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#151557
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Info: News Report today and tomorrow re Episode III DVD?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151557/action/topic#151557
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Please post about known upcoming tv programs in the "Any Star Wars TV stuff coming up?" thread:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=2&threadid=1977
If your able to capture anything please mention it.
Unfortunately with the new Supreme Court Judge Nominee, I would guess some of the entertainment segments will be bumped. But there's been tons of commercials over the weekend, so maybe the news media will focus some attention on the DVD sales. But i don't think they usually cover a DVD release, but set yr VCR/TiVo/etc. anyway.
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#151337
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SW Line Movies/Documentaries/Films/Shorts/Etc.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151337/action/topic#151337
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Thread to find/discuss the media projects made which focused on the people waiting in line to see one of the Star Wars movies. Expanded to now include any Fan Documentary on the Star Wars communities. and expanded again to add movies which have a Star Wars centric concept or theme.

: SE Lines :
Tatooine or Bust - Web

: TPM Lines :

A Galaxy Far, Far Away - DVD
Star Woids - DVD
NYLine.org - Web - New York
Millennium's End: The Fandom Menace -
The Phandom Menace - Documentary about the Australian fans in the run upto The Phantom Menace.
Star Wars or Bust - Web - Atom Films -
Waiting for Jar-Jar - Web - Atom Films

: AotC Lines :
Star Wait - DVD
NYLine.org - Web - New York
The Phantom Line - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4zWp37ZsyM - Seattle

Talking to People About Star Wars - http://orangecow.org/ffrevolution/ffvideo.shtml


: RotS Lines :
NYLine.org - Web - New York
Lining Up TV - DVD - Hollywood

Beginning of the End - http://www.erikdeutscher.com/BOTE.htm - Online - Hollywood
Jikes! - SW Interviews - Google Video - Newport
Jikes! - SW Premiere - Google Video - Newport
United States of Nooooooo!!! - Web - RedLetterMedia 2005

: Complete Trilogy / Aspects of Fandom :
Galaxy's End: Revenge of the Myth - Documentary made in the run-up to the release of Revenge of the Sith.
George and Me - Heavy handed documentary on the positive side of Star Wars fandumb.
The Force Among Us - Documentary which follows several fans and their different interests in Star Wars.
Heart of an Empire - Documentary on the 501st Star Wars Costuming Fan Group, primarily focusing on the conflicts the creator Albin Johnson went through, and how the fans supported him.
The People Vs. George Lucas - Forthcoming documentary utilizing submitted video, visit site for how you can help.
Thee Backslacpkping With Media - Documediamentary focusing on the media perceptions of Star Wars in the two months before to two months after the release of Revenge of the Sith.

http://www.jedijunkies.com/ - Star Wars has its hundreds of millions of "Star Wars Fans," but there's another kind of fan, one whose appreciation goes well beyond mere admiration for the films and becomes a part of their everyday life.

http://www.theaudiencestrikesback.com/ - Members of a Star Wars line are plucked out to discuss Star Wars.

: Other Movies which have a Star Wars centric theme :
die LUCAS die - Dark comedy/experimental film about a group of friends who plan to visit Skywalker Ranch.
A Great Disturbance - (mocku)Documentary about the 2005 Star Wars Celebration in Indianapolis.
Fanboys - Comedy about a group of friends who plan to visit Skywalker Ranch.
5-25-77 - Comedy about young filmmaker who gets blown away by the original release of Star Wars.

Thanks to the film makers, meedermow, sunday256, Mathiias.

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#151150
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Idea: MAKING A NEW MOVIE OUT OF A VIDEO GAME?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151150/action/topic#151150
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To see what people are creating using video game engines, check out http://www.machinima.com/.

There are some SW machinima out there, there was a dancing Boba Fett video, using the SW Galaxies world. It was a music video in the end, but it showed it could be done, and i would guess it's better then the Yoda DVD vid.

