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#481517
Topic
The Refer To Yourself In Third Person Campaign (THIS THREAD IS NOT AND NEVER WAS ABOUT THE ROCK)
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Misinterpreting.  TV's Frink thought everyone would express all posts as coming from TV's Frink.

Example: It's TV's Frink's opinion that everyone should pirate the Star Wars blu-ray.  TV's Frink will be happy to mail his blu-ray to everyone who asks so they can make a copy.

When the TV's Frink is away, the TV's Frinks will play.

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#481462
Topic
You're Not A Jedi Campaign - (UK Census)
Time

http://www.yourenotajedi.com/

If your religion is of low enough importance to you to that you are willing to put in a religion from 3 good sci-fi films from years ago, and 3 more recent rubbish ones,please consider ticking "No Religion" instead.

The data gathered is used to inform government policy, and was used by the last government to justify funding of religious community bodies over secular ones. For example, 2001 census data has been used repeatedly to justify an increase in the number of state maintained faith schools and the increasing level of government money spent on faith organisations.

By ticking ‘No Religion’, you will ensure that the Government receives an unambiguous message about the number of non-religious people in the UK. Any other response may be manipulated into a response in favour of religion and publically funded religious organisations.

For more information and further reasons to tick ‘No Religion’, visit The Census Campaign website. http://census-campaign.org.uk/

If you don't have an active faith, please make sure the government knows, You are our only hope

http://www.yourenotajedi.com/

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#481442
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Back from NYC
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TV's Frink wrote:  Wait...is that Snoop?

Yup.  ...and don't try to figure out how the marketing declared public conscious approved child-safe SW brand figured out how to hire a convicted drug offender to pimp their shoes.  I asked and was told to go away.

 

Last summer met some of the Stormtroopers (out of costume) from this event.  Some of them got the "Happy Life Day" part of the sign...  Only one or two people in the general public though.

Warbler wrote:  Empire is taking over NY!  Well, just let them try to take over South Jersey and Philadelphia!  We'll give 'em a fight they'll never forget!!

Don't know the outcome but the Battle of Philadelphia I hear was quite a campaign:

 

 

*EDIT*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukvMi9wmHTM&feature=player_embedded

Just like how it went down in the movies...

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#481251
Topic
'Thee Backslacpkping With Media'
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http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html#LibraryOfCongress

Dear Mr. Lopez:

Please accept our apologies for the delay in contacting you about this claim. We are writing now because it is not clear whether you have obtained permission to use the preexisting material contained in your new version of this work. The preexisting material appears to be under copyright protection.

The copyright owner of a work has the exclusive right to make a new version of that work (Section 106 of the copyright law, 17 USC). The law also provides that copyright protection for a work that includes previously copyrighted material does not extend to any part of the work in which this material has been used unlawfully (Section 103). This means that copyright protection will not extend to a derivative work such as a translation, adaptation, or musical arrangement if the preexisting material under copyright protection has been used unlawfully. For more information, please see Circular 22. Please check any written permissions you might have from the copyright owners to determine the extent of your rights with regard to using the copyrighted works. If you have obtained such permissions, please confim this in writing and we will reconsider registration.

If you are not authorized to use the preexisting material or your written permissions indicate that you do not have the right to claim copyright in the new version, we cannot register the claim as submitted. In accordance with our practices, we will close your tile without further action. The fee is not refundable.

If you want to register a claim in your original text (commentary), please send a new printed copy containing only this text. Also, please give us your authorization to amend the "nature of authorship" line to describe the claim as "text" only. We will also delete your statements in the "preexisting material" and "material added to this work" spaces, assuming this text has not been previously published or registered.

 

Initial Response: Maybe the Library of Congress is trying to make me aware of the potential consequences. But I don't understand why they are worrying about permissions. According to the Library of Congress website: (http://www.loc.gov/about/mission.html)

Quote: "The Library's mission is to support the Congress in fulfilling its constitutional duties and to further the progress of knowledge and creativity for the benefit of the American people."

This work was attempting to push the progress of knowledge and creativity in my own odd way. I hope it is to the benefit of more then just the American people.

Maybe the Library of Congress is attempting to do me a favor. But my stance is what I submitted should be included into the Library. If it is or is not lawful, I don't get to choose. There are exceptions to the exclusive rights of copyright law so that authors can create creative works with limited use of copyrighted materials without acquiring permission from the rights holder; commentary, criticism, news reporting, research, scholarship are a few. The laws and how they are weighed on the scale of justice make the final decision. 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' is a creative work and to have a robust Library, the inclusion of 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' should happen. If at any time someone wants to take issue with the reuse which occurs in 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media', then we'll deal with that as it comes. So far, I can barely get people to watch the work. Having the Library of Congress make a permission pre-judgement, I don't think sends the right message to creators.

