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#589776
Topic
International Audio (including Voice-Over Translations)
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In one of the Japanese variations, Greedo is dubbed.  Odd processing on the voice.  Haven't heard of this happening in any other language.  Maybe this is one of the reasons why there was a new dub created for the SEs.  Here's the voice actor:

Birth name: Masaharu (??) Maeda (??)

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=427

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#589769
Topic
Treadwell Collection
Time

TWC298 : 1997 Special Edition Programming

TREADWELL COLLECTION

Contents:
E! Behind the Scenes : Star Wars Special Edition (1997.02.01)
Sci-Fi Channel's The Force Returns Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition (1997.03.01)
Star Wars Special Edition : Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi Electronic Press Kit
The Barbra Walters Special : Harrison Ford interview (1997.03.24)



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Storylines
00 - All
01 - E! Behind the Scenes : Star Wars Special Edition (1997.02.01) [22:10:26]
02 - Sci-Fi Channel's The Force Returns Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition (1997.03.01) [23:26:17]
03 - Star Wars Special Edition : Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi Electronic Press Kit [50:16:22]
04 - The Barbra Walters Special : Harrison Ford interview (1997.03.24) [14:04:29]


Storyline - 01 - E! Behind the Scenes : Star Wars Special Edition (1997.02.01)
01 - E! Behind the Scenes : Star Wars Special Edition (1997.02.01)
  01 - Introduction
  02 - 10 million dollar come back
  03 - New Jabba sequence
  04 - A classic on the big screen
  05 - Hamill and Ford
  06 - commercials
  07 - Restore and Preserve
  08 - Updates and Criticism
  09 - Sound
  10 - Story
  11 - commercials
  12 - Merchandising
  13 - Early screenings
  14 - commercials
  15 - Hamill's 'Black Pearl'
  16 - Special Edition premiere
  17 - cut

Storyline - 02 - Sci-Fi Channel's The Force Returns Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition (1997.03.01)
18 - Sci-Fi Channel's The Force Returns Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition (1997.03.01)
  18 - Crawl and Introduction
  19 - Fixing the Trilogy
  20 - Theatrical experience and getting it right
  21 - cut
  22 - Restoration and New shots
  23 - Audio remastering and redesigning
  24 - cut
  25 - Adding Jabba the Hutt
  26 - MST3K commercial
  27 - Fan reaction, premiere and conclusion
  28 - cut (WOODHOLLY-97)

Storyline - 03 - Star Wars Special Edition : Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi Electronic Press Kit
29 - Star Wars Special Edition : Electronic Press Kit
  29 - Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi Electronic Press Kit
  30 - Empire/Jedi Trailer #1  Ch.1 D/M/E Ch.2 Narr. 2:00
  31 - Empire/Jedi Trailer #2  Ch.1 D/E Ch.2 Music 2:00
  32 - Featurette with text  Ch.1 D/M/E Ch.2 Narr. 9:49
  33 - Featurette without text  Ch.1 D/E Ch.2 Music 9:49
    Font Information Slate
    Chyron in order of appearance
    :46  George Lucas - "Star Wars" Creator
    2:02  Carrie Fisher - "Princess Leia"
    2:37  Harrison Ford - "Han Solo"
    2:50  Mark Hamill - "Luke Skywalker"
  34 - Empire Film Clips
    35 - "Scoundrel" 1:22
    36 - "I'll Give it a Try" 1:55
    37 - "Snow Battle" 1:31
    38 - "Asteroid Field" 1:11
    39 - "Cloud City" 2:05
    40 - "Let's Make a deal" :53
    41 - "Carbon Freeze" 1:38
    42 - "Obi-Wan Never Told You" 1:25
  43 - Jedi Film Clips
    44 - "Defeating Jabba the Hutt 1:32
    45 - "Escape" 1:46
    46 - "Speeder Bike Chase" 1:15
    47 - "Jedi Rocks" :40
  48 - Selected Sound Bites
  48 - George Lucas - "Star Wars" Creator
    49 - ...on 20th anniversary of "Star Wars" :08
    50 - ...on re-releasing the Trilogy :13
    51 - ...on "Star Wars" as modern myth :11
    52 - ...on combining serials and myths :14
    53 - ...on re-compositing "Empire" snow battle :50
    54 - ...on re-doing "Empire" Cloud City :55
    55 - ...on Jabba music in "Jedi" :24
    56 - ...on Sy Snootles limitations :38
  57 - Harrison Ford - "Han Solo"
    58 - ...on reading with hundreds of actors :08
    59 - ...on testing others for "Han Solo" part :08
    60 - ...on first day on Millennium Falcon :06
    61 - ...on flying Millennium Falcon :39
  62 - Mark Hamill - "Luke Skywalker"
    63 - ...on hearing about "Star Wars" :10
    64 - ...on reading with Harrison Ford :10
    65 - ...on getting "Luke Skywalker" part :09
    66 - ...on "Empire's" darker themes :16
  67 - Carrie Fisher - "Princess Leia"
    68 - ...on first reading "Star Wars" script :16
    69 - ...on preparing for "Jedi" :13
  70 - cut
71 - commercials Oscar Night