The possibilities are there. Personally i'd love to see any of the video games just captured from beginning to end, i don't have the time or skillz to play them, so watching at double speed should in theory be entertaining. The game world gives you the controls to be a director, figure out an interestng take/subject and i'm sure people will watch.
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#151059
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USCO Reviewing DMCA Anti-Circumvention Clause
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151059/action/topic#151059
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There will be a review of the US's copyright law by the United States Copyright Office (USCO), in relation to the DMCA. If this community wants to find some legitimacy, this is a great opportunity. As some of you know, on CDs/DVDs there are codes implemented to prevent copying. To create Fan Edits using the official release for instance, this mechanism must be circumvented. At the moment this act is illegal, thus squelching our chance to be creative. The USCO is looking for written responses on why this is bad legislation. I've included the official summary from the official USCO website, if interested visit their site for more info.

*** http://www.copyright.gov/fedreg/2005/70fr57526.html ***

SUMMARY:
The Copyright Office of the Library of Congress is preparing to conduct proceedings
in accordance with section 1201(a)(1) of the Copyright Act, which was added by the
Digital Millennium Copyright Act and which provides that the Librarian of Congress
may exempt certain classes of works from the prohibition against circumvention of
technological measures that control access to copyrighted works. The purpose of
this rulemaking proceeding is to determine whether there are particular classes
of works as to which users are, or are likely to be, adversely affected in their
ability to make noninfringing uses due to the prohibition on circumvention. This
notice requests written comments from all interested parties, including representatives
of copyright owners, educational institutions, libraries and archives, scholars,
researchers and members of the public, in order to elicit evidence on whether noninfringing
uses of certain classes of works are, or are likely to be, adversely affect
ed by this prohibition on the circumvention of measures that control access to
copyrighted works.

DATES:
Written comments are due by December 1, 2005. Reply comments are due by February
2, 2006.

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http://www.copyright.gov/fedreg/2005/70fr57526.html

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#150686
Topic
Any Star Wars TV stuff coming up?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150686/action/topic#150686
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With DVDday on the 1st SWTV returns:

*new?* QVC, Thu Oct 27 02:00am EDT
*repeat* Star Wars: Empire of Dreams AETV, Mon Oct 31 08:00pm EST
*repeat* Star Wars: Empire of Dreams AETV, Tue Nov 01 12:00am EST
*repeat* Cinematech G4, Thu Oct 27 06:00pm EDT
*new?* The Incurable Collector BIO, Sun Oct 30 07:00am EST
*repeat* Icons G4, Tue Nov 01 09:30pm EST
*new* Attack of the Show! G4, Thu Nov 03 07:00pm EST (Droidmaker author Michael Rubin)
(most likely AotS will have something SWiey everyday of the week)

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#150516
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"Droidmaker" author NYC tour - Oct 24-26
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150516/action/topic#150516
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Figured I’d give you all a report on the presentation and the book.

The author, Michael Rubin, was part of Lucasfilm from the 70’s to mid 80’s when the significant work happened which lead to the computer/film revolution. He was a member of the team which would teach to prospective filmmakers the ways in which digital editing and sound processing could help their creative process. The book seems to be an indepth look into the minds and times when these creative steps took place. Like the Jobs/Wozniac early days of Apple, this book focuses on the people who moved filmmaking from celluloid to the digital process we’re all familiar with. Since the author has written other how-to books and the presentation has that old computer manual look to it. I think the book covers from the early Lucas/Coppola days to the creation of Pixar in LFL. There’s some interesting photos, where you see the guys with their computers and in the background on one wall are the storyboards for the OT and on the other wall are math formulas and computer code on how to actually get the computer to create renderings and understand THX audio processing. The presentation illustrated how it was the similar aspirations of Lucas/Coppola, to create a filmmaking process which was streamlined and could eliminate the need for big studio. Coppola pioneered HighDef video (which George would later push/use) as Lucas’s LFL team pioneered the digital editing components which shortly after their creation, everyone used. And as everyone used them, their ubiquity became so commonplace they’re now on your desktop.

Some other bits of interest.

To get help from Lucasfilm with your book or project make sure to not reference Skywalking or Empire of Dreams.

On the OT, he agrees that they are Lucas’ to do with as he wishes, but he’s not in favor of some of the changes.

He didn’t have any opinions on fan preservation projects, it didn’t sound like he knew they existed.

Mr. Rubin is of the opinion that Lucas might actually return to his old days and make works of a more experimental nature, maybe even going as far as releasing them under different monikers.