Sincerely,
%20

 

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#480912
Topic
Info: a Smear-free '93 ?
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Asaki wrote: What other set has the burn marks?

msycamore wrote: Those damaged frames on the Blockade Runner can also be seen in Moth3r's telecine bootleg and if you look close enough you can see that they are in the GOUT as well.

When I learned of the "old friends" did some checking and the places I didn't find them was a CED preservation and anything after the SEs.

Here's a possible explanation of how they got there:

From "The Sounds of Star Wars" book:

PG.53

008 Hatch Sizzle and Explosion

Quote: "At one point while Burtt was working in the basement of Park Way, he was handed the color work print.  At that time, Lucasfilm had only one work print of Star Wars, so the utmost care was used when handling it.  "I thought, 'This is really valuable; my future's at stake here," says Burtt.  "So I threaded the work print up on my Movieola very carefully.  I checked all the rollers and sprockets to make sure it was okay.  Then I pressed Go - and ripped the films to shreads!  Oh, boy.  So I spliced it back together and tried to pretend it didn't happen.  But all the screenings from then on always had this jumpy spot right when the stormtroopers come bursting through the door of the Blockade Runner."

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#480116
Topic
Theater Performance Preservations
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BH018 has news reports from the RotJ Hastings movie heist.

 

Received word of a possible black and white 1/2" Sony reel to reel 1977 Star Wars recording.

 

more memories:

http://boards.theforce.net/classic_trilogy/b10002/16459367/p1/

I was at a flea market about 40 miles from my home this weekend. A dealer that had tons of videos, mostly just copies of movies he rented, or old junk had one video I kind of wanted. It was Star Wars but not the official release. It was in the standard video box like the blank tapes come in. But someone took a sheet of paper that had a Star Wars poster scan on it and wraped it around the box. This scan had to be done on some old copy machine. It was very dark.

The dealer told me this was a bootleg copy of Star Wars taken in during the release of the movie. I thought he meant it was a copy from HBO or other video. BUt he played some of it on the little 13inch TV he had set up. The video wasn't great but you could tell it was taken with a video camera inside a theather. Didn't seem to be anyone else watching it but you could see some of the seats. The picture was kind of dark. He told me that he and a friend that own a theatre at the time made it.

I LOVE my Bootleg of ANH. Had it since I was 6 yrs old. Back in the days when RCA made VHS tapes. 2 Defects though. No opening crawl. And Luke says "They followed us" twice, just before they go on the Death Star. I dare say I still have it. I watch it from time to time because it was my only copy of ANH untill the letterbox THX edition of '95.

Does anyone know of changes done to Return of the Jedi- I used to have an old bootleg copy of that lying around. I got it while it was still in theatres, letterbox and everything, great transfer. I don't remember it being any different though. And yeah, I'd probably buy the old bootleg Star Wars tape!

Some of the most prized parts of my collection are bootlegs. It's just generally a no-no to mention certain aspects of it.

I actually have a bootleg copy of Empire Strikes Back. An old friend of my dad's had a son in the Army at the time and Lucas showed the film to the servicemen. Well, the son took in a camera and his dad gave my dad a copy of it. The image isn't bad, it's the sound that is awful.

My cousin had this boot back in '78 or '79, bought off the streets of NYC. I remember it well.

I had the ROtJ - indeed it was in WS & very good quality for a bootleg.

And I have a copy of ANH without the Ep. IV as well, I never knew it was A New Hope until I bought the 15th anniversary VHS P&S version from 1992 on video, since my copies wree so dark and old. From years of watching...

 

http://boards.theforce.net/toronto_on/b10043/6776026/r6823998/

I think that by the second week that EP1 was out, folks had passed me
3 or 4 different versions.

 

(aside) Uzay molds

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coffin_joe/5484610206/

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#480709
Topic
A Blast From (My) Past: "A Watto Fan Site"
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Sadly when the 'professionals' took over with the sole intention of making money our world wide web changed forever.

...and at any time you can make a website of your own and change the WWW forever...

 

*EDIT*

(Aside2) oh and it seems another site is being sunsetted:

http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/3011

To recap: Yahoo are fucks. Wait, let me try again.

Yahoo! are about to delete all user-generated content on Yahoo! Video and that is really busting my crank, as well as the crank of a lot of people that have joined Archive Team to rescue it.

Please read the post for details and how to help.

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#480641
Topic
Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
Time

Moth3r wrote: British Rail?

Nah i'm sticking with metallurgy jokes today so AuBr3.  auric bromide, digold hexabromide, gold tribromide.  Atomic #35 - Bromine.

