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#252755
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[<( The Star Wars TV Commercials Project )>] (* unfinished project * - a host of info)
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>>Have you thought to try and track down any TV promos for the Holiday Special? I'm sure there were some. Those would be a hoot to see after all these years.
>> SKOT: You can bet I've thought about that many times... I'm sure there had to be some as well, and chances are I may have even seen one on TV back in the day. But unfortunately, I've never in all these years found any further evidence of one.


Late reply.

I showed Skot this months ago, but a TV ad for the Holiday Special definitely turned up on Youtube. It advertised the special, as well as a show called Flying High.


Weirdly, now that I've posted this, I can't find the damn thing. Doesn't show up in a search for the Star Wars Holiday Special.


EDIT: Yep. Thank you Google caching. "This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner CBS Corporation because its content was used without permission"

2241 views before it was taken down.

The video was posted by user 8traxrule. You can PM him over at youtube.

He wrote: "Found this on a tape of the "Hawaii Five-O" that aired the night before (11/16/78). Wish I could find a copy of the special that looks this good. Did anyone tape the "Flying High" show that came on afterwards? ..."
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#252617
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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>> How could they have cut Vincent Price rhyming?

Because otherwise the movie would be an hour longer .... =) He still speaks in rhyme for the most part.



Okay, there are currently no bids on the script and 8 days left. When somebody DOES bid, please no one else bid. We don't want the price of this script skyrocketing and whoever bids is probably one of us. You can PM him with Ebay and make sure he is one of us.


This probably won't be necessary, but if need be, one way of getting the script into our hands would be to have several of us chip in. 10 people chipping in $10 would get the script nicely. I normally send 1 DVD via mail for about that much, so for each person who asked me for a Richard Williams related DVD within the next week, I could put that money toward the script.

If necessary. I'm sure that on the last day it's available someone's going to buy it. Really hope it's one of us, who would at least lend it to me to scan.
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#252547
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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The animation of this alternate version of the Zigzag scene - a stick figure effort by Art Babbit - appears on the hourlong reel of pencil tests I have. So it's very cool to know what he's supposed to be saying.

Mind you, marrying both princesses? It's a good thing Meemee was dropped from the film, that's just dead weight.


What I like about reading the scripts for Zigzag is that all his dialogue was written in rhyme, but many of the rhyming lines were cut out in the movie, so you get a familiar line, but also a line that rhymes with it that was originally going to be there ...
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#252435
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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Wow. And you all beat me to it, posting about it.


Someone buy this, please. I have 9 cents to my name right now and can't afford it.



This will be an amazing read. I can certainly scan it as I did the Nasruddin script. I can pay you back in free DVDs. =)

Even the tiny scans posted here have some good information in them ... check the cast list. Sean Connery is listed as Tack, but with a question mark, suggesting that at this point (in the 1980s I believe), Connery's voice hadn't been recorded. Many people believe that Connery's voice was never recorded for the film (an impersonator being used as a temp until Connery would record his line), but he was always intended to play Tack.

Also no one is credited as The Thief .... sometimes thought to be played by Ed E. Carroll.



And Spock, if you're interested in any of the many many Richard Williams discs I've collected, just email me - tygerbug at yahoo.com.
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#252332
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Cleaning Up White Noise On Audio
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I noise reduce my films a lot. I use Noise Reduction in Audacity (Mac) or Cooledit (Win), at the lowest setting, and create a new noise-reduced WAV. Sometimes I noise reduce twice and save it again also. The result tends to sound very electronic. However it will sound better when you mix your one or two noise reduced tracks together (in Premiere or FCP) with the original not noise-reduced WAV (added in at a lower volume of your choosing). Also, on the noise reduced version you can lower the volume to nothing on very quiet parts of the audio, which tend to sound more electronic than when people are talking loudly.

The results of this in my movie Gods of Los Angeles were quite good overall.
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#252203
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Anyone Hi8 Experts
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What you want to do is buy a better digital8 camcorder like the Sony TRV-330. It's a dead format but Ebay is your friend. Won't cost that much. The better Sony digital8s could play hi8 and 8mm, converting to digital on the fly.

You can then capture the video to your computer in DV format using firewire.


Really, any means of capturing hi8 video is fine since the video itself isn't super clear. It's better than VHS though.