On Ben Burtt's move to Pixar, Burtt seems to have been stuck with the notion of always being an underling. On SW he was initially a gather of sounds, even though he proceeded to make those sounds magic, in the eyes of maybe Lucas and the whole corporate culture, he wasn't able to grow beyond those initial impressions. Now at Pixar, Burtt will be back with some of the people he started working with, the ones who developed the tech. This book explains who some of them are.

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#150259
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"Droidmaker" author NYC tour - Oct 24-26
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150259/action/topic#150259
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This book isn't to be compared with Skywalking from my understanding. Droidmaker's about the creation of digital cinema as George has done. There might be one chapter summarising books like Skywalking or Empire Building for some perspective, but i was expecting this book to focus more on the technological achievements. Maybe a whole chapter on the development of the Dykstra camera, the EditDroid, eventually to Knoll and Coleman's digital triumphs. I was hopeing for a more tech book, something more in line with Cinefex. Not sure, but it looks like many of the pictures from Droidmaker are available in this video:
http://1010tv.com/droidmaker/index.html

At this point to release another biography on Lucas would be a mistake, it's too close to RotS for some perspective. But hopefully someone's typing as we speak, the departure of Burtt should be a fun read. and i still want a good explanation of the Banned from the Ranch folks.
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#150009
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Original Trilogy.com in the Press
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150009/action/topic#150009
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The Bizzle, the DMCA says it's illegal to break the copyright protection on a DVD, but it's also legal to make back up copies. How your able to accomplish this without breaking the first rule is something the law makers haven't figured out yet, and is one of the reasons why the DMCA is bad legislation. In the end though there is the 'Fair Use' clause which can make activities which reuse media legitimate. Prooving Fair Use is at the moment cost prohibitive for most folks which is why there is a Free Culture community who are tryint to figure out ways to change the system. It is ok to reuse DVD material, there just are very few cases at the moment. One group currently getting away with DVD modification is http://www.cleanfilms.com/, these folks buy a DVD then edit out the stuff they don't like then rent the modified DVD to their registered members. Artisticly there is more merit in what happens here then what these folks do. Unfortuantely more people want to watch a movie without the word shit then see a film thematically altered. go figure... So that's a positive. This registered renting method is something this community could move towards.

There is also a campaign to revise copyright laws in the area of Orphanded Works. (http://eldred.cc/) "Orphan works are — broadly speaking — any copyrighted works where the rights holder is hard to find." The Holiday Special and maybe the OT could fall in this category. LFL/FOX will not distribute them anymore, so maybe they could somehow be considered part of the public domain. -s-t-r-e-t-c-h-

Money causes conflict. There are groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org/) who are combating these battles. If you want to support the evolution of laws in the digital age, these folks are someone to think about.
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#149822
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"Like all creative minds, they need to be slapped down!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149822/action/topic#149822
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There's alot of A New Hope flavor in Firefly. For all those people who said they wanted a Han Solo-ish influence in the prequels, i don't understand why they're not getting their browncoat on. Makes me wonder if that was just their excuse to separate themselves from the SW universe. anyway...

The problem I have with your hypothesis tho is it's "Joss Whedon"'s this "Joss Whedon"'s that. (maybe this is just a promotion ideal for the movie) and I haven't delved back into the behind the scenes of the series to see if there are people helping him out. but right now the whole thing is being portrayed as a one man show. ...and after what happens in the movie, it's yet to be seen where the series is going. but right now Firefly was/is awesome, the movie I felt was too short. could have been a much better 5-7 tv show arc spread over a whole season.

as for Lucas, yeah he seems to be missing a few voices behind the scenes to give some ooomph. (but those kind of stories don't usually come out as the movie is being made) It's interesting, in the Ep3 commentary, to hear some negative words come out of f*ck*ng McCallum's voice. he's always so pro-Lucas, but he sorta gets into how certain things didn't work out, weren't working or needed to be dropped (not to his liking sometimes) to get the d*mn movie done. Lucas might have really putzed around more then he did, if no one got on his back to stay on some schedule. Hopefuly some stories out of production staff will give us a sense of how far out into left field Lucas actually was, he had the possibility to do anything (Jar-Jar was going to be a character like a puffin fish at one point), things could have been alot worse. but inthe end it's a different type of story.