Storyline - 04 - The Barbra Walters Special : Harrison Ford interview (1997.03.24)
72 - The Barbra Walters Special : Harrison Ford interview (1997.03.24)
  72 - Introduction
  73 - On Academy Awards, rating, career and luck
  74 - The Devil's Own and the business of filmmaking
  75 - Childhood and Carpentry
  76 - American Graffiti contract and bell boy lines
  77 - Star Wars and would you play Han again?  Indy?
  78 - Philosophy and 'Force Yourself'
  79 - commercials



DVD_ROM - Video Related - (2 hours)
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Making of the Special Edition
SW The Making Of The Myth
NBC News Time & Again Star Wars Special

 

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#589731
Topic
Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
Time

There's no similar preservation effort for the dubs, yet.  drive.google.com seems like a viable option if you want a file host.  As several dubs have been lost when the releases went digital, there's a good case for a more open discussion.  The threads for specific languages (Latin American, French, German), the versions of GOUT and International Audio threads are beginning to piece together the history of these things.  I've been pleasantly surprised by the versions found in online video hosters, although not complete (typically one or two parts have been C&D), at least it's some concrete evidence.  (who knew they made the Read Along Storybook in Finnish.)

Catbus, on the Hindi, i've found evidence (not sure if it's official) of the prequels, but were the first three dubbed?  It's odd tracking these mixes and finding when new ones were created and others abandoned.  Catalan didn't get a DVD version, the original SW and ESB in Japanese were redone for the SEs, the blu-rays have Cantonese and Thai, the TPM 3D was the first Swedish dub.  One country may have gotten the dubs for the prequels but not the others.  We're going to need more local experts.

Post
#589716
Topic
International Audio (including Voice-Over Translations)
Time

'Thanks Ben' international audio variation : Death Star's just blown up and there's a shot of Luke moving his lips while Ben says "The Force will be with you... always".

In Catalan, Czech, & Russian dubs Luke says 'Thanks Ben' before TFWBWYA line.

Luke doesn't say anything in English, 80s Spanish, Japanese, Hungarian, Ukraine, 80s Braz/Port, German and French so far.

Post
#589661
Topic
Info Wanted: anyone done a TPM and AOTC colour correction?
Time

^ The Teal shift seems like it is fairly constant throughout, shifting to the other end of the color wheel, should undo, but there are variations of midtones, etc. so finding those levels will require some time/effort.  Interested in what values you come up with.

Alexrd wrote: Reading that thread I was reminded of the scene swap at the end of Yoda's duel.  Has anyone tried to put the sequence in the correct order to see if there were any audio continuity issues?

That scene shift and the 'chase thru the power couplings' are strict reordering so the music cues didn't need to be changed.  But in other locations of the PT films, audio changes were identified.  TPM's 'Vote Now' comes to mind.

Don't believe any projects following your criteria have taken place in OT.com.  A fan edit of AotC may have done a color correction, asking around at fanedit.org would be a place to start.

 

Post
#589650
Topic
Info Wanted: anyone done a TPM and AOTC colour correction?
Time

Alexrd wrote: As for AotC, it has that horrid green tint all over the movie and I'm not sure what can be done about it or how.

I believe people have identify it as the 'Teal' shift:

http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html

One scene in AotC not 'Teal' adjusted (but shifted elsewhere) was when Anakin confides to Padme about the killing of the Tusken Raiders.  So that's the pay off of the color adjustment.

