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Post: #207077
Topic: Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207077/action/topic#207077
Time: 6-May-2006 3:58 PM

yeah non-LID = 2006 DVD. While we're in this tranistionary terminology phase, are we calling the non-LID "Corporate Preservation".

So what fan edit projects did occur using the LID transfers? Wookie Groomer Splits, Deleted Magic, Building Empire, __?__.

What we're the promising/interesting fan edit projects which we're proposed? I was looking forward to the foreign language WWII audio track for ANH, and someone was going to cut the PT (as flashbacks) into the OT.
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Post: #206996
Topic: Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206996/action/topic#206996
Time: 6-May-2006 10:41 AM

What if the non-LID Project does not provide all the material in suitable quality to make the OT you remember? Does that make the non-LID-p a failure? Are there any SW moments which you think will not show up in the non-LID Project?
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Post: #206862
Topic: Info: OriginalTrilogy.com to shut down
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206862/action/topic#206862
Time: 5-May-2006 9:41 PM

Someone's getting paid by the post. It suits you well funny man.

but to feed this furvor with some uncorroborated schlock, search out the domain renewal date!!!!! 17 and counting. ooooooooo.
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Post: #206692
Topic: Info: A CALL TO ARMS FOR THE X0 PROJECT! (was: A SPARK OF HOPE...)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206692/action/topic#206692
Time: 5-May-2006 10:32 AM

I'm looking forward to the X0 Project. I'm of the opinion that the members working on the X0 have a respect for the films and that they will produce a preservation which will shine because of they understand the material. All the preservation projects have their +/-, but to adequately discuss them you need to see them, I look forward to watching. Take your time, do it the way you think is appropriate, with the resources you've got.
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Post: #206687
Topic: Original Trilogy.com in the Press
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206687/action/topic#206687
Time: 5-May-2006 10:10 AM

Weird press skq3w:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/movies/bal-to.starwars05may05,0,6751722.story?coll=bal-artslife-movies

The move is a direct response to popular demand, according to Lucasfilm spokesman John Singh. "The biggest question we've ever gotten from Star Wars fans is, 'When are you going to release the originals?' A Web site called originaltrilogy.com, in the last year alone, gathered 72,000 signatures asking for their release. We love that passion."

Somethings odd with the wording/paraphrasing but if John Singh is saying incorrect things about OT.com, they're either using this as a marketing ploy (which they figure no one will check to see if the facts are correct), or they just don't care or they are watching and we'll have to wait to see how their lackies respond.
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Post: #206323
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206323/action/topic#206323
Time: 4-May-2006 1:15 PM

Maybe someone's got a good memory, but there was at least one video clip last year, where George said he would not rerelease the OT. Anyone know where to find a copy of that clip? I think it might have been in an interview during the AFI tribute.

Also please post any old articles which state that George will not release the OT on DVD. I think there we're some articles in early 2003.
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Post: #205050
Topic: Help Wanted: compiling the Lego Star Wars releases - Help Needed
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205050/action/topic#205050
Time: 29-Apr-2006 4:03 PM

I haven't downloaded it, but on mininova, there is something called "Kalak's Lego Star Wars Speed Run". "Speed Run"s are video captures of someone playing a video game to completion as fast as possible. There used to be blog posts about Mario Bros. speed runs and other old video game speed runs which found renewed interest because of emulators. (also the speed run terminology came about because you could play the game in the emulator at a faster speed because of modern cpu power) If this is what I think it is, this would make a great addition to a Lego DVD.

Speed Run videos of all the SW games (via emulators) would make a superb set. nudge nudge wink wink I'd watch them because i suck at video games and would love to see how the games played out.
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Post: #205031
Topic: Idea: a 'Three' tv series to movie edit...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205031/action/topic#205031
Time: 29-Apr-2006 12:17 PM

Yeah this was a decent show. I've also been looking for it as well. The three main actors all moved onto other good shows. (the lady ended up on Ed and the con guy was the main actor in the Invisible Man show, right?) Might want to ask about it over at myspleen, they are more into tv shows.
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Post: #203128
Topic: Watched Star Trek II on HBO the other day, what a difference in effects compared to the OT!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/203128/action/topic#203128
Time: 20-Apr-2006 11:01 PM

