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#600253
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George Lucas' "Vision"
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^ Larry Cuba did that early CGI work: http://motionographer.com/2008/03/31/larry-cuba-star-wars-computer-animation/

[thanks Fox for blocking the video, the youtube account is the official Electronic Visualization Laboratory (EVL)…]  here’s a backup version:

http://www.movieweb.com/movie/star-wars-episode-iv-a-new-hope/making-of-the-computer-graphics-for-star-wars

 

Mod Edit: a working link to article linked above can be found here:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20110727043034/http://www.movieweb.com/movie/star-wars-episode-iv-a-new-hope/making-of-the-computer-graphics-for-star-wars
 

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#600071
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Tobar wrote: Star Wars Opening Day 1977. Were you there?

Here's how the rumors get recycled:

My brother told me that the "ORIGINAL" Star Wars theatrical release was actually a 10-15 minutes longer than what is considered the original release. He said the studio sent out the shorter release after the first weekend. The studio wanted more screenings per day.

Otherwise, Good to see outside interest in the general conversation here.  Hopefully the idea will get recycled for other locations.

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#599981
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Original Theatrical Versions
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point5 wrote: I do still have some trouble understanding why some movies that were made much earlier than Star Wars do seem to have better quality DVD releases than Star Wars.

You'll have to be more specific what release you are talking about.  If you are comparing things to the 2006 GOUT Bonus DVD, that's not a good reflection of the possibilities of the DVD format.

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#599919
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Original Theatrical Versions
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point5 wrote: Were the LD trilogy released in the same format as GOUT, i.e. letterbox or whatever?

More or less Yes, the term you are looking for is anamorphic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic The GOUT represents probably the best digitization of the laserdisc's source film scans.  (laserdisc is an analog format)  Your zooming problem maybe because of the hardware/software you are using.  But the GOUT and laserdisc transfers don't have the resolution for close inspection that we're accustomed to with HD formats.  This was not a limitation of the scanning equipment (the film was digitized for shots of the 1997 SE), but a limitation of home video at the time.

Here's a chart of display resolutions.  GOUT/LD is the red PAL (768x576) [HD starts at 1280x720]

The 2011 BluRays are at HD1080 (1920x1080).  The PT was shot in the 2K range.  Non-special effect shots of the OT could be in the 4K range.

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#599734
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Original Theatrical Versions
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Much of this depends on your interpretation of what 'Original Theatrical' means.  These films have been tinkered with consistently since they were released.

The quick answer most people go to is the 2006 DVD release Bonus discs.  These were officially released by Lucasfilm: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Two-Disc-Widescreen-Theatrical/dp/B000FQJAIW They are a variation of the movie before the 1997 Special Editions.  They are referred to around here as GOUT.  'George's Original Unaltered Trilogy'  The source of the GOUT is the 1993 laserdisc transfer.

Next is teh start of investigating the longer answer.  Which for people like me, is there is no definitive Original Theatrical version of any of the movies.  There are variations.  People's values then add weight to which variation should exist on the version they like to watch.  So if you want to get into it, it's now about learning what the variations are, where/when they existed and there's a debate there after which gets into what "most" people saw back then.

Star Wars was released immediately in different forms.  Mr. Coate has a great article on the subject: http://www.in70mm.com/news/2003/star_wars/index.htm

Variations in the soundtrack presentations of "Star Wars" can be traced to the multiple mixes that were prepared to accommodate the different formats the movie would be released in:

(1) 35mm two-track (four-channel) Dolby Stereo
(2) 70mm Six-Track Dolby Stereo
(3) 35mm Academy mono.

Another SW sound article to read is: http://www.wideanglecloseup.com/starwarsaudio.html

And another Mr. Coate article about SW in '77: http://www.fromscripttodvd.com/star_wars_a_day_long_remembered.htm

 

What brought about this interest in the OT? 

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#599695
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Making of a Saga: From Star Wars to Jedi - subtitle help
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Automated Subtitles in Adobe After Effects and Premiere CS4 and up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LAnZPDUOiI

Using the analyze content feature in Premiere we get a rough text copy of speech inside of a video, then we make adjustments to it in Premiere to fix incorrect transcriptions. Once we have that After effects with a script provided in the comment below will automatically display the subtitle on the video for you.

 

Stumbled upon this, didn't realize this was possible with home software.

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#599377
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The 1997 OT Special Edition Trilogy Preservation Standards Thread (* unfinished *)
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Hummm, my mistake, not sure why i'm attributing them to Flunk.  Re-reading around, can't find an origin name.  They're LD rips:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Newsgroups-Availability-of-the-Moth3r-DVDs/post/448318/#TopicPost448318

http://binsearch.info/?q=Starwars-4.5.6.AC3.5.1.WS.LaserDisc.Xvid&max=100&adv_age=1100&server=

*EDIT*

the oldest thing i'm finding is a 2004 ed2k link:

http://hardwired.hu/forum/forum.phtml?area=comment&id=7953&p=46

 

In 2008 Max_Rebo had a 97 SE project, should be some good info in there:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Max-Rebos-97-SE-superset-preservation/topic/9031/

This is interesting:

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#599280
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Last movie seen
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I do not recommend Looper.  Suffers from a split, whether it came from the production side or the script side, it doesn't help.  First half is a time travel movie then the second half the budget disappeared and it's a family drama set in a farm house.  Where the drama is a different sci-fi cliche, but completely undeveloped.  There must have been a committee running this show.

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#598949
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STENDEC's Hybrid SE (part-finished project?)
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STENDEC wrote: Secondly, I have the SE laserdisc boxset as well. Does anyone know if those transfers have missing frames too or was that purely an issue with the digital broadcasts?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-1997-Star-Wars-Special-Edition-Trilogy-Preservation-Standards-Thread-Work-In-Progress/post/597884/#TopicPost597884

The process starts with Lee Thorogood's.  Compared to that release are TB, Flunk.iso, G'Kar and the 2004. The public version can be edited by anyone.  Besides the opening and end credits, Lee's and the 2004 seem like a lock.  The other three have issues here and there.

SWSE-v001.1: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtjXdIjRQo5NdDdXY1IwZ0JJcnBhbHhBd2ZRMWNmMUE#gid=4

SWSE-v001.1-public: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtjXdIjRQo5NdFhSaGVfYVdlRlpnTHlvVk53Q3R0R1E#gid=5