Some other 2011 adjustments to consider are mentioned in: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/DIF-Difference-tool-to-spot-visual-changes-SW-2004-2011/post/538958/#TopicPost538958

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#589636
Topic
Treadwell Collection
Time

TWC300 : 1997 SW Interviews & 83 News

TREADWELL COLLECTION

Contents:
Later hosted by David Alan Grier - Mark Hamill interview
The Tonight Show with Jay Leno - Carrie Fisher interview
Oprah - Star Wars 20th Anniversary Special
Star Wars Special Edition News and Trailers
Today 1983 Return of the Jedi Reports
Other



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Storylines
00 - All
01 - Later hosted by David Alan Grier - Mark Hamill interview [21:43:04]
02 - The Tonight Show with Jay Leno - Carrie Fisher interview [11:14:11]
03 - Oprah - Star Wars 20th Anniversary Special [43:26:18]
04 - Star Wars Special Edition News and Trailers [15:03:11]
05 - Today 1983 Return of the Jedi Reports [17:40:05]
06 - Other [06:04:12]



Storyline - 01 - Later hosted by David Alan Grier - Mark Hamill interview
01 - later host David Alan Grier - Mark Hamill (1997.02.21)
  01 - Working on the SW radio drama, house fire, SW toys, re-release, Black Pearl
  02 - cut
  03 - Prequels, career maintenance, voice over work
  04 - cut
  05 - on the success of Star Wars, musical
  06 - cut
  07 - credits
  08 - cut

Storyline - 02 - The Tonight Show with Jay Leno - Carrie Fisher interview
09 - The Tonight Show with Jay Leno - Carrie Fisher, Troy Aikmen and George Clinton (1997.02.10)
  09 - We'll be right back with Carrie Fisher
  10 - cut
  11 - Carrie Fisher - old Princess Leia shampoo, innuendo names, smoking, dating
  12 - Carrie Fisher - Star Wars, more innuendo hair, clip, Leia figure
  13 - Doritos - Star Wars 3D motion cards (Darryl Hammonds?)
  14 - cut
  15 - Troy Aikmen - retirement, Brute
  16 - cut
  17 - promos upcoming guests
  18 - cut
  19 - Fisher says goodnight to daughter

Storyline - 04 - Star Wars Special Edition News and Trailers
20 - Siskel and Ebert - Next Week Star Wars
21 - E! News Weekend - Star Wars (1999.01)
  22 - cut
23 - Star Wars Special Edition commercial - "Back on the big screen"
  24 - cut
  25 - Box Office Top Five, SWSE report
26 - Entertainment Tonight (1997.02.14) - 6 Prequels (edited)
27 - Star Wars Special Edition commercial - "Number one movie in America, for the second week in a row."
    "Star Wars raged" "You've gotta see it on the big screen"
    Empire Strikes Back - March
  28 - cut

Storyline - 03 - Oprah - Star Wars 20th Anniversary Special
29 - Oprah - Star Wars 20th Anniversary Special (1997.02.18)
  29 - "The Force is back with a vengeance"
  30 - Oprah in SWSE
  31 - Darth Vader
  32 - Mark Hamill
  33 - Billy Dee Williams, book club, upcoming guests
  34 - Anthony Daniels
  35 - Chewbacca / Peter Mayhew, SE preview
  36 - cut
  37 - Special Edition updates, George Lucas, directing again, Pepsi Theater commercial
  38 - cut
  39 - Star Wars Special Edition commercial - "This friday the saga continues"
  40 - cut
  41 - upcoming guests
  42 - commercials
  43 - Super Bowl commercial special effects (Pepsi dancing bears)
  44 - cut
  45 - Super Bowl commercial special effects cont. (Nissan pigeons)
  46 - cut
  47 - Jonathan Frakes
  48 - cut
  49 - credits
  50 - cut

Storyline - 04 - Star Wars Special Edition News and Trailers
51 - Entertainment Tonight Exclusive - Star Wars Screen Tests (1997.02.18)
  52 - Star Wars
  53 - ET cont.
  54 - ET Intro
  55 - ET cont.
  56 - Star Wars Screen Tests
  57 - ET cont.

