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#566774
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Was George Lucas a trickster the whole time?
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generalfrevious wrote: Let's discuss the third question I made three posts ago about the stature of the OT.

Is where we begin to use the phrase 'George Lucas unraped my childhood'.  Or is the official sanctioned phrase now 'George Lucas unraped my adulthood.'  'Lucasfilm unraped my personhood'.  Admiral Ackbar unraped my trap?

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#566773
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Save Star Wars Dot Com
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generalfrevious wrote: How come there haven't been any updates to savestarwars.com since the LOC scare five months ago?

A. the 'LOC scare' as you put it happened in 1995 or 1996 most likely.  (remember it was about returning the NFR print so it could be checked if it was a better source for the Special Editions, which Lucasfilm was having issues finding a good source.)  And it's a NFR thing.  (yes it's confusing that the NFR is part of the LOC, but placing the issue where it belongs is part of understanding the debate)

B. If you have an idea for an article, suggest it.  These articles require research that doesn't happen over night.  and it has taken people time to come forward with leads on several of the articles.  heck it took almost 15 years for the NFR thing to filter down to this forums members.

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#566652
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Info: Online 8mm Preservations
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Here’s a thread for links to online viewable 8mm preservations of the Star Wars films.

Initial list started from: http://theswca.com/index.php?action=disp_category&category_id=409

Video and Film
          / Super 8

A New Hope

France
     Ken Films
___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 8 Minutes

Extrait de la guerre des étoiles en super 8 sonore
Uploaded by saga9mm on Jul 5, 2010
http://www.transfert-films-dvd.com - Transfert super 8 sonore - films de ma collection personnelle en mauvais état. Débruitage, correction du niveau de noir, du gain, du gamma, correction de la balance des blancs (le film avait complètement viré au rosé), et de la balance des couleurs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giv08gRlB2Q

Germany
     Marketing Film
___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound (Dogfight Cover)
___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound (R2-D2 & C-3PO Cover)

8mm filmprojector Bauer T 610 / Star Wars z ta?my filmowej s 8 mm
Uploaded by DanvanderDzban on Oct 26, 2009
gwiezdne wojny na celuloidzie super 8 mm / projektor Bauer T610 stereo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VLroz4DUJY

Italy
     IE International
___     Battaglia Spaziale
___     Duello col Laser
___     La Capttura dell’Astronave
___     La Liberazione di Leia
___     Messaggio dallo Spazio
___     SOS Nella Galassia
___     Trappola Mortale

Japan
     Fuji Film
**___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 17 Minutes

___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 8 Minutes

___     SW Super 8mm Film (17min. Color/Sound)**

United States
     Ken Films

STAR WARS SUPER 8 MOVIE 1977
Uploaded by adolfodiazdigital on Jul 1, 2011
Película en formato super 8, de 1977, escenas selectas producida por Ken Films.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbyjEBtSu-0&feature=related

**___     SW Super 8 Film–B&W

___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Silent**

Star Wars Super 8 with Rare Alternate Soundtrack
Uploaded by jskujins2 on Sep 18, 2011
This is the Ken Films 200 ft color silent edition of Star Wars. This particular print was printed on sound film with a blank soundstripe. In 1983 an original alternate soundtrack was recorded on this film. The film itself has faded to red.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbe-RsOHwsE

Star wars on 8mm reel
Uploaded by windsorx on Jan 31, 2011
This video was uploaded from an Android phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6WcumAoH4k

___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 17 Minutes

STAR WARS Super 8mm - 1977 Vol. 1
Uploaded by GhostHost1969 on Sep 28, 2011
Super 8 digest of “STAR WARS”. Starring Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Peter Cushing, Alec Guinness, Anthony Daniels, David Prowse, Kenny Baker and Peter Mayhew. Winner of six Academy Awards. This version includes extended scenes from the 200 ft. digest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJEBqxUQ9WU

STAR WARS Super 8mm - 1977 Vol. 2
Uploaded by GhostHost1969 on Sep 29, 2011
Super 8 digest of “STAR WARS”. Starring Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Peter Cushing, Alec Guinness, Anthony Daniels, David Prowse, Kenny Baker and Peter Mayhew. Winner of six Academy Awards. Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cffiXJLbsT0