The firewire connection on my digital8 camcorder has recently given out. I don't know what to do, as I used it all the time (8mm tape being cheaper than DV). Have to get a new digital8 I guess. If anyone has one they're not using ... =)
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#252122
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The Muppet Movie Extended Edition (Released)
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I'm afraid Ben has given his apologies and I'm not expecting any progress anytime soon on this or his Howard the Duck (although others have Howard in widescreen now), or his Thief and the Cobbler material.

He might help out sometime though.

If anyone else has a copy of this extended cut, please speak up.


There was no Muppet Movie behind the scenes on that one episode of The Jim Henson Hour.
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#251698
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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It really has been a while since I finished my Thief edit, hasn't it - because I no longer know what shots you're talking about. =)

I was pretty good in general about changing the guards to darken them up - considering it was something I did for the heck of it at the last minute. Some shots were difficult to change - lightening Tack's face would have taken some effort. The storyboards clarify that Tack's face is indeed still white at this point.

Blah blah.

My memory fails me. I should mention that I emailed Mo Sutton (and therefore Richard) not long ago. I don't know if I'm expecting a response or not.


John Paul Cassidy posts this review of the Recobbled Cut at his livejournal. I recommend clicking to see it in Livejournal form, but I'll also reproduce the text below.


John Paul wonders aloud here whether Tack might have inspired Tim Burton. I doubt it. It's even possible, considering how late in the game his final design was developed - that Tack might have been inspired by Burton's early work. More likely Tack is just a natural extrapolation of the unusual style the film already had ...

http://ryuuseipro.livejournal.com/121067.html


[ mood | enthralled ]
[ music | "Scheherazade" - Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov ]

On the evening of June 27th, I finally saw Richard Williams' The Thief and the Cobbler, restored by Garrett Gilchrist, and have been gathering energy to write this review, as this film may very well be one of my all-time favorite animated films (right up there with The Incredibles and others), and just plain inspiring! I've been watching it quite often, and I think that Garrett's version, as well as Dick's original workprint (which I've also seen recently), is the version of this film that must be seen, period.

First off, I had been aware of this film since 1995, when it was released here by Miramax as Arabian Knight (but I'll bet into that more in a bit). I saw the commercials on TV and much of the animation looked incredible. But, of course, they marketed it as a cynical Aladdin ripoff, and just had to see what the critics were saying. At least two of them said something like "This film is a butchered version of Richard Williams' ill-fated animated feature, The Thief and the Cobbler" and so on. So I was stunned by this, and swore off seeing any of the bastardized versions until I could find the "real" version. I heard often of a workprint which was floating around, with lots of completed animation, and with pencil tests & storyboards and stuff. But even better, in mid-June this year, comic-book writer James D. Hudnall posted on his blog a link to the trailer of a "restored" version! I was really, really excited! Upon watching the trailer, the animation was heartbreakingly beautiful and absolutely mind-blowing. And shortly after, I read Amid Amidi's interview with Garrett on Cartoon Brew! After this, I immediately sought and finally watched the DVD of the restoration (more on that later), and it was worth the download! I became addicted to this film, and watched it many times since.

This film has had a very intriguing and sad history behind it:
It began production in 1968 as The Majestic Fool and then, The Amazing Nasruddin, as a co-production between Richard Williams and Omar Shah (the late brother of the equally late Idries Shah, who wrote books on Nasruddin, which Dick illustrated for). I read the script for it, and thought it was really strange, but it's probably better to have seen it than just to read about it (much like the books Dick and Shah worked on; Those were fun). Given a lot of publicity, the production even got praise by Woody Allen! But in 1972, Dick had a falling out with the Shah family and the project was dropped. Williams did keep all of the characters he created for the project, but changed their names, changed the story heavily, and replaced Nasruddin with a lovable cobbler named Tack. Thus, in 1973, The Thief and the Cobbler was born! Williams was gradually making this film well into the late 80s, and also used the project to train younger animators, who would help work on it on their spare time. But in the mid-1980s, this project came to the attention of Steven Spielberg and Robert Zemeckis, who brought in Williams to direct the animation for 1988's Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which became a huge box-office success. And upon the success of the film, Dick got the funding from Warner Brothers to finish The Thief and the Cobbler. Production began in 1990, after Dick storyboarded the film in 2 weeks. But perfectionist that Dick was, the film was taking too long to complete. Dick also did not want to make The Thief and the Cobbler into a "Disney" film (songs and such), the kind of film Warners was expecting (see Brad Bird's The Iron Giant). To add insult to injury, Disney was getting ready to release Aladdin, which, let's face it, blatantly ripped off this film. Not wanting to compete with Disney's Aladdin, Warners dropped the film, and the now-defunct Completion Bond Company (which was attached to the film since 1991) confiscated the film from Dick, and subsequently, closed down his studio.