Storyline - 05 - Today 1983 Return of the Jedi Reports
58 - Today NBC News - Jim Brown in Hollywood - Return of the Jedi report (cut w/ audio drop outs)
  59 - Day 3 - John Williams and Ben Burtt
  60 - Day 4 - Harrison Ford
  61 - Day 5 - Jeff Krispow (first in line), Howard Kazanjian, Lawrence Kasden
  62 - Day 5 - Future movies, kid interview

Storyline - 06 - Other
63 - Doctor Who on Fox promo
64 - cut
65 - Definitive Collection - Star Wars Supplemental Materials - Trailers
  66 - Star Wars preview (1976) "Coming this summer from 20th Century-Fox"
  67 - Star Wars Trailer - "Winner of 7 Academy Awards"
  68 - Star Wars Trailer - two week April 10th
  69 - Empire Strikes Back (cut)



DVD_ROM - Video Related - (2.75 Hours)
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1977.05.xx - Carolyn Jackson interviews Carrie Fisher
1978.10.13 - Film Talk - Mark Hamill Interview
1982.xx.xx - RotJ Fan Doc - Jeff Broz
1986.xx.xx - CityLights Interviews Carrie Fisher
1995.xx.xx - Carrie Fisher Interview
1997.0x.xx - Big Breakfast - Mark Hamill Interview
1997.0x.xx - GMTV Mark Hamill SWSE Interview
1997.xx.xx - MTV Movie Special - Star Wars Special Edition
1997.xx.xx - Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition Trailer
1998.xx.xx - Star Wars Actors Con Interviews - Caroline Blakiston, Phil Brown, Warwick Davis, Jeremy Bulloch
2009.09.29 - TODAY - Matt Lauer interviews Carrie Fisher Wishfull Drinking
2009.11.09 - AFI Tribute to George Lucas Videos

 

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#589538
Topic
Treadwell Collection
Time

TWC316 : MoF:ILM SW:RS Prequels Parodies More

TREADWELL COLLECTION

Contents:
Masters of Fantasy - Industrial Light & Magic
Star Wars Episode 1 Reports
Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Star Wars Misc
Sifl & Olly Show S01E04
That '70s Show 'A New Hope' S01E20 (1999.03.14)
The Daily Show - Patrick Stewart



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But the :F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: :D:A:T:A:B:A:S:E: believes that obsolete media occupies a class of as yet undefined orphaned work which deserve some protection under copyright legislation.



Storylines
00 - All
01 - Masters of Fantasy - Industrial Light & Magic [22:51:22]
02 - Star Wars Episode 1 Reports [22:38:01]
03 - Star Wars Rogue Squadron [16:15:28]
04 - Star Wars Misc [10:54:00]
05 - Sifl & Olly Show S01E04 [08:39:27]
06 - That '70s Show 'A New Hope' S01E20 (1999.03.14) [23:13:14]
07 - The Daily Show - Patrick Stewart [06:36:15]


Storyline - 04 - Star Wars Misc
01 - San Diego Comic Con 1997 - Sansweet Presentation cam - Lost Cut Tatooine Scenes
  01 - Luke goes to finds his friends
  02 - Biggs says goodbye to Luke
  03 - cut [Sightings credits]

Storyline - 01 - Masters of Fantasy - Industrial Light & Magic
04 - Masters of Fantasy - Industrial Light & Magic (1998)
  04 - Introduction and Process
  05 - Men in Black, Flubber and Jumanji
  06 - commercials
  07 - Star Wars, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, Death Becomes Her, Forrest Gump, The Lost World: Jurassic Park
  08 - commercials
  09 - Small Soldiers, Deep Impact
  10 - commercials
  11 - Future, Star Wars Episode 1, Conclusion
  12 - cut

Storyline - 02 - Star Wars Episode 1 Reports
13 - Entertainment Tonight (1998.11.10) - Episode 1 Report - first images, banner
  14 - cut
15 - Entertainment Tonight (1998.11.17?) - Episode 1 Trailer
  16 - cut

Storyline - 07 - The Daily Show - Patrick Stewart
17 - The Daily Show (w/ Craig Kilborn) - Patrick Stewart - Star Trek Insurrection

Storyline - 04 - Star Wars Misc
18 - The Simpsons S10E09 'Mayered to the Mob' - starring Mark Hamill (1998.12.20)
  19 - cut

