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#165130
Topic
Star Wait - documentary
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165130/action/topic#165130
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LingingUpTv's "Fans Gone Wild!" DVD is great, and there's more insight into the private life of Grimlock for those who can stomach it. There's tons of schenanigans on the disc, in conjunction with the Star Wait and Star Woids you get a very elaborate look into the Hollywood line life. Now we need the NYC liners to make a comparitable dvd. For me the best part of the LUT:FGW! was an interview with two FX guys, about making props and stuff. and yet surrounded by all the line low brow hijinks there are memorable interviews with some of the non-on-camera line fans which give a good overview of the personality types on the line. Personally i love stuff with people yelling at the fans (wish there was more), there are some great clips on LUT:FGW!. Star Wars is Satan!!!!
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#165004
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The Sad State Of Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165004/action/topic#165004
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I don't know but SW right now has a vibracy i've never seen before. It's the fan activities. While the corporate SW side of things is catering towards a wide audience to gather cash, that's what they do, the fans are actively setting up a fan distributed tv network, in a sense, here at the OT.com. There are fan films which are often very exciting and move into topics and ideas which LFL will not touch. LFL will hopefully eventually see what's been done here and set up an in-demand tv channel of somekind, at which point the fan community will move onto something else. It's speculation but those Lucas family toys, i would guess weren't Lucas's idea. Sure he authorized them, but that package sounds like a marketing idea. Lucas has usually kept his family life out of the public eye. There are glimpses of some ingenuity in the SW universe coming from the corporate side, some of the figures have been spectacular, finding them is unfortunately very time consuming. There we're some interseting comics, but they've just about burned out their talent base. SW will lull for a year or two until the tv shows, but that's find, you can't have the amount of material produced this year happen every year. Very few can take that much stuff.

On the Trek side of things... http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3472202
"‘Star Trek’ Captains to Team Up?
The trio will reportedly star in the unnamed film that will be set in the 'mirror universe,' which was featured in both the Next Generation and Enterprise TV series.
An insider tells movie gossip website CanMag.com, "Apparently Shatner was in talks to do a guest role on Enterprise, but it didn't work out. The ideas for the episode will now be incorporated into a movie."

...for me ST should remain dead... alternative realities are a sign of no ideas. My Three Captains sounds horrendous.
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#164646
Topic
DVD-menus... the Van Ling way!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164646/action/topic#164646
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I've never been a fan of DVD menus, they always seem forced, and i just want to get to the content not wade through periferals. But it's fantastic to see the compositional elements pulled out so you can attempt to asorb how they created them. I love the drop down RotJ Rebel Meeting menu composite movie.

And it's nice to hear about those Banned From the Ranch guys. Now that the PTs are over, wonder when they'll start adding their opinions to the public Lucas myth.
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#164464
Topic
Farscape Puppetry use in the Star Wars PT
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164464/action/topic#164464
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For the sake of argument, if they did go with Farscape like puppetry, wouldn't you have gotten the same critic from the public that they all look like Muppets or Men-In-Suits? The first few years of Farscape got that comment before people just stopped paying attention to that aspect of the show.

To convert some of the cgi to puppetry you have to make some sacrifices, what would they have been? Choose a scene.

Personally i don't think George did get as far as his ideas wanted to go. He held back on Jar-Jar. Looking back, i'm conjecturing that if George had gotten his way to make Jar-Jar an inflatable being as was originally speculated then maybe the Jar-Jar story arc wouldn't have been forgotten after TPM. Which could have added to the overall story. The pieces we're there to make the RotS Jar-Jar have a possible emotional final moment. but who knows.

But back to Farscape, Cable-X1, get back to this thread as you watch the show progress, there are various make-up changes to D'Argo, for instance, between some of the early seasons, and then there's all the attached head aliens towards the end of the series. We'll see if you don't start formulating some choice words about the work as you get more familiar with them.

George needed the flexibility of CGI to get these movies to where they ended up because he didn't have the story structure to build upon. He was modifing these stories right up to the end. With all the preproduction which went into these movies, they all suffered from a lack of cohesive substance. Lucas seemed to have a few choice moments well thought out but everything else, to me, was a creative impulse without reflection made at a deadline. Now maybe if the reality drawbacks of certain amounts of time put aside to create the puppets, get the puppet actors to work effectively with the actors on set, could have provided some grounding which could have forced the story into something more cohesive and resonant, but that's grand speculation. Better, could have been, but not definite. More puppets could have made these movies more RotJ-like...

What are the major scenes where individuals interact with digitally created life which you all think would have worked better without cgi.

To give cgi a good name, i don't think the Watto stuff could have been done better any other way. Rygel's a great character but there's something about Watto, which i wouldn't want changed.
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#164444
Topic
Farscape Puppetry use in the Star Wars PT
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164444/action/topic#164444
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Although i agree that much of the Farscape puppetry work is of a higher quality (on the small screen) then what came out in much of the PT, the problem though is that the puppetry has a higher level of difficulty when filming. George, it's been written, is continually evolving the look and storyline itself, puppetry wouldn't allow for him to change things later on, easily. Puppetry is against his prefered method of movie making. What would you all have converted from digital to puppet? Jar-Jar...the Kaminoians...Dexster. (Jar Jar's manerisms would have been greatly reduced, the Kaminoians wouldn't have been able to stand up or walk, but Dexster at least for the close ups at the table would have benefitted greatly) Although i love the Farscape work, and would guess that they could have done it at the HD quality George was up to, to do it in the time allotted would have been very difficult. After 28 years they still couldn't get a working R2 to do what was needed, you think George had the patience for more mechanical contrivances on set... Puppetry on set would either have added a year of production (overall) or reduced the number of 'aliens' available.
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#163661
Topic
Any Star Wars TV stuff coming up?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/163661/action/topic#163661
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New:
Pop Nation - "GI Joe, Tootsie Rolls, Star Wars Collectibles" - DSC, Tue Dec 27 06:00pm EST