So for maximum confusion how'bout - DJAU:cc:BR  - Dark_Jedi's (George's Original Laser Disc) Changed Colors Blu-Ray... so when you take the derivative of the exponent... Dark_Jedi's Awesome Unofficial : Color Corrected : BluRay.

But here's how you would use this title idea in practical situations:

(When you enter a SW chat room and someone asks)

"Pardon me, Star Wars fan, would you happen to have any Blu-DJAU?"

You reply:

"Well of course."

then some random voice pops in and says:

"Blu-DJAU, one of life's finer pleasures"

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#480601
Topic
Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
Time

dark_jedi wrote:

It is pretty funny, truth be told, I actually HATE the term GOUT, just sounds stupid to me, like a disease or something, Ricardo and I make fun of this term all the time, but that is what you guys here use, so I guess I will have to as well.

It's been some pages so i'll try again.   Previously suggested was : GOLD (CC)

George's Original LaserDisc (Color Corrected)

 

GOLD removes the disease metaphor/negative connotations.  Adds a little irony in that such value can be found from something so "worthless" by current media standards.  CC lets everyone know the Colors have been manipulated.  Then to show that this presentation has been raised to current media standards, tack on the BR.  GOLD(CC)BR or GOLD:CC:BR

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#480379
Topic
Cake
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http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/03/cake_coversg.html

For the past ten years, I've been playing a rant by Todd Colby called Cake each week  on my show. Needless to say, it's become a Kenny G classic. After the jump are 160 versions of "Cake" done by you, the WFMU listenership. Thanks to all who participated.  Just amazing!

there's now 208 versions of "Cake"

Start here:

http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KG/Todd_Colby_-_Cake.mp3

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#480011
Topic
Putting a face to the name
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TheBoost wrote: I'm surprised how white this forum is. In my experience black guys form a large chunk of the geek community. And I figured Jambe Davbar was Indian.

I've been classified as a spic before, if that helps.  Jambe Davdar's his online name. (have been meaning to ask where it came from)  In some of the recent articles on SWB his off-line name has showed up. 

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#479996
Topic
A Blast From (My) Past: "A Watto Fan Site"
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(Aside) The geocities fiasco is an important lesson of internet history.  Yahoo bought geocities.  Then in 2009 or 2010 their financial troubles gave them the reasoning to "sunset" the place.  (corporate speak for deletion)

Then the ARCHIVETEAM! stepped in:

http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/2720

(much better retelling then i've done)

and now a large percentage of geocities is available as a torrent.  Although a big torrent; the size with current HD prices should make you annoyed at Yahoo and these other big content housing places.  Yahoo set the trend, MySpace/Facebook/etc will follow...

 

The ArchiveTeam also saved much of 'starwars.yahoo.com' before it went by by:

http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Starwars.yahoo.com

Yeah ArchiveTeam!

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#479847
Topic
Theater Performance Preservations
Time

The source of the Widescreen Pre-ANH SW provides us with details of the tapes history:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Pre-ANH-bootleg-telecine-a-widescreen-version/post/479983/#TopicPost479983

 

Following the U-Matic search line, leads to a familiar place:

http://www.starwars.com/fans/rocks/20090619.html

When director Duncan Jones first saw Star Wars, his passion for sci-fi, robots and filmmaking ignited -- all thanks to a pair of Sony U-matic tapes, courtesy of his father -- music legend and Labyrinth actor David Bowie.

Now that I have made a film, I feel kind of guilty about this, but bare in mind I was about 7 years old at the time. When I was a kid, we had this huge behemoth of a machine called a SONY U-matic. It was one of the very first video tape players. My dad had managed to wrangle us a copy of Star Wars: Episode IV on tape to Switzerland where we were living. The one film resided on a huge pair of Sony U-matic tapes, and I and my school chums would watch the film again and again on a huge TV in the front room. There would always be a dramatic pause half way through the film as we were forced to change tapes due to the limitations of the ancient technology. I never did get to see Episode IV at a theatre, but those days were perfect just as they were. I was crowned Prince of the Nerds, and those Star Wars tapes were my scepter.

Sounds like possibly the same tape as Moth3r's source.

 

Aluminum Falcon wrote:  The one that really caught my eye is an ROTJ workprint/screener.

I think this is a misconception.  There were bogus scammers on usenet offering up versions of ESB an RotJ calling them workprints which supposedly had missing scenes around the SE time.  Technology brought the price down so VHS bootlegs were decent enough to convince people that maybe they were a workprint/screener.  But don't think those terms were used back in the 80s outside of movie production people.