With Dick out of the picture, the Completion Bond Company hired animator Fred Calvert to not only finish the film, but ruin it as well, by cutting out 40 minutes of the film, changing the story around, adding absolutely bad songs, and having the silent hero Tack as a speaking character. This Power Rangerized version became known as The Princess and the Cobbler, which was released only in Australia and South Africa, and bombed in both. But in 1995, Miramax came along and made it worse. They redid the film as a cynical Aladdin ripoff, dubbed over the characters with celebrity voices, cut out even MORE footage, and had the Thief (the OTHER silent character) as another speaking character! Not only that, but the voiceovers of the Thief and Tack's "narration" just wouldn't shut up for a second! The result was Arabian Knight, which is the current version available on video today (sadly, under the title The Thief and the Cobbler), and it also bombed in theaters here.

Any way you look at it, Richard Williams was devastated by the whole ordeal. So much that he refuses to talk about the film publicly. Now you see why this film has become both a tragedy and a legend in the animation community. He has become an animation messiah of sorts, but that's probably just an exaggeration on my part.

However, considering the huge overhaul at Disney early this year from Pixar, there is hope. Disney has much of the neccesary materials for this film, and Roy E. Disney and producer Don Hahn (both of whom are true fans of Williams' film) have been trying since the last decade to start a restoration project for the film. Garrett Gilchrist's restored version is partly intended to encourage Disney to consider restoring and properly finishing this film. It's in good hands, and with or without Richard Williams, they'll do it justice this time. (Personally, I hope Dick will be able to finish the film.)
My opinion on the film? It's a true masterpiece! All-around spectacular. It's very sad that this film never got finished as Williams intended. But this was a noble masterwork. It's not just an animated film, but a work of art! And that was the intention. The finished animation is absolutely beautiful, colorful and fluid! The "camera" movement (ie. panning up and around 3-dimensional structures) is pure genius. Had this film been finished, it would've been a mind-blowing classic! But its fate is in Disney's hands now, and I look forward to that day. The two "released" versions do it a lot of injustice.

The music varies from classical music (most notably Rimsky-Korsakov's "Scheherazade") to minor synthesizer music, to apparently original music for the film (the composer of which is still unknown). And they're all great, as is the voice acting. Vincent Price is ever charming as the villain Zig Zag, the Grand Vizier. Sir Anthony Quayle is King Nod, and Hilary Pritchard is his daughter, Princess Yum Yum, the film's heroine. Joan Sims is both Yum Yum's Nurse and the Mad Holy Old Witch, a character I thought was funny and enjoyable. There's also Windsor Davies as Chief Roofless, the leader of a band of desert brigands, and Donald Pleasance as Zig Zag's pet vulture Phido (who doesn't speak, but squawks). Paul Matthews voices the Mighty One-Eye, the orc-like leader of the One Eye Army, and one of the scarier villains in animation. And last, but certainly not least, our two silent title heroes: Tack the Cobbler and the nameless Thief. The two characters are basically silent-era characters in a movie with lots of sound. The Thief (the antihero of the picture) steals this film, both figuratively and literally, and is delightfully funny in every scene. Every time I see the Thief's antics, I am reminded of those of Wile E. Coyote (The late Ken Harris did the animation for him, after all), or a comical act in Cirque du Soleil. The Thief is, BTW, a caricature of Richard Williams! Tack is my personal favorite character, and one who has become really popular these days with younger fans! Silent, shy and cute, he is like no other hero in animated films. He looks like a tall, thin Raggedy Andy as though designed by Tim Burton! (I wonder if Tim was influenced by this film!) Way ahead of his time. Tack also has the most development of all the characters in this film, and he changed like a butterfly! Basically, he evolved from Buster Keaton to Sabu! Incidentally, Tack does talk, but at the end of the film, and is voiced by, of all people, Sean Connery!!! Yes, Tack talks like James Bond! Who would've thought such a cute character had such a strong, sexy voice?

