it's very unlikely to happen.

You say casually that it would take "only" ten million dollars. I think it could be done for much much less than that, but either way, that's a huge investment that Disney would only make expecting to make that money back, and that's very unlikely to happen.

The biggest problem is that as far as I can tell this isn't something Richard Williams would be interested in. According to Mo, Richard's position on this movie is to treat it like he died after making it .... just leave him out of it.

Would you want this film completed without Richard's supervision? I suppose pencils could be inked and made all pretty, but the whole thing would be a bit of a stretch.

They were able to finish the Donner cut without Donner's supervision and get his approval. But that's live action, which Donner had mostly already shot.

It's a lovely idea to finish the film, and I think that the people you mentioned would be more than capable of doing so - roughly the whole 1990 crew is still alive and working.

But that's not the drive of this thread for me. We wouldn't put an ad in Variety because that's not only incredibly expensive, but also confrontational.

I advise caution. We're treading in difficult waters here, and this project has gotten interest because it's grown slowly and steadily.

You have to learn to crawl before you learn to walk.


Or, to put it clearly, someone would first have to agree to release Richard's cut of the film on DVD in an unfinished state before anyone would agree to spend money finishing it.

The second option, of finishing the film, is a difficult and unlikely situation.

The first option, of just releasing it as intended, in unfinished state a la the Recobbled Cut, is not quite so crazy. That won't be happening tomorrow, but I can imagine it happening someday. Perhaps even someday soon.

Gilliam put that ad in Variety because he wanted to shame and insult the studio who had ruined his film.

I don't want to shame or insult Disney. I have a great deal of respect for the people currently running it, and so do you.

For me this project is not an insult or an attack or a call to arms. It's a statement.

"Hey, that Thief and the Cobbler movie. Someone should put that out on DVD."


Once that happens, once the general public is prepared to see and appreciate this film, and maybe Richard might even be willing to discuss it again, maybe then, in some future, the finishing could take place.
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#242125
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242125/action/topic#242125
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No, they're all actually more offensive than "Beem Bom."


>> One idea... what if we started a fundraiser to get an ad placed in Variety calling for a reconstruction? Maybe there's some director or producer out there who can help get the balls rolling.


No, not the right approach.



To tell the truth, I think that as far as doing what needs to be done to get the word out and get Disney more interested in a reconstruction, this project is accomplishing that already.
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#242062
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242062/action/topic#242062
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>>Anyway... 5 days until the 1st DVD release. I might pick it up if I see it sold somewhere cheap, just out of curiosity (and because that brigands song actually sounded catchy). But mainly I'm still waiting for Garrett's DVDs to arrive.

And I'm waiting for my new DVD burner to arrive, been waiting for a week now. Grrr. My old burner burned out - the fourth I've gone through in less than 2 years. I go through about a burner every 4 months. Which is pretty costly too.

My apologies if yours is one I didn't send yet. (I don't know your real name, Esn.)

>>By the way, Garrett, have you had a lot of international orders?

Oh yes, always. That's where a good chunk of the costs of doing something like this comes from, as I have to satisfy, say, crewmembers in England who deserve and get the whole 17-disc set for free. Gets kinda costly with shipping.

Right now I need my burner so I can help out an English crew doing a Monty Python doc.



Lemme know how the new DVD is. I'll probably get a copy at some point.
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#242003
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242003/action/topic#242003
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>> So, between the new Star Wars DVDs and this, how does it feel to have a one-person operation outdoing major studios?

Frustrating really. My Star Wars DVDs - I look at that whole thing now with genuine hatred. George has abandoned his fans, and is essentially giving them the finger and telling them they're idiots and deserve nothing, then telling them to buy his new video games.

I can't deal with Star Wars fandom anymore, a few seconds of it makes me puke.

The thing with the Thief is very frustrating, but as you say ...

>> Disney could very well actually be able to restore and complete the film, true to Williams's vision. Simply put, the right people are in control now, and the people who were in control then aren't there anymore.

Exactly.

There are certain people high up at Disney who have been very nice, who respect The Thief and might do something with it .... someday.

It's not the Weinstein's fault specifically - yes, Miramax was responsible for the mutilation of so many foreign films, and that's the culture which allowed the recutting of Fred Calvert's cut to happen. But the orders for WHAT to do with Arabian Knight, I would say those orders came from somewhere else, specifically the management at Disney at the time.

Anyway. Times change. So many years have passed that certain people aren't as worried that if this film "gets out", people will hate Aladdin for a certain reason.

Anyway anyway.
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#241740
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241740/action/topic#241740
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Matt Richardson from Poptique.com has just sent me a pretty decent DVD version of I Drew Roger Rabbit - best I've had so far. It's not amazing DVD quality like the versions of The Thief Who Never Gave Up I had, but it is from a 1st generation old PAL VHS tape. The quality won't impress anyone, but it is the best I've had.


Ben - TequilaMockingbird - has emailed me his regrets about not getting the high quality Thief, Howard the Duck and Extended Muppet Movie material to me over these past 4 months. He's been busy and doesn't have a DVD-R recorder - just DVD-RAM, which he worries won't be compatible.


My Richard/Thief collection is now at Disney, and being enjoyed.


Completely unrelated - did a bit of stand-up comedy at the Laugh Factory in Hollywood yesterday. Went pretty well.