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This seems to be a typical business practice.  I know in my past career, the person footing the bill for a new building would often push costs from one job to another.  The movie industry is no different.  And when it comes to grudges that's the easy accounting to send a message.

Here's a recent case:

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=18219&count=0

Deadline got its hands on profit statement for "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," the 2007 Warner Bros movie which grossed $938 million in worldwide ticket sales on a $150 million budget. But if you take a look at the statement below, the studio claims that the film actually lost $167 million.

TV's Frink wrote:

none said:

What a hilariously awesome picture!  Looks like he's on a Star Wars version of Mystery Science Theater 3000.

 

Well someone told about his manoeuvre at the battle of Endor, and bingo-bango, Emperor Lando.

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Question: Assumed this final television broadcast would have been done from previous airings.  Don't know if the Star Wars movies were ever in Widescreen on any of the pay cable services like HBO.  Noticed what look like rips in two consecutive frames:

So am wondering, since production of the Special Edition was happening, could this widescreen broadcast have been a new capture of the raw movies before going through the preservation work done for the Special Editions?

Answer: Darth Mallwalker points out that these marks have been around since the early home laser discs.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-THE-ULTIMATE-EXPERIENCE-Television-Preservation-Set-In-Production/post/424660/#TopicPost424660

//// Description ////
Three DVD9 Set + 1 bonus disc DVD5
SWUE01 - Star Wars + The Making of Star Wars w/ Bonus Star Wars Commercial Breaks
SWUE02 - The Empire Strikes Back + The Making of The Empire Strikes Back w/ Bonus Star Wars Commercial Breaks
SWUE03 - The Return of the Jedi + From Star Wars to Jedi: The Making of the Saga w/ Bonus Star Wars Commercial Breaks
SWUE04 - Billy Dee Williams Hosting Segments ONLY Bonus Disc (Would like to add the Carrie Fisher hosting segments)

SWUE01 - Contents

>>> Commercial Breaks = 20

::: Play Options
>>> 5:18:15:10 = All
>>> 4:23:05:24 = (SW) + (MoSW) + (SWCB) + (BDW)
>>> 3:50:46:22 = (SW) + (MoSW) + (OC) + (BDW)
>>> 3:07:26:27 = (SW) + The Making of Star Wars (MoSW) + (BDW)
>>> 2:11:14:21 = (SW) + (BDW)
>>> 2:01:26:08 = Star Wars (SW)
>>> 1:16:39:27 = Star Wars Commercial Breaks (SWCB) [.Semi Hidden.]
>>> 0:54:12:19 = Original Commercials (OC) [.hidden.]
>>> 0:10:28:13 = Billie Dee William Hosting Segments (BDW) [.Semi Hidden.]

::: SWUE01 Presentation Order
20th Century Fox Television Logo
Sci-Fi Channel TV Schedule

SW Break 01 = Bits From:
1977.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Star Wars Interviews
1983.10.05 - Star Wars Television Premiere - Japan
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Early Marketing Introduction (Beginning)
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show
1984.02.16 - Star Wars Television Premiere - CBS - WJKW-TV Cleveland Newscenter 8 - Special Movie Intro
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show
197x.xx.xx - Academy Awards - Alec Guinness Honorary Oscar
1983.10.05 - Star Wars Television Premiere - Japan
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Early Marketing Introduction (Ending)

Billy Dee Williams - Intro
Star Wars Movie - Opening thru droid purchase

SW Break 02 = Bits From:
1979.xx.xx - Star Wars Drunk Driving Public Service Announcement
1984.02.16 - Star Wars Television Premiere - CBS - How many times have you seen Star Wars?
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Early Bird Certificate Package Commercial
1978.xx.xx - Star Wars Smoking Public Service Announcement

Billy Dee Williams - New Mythology for the Space Age
Star Wars Movie - twin suns thru R2 runs off

SW Break 03 = Bits From: 1977.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Action Figures - R2-D2, Darth Vader, C-3po
1978.xx.xx - Majik Market Star Wars Cups Commercial
1984.02.16 - Star Wars Television Premiere - CBS - Crowds
1977.xx.xx - Burger Chef Star Wars Poster Commercial
1977.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Star Wars Interviews - Mark Hamill
1978.11.17 - The Star Wars Holiday Special - Bumper
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Early Marketing Package

Billy Dee Williams - Cast
Star Wars Movie - Lars homestead thru Vader choke

SW Break 04 = Bits From:
1977.05.xx - Burger King Star Wars Glasses Commercial
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Land Speeder Commercial
197x.xx.xx - Star Wars Trumpet Solo
1977.xx.xx - Gene Schallet Interviews - Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill & Carrie Fisher
197x.xx.xx - Anthony Daniels interviewed by Bob Wilkins???
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Land of the Jawas Playset Commercial

Billy Dee Williams - Model Making
Star Wars Movie - destroyed sand crawler thru Mos Eisley