http://droidmaker.com/ the book about the early stages of computer aided film work at ILM. (pg 241-257)
[here's a very abbreviated version of the story]
At the time computer animation wasn't part of ILM proper. They we're an advanced unit working on future projects. (to put things in perspective, they had just created the concept and initial implementation of alpha channels) So ILM had the contract to do the FX for ST2, and at first the computer division was not expected to help out. But they we're asked to help envision the computer interface design, and after reviewing what shots still needed to be done, decided that they would like to give the Genisis Effect a try. (The animation is 1,621 frames - 67 1/2 seconds) They had hired a guy (Loren) recently who had done fractal landscapes and camera work. (the computer allowed for a more dynamic fly through, not as easy to accomplish with models) Another member of the team (Reeves) invented particle animation, which became another important compositional element in the Genesis Effect. Motion Blur was also refined as a process and implemented in the FXs. All this work was being done on VAX computers. Also keep in mind there was no way to output the final animation, since laser printers didn't exist. Instead they filmed each frame (off a monitor) with a 35mm camera. Frames to render, took between 5 minutes to 5 hours. The mountains took a month of full-time rendering. (i think work on the sequence started in late 81 and was finished in April 82)

Most likely if it wasn't for the Genesis Effect proof of concept the computer generated shot in RotJ (Death Star/Endor) would have been done in a different way.

there's tons more in the chapter but that's the basics, great book, worth getting. Don't believe me read the reviews by Ben Burtt and Alvy Ray Smith (Co-Founder of Pixar) amazon.com Droidmaker page
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Post: #202831
Topic: Info: the Galactic Trade Federation website
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202831/action/topic#202831
Time: 19-Apr-2006 10:34 PM

I'm on a Mac as well and have similar results to Kaal-Jhyy with Netscape. The odd thing about Netscape, is that the links pop out into a new window. Netscape cuts the link images in half, might want to increase the frame sizes. (things vary between mac and pc and browsers)

Looking through the coding, some of the <frameset> values you have in quotes and others you don't.

I find it sometimes helps to indent subset commands.
for instance:
<frameset rows="A,B">
_____<frame src A> (OT.com deleted the tab spacing, so i've replaced them with underscores)
_____<frame src B>
</frameset>

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Post: #202828
Topic: Info Wanted: The Legality of Fan Projects
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202828/action/topic#202828
Time: 19-Apr-2006 10:13 PM

tlbauerie, Rikter posted that CleanFlick members are buying a copy of the film (DVD) and paying an additional fee for the edited version (DVDr). Rental places like Blockbuster buy copies of the films. So that form of compensation has been agreed upon, between those companies.

The debate by directors against CleanFlick-like companies, is that the director's vision is violated by these companies, and if the people who rent the movies have any respect for artistic merits, they should not rent movies from these kind of companies.

Here's the Soderbergh clip from the Bleep! doc on SW fan edits:
http://noneinc.com/tteesstt/Bleep004.mov

I don't understand why CleanFlick members feel they need to consume media which they object to on any level. The world has so much stuff in it, why waste so much time focusing on this 'crap'. In "It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World" there's a great quote about the United States and breasts, and unfortunately the quote is just as relevant today as it was in 1963. That's depressing....
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Post: #202678
Topic: Info Wanted: The Legality of Fan Projects
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202678/action/topic#202678
Time: 19-Apr-2006 10:20 AM

In the "Bleep" documentary, Steven Soderbergh (sp?) mentions Star Wars Fan edits. (thanks Rikter for the heads up)

As for those Clean Films-like peoples, they operate sorta like a Blockbuster. I'm not sure of the specifics (i'm against the idea of lazy individuals who feel compelled to "keep up with the jonses" but need those works sanitized to fit their limited sensibilities, but i'm all for the modification of films to fit alternative viewpoints) but I think you buy a copy of the film through them and they rent you the sanitized version. So your buying a copy and paying/renting for the edits. They've got special equipment which doesn't modify the original DVD (that's an obvious DMCA violation [anti-circumvention, which is a whole nother stupid legality]), they've got a special program which skips and does simple transitioning live.

Rikter, can you fit your uncompressed "Sanitied for Stupidity" versions on a CD?

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Post: #202660
Topic: Info Wanted: The Legality of Fan Projects
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202660/action/topic#202660
Time: 19-Apr-2006 8:44 AM

The l337 RotS trailer, was the exact RotS trailer (audio and visuals) with additional subtitles in l337 sp33k underneath. I think Lucasfilm's lack of understanding of l337 sp33k was the reason for it's requested removal. It looked like a duck but they couldn't understand it's quack so might as well get some free press and ask for it's removal.

Sluggo's mention of pr0n, brings back to mind how Lucasfilm did go after the anime porn "StarBallz"
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/Pf/0,1527,9055,00.html
(Yet other SW inspired pr0n like Sex Wars (80s) and Spaced Nuts (00s) did not draw attention.)

The interest in Fan Edits and Fan projects is fairly dim (cultural attention wise) at the moment.