Storyline - 05 - Sifl & Olly Show S01E04
20 - Sifl & Olly Show S01E04
  20 - Calls from the public - 'Totally into Star Wars'
  21 - Star Worlds by Bernard Spockman off-broadway production
  22 - The Star Wars Song
  23 - cut

Storyline - 03 - Star Wars Rogue Squadron
24 - Star Wars Rogue Squadron
  24 - Opening Menu & Options -> Showroom -> at the movies
  25 - SWRS01: Beggar's Canyon
  26 - SWRS02: We saved Mos Eisley
  27 - SWRS03: General Reeikan
  28 - SWRS04: Supplies
  29 - SWRS05: Find the Nona
  30 - SWRS06: Shuttle is away
  31 - SWRS07: Empire defector
  32 - SWRS08: Evacuation
  33 - SWRS09: Protect Y-Wings
  34 - SWRS10: Tie proposal
  35 - SWRS11: Jade Moon
  36 - SWRS12: Defector
  37 - SWRS13: Walker factory
  38 - SWRS14: Victory
  39 - SWRS15: Y-Wing mission
  40 - SWRS16: Victory
  41 - SWRS17: Prisoner decision
  42 - SWRS18: Success
  43 - SWRS19: Prisoner rescue
  44 - SWRS20: Success
  45 - SWRS21: Taleran Raid
  46 - SWRS22:
  47 - SWRS23: Help an escape
  48 - SWRS24: Success
  49 - SWRS25: Protect the hover train
  50 - SWRS26: Kasan meets Seerdon
  51 - SWRS27: Sullust volcano mission
  52 - SWRS28: Victory / Diversion
  53 - SWRS29: Thyferra mission
  54 - SWRS30: Victory / Kasan down
  55 - SWRS31: Thyferra devastators
  56 - SWRS32: Victory / go home
  57 - Start -> Demo game play
  58 - Nintendo 64 / Lucas Arts / Factor5 Logos
  59 - cut

Storyline - 02 - Star Wars Episode 1 Reports
60 - Access Hollywood - Star Wars Extravaganza (1999.01.05)
  61 - AH cut
  62 - AH New Star Wars Secrets
  63 - AH Vanity Fair pictures, Jar-Jar

Storyline - 06 - That '70s Show 'A New Hope' S01E20 (1999.03.14)
64 - That '70s Show 'A New Hope' S01E20 (1999.03.14)
  65 - commercials
  66 - That '70s Show continues
  67 - commercials
  68 - That '70s Show continues
  69 - commercials
  70 - That '70s Show credits
  71 - cut

Storyline - 02 - Star Wars Episode 1 Reports
72 - Entertainment Tonight - Episode 1 set visit - Leonard Maltin interviews Rick McCallum (1999.03.16)
  73 - cut
74 - Entertainment Tonight - (1999.03.17)
  75 - cut
  76 - ET cont.
77 - The Daily Show (w/ John Stewart) - Star Wars The Obligatory Coverage (cut)



DVD_ROM - Video Related - (1.5 Hours)
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Horizons look a ILM and VFX - Part 2 (Matte Painting).webm
Horizons look a ILM and VFX - Part 4 (Ken Ralston  Shot SB19).webm
ILM 1976.flv
Movie Magic Episode 2 - Optical FX Discovery Channel ILM Star Wars Return of the Jedi.webm
Movie Magic Episode 4 - Miniature Pyrotechnics Discovery Channel Cliffhanger Star Wars Terminator.webm
Movie Magic Stop Motion Discovery Channel episode season Star Wars.webm

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#589340
Topic
International Audio (including Voice-Over Translations)
Time

^ Thanks for the first hand concise specifics.  Anything worth noting about the PT?

Have been referring to: http://www.jedi-archiv.de/Video.htm & http://schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=4334040

[the first list many home video releases and the second covers similar territory but expands into the changes between variations and more trivia and details]

 

On the subject of voice over actors, anyone know why for the Japanese dub the cast of SW and ESB were replaced for RotJ?  The RotJ cast would redub the full OT for the SEs: http://www.japanstarwars.com/topics/2006/07/20.html + http://translate.google.com/

There's also possibly some controversy? over the Natsuko Toda created subtitles for TPM, not sure if it was because they changed for the BD or something else.  (it was one of the comments in the PTBD amazon.jp page)

 

Phantom Menace 3D Swedish dub controversy: http://www.thelocal.se/38998/20120208/  Wonder what other TPM3D locations got a new dub?