STAR WARS Super 8mm Digests - Complete
Uploaded by GhostHost1969 on Oct 8, 2011
Super 8 digests of “STAR WARS”. There are two 400 ft. reels and one 200 ft. They have been edited together in chronological order on video. Starring Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Peter Cushing, Alec Guinness, Anthony Daniels, David Prowse, Kenny Baker and Peter Mayhew.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WKaoyUgAQ

Star Wars IV - Super 8
Uploaded by phoneval on Feb 1, 2011
Star Wars IV - Super 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6Kl4DKPvM

___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 17 Minutes, Spanish Language

Star Wars IV Segunda Seleccion De Escenas Super 8
Uploaded by phoneval on Aug 23, 2011
No description available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cznPI2IcuE

Star Wars 1977 - Super 8mm - Studio3 - Case Producciones
Uploaded by arcaperdida on Jul 23, 2009
Josè Luis Valenzuela nos regala un pequeño fragmento de la pelicula La Guerra de las Galaxias de 1977 dirigida por George Lucas y mùsica de John Willias.
Agradecimientos a Josè Luis Valenzuela Cerda por las imagenes como a 20th Century Fox - ILM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPTXSCVTuHU

La Guerra de las Galaxias en Super 8
Uploaded by sedriss72 on Feb 20, 2011
Star Wars en Super 8 en mi proyector Hanimex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8auR2G1PiQ

**___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 4 Minutes

___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 8 Minutes**

STAR WARS Super 8mm Short Version - 1977
Uploaded by GhostHost1969 on Oct 16, 2011
Super 8 digest of “STAR WARS”. Starring Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Peter Cushing, Alec Guinness, Anthony Daniels, David Prowse, Kenny Baker and Peter Mayhew. Winner of six Academy Awards. This is the 200 ft. digest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9etKbtfhDM

___     SW Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 8 Minutes, Spanish Language

Empire Strikes Back

Germany
     UFA Theaters
___     ESB Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 4 Minutes

United States
     Ken Films
___     ESB Super 8 Film Part 2–Color, Sound 17 Minutes

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Super 8mm - 1980 Vol. 1
Uploaded by GhostHost1969 on Sep 22, 2011
Super 8 digest of " STAR WARS The Empire Strikes Back". Starring Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Billy Dee Williams, Anthony Daniels, David Prowse, Kenny Baker, Peter Mayhew,andFrank Oz. Winner of a Special Achievement Academy Award for Visual Effects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFGqdAM70mk

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Super 8mm - 1980 Vol. 2
Uploaded by GhostHost1969 on Sep 22, 2011
Super 8 digest of “The Empire Strikes Back”. Starring Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Billy Dee Williams, Anthony Daniels, David Prowse, Kenny Baker, Peter Mayhew,andFrank Oz. Winner of a Special Achievement Academy Award for Visual Effects. Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qldLROKztxQ

Star Wars - Empire Strikes Back 2 - Super 8
Uploaded by phoneval on Jan 31, 2011
Star Wars - Empire Strikes Back 2 - Super 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ujK4pBHyoM

___     ESB Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 17 Minutes

**
___     ESB Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 17 Minutes, Spanish Language**

**
___     ESB Super 8 Film–Color, Sound 4 Minutes

___    ESB Super 8 Film–B&W**

Star Wars Empire Strikes Back Super 8 RARE Black and White
Uploaded by TonyFizzle on Jan 16, 2012
A copy of the 200ft version of star wars in Black and White and without any sound! never heard of this copy to exist but i have it! uber duber rare!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzX7vsIe5A

Empire Strikes Back SOUND SUPER8 Rare B&W
Uploaded by TonyFizzle on Jan 29, 2012
The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK . Rare approx 200ft cut on super 8 film.
No sound but i decided to edit audio onto this version.
To hear and watch how this film really projects without audio and just the clicking of the projector click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzX7vsIe5A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQosG_wa2T8

Undetermined

Star Wars Super 8
Uploaded by Deafinition on Aug 26, 2010
I get the beast working.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbUDUT3T_EA

Star Wars & Ambience
Uploaded by Martinlkennedy on Nov 17, 2010
My scratchy old super-8 Stars Wars film with completely incongruous ambient music. But kind of mesmerising. I bought the original silent 8mm film at a local music shop in 1978 or 79.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Zte3xNoKY

SUPER 8 STAR WARS!
Uploaded by TwoTrueFreaks on Jun 3, 2009
I filmed my Super 8 version of Star Wars and roughly dubbed some music and dialog. It is impossible to get things truly synched up because the film runs a lot slower than the DVD.
I have been putting off learning to use the new version of IMovie, so this is my test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzMXecd2i_U