The concept of manipulating movies is still fairly new. Interest in modified trailers has become more and more blog worthy, instead of just being fun for the editor community. It's not illegal to edit someone elses movie. Fair Use is a broad statement which needs to be backed in court, if questioning of the validity does occur, but that doctrine could grant any of these projects as ok, under the right circumstances. Collage and Transformative Reuse, are ways to progress culture, if we let organizations take those methods away from creators and the creative process, society suffers. There is only some black and white after a court case, until then the world is shades of grey. The creators have to decide for themselves where they draw the line. Then if organizations like Lucasfilm or the MPAA complain, you can either agree with their actions and remove the material from the public conscious or stand up for reason why you created the project, some advancement of understanding of the material.

It's going to be interesting when a fan project creator does make a stand on their project and charges $ for it. It'll be interesting to see how this community deals.

After that there might be fan edits of fan edits. Disney didn't make up the story of Steam Boat Willie, it was a live action movie just a few years before. But society has fairly convincingly supported that form of creativity. I can't invision the project yet, but there might be a reason why the MPAA and others decide to clamp down on the fan edit community. It's a public opinion no-no though to sue the creative actions of a fan editor, it's just not good press when you think about it. How would you spin it? As for projects like DM and BE, only if Lucasfilm was going to do a similar release would it be worth clamping down. Maybe if the fan edits come out too close to release dates, that might spark some actions. It's something to think about periodically but don't dwell on it, waste your time by being creative instead.

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Post: #202553
Topic: Info Wanted: The Legality of Fan Projects
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202553/action/topic#202553
Time: 18-Apr-2006 10:25 PM

Some memorable moments in SW Legality:

In the early 80s, after watching SW Rip Offs appear across the globe, i think something happened but can't find any stories of Lucasfilm cases online? (I thought i remember reading about them going after the Brazilian SW, but now i can't find that link)
Thinking about it some more, i'm probably mixing up the copyright infringement case Lucasfilm brought against the makers of Battlestar Galactica.
As already mentioned the Phantom Edit draws tons of media attention to the concept of fan edits.
Lucasfilm's spoiler policy conflicts with websites, T'Bone's "http://starwarz.com/tbone" has several editorials on the battles.
Lucasfilm endorses the parody segment of fan film culture.
Lucasfilm through a DMCA Cease & Desist, got the l337 RotS trailer removed:
http://nuar.lunarpages.com/video/SW_mirrors.htm
The MPAA successfully prosecuted the leak of Revenge of the Sith.
Lots of creative projects here at the OT.com and beyond seem to have been made and distributed without any "legal entaglements".
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Post: #202067
Topic: Yet even more SW Inspired Music : "Yoda Pop"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202067/action/topic#202067
Time: 17-Apr-2006 8:13 AM

yodapop.gnu.nu

So far there's two songs, "Show-Bacca" and "I'm Luke"... Dance Pop, seems to be their classicification.
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Post: #201442
Topic: Info Wanted: Episode II on HBO in HD & Alternate Versions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/201442/action/topic#201442
Time: 15-Apr-2006 10:41 AM

Most of the activities going on at the OT.com are undefined legally. The obvious copyright infringement like making one-to-one exact copies of releases is not encouraged, but the transfering of outdated and unavailable materials is appreciated. The later has few court cases to prove it's legal status. As for fan edits, the closest thing to a legal court battle, was the case of Clean Films, a religous organization who's members would buy copies of various films, and the chosen few would edit out material they thought the flock wouldn't like, and the paying members would rent those edited copies to watch. But that case was against a business, we're just individuals here. It's all shades of grey.
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Post: #201297
Topic: Info: Whats on Your Shelf????
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/201297/action/topic#201297
Time: 14-Apr-2006 7:26 PM

http://noneinc.com/tteesstt/SWDVD-Offs.jpg

That's right, not only Turkish Star Wars (Dunyayi Kurtaran Adam), but Brazilian Star Wars (Os Trapalhoes na Guerra Dos Planetas), Italian Star Wars 1 (The Humanoid), Italian Star Wars 2 (Star Crash), Japanese Star Wars 2 (Space Wars [One of the Best Space War Films Ever]), Star Worms II : Attack of the Pleasure Pods (that title can't be a coincidence), and yes Japanese Star Wars 1 (Message From Space: Galactic Wars [Uchu Kara No Messeji]). But just when you thought you didn't want to see more, that's right:
The Official Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith AOL 1175 Hours Free (for 50 days) CD.
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Post: #201030
Topic: Info: Greedo subtitles font...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/201030/action/topic#201030
Time: 13-Apr-2006 10:14 PM

Darth Editous Wrote:

it is the thread you're looking for

"Disabled person must solve"
See the story is true from a skew'd point of view.
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Post: #200193
Topic: Upload 8 (RotS) Sentencing - April 12th
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/200193/action/topic#200193
Time: 11-Apr-2006 11:26 PM — Edited 25-Dec-2019 12:00 PM

http://losangeles.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel06/la012506usa.htm

All seven of the defendants who pleaded guilty yesterday face up to one year in prison. They are all scheduled to be sentenced by United States Magistrate Judge Carla Woehrle on April 12\

That’s tomarrow, if anyone sees any reports please post.