My favorite sequences include the MC Escher-inspired chase scene between Tack and the Thief, Zig Zag's grand entrance, his "magic cards" sequence (which Richard Williams considers his "graduation piece"), and the powerfully impressive One Eye War Machine sequence (pretty much all of which was removed in the Miramax version). Should this movie ever be completed, I'll be surprised to see what else will lie in store . . .

As for the released versions, I've only recently scanned through parts of Arabian Knight, and I get the same feeling as I do watching Power Rangers. They take something cool and ruin it, badly. It's appallingly dumbed down, the voice acting was weak, and even MORE footage was cut than in Fred Calvert's Princess and the Cobbler version (which this edit was based on). But then, this is something Miramax (and the Weinsteins) were notorious for (see Doogal). As I understand it, this version makes the Princess version seem relatively more watchable, as bad as that was.

Now, in 2006, we have Garrett Gilchrist's non-profit "Recobbled Cut" of the film, which I mentioned earlier. He did his best to fix a film that was broke, and the result is as noble as the film itself. He took all existing versions, even going as far as to use Fred Calvert footage (and making changes of his own to said footage), and "cobbled" them together into a film that more closely resembles Richard Williams' workprint. This version has become extremely popular on the Internet as of late, so much that the Weinsteins decided to cash in on its popularity by releasing their version on DVD again. (Not that anyone cares . . . )

The plot? I'll let the opening narration of the late Sir Felix Alymer do the talking, and let your imagination take you from there:
It is written among the limitless constellations of the celestial heavens and in the depths of the emerald seas and upon every grain of sand in the vast deserts that the world which we see is an outward and visible dream of an inward and invisible reality.

Once upon a time there was a golden city. In the centre of the golden city atop the tallest minaret were three golden balls. The ancients had prophesied that if the three golden balls were ever taken away harmony would yield to discord and the city would fall to destruction and death.

But . . . the mystics had also foretold . . . that the city might be saved by the simplest soul with the smallest and simplest of things.

In the city there dwelt a lowly shoemaker . . . who was known as Tack the Cobbler. Also in the city . . . existed a Thief . . . who shall be . . . nameless.
In closing, once again, I think that Garrett Gilchrist's "Recobbled Cut," for the time being, is the version that must be seen, along with Richard Williams' workprint (which is usually available in fair-to-poor condition bootlegs). Those who have seen the awful released versions (The Princess and the Cobbler and/or Arabian Knight) should see this new version, because Richard Williams' The Thief and the Cobbler never started out that way. This film, and the people who made it, had much higher aspirations than what was finally realized, by corporations that do not understand or appreciate animation as a medium. This film is a true classic, and one of my favorite animated films of all time.

Now, you can either watch the Calvert/Miramax versions (readily available on DVD) at your own risk, or find the Williams workprint, or go and search for/download the DVD (via Torrent file - Search for: "thief" "recobbled" etc.). OR, you can do yourself a favor and watch the movie right now in 17 parts and low-res quality on YouTube! It's time well worth spending.
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#251264
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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COMPLETELY off topic .... Star Wars related, but I just want to give a shoutout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSzmq0vMWw

Bonnie Rose, who founded Neilinnes.org with Laurie (and some help from me, early on), just had a big 15+ minutes of fame the other night.

Give her a big hand. She won the Colbert Report's Green Screen Challenge, beating out a number of really amazing entries.

Her entry, "Freedom Fighter", was indeed damn good, showing Colbert as a video game character executing a complex series of moves.

They called her up on the show, and showed her entry as well as an entry by "George L," who was there on the show and even did a lightsaber battle with Stephen.

Surreal. I'd been following the competition and had already watched the show and Bonnie's entry before realizing that it was hers and she had won.

I was thinking ... hey, I know a Bonnie R ...

Bonnie writes.

>.WOW!! I just... wow.

Eugh, I don't want to put it on You Tube, they make everything all small and smooshy. I could digitize it and upload it to my file sharing website. I'll try to do that tomorrow.