SW Break 05 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Patrol Dewback Commercial
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Marketing Video - Star Wars Is Forever
1978.xx.xx - CBS Friday Bumper - The Star Wars Holiday Special
1982.xx.xx - Ask ONTV
1982.xx.xx - Star Wars Premiere - ONTV Pay Channel - WSNS TV44 Chicago
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Creature Cantina Playset Commercial
1983.xx.xx - HBO Promo - Star Wars Next Month On HBO

Billy Dee Williams - George Lucas
Star Wars Movie - cantina thru Han shoots Greedo

SW Break 06 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - HBO Promo - Next On : Star Wars - Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Luke Skywalker X-Wing Pilot, R5-D4, Greedo Commercial
1977.xx.xx - NBC Special Richard Pryor - Star Wars Bar
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Large Size Action Figures - Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Chewbacca
1983.xx.xx - Star Wars Premiere - HBO Introduction & Intro

Star Wars Movie - Leia resists thru Luke's first test

SW Break 07 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Light Saber Commercial
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Marketing Video - Star Wars Is Forever
1984.02.16 - Star Wars Television Premiere - CBS - Toy Family
198x.xx.xx - Star Wars Premiere - ITV Tonight 7.15

Billy Dee Williams - Now back to SW
Star Wars Movie - She lied thru Luke, Han and Chewie leave 3po & R2

SW Break 08 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Imperial Troop Transporter Commercial
198x.xx.xx - Star Wars Premiere - 'First Time On Television' Channel 10 - Sponsored by General Electric
198x.xx.xx - Starcade - Star Wars Video Game
1977.xx.xx - ABC Friday Promo - The Making of Star Wars & Curse of the Black Widow

Billy Dee Williams - Merchandise
Star Wars Movie - DS rescue thru compactor

SW Break 09 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Anthony Daniels interviewed by Bob Wilkins???
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Death Star Space Station Playset Commercial
197x.xx.xx - Hagoromo Tuna Commercial
1977.xx.xx - Donny & Marie - Crawl
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Marketing Video - Star Wars Is Forever
1984.xx.xx - Star Wars Premiere - CBS Special Movie Public Broadcast

Billy Dee Williams - Sound FX
Star Wars Movie - Ben's DS task thru DS escape

SW Break 10 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Mini-Action Figure Collector's Case Commercial
1979.xx.xx - Star Wars Re-Release TV Commercial
1978.xx.xx - The Star Wars Holiday Special - CBS Special Presentation
197x.xx.xx - French TV Star Wars Dance Number
198x.xx.xx - Starcade - Star Wars Video Game - Crawl
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Figures - Stormtrooper, R2-D2, C-3po, Han Solo
1984.xx.xx - CBS Bumper - Star Wars

Billy Dee Williams - Another Blast of SW
Star Wars Movie - Tie fight thru get away

SW Break 11 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Escape From Death Star Board Game Commercial
1983.10.05 - Star Wars Television Premiere - Japan
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars X-Wing Aces Target Game Commercial
1984.02.16 - Star Wars Television Premiere - CBS - George Lucas Interview
198x.xx.xx - Star Wars Premiere - ITV Intro

Star Wars Movie - Yavin thru DS battle take off

SW Break 12 = Bits From:
1984.02.16 - Star Wars Television Premiere - CBS - Awards
1977.xx.xx - Academy Awards - Best Editing Oscar : Paul Hirsh, Marcia Lucas, Richard Chew
197x.xx.xx - Academy Awards - Honorary Oscar : Alec Guinness
1983.xx.xx - Showtime's Bill Harris Interviews Mark Hamill
1977.xx.xx - Academy Awards - Best Original Score : John Williams
197x.xx.xx - Academy Awards - Honorary Oscar : Alec Guinness
1984.02.16 - Star Wars Television Premiere - CBS - Waiting in line
197x.xx.xx - Star Wars TV Commercial - Japanese Subs
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show

Billy Dee Williams - Intergalactic battle sequences
Star Wars Movie - Report in thru return from battle

SW Break 13 = Bits From:
1978.11.17 - The Star Wars Holiday Special - Bumper
1978.11.17 - The Star Wars Holiday Special - Alien Commercial
197x.xx.xx - Star Wars TV Commercial
1987.xx.xx - Today Show - Star Wars Feature
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars X-Wing Fighter & Tie-Fighter
1984.xx.xx - Star Wars Video Trailer - Available on Videocassette
1977.xx.xx - ABC Promo - Thursday : Welcome Back Kotter, Friday : The Making of Star Wars

Star Wars Movie - Celebration
Billy Dee Williams - Wrap up

SW Break 14 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Darth Vader Tie Fighter
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show
1977.xx.xx - The Midnight Special - Darth Vader Meets Wolfman Jack
1977.xx.xx - Donny & Marie - 'Gotta get lost in space'

