dark_jedi wrote: So has anyone started any kind of audio list of changes for the new Blu's that are coming
After the Wood's stuff are comments people have made, verification by others awaits. One of the keys in this discussion is to get Wood to admit that most of the audio work was done for the 2004, then figure out what from that point was changed for the 2011s. Here's some of his Wood's words, but it's mostly unclear:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/314106/lucasfilm-on-star-wars-the-complete-saga-blu-ray-part-ii-matthew-wood
Q: Was there anything else that you had to make up or add in?
A: Occasionally in New Hope, there were things that could not be completely found, a few very subtle things like a footstep here and there or some background noise that we would just re-perform or get an approximate sound. And of course, every time we watched the movies, George would find something that he wanted to change, so there were changes to the films visually as well as audio-wise, so there are some changes in the Blu-ray version that you guys will find! It was funny, because we’d meticulously put it all together, “here’s what it was!” and then he’ll update it.
Q: On the DVD, the orchestra for the surround channels was swapped, was that fixed?
A: It’s funny, because it never really was an error --- what happened back then was that the music master we had at the time didn’t have any surround information. One of the techniques that has been used previously from mixers is to give it a bigger soundstage---they would have flipped the back channel to give it a different kind of reverb. And that was done on the THX 1138 remaster, which I didn’t work on. For this go-round (6.1) we decided not to do that, so the surround information is direct to the back, no longer flipped on the music track.
Q: Was there any thought given to archiving previous tracks like the 6-track master from the 70mm prints or the 78 mono remix? Any thought given to putting them on the Blu-ray?
A: Yes, we have those and they’ve all been digitized. I don’t know if they considered putting those on the Blu-ray. That might be more of a question for Marketing, it may be an issue of space. It’s funny because I play those other audio tracks, like the scene when R2 and C3PO have been left on Tatooine and they walk through the canyon. I just love that on the current mix, you can actually hear the quiet, when R2 is lonely, going through the canyon. I played the original mix and it’s FULL of hiss and totally brittle, so it’s fun now to hear it like George wanted it to really be, what was intended.
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-coming-to-Blu-Ray-UPDATE-August-30-2011-No-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO/post/529274/#TopicPost529274
Adywan wrote: Something else i noticed about the audio. The sound effects for part of the detention cell shoot out swapped channels in the 2004 versions. Now i decided to check the Blu-Ray audio and the same mistakes are there. Just check the section right after the Stormtroopers start knocking on the door when 3P0 is on the comlink right up until Leia blasts the hole in the wall. Now this was a mistake only found in the 2004 version and was correct in all the old mixes. You can hear it best if you can mute all channels apart from front left & right. even though the laser blasts are quite fast to keep a track of which direction they are, just keep an eye out for when Han shoots. You hear two clear blasts coming from the left channels when they should be coming out of the right. In this section all the effects are swapped. Now did they really start this mix again from scratch or did they just go and fix the rear channels and dialogue?
from MF.com
Brass can now be heard during X-Wing dive to the Death Star.
Energy wave sound from Death Star explosion sounds more balanced.
Vader's breath sound can be heard when his TIE is spinning, but is very faint.
Hamill's "The first transport is away" is still there.
C-3PO still says "There's nowhere to go" after saying "Oh this is suicide."
On Dagobah, Luke still tells R2 "You were lucky to get out of there" instead of "You're lucky you don't taste very good."
Boba Fett's voice is still the 2004 "Kiwi" accent from Temuera Morrison.
Vader's "Alert my Star Destroyer...." crap is still there, unchanged.
"Jedi Rocks" is still there and unchanged.
Vader's "NO's" have been added. The first sounds like it has been sloppily laid on top of the mix, the second is from ROTS.