Star Wars - Super 8mm - Colour Sound on Eumig Mark S 807D Projector
Uploaded by ebuy05 on Jan 22, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIRsjKdpaFI

Star Wars Super 8 Film
by Moving Pixel Films
http://vimeo.com/6922763

Macro Shot of Star Wars Super 8 Film Cell Rolling
by Jacob Morales
http://vimeo.com/7053444

Star Wars: Selected Scenes - Super 8 transfer (with sound)
by Nick Bontrager
http://vimeo.com/18324561

Star Wars 1977 - Luke Skywalker & Obi Wan - Super 8mm - Studio3 - Case Producciones
Uploaded by arcaperdida on Jul 23, 2009
Obi-Wan Kenobi y Luke Skywalker ven el mensaje que la princesa Leia envio a traves de R2-D2. Obi-Wan le dice a Luke que èl entreno a Darth Vader como caballero Jedi,pero Darth Vader se paso al lado oscuro. Agradecimientos a Josè Luis Valenzuela por las imagenes y Archivo Studio3 y a 20th Century Fox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UF8mE5VoiE

1980 Edmonton: Waiting in line for Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back
Uploaded by brucevideobrain on Oct 18, 2010
A short 8mm film clip of my cousin and my friend waiting to go see Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back at the Paramount Theatre on Jasper Ave. in Edmonton Alberta in July of 1980.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fkhZvdF5Ak

Empire Strikes Back EP 5 - 8 MM Version preview
Uploaded by negative1ne on May 25, 2008
Here is a preview of the 8MM version
of the Empire Strikes back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjViSQQk6eA

Related Links:

http://theswca.com/index.php?action=disp_category&category_id=409

http://derannlists.co.uk/derann/8a.php

http://www.classichomecinema.co.uk/

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Super-8mm-to-DVD/topic/2955/

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#566616
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Credits & Leaders Thread
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The Empire Strikes Back super8mm Reel 2 Lead-in - phoneval : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ujK4pBHyoM

The Empire Strikes Back super8mm Reel 2 Lead-out - phoneval : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ujK4pBHyoM

THE END LUCASFILM (LTD) 1980 -> (color strips) -> (color strips with hand) -> (building) -> TAIL KEN FILMS INC. -> THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK -> PART 2 -> FCL 6S 08? 57? -> DEC 23, 1982


Interesting bits: This Ken Films super8 print is nicely labeled with the creation date of December 23rd, 1982.
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#566620
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Credits & Leaders Thread
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Star Wars super8mm Reel 1 Lead-in - GhostHost1969 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJEBqxUQ9WU


Star Wars super8mm Reel 1 Lead-out - GhostHost1969 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJEBqxUQ9WU
Star Wars super8mm Reel 2 Lead-in - GhostHost1969 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cffiXJLbsT0
Star Wars super8mm Reel 2 Lead-out - GhostHost1969 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cffiXJLbsT0 (Star Wars credits) -> The End -> BERGEN #9 - COLOR - SO(und)
Star Wars super8mm Digests Reel 1 Lead-out - GhostHost1969 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WKaoyUgAQ (Star Wars credits) -> NEG #1 -> (cross out) -> COLOR - SOUND
Star Wars super8mm Short Reel 1 Lead-out - GhostHost1969 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9etKbtfhDM


GhostHost1969 discussion : http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=006532
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#566622
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Credits & Leaders Thread
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Star Wars super8mm Spanish Reel 1 Lead-in - phoneval : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cznPI2IcuE

START -> BERGEN -> (diamond) -> 11 -> (diamond) -> 10 -> (diamond) -> 9 -> (diamond) -> 8 -> (diamond) -> 7 -> (diamond) -> 6 -> (diamond) -> 5 -> 4 or A over color stripes -> (arrow) -> 4 -> 3 -> 20th Century Fox Logo -> A LUCASFILM LIMITED Production -> STAR WARS



Star Wars super8mm Spanish Reel 1 Lead-out - phoneval : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cznPI2IcuE (Star Wars credits) -> The End -> BERGEN # 26 - COLOR - SOUND -> STAR
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#566621
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Credits & Leaders Thread
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Star Wars super8mm Reel 1 Lead-in - phoneval : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6Kl4DKPvM