 

Origin story of a US sourced ESB: 

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/07/17/portable-vcrs/#comment-1058349

Another anecdote. We used to line up a half-dozen of the VCRs and copy tapes. Just plop ‘em on an unused desk, cable ‘em all up, and push all the buttons. This was bad enough, but then Steve Wozniak wanted a tape of the newly-released “The Empire Strikes Back.” He bribed a San Diego projectionist to “borrow” the print from the cinema and drive it to Los Angeles in the dead of night. After several hours in a transfer facility, he had a 3/4″ U-Matic professional copy of the film print, and the projectionist high-tailed it back to the cinema to return the print. That tape also made its way into the copying chain. We were perhaps the first half-dozen people with videotape copies of the film. (I discarded my heavily-letterboxed copy years ago…)

Woz later mentioned that the 4000-foot film reels wouldn’t fit the 3000-foot tables on the transfer machine, so they spent extra time cutting the print into sections that would fit, then spliced it back into its original form. Film companies, however, are very cautious that nobody steals frames from a film, lest they be printed into illegal still photos. The prints were examined to detect frame-stealing. Woz never asked whether the splices got the projectionist into any trouble; an occasional splice could be due to a film break, but not several at regular intervals.

Makes me wonder if Lucas knew of this and that affected the negotiations of the Pixar deal, Jobs might have been embarressed about his colleague's past actions... ok probably not.

 

 

SW lead sounds similar to the MeBeJedi/Starkiller.

http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000528.html

Watching a videotaped copy of Star Wars about ten generations down is quite an experience. Drifting sync causes the image to bobble around like a ship pitching on stormy seas. Audio buzz and background noise "breathing" could be awesome to behold. But everyone still got a kick out of watching such things, quality be damned.

 

 

thnxs: mMat Hab:

 

 

http://www.finalcolor.com/history4colorists.htm

mentions some of the Telecine machines from back then:

1975    Rank Cintel Ltd launches Mk III flying spot telecine. Revolutionary benefits include 525 and 625 line operation and 16mm and 35mm film on the same continuous motion transport.
1978     Rank Cintel Ltd introduces TOPSY, a remote control programming system the Mk III telecine.
1980    VTA develop the Wiz color corrector, which became da Vinci Classic 
1983     Amigo, a highly sophisticated controller and pre-programmer for the Mk III is launched      
1983     Sony Betacam vtr launched

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#479983
Topic
Pre-ANH bootleg telecine - a widescreen version (Released)
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The source of this tape was kind enough to inform us of more details of where it came from:

    Nothing remarkable – my source was off two ¾” U-Matic tapes owned by the father of a girlfriend of a then acquaintance of mine.  I simply arranged to go over one day with my early model VHS deck and make a copy.  I have no more information than that.  I would speculate that the guy was either a collector or somehow affiliated with the broadcast industry, as U-matics were considered primarily a professional format at the time.  The recording itself was clearly several generations down with all of the flaws and dropouts already there, which suggests it was more likely from a bootlegged source. 
I'm placing the time frame around early '78.  I was, at the time, nothing but vocal as to my appreciation of the film in question.  He responded by simply affording me access to something I might be interested in.
- The 3/4" U-Matic Video Cassette format was a larger version of a technology from which VHS and BETAMAX evolved.  It housed a wider tape running at twice the speed, yielding a superior image to either consumer format, but a step down from 1" reel to reel video - the current professional NTSC standard.

 

In this time, for most movie goers only the memories would remain, there was no home recording.  Can't imagine the excitement of being given the opportunity to re-see something you had initially thought would be gone possibly forever.  Of course the side effect was the ability of one piece of entertainment taking over the 'time' of the person with the recording.  Yes it allows for geeking out / research of the entertainment object so that it's better understood, which I think helped propel these movies to occupy a larger percentage of the public consciousness, but you wonder what got left behind.

But back to the topic here's the VHS Tape!

[Here's a video of a U-Matic tape for those like me who didn't know]
[http://wn.com/Vintage_Jvc_Cr-4900u_U-matic_S_Video_Recorder_Demo]

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#479049
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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via: http://starwarsaficionado.blogspot.com/2011/02/star-wars-at-1978-oscars.html

http://index.hu/kultur/cinematrix/ccikkek/2011/02/26/star_wars_oscar/

Ben Burtt's Special Academy Award in 1978

 

Direct TV add with evil folks doing nice things:

http://indavideo.hu/video/Gonoszok_karacsonya

 

Harddrive plays John Williams:

http://indavideo.hu/video/Star_Wars_floppyn

 

Burtt wins an award gives a speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4fwqQarCc

interesting tidbit about his pre-sound effect days.