Hebrew subs of 3D trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FAP2gFsleg

 

Csillagok háborúja- A Birodalom visszavág (1.rész) [Hungarian Voice-Over German ESB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC6-PoHA1mE

VHS Hungarian Jedi voice-over

Star Wars - Csillagok Háborúja: A Jedi visszatér - Narrátoros, hangalámondás

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LwDHmcH6KU

Csillagok háborúja - Egy új remény (eredeti szinkron)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV5E4TtP0Ss

Jedi Visszatér hangalámondásos jelenet VHS - A droidok [83 VHS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFU9YbqnNZw

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeyItsThatVoice

In the Hungarian Star Wars dubs (of which there were many), 1st The Empire Strikes Back dub Emperor is Tarkin in all three A New Hope dubs, also prequel trilogy Yoda. 1st Return of the Jedi dub Emperor is 3rd ROTJ dub Ackbar, and prequel Palpatine. Meanwhile, 1st ROTJ dub Ackbar is The Phantom Menace Darth Sidius (yeah, they thought Sidius and Palpatine were two guys at first, hence the two different actors)!

 

Off topic but interesting possible off shoot - Star Wars: Storm in the Glass:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GagDub

Dmitry Puchkov, also known as "Goblin", is a Russian film translator who is perhaps more famous for his hilarious, Russian pop culture-filled parody dubs (well, voice-overs in this case) of famous English-language movies rather than for his more serious translations. Namely:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Storm_in_the_Glass

Star Wars: Storm in the Glass (Russian: ???????? ?????: ???? ? ???????, refers to operation of Persian Gulf War "Desert Storm"), sometimes translated as Star Wars: Tempest in a Teapot, is a humorous 2004 English-to-Russian movie spoof of the 1999 science fantasy film Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace by popular Russian movie translator Dmitry "Goblin" Puchkov. In dubbing the film into Russian, Puchkov altered the plotline, character names, music, and certain visual effects to provide a different (and funny) experience to Russian-speaking audiences.

 

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#589367
Topic
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
Time

msycamore wrote: I've compared with all known sources and it looks like this was a deliberate change done for the 2004 DVD.

different line of questioning:

I stumbled upon it by accident when matching the aspect ratio of my Technidisc LD against the 2004 transfer.

How close of an alignment between the two are you getting with this?  Are you trying to do the whole movie or just pieces?  Asking as a DIF comparison is on my to do list, but haven't organized enough to find two versions which align in a semi-meaningful way to return an understandable result.

Post
#589357
Topic
Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
Time

This could be an example of EU clarification.  One costume, two characters.  http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Saurin

Two Saurin were at the Mos Eisley Cantina on Tatooine in 0 BBY when Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi came to charter passage off the world.[3] One of the Saurin was Hrchek Kal Fas, a droid trader always on the lookout for cheap droids for sale, even if they were only available on the "invisible market."[32] Although he had come to the desert planet to investigate a possible business relationship with Tatooine's Jawas,[33] he heard news of a reward for two stolen droids, supposedly "close companions" of an Imperial officer. He saw through this cover story, but when he witnessed C-3PO and R2-D2 wander into the cantina, he suspected they might be the droids in question. He tailed them out into the streets of Mos Eisley, but they were nowhere to be seen.[34] The droid trader hired the tall Ranat Nevar Yalnal to do unskilled labor for him.[35] Hrchek Kal Fas also retained the services of his cousin, Sai'torr Kal Fas.[36][37] She was a savvy warrior and combat instructor who took on students she deemed to have the right potential.[38]

Also in 0 BBY, a Saurin was present in the streets of Mos Eisley as the spy Garindan shadowed Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi on their way to Docking Bay 94.[3] Later that year, a Saurin was captured on holofilm in the streets of Mos Eisley and broadcast as part of the Imperial program "Life on Tatooine."[39]

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#589291
Topic
Maul WAS to be Grievous at some point. See Here...
Time

I wasn't commenting on the threads theory, proof or dis-proof.  Your:

Stop overthinking things and try common sense.