Aleh? -> STAR WARS LONG VER -> ?K? -> ?WARS? -> RECORD -> SCAN? START -> (diamond) -> 11 -> (diamond) -> 10 -> (diamond) -> 9 -> (diamond) -> 8 -> (diamond) -> 7 -> (diamond) -> 6 -> (diamond) -> 5 -> (arrow) -> 3 (with red, green blue stripes) -> (line) -> (arrow) -> 3 -> 20th Century Fox Logo -> A LUCASFILM LIMITED Productions -> STAR WARS



Star Wars super8mm Reel 1 Lead-out - phoneval : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6Kl4DKPvM (normal credits) -> MUSIC BY JOHN WILLIAMS -> STAR WARS COPYRIGHT 1977 TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX FILM PRODUCTION ALL RIGHTS RESERVED -> THIN? -> DEL? 8043? -> ILM -> STAR WARS -> R-5 (crossed out) -> 5B (crossed out) -> KEN FILMS LONG VERSION -> STAR WARS -> For Star Wars -> (crossed out) -> Del#? 180829 -> Sound? & Long Ste??? -> #1A -> PICTURE -> (dot) -> FOOT -> No Lor? Picture -> Subject -> NE ->
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#566623
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Credits & Leaders Thread
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Star Wars super8mm Reel 1 Lead-in (silent w/ alt track) - jskujins2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbe-RsOHwsE

RD? -> 10/13 77 -> HEAD -> (dot) -> PICTURE -> SMPTE UNIVERSAL LEADER -> XXXX -> SMPTE UNIVERSAL LEADER -> REEL NO. PROD. NO. PLAY DATE -> DEL 173745 -> FOX TRADEMARK Log Version (2') 1:2? Fln't? Inteieg -> (circle) -> (arrow) CUT IERT? -> (specialized Star Wars credits)
Star Wars super8mm Reel 1 Lead-out (silent w/ alt track) - jskujins2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbe-RsOHwsE THE END -> 5 -> HH
Star Wars super8mm Reel 1 Lead-out (silent w/ alt track) - jskujins2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbe-RsOHwsE
Subtitles: 001 - In Ben Kenobi's dwelling 002 - Ben reveals that Luke's father was a Jedi Knight 003 - And gives Luke his father's old light saber. 004 - R2D2 reveals a message 005 - stored in him by Princess Leia 006 - who asks Ben to save the rebellion 007 - from the evil Empire. 008 - Ben tells Luke he must help save the princess. 009 - Luke is torn 010 - between his responsibilities at home 011 - and his need to join the rebellion 012 - and fulfill his destiny. 013 - In the Death Star 014 - Han Solo, Chewbacca 015 - the rescued Princess Leia and Luke 016 - must get to Hon's ship 017 - The robots see their chance. 018 - Imperial ships are following them. 019 - They prepare for battle 020 - They're safe ... for now.

Notes: I believe the opening pen script is the creation date of this print: October 13th, 1977.
The credits are before the movie.

Mentioned in: http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=006532
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#566595
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SWxTPM-4DWHUXGA
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negative1 wrote: see the date of the original post.

This project and 'Thee Backslacpkping With Media' were both initially posted on that date.

Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?

This quote will guide the next phase.  Need to get this test segment done as a proof of concept then see if the world wants to help out.  Can't complete this on my own.  Don't have the resources.

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#566423
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Bradiew wrote: Now before I start becoming a troll like Mr. None, I will stop.

Is there a term for new posters to a forum who start their first post claiming that they are not spamming, then quickly call out people for being a troll?

I personally use the surname, it.

 

Bradiew continues: I don't get this guy's love for this "rapping" computer (I refuse to call it an MC)  But to each their own,

What you are hearing is an authentic voice.  It's horrendous and will never be replicated and that's what makes it charming.  There's only a few outsider rappers.

He did a podcast trashing a bunch of MC's I know, and would not man up and battle them after they confronted him.

Finally an answer to this MC Chris thing.  We don't know your history.  I would recommend doing a dis-track.  Play a few lines from the podcast then dis the shit out of him.  Steal lines from Roxanne's Revenge.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9IFs13w_JQ

But you could be pigeonholed if it doesn't turn out right, plus Chris is onto bigger things.  and people like his music partly because he doesn't sound like a typical MC.

Why as a self called nerdcore artist you want to put down another artist in the relatively small field is for you to self rationalize.  TV's Frink and dark_jedi have the same kind of issue, why anytime rap or hip hop is discussed they feel the need to say they're not down with it and that it's not music.