One of the main guys was to be sentenced on March 6th, but i haven’t been able to find that outcome.
Weird that “Empire of Dreams” is rerunning on AETV tomarrow also…
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working archived link - http://web.archive.org/web/20061209150804/http://losangeles.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel06/la012506usa.htm

Post: #198904
Topic: SWKid Settlement
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198904/action/topic#198904
Time: 7-Apr-2006 8:27 PM

Vague report about the possible end to the Star Wars kid saga.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060407.wxstarwars07/BNStory/National/home

Mr. Raza and his parents this week reached an out-of-court settlement with the families of three former schoolmates they had sued for $351,000 in damages.
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No one would comment yesterday about the settlement, including whether it included monetary compensation.

However, previous proceedings in the case had included discussions about whether the families of the three defendants had liability insurance.

The families of the three defendants have varying financial situations, court documents suggest. Mr. Caron's court filings include a letter from an insurer refusing to provide liability insurance coverage, whereas Mr. Laflamme says in his examination that his father had savings of $500,000 from an inheritance.

Post: #198901
Topic: DVD Cover When Star Wars Ruled The World
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198901/action/topic#198901
Time: 7-Apr-2006 8:16 PM

Over at Myspleen is "BLAK0046 The Ultimate Star Wars DVD-Rom II" DVD. It's got lots of covers. The one your looking for is called "Angrysun - When SW ruled by Segaflip.jpg"
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Post: #197983
Topic: Info Wanted: Episode II on HBO in HD & Alternate Versions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197983/action/topic#197983
Time: 4-Apr-2006 11:20 PM

StarWarsFan1976 in the options/preference section of your profile, turn on the Private Messages option.
at which time you'll be asked to remove the direct link to the torrent, so might as well take care of that now.

http://atmorgen.com/ has a sample.
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Post: #197935
Topic: Info Wanted: Episode II on HBO in HD & Alternate Versions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197935/action/topic#197935
Time: 4-Apr-2006 7:36 PM

The Attack of the Clones 1080i (Star Wars Attack of the Clones.0000.ts [0001 & 0002] ~11.43gb) makes appearances in the newsgroups. (a.b.sw, a.b.hdtv)

In Germany they are playing the PT in a form of HD, but the compression seems to be in a format where hardware to record is scarce. Previous discussions on the German HDs:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=4949
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=4624&highlight_key=y&keyword1=hd

Revenge of the Sith has been "On Demand" since the beginning of the year in what i'm assuming is HDTV, haven't heard any reports of differences in this version.
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(rev'd OT to PT)

Post: #197229
Topic: Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197229/action/topic#197229
Time: 1-Apr-2006 2:52 PM

Welcome to yet another Unwanted Convention Update:

Seems that there are now two more bootlegger covers:
The First is mostly black, it's got Vader on the cover, front and center, and keeps the DM logo which is over Vader. The back has a revised description which keeps a mention of Garrett. The guy who was selling it was from Los Angeles, so we'll call this the West Coast Cover.

The Second (Let's call it East Coast) has has a blue and copper/brown motif (because of the poor quality of the print out). It's most likely the "Official Star Wars Fan Club 20th Anniversary" Poster. (Poster Book pg.215) The back has a revised description with no mention of Garrett.

The old cover with the dewback is still around.

I had some conversations (polite and confrontational) with these folks and asked them to at least send Garrett a copy of their cover for his collection...
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Post: #197192
Topic: April Fools SW Stories
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197192/action/topic#197192
Time: 1-Apr-2006 9:23 AM

http://slashdot.org/articles/06/04/01/065202.shtml

"In a first-of-its-kind move, George Lucas has announced that Lucasfilm and 20th Century Fox will offer free 'replacement DVDs' to anyone who mails in pre-Special Edition VHS and Laserdisc copies of Star Wars episodes IV, V, and VI by April 30th. From the press release: 'This unique opportunity will help fans experience the complete and correct vision of my epic story.'"