Was an attempt to halt the conversation, that's what I was replying against.  (if that wasn't your intentions, then I misinterpreted, been wrong before)  Your first comment about the cgi use is valid and provides an against idea.  Now if someone can check the credits for that scene figure out the animator and send them an e-mail...

Post
#589249
Topic
International Audio (including Voice-Over Translations)
Time

Star Wars on TV in Korea (subbed) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OulPequbwuc

Started looking at the wiki pages for Star Wars in all the different languages.

Chinese : http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars
Entry doesn't translate too well.  Sounds like there was a 1997 translation.  But then a new team did the Episode 1 translation.  An organization called Maxwell BBS was involved.

Russian : http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars

In the USSR, "Star Wars" was first shown in theaters " Horizon "and" Zaryadye "in the" Days of U.S. films in the USSR "in 1988. In 1990, the fourth episode of "New Hope", and then the other two episodes of the classic trilogy are also shown in the USSR [8] [ unauthoritative citation needed ].
In 1997, Russian distributors refused to purchase "Star Wars. Trilogy. Special Edition "for a wide theatrical distribution [9] .
In the Russian television show was first performed channel RTR ("Russia") in 2002 in mono sound . In 2005-2006, on the First Channel broadcast five episodes of "Star Wars" with stereo sound . Interestingly, this channel would show the film in 1992, but the film was removed from the broadcast as a "pirate" [10] .

http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/25726 (1992.10.06)
Sounds like Star Wars was to air on the Ostankino channel but was removed 3 hours before broadcast.  I guess they got a copy and were going to air it but hadn't gotten 20th Century Fox's permission and the government stepped in as then that broadcast would be further pirated.  Little weird in the translation not sure if it was a film festival or a tv network...

http://www.spade.ru/starwarrior/films/rushistory.htm
Russian page on the history of Star Wars in Russia.  Even has pics of the 1988 limited premiere brochure and a 1991 VHS bootleg.  Overview of TV/DVD releases: http://www.spade.ru/starwarrior/films/hexalogy.htm

The prequels are dubbed.  Not sure when the first three got dubbed, either for the SEs or the DVDs.

Japanese : http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars
Theatrical Dub - 1978.06.30 original dub actors
DVD Dub - 2004 new set of dub actors

So this is another case of the Original dub being supplanted.

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Began modifying the first post, added a listing of all the countries which have played the film in theaters, organized by the date of first show.  Next step is to figure out if those countries got a dub or just subtitles and the others who got voice-over translations, or created them.

Polish lektor (reader) or dubingiem

Gwiezdne Wojny Nowa nadzieja cz4 Lektor-1.avi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ4kDxyFbN8
[A commenters post seems like there might be four well respected voice-over translations in Polish]

Gwiezdne wojny cz??? V - Imperium kontratakuje
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEr4L4qtynw

Gwiezdne Wojny Cz??? VI - Powrót Jedi cz. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZDq2ieuEQw

 

The Russian Voice-Overs seem to come in multiple variations and styles.  I guess the Voice-Over people develop a style, some may translate stricter, others may understand english neuances, maybe they're done for specific dialecs.  Gavrilov, Glanz, Kinomania, Mihaleva, Tycoon, Zhivov are some of the players in this field.  Some of these groups/individuals? like the fansubbers of anime create their own subtitles.

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What are you reading?
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The Bizarro Starter Kit

http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/3am-review-the-bizarro-starter-kit/

The Bizarro Starter Kit introduces ten writers from that genre, not a new genre the authors acknowledge, but a new term. The Kit is a joint production between Raw Dog Screaming Press, Eraserhead Press and Afterbirth Books (imprints which are as underground and anti-mainstream as their names suggest), the voices gathered under a rickety Charles Addams-style umbrella are different from each other and the works span short stories to novellas. Bizarro claims it does not “defy categorization so much as deny it”, but there are some distinct styles: the isms (surrealism, magic realism, irrealism, absurdism, metrosexualism) and some self-invented tags (like blender, brutality chronic, “tweaker lit”, “Walronian fiction”, the horrible).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_fiction

 

Counting the days till the next Thursday Next book: "The Woman Who Died A Lot"  (should just order the UK edition... the US release is two months away.)

http://www.jasperfforde.com/subindex/tn7subindex.html