I had NO IDEA who the "other contestant" was when I was on the phone with Stephen. All I heard was when he was talking to me and showing my video, then it was just silence for five minutes, until he came back saying, "Are you ready Bonnie?" I thought it was seriously another real contestant that I seriously might lose to, so I was genuinely thrilled and surprised when I won. I also didn't know what the "visual approximation" of me was, I could just hear him and hear the audience laughing. (they never even asked for a picture!) So it wasn't until the show came on that I saw it was George Lucas, and that added another layer of surrealness to the whole experience! It was a Star Wars contest, he gets George Lucas to come on and show his own entry probably made by the people who actually work on the Star Wars movies, and the one that wins, mine wasn't about Star Wars at all! I kinda feel bad!

Wow. Wow. WOW!

Bonnie

>>

Thanks everybody! Someone put the whole bit up on You Tube, which is at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSzmq0vMWw

The day after the show, much to my delight, Stephen Colbert called me to thank me personally, since he didn't get to talk to me for real the night before. He's NOTHING like his character. I didn't even recognize his voice at first. He's very softspoken and subdued, and totally nice. And he said George Lucas really liked my video too. HAHAHA!

What a great experience!

Bonnie


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#251263
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Lucas on Colbert
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It was a friend of mine, Bonnie Rose, who won. The whole thing is pretty surreal ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSzmq0vMWw

Give her a big hand. She beat out a number of really amazing entries.

Her entry, "Freedom Fighter", was indeed damn good, showing Colbert as a video game character executing a complex series of moves.

I'd been following the competition and had already watched the show and Bonnie's entry before realizing that it was hers and she had won.

I was thinking ... hey, I know a Bonnie R ...

Bonnie writes.

>.WOW!! I just... wow.

Eugh, I don't want to put it on You Tube, they make everything all small and smooshy. I could digitize it and upload it to my file sharing website. I'll try to do that tomorrow.

I had NO IDEA who the "other contestant" was when I was on the phone with Stephen. All I heard was when he was talking to me and showing my video, then it was just silence for five minutes, until he came back saying, "Are you ready Bonnie?" I thought it was seriously another real contestant that I seriously might lose to, so I was genuinely thrilled and surprised when I won. I also didn't know what the "visual approximation" of me was, I could just hear him and hear the audience laughing. (they never even asked for a picture!) So it wasn't until the show came on that I saw it was George Lucas, and that added another layer of surrealness to the whole experience! It was a Star Wars contest, he gets George Lucas to come on and show his own entry probably made by the people who actually work on the Star Wars movies, and the one that wins, mine wasn't about Star Wars at all! I kinda feel bad!

Wow. Wow. WOW!

Bonnie

>>

Thanks everybody! Someone put the whole bit up on You Tube, which is at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSzmq0vMWw

The day after the show, much to my delight, Stephen Colbert called me to thank me personally, since he didn't get to talk to me for real the night before. He's NOTHING like his character. I didn't even recognize his voice at first. He's very softspoken and subdued, and totally nice. And he said George Lucas really liked my video too. HAHAHA!

What a great experience!

Bonnie


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#250431
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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Ha ha - I hadn't even realized they were on a magic carpet. Terrible.


And yes, Miramax keeps screwing up Tack most of all - I tend to think this is often intentional to Aladdinize him. It's ironic because most of the Deviantart fanart for The Thief is of Tack, drawn by girls. His Raggedy Andy-meets-Tim Burton design has caught on with the Hot Topic crowd. Rock.


To those of you waiting for your orders (and you haven't been waiting long), I currently have 20 cents to my name (and $250 in partly-unpaid rent) so paying for postage was tough last week, but honestly sending out your orders is very high priority and I swear I'll get it out very soon.


Oh, and hey, I'm posting some more of the ever-popular Star Wars Deleted Magic over on Youtube, as well as my own cartoon Dance With Grandpa. Check user tygerbug.
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#250335
Topic
The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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http://orangecow.org/thief/thiefpackaging3.jpg

Here's your first look at the Weinstein's weird attempt to cash in on the buzz about Richard Williams and The Thief (and, yeah, this project).

Even in this small image you can tell that their pop-up castle and characters are way off model, particularly Tack, but it's a cute touch for small children.

Very strange.