Repeats:
When Star Wars Ruled the World - VH1, Fri Dec 16 02:00am EST
Star Wars: Empire of Dreams - AETV, Sun Dec 25 08:00pm EST
Star Wars: Empire of Dreams - AETV, Mon Dec 26 12:00am EST
Icons - "Star Wars Games" - G4, Fri Dec 23 11:00am EST
Icons - "Star Wars Games" - G4, Fri Dec 23 03:00pm EST
X-Play - "Star Wars Celebration" - G4, Sun Dec 25 06:30pm EST
That '70s Show - "A New Hope" - FX, Fri Dec 16 07:00pm EST
True Life - "I Have Embarrassing Parents" - MTV, Sat Dec 17 05:00pm EST
That '70s Show - "A New Hope" - WNYW, Wed Dec 21 12:30am EST
Cinematech - G4, Wed Dec 21 09:30pm EST
Cinematech - G4, Fri Dec 23 03:30pm EST
Cinematech - G4, Sat Dec 24 05:30pm EST
A Dating Story - TLC Dec 26 11:00am
--> "Angela & Shawn" A TV producer and a personal trainer take in a ``Star Wars' exhibit.
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#160501
Topic
Super Star Wars (and 'Super Empire Strikes Back' & 'Super Return Of The Jedi')
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/160501/action/topic#160501
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Anyone know with all the emulators and old games available, are there 'automatic play' sessions being made somehow? what i mean by 'automatic play' is there a way to watch the game complete itself without actually having to play. i personally suck at these games but i'd like to watch it once just to see what was involved to solve these games. I remember hearing about speed rounds of one of the Mario games, is that being done elsewhere?
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#157418
Topic
STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157418/action/topic#157418
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One possible way, the Cohen/MPAA collaboration could affect basic bit torrent is with ISP filtering. There are ISPs in Canada (and probably under the radar in the US) who are throttling torrent traffic. If the new Cohen/MPAA bit torrent protocol has some functionality which distinguishes it'self from the BT we currently use, it'll be easier to filter activities. But as consumers we can drop ISPs which do this. Only time will tell, but there's nothing to get too excited about yet, except getting more content easily, which is a good thing.

I've been wondering what are the possibilities of LucasFilm having an in-demand channel. Everything we're up to here could end up on a system like that.
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#157278
Topic
STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157278/action/topic#157278
Time
slyck.com

Bram Cohen and Dan Glickman to Make Major Announcement

File-sharing and the trade organizations that represent the music and movie industries are two entities not normally associated with cooperation. This notion has been changing recently, especially for the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America.) Looking for a distribution model for licensed material, it has decided to change with the times. Case in point: BitTorrent.

Although BitTorrent is responsible for clogging ISP networks and transmitting a large segment of copyrighted material, the MPAA has eyed this tool as a useful device for its own needs. Looking to provide a legitimate avenue for interested netizens to download movies, the MPAA has recently been in negotiations with Bram Cohen, founder of BitTorrent.

Bram Cohen has managed to steer clear of litigation, unlike his P2P developer brethren. From the very beginning, Bram Cohen has been staunchly opposed to piracy - at least publicly. He has repeatedly stated that BitTorrent is not a tool of piracy, and to use it as such is "stupid."

Bram has intelligently designed the BitTorrent protocol. Unlike conventional P2P networks, the BitTorrent community is not searchable. Independent indexing sites need to be established, otherwise known as trackers, which organize the content of the community (i.e. ThePirateBay.org.) Responding to reports of widespread piracy on BitTorrent, Bram stated to MSNBC:

"If there's widespread copyright infringement, you really want to go after the ringleader. And we're not being the ringleader for that. The Web types that are doing piracy are the ringleaders for that."

With Bram clearly on the record as an opponent of piracy, those interested in distributing legitimate content have taken notice.

To meet this end, Bram Cohen has commercialized BitTorrent. Establishing his once rogue enterprise as a legitimate business has had profound effects. As BitTorrent has become more commercialized, two major events have occurred. First, the MPAA and Bram Cohen entered negotiations on the feasibility of distributing licensed material over BitTorrent. Second, DCM-Doll Capital invested $8.75 million into his newly commercialized business.

His negotiations with the MPAA have gone well. According to an interview with MSNBC, MPAA president Dan Glickman appeared welcoming to Bram Cohen's ideas.

"He seems really interested in what to do next. Everyone knows that things are changing, and I believe he's very interested in adapting. I was really surprised at how if you go to them nonconfrontationally they respond in kind."

In an MPAA press release today, the trade organization stated that Dan Glickman and Bram Cohen are set to hold a press conference tomorrow in Los Angeles at 2pm PST.

"Motion Picture Association of America, Inc. (MPAA) Chairman and CEO Dan Glickman and BitTorrent Founder and CEO Bram Cohen will hold a press conference on Tuesday, November 22th, 2005 at the American Film Institute."

Although the MPAA is not releasing information on the details of this press conference, it’s likely the two will announce the resolution of a deal. If the MPAA does announce a deal with BitTorrent, it will be an enormous step forward for the movie industry. What will mean for the rest of the file-sharing world? The details will be released tomorrow.