As for the prequels, it will be interesting to see what the generation who grew up on them takes with them into adulthood.

SW is Lucas's toy, and he's an adult, how could you convince him that certain things needed to be slapped down?
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#149525
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Original Trilogy.com in the Press
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149525/action/topic#149525
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This article does paint some of our sides of the issue. Unfortuantely with the right twist our actions can easily be portrayed in a negative light. LFL has in some sense come to grips with what we're up to (their absense speaks in a sense), but there are a lot more minds in a company like FOX who might have an axe to swing, and as the fan edits of RotS come out they might make an example of some of us. and you can bet the moisture farm that LFL will not speak on either behalf.

As for the fans agreeing on a version. it might happen but when you get into as the people around here do, isn't there alot of joy in seeing the variations and understanding why they happened? finding one definitive version isn't a concern i've ever had.
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#149426
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Original Trilogy.com in the Press
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149426/action/topic#149426
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Chicago Tribune

`Star Wars' fans seek long, long ago edition

By Joshua Klein
Special to the Tribune

A little more than a year ago, millions of "Star Wars" fans finally got their wish granted with the release of the original "Star Wars" trilogy--"Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi"--on DVD. A vocal minority, however, merely grumbled, since what was sold was not the original trilogy at all but the so-called "special editions," released theatrically in 1997 with added scenes, new special effects and, some might argue, inferior results.

The real original trilogy--which is to say, the versions many fans grew up with--were nowhere to be found.

Short of a change of heart on creator George Lucas' part, the original "Star Wars" films are unlikely to ever appear on DVD, and needless to say, a few weeks before the DVD release of the final "Star Wars" installment "Revenge of the Sith," many fans remain frustrated.

"Look at the DVDs that are out now," says Garrett Gilchrist of Carlsbad, Calif., a 24-year-old film school grad responsible for "Deleted Magic," a remarkable compendium of seldom-seen deleted scenes, alternate takes and outtakes from the first "Star Wars." "They're not getting any respect anymore. These are classic movies that should be preserved, like `Bridge Over the River Kwai' or `Seven Samurai.' Not to get too pretentious about it, but these films should be given a bit of respect so that everyone can enjoy them, not force you to overlook how bad the release actually is."

To that end, some fans have repeatedly attempted to re-create and reconstruct--with home computers, professional software and various releases of Lucas' sci-fi epics, as well as plenty of time and money--their own versions of the director's sci-fi epics. Gilchrist's "Classic Edition" combines elements from the 2004 DVDs and the '93 laserdisc. His close approximation of 1977's "Star Wars" goes so far as to digitally paint out distracting special effects, correct real and perceived errors discovered on the official 2004 DVD versions and feature professional-looking DVD menus. Gilchrist even edited together his own commentary track. He calls his "Classic Edition" the "original" version of "Star Wars," "not the way it was, but the way you remember it." That's keeping in line with Lucas' stated views on film restoration.

"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them," said Lucas, referring to the colorization movement.

That quote is the first thing you see at www.originaltrilogy.com, where fans commiserate over changes Lucas made to their favorite films as well as discuss, attempt and trade remedies. There's also a petition addressed to Lucas.

"Obviously, all the chain-rattling one person on the Internet can do is about as effective as the world's smallest violin," says Justin Bielawa of Connecticut, a Web site regular and friend of Gilchrist. "The question is now what can we do to get him to change his mind."

These homemade "preservations" provide to the unsatisfied (and perhaps unsatisfiable) the next best thing. Yet the proliferation of so many different versions of the films, from Lucas' own to the dozens of bootlegs and ambitious re-creations, shows that a solution may now be impossible.

"I don't know if that'd be possible, due to the many sources of the original trilogy and how differently each person tackles their preservation project," says Rid Hughes of Gloucestershire, England, who has worked diligently on his own laserdisc to DVD transfers of a universally embraced DVD edition. "Everyone has their own idea on how it should look, and they're all different."

Hughes' version of the first "Star Wars" was made from three different laserdisc sources: the U.S. Definitive Collection, the French THX collection and the German THX collection. It's cost him more than 200 British pounds (about $350), "utilizing parts of all three versions to combine them into something I'm happy with."