Current rumor is that the release might be fullscreen, which would make it no different from the previous (awful) Miramax release, which was notable for really oversaturated, dark and garish colors (which weren't present on the VHS or Japanese release).

I doubt this, and expect the release will at least be widescreen.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/thief-and-the-cobbler.html

Planned for November 21st, this release of the butchered Arabian Knight cut is certainly a shame in every way, but true Richard Williams fans probably won't mind shelling out $20 for this cute and unusual bit of kid-friendly packaging. It's not like many of us haven't bought the butchered cuts of the film several times over already.
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#249603
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Ideas & Info: a general post-Python research topic.....
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I apologize for being hostile. I rolled my eyes at you wanting to openly bootleg the commonly-available Life of Brian, and ditto at you saying you didn't like Fawlty Towers. No reason for me to be hostile though. I take my Python seriously. In a silly way.


Also with all the lesser Python projects mentioned already nobody's mentioned A Fish Called Wanda yet. Always best to jump for the good stuff. Although I suppose it's all a matter of taste.


I hadn't heard of the new cut of Erik the Viking. I don't see it for sale in the U.S. - I'm curious to see it, as the film wasn't very good. Did have Neil Innes music (and cameo) at least.



This shows you how out of touch I am I suppose. I gave up on both Python and Star Wars fandom when they became exasperating to me, due to actions of Eric and George respectively.

(Eric was always my favorite Python, so some of his actions in the past 15 years have been quite disappointing. Although embarrassing an idea as Rutles 2 was, I thought it was funny enough and nice for the outtakes from the real Rutles and enjoyed seeing it on the big screen with Eric there .... sitting in the same row as him ....!)

RUTLAND DELETED SCENES!

The UK Arena cut-down versions of Rutland Weekend Television series 1 were interesting for one reason - they used an alternate previously-unaired "pilot" edit of the first episode with a different host (Timothy Carlton) and some brief extra footage (notably one gynecologist joke). (As it was cut by 6 minutes for its airing, I'm not sure if any other variations existed in the pilot.)

There also exists a longer cut of episode 6 (containing exactly one extra sketch, exactly one minute in length, entitled "In this studio with me") - I don't think this was ever aired anywhere, but it was the version I saw first!

Both of these oddities are, oddly, referred to in obscure little in-jokes in the second series of the show ... presumably for the crew alone to laugh at.

A deleted song from Rutland Weekend series 2, "Elvis and the Disagreeable Backing Singers" turned up in The Innes Book of Records. In 2003 while helping Neil perform the song live, we learned that even that version had been cut down, and there was an unnecessary extra few lines at the end in Neil's full version.



If anyone wants anything related to Python, Rutland, Rutles, Neil Innes or the Bonzo Dog Band, write me at tygerbug at yahoo.com - I keep quite a collection.


The Rutles! If you don't own both albums, buy them now. Neil's best work, and the film is among Eric's best also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RFxencNmZw


Checking Youtube for RUTLAND ... more songs on there than sketches, but hey, why not? Neil!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hU0QZQRTNr0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_eH4HeZrg48
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5sj-bjm48YA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AarhZScyuz0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4fC5B778Oeg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CNn40od7PlQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lplGAiqgPwQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KBK5NyRdWsY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ISCympuFDVU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1vrrVj8LbqI

1948 Show! Pre-Python sketch show featuring some great sketchwriting by Cleese, Chapman, Feldman and Brooke-Taylor.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a0F1ra13VzU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nioWR2qcMNo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nsBoiMv9rvc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GVY8iVAhfuU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8_b6vyaZUns


Not always the best clips from any of these shows, just what I could find on Youtube ...

More Neil Innes from the wonderful 97 Rutles reunion .... which Eric declined to participate in with profanities .... :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlTwXXIj_B4

Bonzos! (as if anyone watched Do Not Adjust Your Set for the pre-Pythons ...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2003zBR7-BI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHhDpIds78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fnrGIFMpcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anmnnZPjrIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omc9lkSjYjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2fXUe-dmy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLdA4zKp-00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHTkb6BUxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riIqZCfhLVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7PEhU0PvVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do0SERv-QFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lFHkvIYR1w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm8F9Q2zU2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85fdtF9yR3k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS_lI-ARK4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz6KHhRGVKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngvxidwyTVM

Typical kids stuff from Do Not Adjust Your Set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwC_YXFCpIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKysX9YMBb0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpx31NNnEEc

Innes Book
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ui0c7FhTes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TDKYH-dJVA
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#249434
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Ideas & Info: a general post-Python research topic.....
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I don't much like posting in your threads, yet you keep baiting me to post.


But I'll reply in general, because maybe there are some big Python fans on these boards.


>>I heard that Rutland Weekend Television doesn't exist anywhere. Can I ask why? Does anyone have them?

Of course Rutland Weekend Television EXISTS.

It hasn't been shown in America, ever, and has never been rerun in its entirety. It is almost never seen, has never been released on VHS.

This is because Eric Idle turned into rather a jerk after 1983, started making a lot of junk and decided that Rutland Weekend Television, which I consider his best work, should not be viewed by anyone. At first it was because no one was offering him enough money for it, then he just decided it shouldn't be seen period.

This may be because he was cheating on and getting divorced from his first wife Lyn Ashley. in a very public way that is obvious watching the episodes.

Recently there has been talk of a DVD anyway.

The best copies of the Rutlands are AVI files somebody smuggled out of the BBC in broadcast quality pretty recently.

Neil Innes' The Innes Book of Records is must-see viewing immediately after you see the Rutlands. Michael Palin, Viv Stanshall and other interesting people appear.

>>Also, I have recently heard that the Out of the Tree Chapman TV show was found. Is that true?

Yes. The quality is unknown. It will be screened at Missing Believed Wiped in Britain this year. A DVD release is unlikely, as with most Missing Believed Wiped stuff. I've read the script and it was damn good, so again, who the hell needs Yellowbeard?

Graham Chapman material is all difficult to release because this idiot named Jim Yoakum thinks he owns it all, and the man is pure evil with the brains of a half-eaten donut.

Where the hell is Jake's Journey, I ask you - never turned up a copy of that myself.



You haven't asked about At Last the 1948 Show, but I'm sure it doesn't compare to masterworks like Splitting Heirs and Yellowbeard and Spamalot and etc.

There are about 10 episodes' worth of 1948 Show sketches still in existence. Only 5 were released on DVD, because the people who released it didn't know anything about what they were releasing.

You want your Marty Feldman fix, watch this, not Yellowbeard. (Feldman fans might want to check out It's Marty! also, which is very 1948 Show ish in nature, albeit with very little Python involvement.)

I have about 3 episodes not on that DVD.


The Do Not Adjust Your Set DVD from the same people was also conspicuously missing any "series 2" material - I have a Christmas special and an episode with Beautiful Zelda in it, not on their release. Perhaps owned by a different company now, as the show switched stations.

Apart from the presence of the Bonzos (who aren't at their best either), Do Not Adjust ... is crap though .... worth watching, but not to the level of 1948 or Rutland. Always felt that, as much as I love 'em, most Palin/Jones stuff that's not Python is rather dull, particularly their early stuff.

To counter this, the Ripping Yarns are nice albeit very laid back, and I love Terry Jones' film of The Wind in the Willows (US title Mr. Toad's Wild Ride).

>>Are there enough features to host a Life of Brian second disk?

Not a good one.

Can we stop this now?

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Insider 90: Spaceballs David Maddox Article
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I know David Maddox as an actor - he starred in a movie of mine, Gods of Los Angeles, as Clifford.

He's also a writer, and his main subjects are Star Trek and Star Wars, occasionally published in the magazines of same. He's got some news this week.


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Issue # 90 of the Star Wars Insider should be on stands and in bookstores today. I have two articles that were published in it. One's just a small piece on a guy who won some of the Star Wars Fan Film Awards (and yes, Robert you got photo credit) this year but the other...

Is a 19th Anniversary article on Mel Brooks' SpaceBalls. I started the piece 3 years ago with a guy named Rich Handley, originally planning on it being a 17th Anniversary piece. We got interviews, pictures and other fun stuff. But due to editor shifts at the mag it got bounced around for a loooong time. Well, it finally sees print this month. I wouldn't dream of asking any of you to buy the thing, but if you find yourself in a bookstore I would appreciate if you could take a look at it (it's only 2500 words). I'm rather proud of this one and I'd apprecaite any feedback anyone feels like giving.

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Best wishes to David Maddox.