Ben Payton of Great Falls, Mont., who has embarked with four friends on what he calls the "X0 Project," is a freelance Web designer whose "Star Wars" obsessions drew him to the pricey Pioneer HLD-X0 laserdisc player in hopes of preserving the best possible image.

"It is perhaps the best laserdisc player ever made, and still demands a hefty asking price on eBay--$2,800 last time I checked," he says. "We have centered our preservation around using this player, and the early results are about the best we've ever seen in an LD-to-computer transfer."

"I have had a lot of fun doing what I'm doing, and someday might even like to do something like this for a living," adds Payton, who is serving in the military. "I'd say even if by some miracle Lucas decides to release the original `Original Trilogy' right in the middle of our project, I think I'd still finish it, just to see how well it stacks up to the real thing."

Gilchrist, who recently completed a version of "The Empire Strikes Back" and is pondering attempting "Return of the Jedi", stresses that as angry as fans sometimes seem, this is largely a fun exercise. He also points our that until Lucas makes the original trilogy available again, in its original form, he sees no harm being done.

"The `Classic Edition' was about revisiting a movie that doesn't exist anymore," Gilchrist says. "The movie you're creating is the movie you grew up with, and the movie you want to see again. It gets harder and harder to watch ["Star Wars"] the way Lucas has it now . . . .He's interested in what he can do now, but we're not as interested. And if these films are being ruined, and [his versions are] all that's coming out, then that's no fun."

*EDIT* feel free to move this thread, but i figured most of the article focuses on the activities of this particular board.
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#148429
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"Droidmaker" author NYC tour - Oct 24-26
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/148429/action/topic#148429
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A new book about the evolution of digital film & Lucasfilm is going on tour to promote the book:
"droidMAKER "george lucas and the digital revolution"

"This book ventures in territory never explored, as Rubin-a former member of the Lucasfilm Computer Division-reconstructs the events in Hollywood, in Silicon Valley, and at Lucas' private realm in Marin County, California, to track the genesis of modern media. With unprecedented access to images and key participants from Lucasfilm, Pixar and Zoetrope-from George Lucas and the executives who ran his company, to the small team of scientists who made the technological leaps, Rubin weaves a tale of friendships, a love of movies, and the incessant forward movement of technology. This is a compelling story that takes the reader into an era of technological innovation almost completely unknown."

If your a member of a film company there's a special thing on the 24th, but for the rest of us Oct 25th there's an instore appearance at the Apple Soho store: Store Info
--Apple. 103 Prince Street. SOHO 212-226-3126.
--Meet the Author: 6:30pm

The author travels to Providence, Boston and LA. In LA he'll be recording an episode of Attack of the Show (Nov.1), so those with the G4 channel can check it out.
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#146485
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Help Wanted: a copy of Donald Duck's 50th Birthday special with R2-D2 and C-3PO
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/146485/action/topic#146485
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I got a copy of the "A Tribute to George Lucas" at a comic book convention. It was just raw video, so a copy has been redistributed to get some menus. Quality is not the greatest, looks like a VHS in the back of the crowd. But it's interesting to watch, since GL doesn't do this kinda thing too often. It's got most of the proceedings (i'm assuming), a comic, DV top 10, George Q&A...
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#144517
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STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/144517/action/topic#144517
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Slightly off topic, but at this link which although dated (early 2004), gives a glimpse at other fan preservations happening in the ed2k p2p world. Curious, is the "F.O.R.C.E. (Final Original Released Certified Edition)" one of the fan preservations we now trade under a different name?

http://www.p2ptv.co.uk/878.html Has ed2k files for the complete "History - Joseph Campbell & the Power of Myth" series: Part 1: The Hero's Journey, 02 - The Message of the Myth, 03 - The First Storytellers, 04 - Sacrifice and Bliss, 05 - Love and the Goddess, 06 - Masks of Eternity, xx - Interview with George Lucas.

Also does anyone know where the ripper "xvid-fitty" posts their captures? The name seems to pop up often capturing SW tv programs in some of the major torrent search sites. (for instance: Feel the Force, 60 Minutes, VH1s When SW Ruled)

Can't verify the quality but there's a homemade DVDr with "A&E's Empire of Dreams", "Animal Icons : SW Creatures" & "E!'s Behind the Scenes EpIII".
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