Making of Star Wars - intro thru opening credit

SW Break 15 = Bits From:
1977.xx.xx - Bob Hope Christmas Special - Mark Hamill
1995.xx.xx - Star Wars Trilogy Home Video Trailer
1983.02.xx - HBO February Home Guide

Making of Star Wars - beginning thru Tunisia

SW Break 16 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Radio Controlled R2-D2
1977.xx.xx - Gene Schallet Interviews - Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill & Carrie Fisher
1983.10.05 - Star Wars Television Premiere - Japan
1987.xx.xx - Today Show - Star Wars Feature
1983.xx.xx - Showtime's Bill Harris Interviews Mark Hamill
1977.05.xx - Burger King Star Wars Glasses Commercial
198x.xx.xx - 20th Century Fox Home Video Promo
1977.xx.xx - Donny & Marie - 'Show us the way to get out of this world'
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Radio Controlled Jawa Sandcrawler
198x.xx.xx - Star Tours : The Ultimate Adventure : From The Creative Forces of Disney & George Lucas

Making of Star Wars - Tuskens thru Wookies

SW Break 17 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Droid Factory
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show
1983.xx.xx - Showtime's Bill Harris Interviews Mark Hamill
197x.xx.xx - Star Wars Audition Tapes - Carrie Fisher
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show
197x.xx.xx - Star Wars Audition Tapes - Carrie Fisher
1977.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Star Wars Interviews
197x.xx.xx - Star Wars Audition Tapes - Mark Hamill
1978.11.17 - The Star Wars Holiday Special - Alien Commercial Reverse
1977.xx.xx - NBC Special Richard Pryor - Star Wars Bar
197x.xx.xx - French TV Star Wars Dance Number
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Marketing Video - Star Wars Is Forever

Making of Star Wars - lightsaber fx thru compactor

SW Break 18 = Bits From:
1978.11.17 - The Star Wars Holiday Special - Bumper
200x.xx.xx - ESPN Star Wars Characters
1987.xx.xx - Today Show - Star Wars Feature
1977.07.20 - The Mike Douglas Show
1977.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Star Wars Interviews - Carrie Fisher
198x.xx.xx - Starcade - Star Wars Video Game
197x.xx.xx - French TV Star Wars Dance Number
1977.xx.xx - Donny & Marie - 'Get Ready cus here we come'
197x.xx.xx - Saturday Night Live - Carrie Fisher

Making of Star Wars - Leia thru tractor beam

SW Break 19 = Bits From:
1977.xx.xx - Bob Hope Christmas Special - Mark Hamill
197x.xx.xx - Hardware Wars Promo - May The Farce Be With You Crawl
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Electronic Laser Battle Game Commercial

1976.xx.xx - Special : Making of the Computer Graphics for Star Wars : A Videotape by Larry Cuba

1977.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Star Wars Interviews - Harrison Ford
1977.xx.xx - Kenner Star Wars Action Figures
197x.xx.xx - French TV Star Wars Dance Number
197x.xx.xx - Anthony Daniels interviewed by Bob Wilkins???
1983.10.05 - Star Wars Television Premiere - Japan

Making of Star Wars - DS battle thru credits

SW Break 20 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Rescue From Gilligan's Island
xxxx.xx.xx - The Last Starfighter's Star Wars Connection Video
198x.xx.xx - Namco Star Wars Video Game
200x.xx.xx - Star Wars Promo - Chinese
1977.xx.xx - Donny & Marie - 'Finale'
1977.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Star Wars Interviews
1978.xx.xx - Channel 2 News At 11:00 PM - Fighting the Frizzies

Blip-Verts : Sex Wars Logo & Star Babe Logo

SWUE02 - Contents
>>> Commercial Breaks = 20

::: Play Options
>>> 5:21:19:28 = All
>>> 4:27:48:21 = (SW) + (MoSW) + (SWCB) + (BDW)
>>> 3:53:20:00 = (SW) + (MoSW) + (OC) + (BDW)
>>> 2:59:48:23 = (SW) + The Making of Star Wars (MoSW) + (BDW)
>>> 2:13:36:04 = (SW) + (BDW)
>>> 2:04:58:08 = Star Wars (SW)
>>> 1:24:34:09 = Star Wars Commercial Breaks (SWCB) [.Semi Hidden.]
>>> 0:53:31:07 = Original Commercials (OC) [.hidden.]
>>> 0:09:26:00 = Billie Dee William Hosting Segments (BDW) [.Semi Hidden.]

::: SWUE02 Presentation Order
20th Century Fox Television Logo

ESB Break 01 = Bits From:
197x.xx.xx - Anthony Daniels interviewed by Bob Wilkins???
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews
1980.05.xx - Universe with Walter Cronkite - Empire Strike Back Feature
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
1980.0x.xx - Empire Strikes Back Original Trailer
197x.xx.xx - Kenner Large Size Figure Boba Fett
197x.xx.xx - Palitoy Action Figures, Millennium Falcon, Imperial Troop Transporter
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
1979.10.xx - Addam's Family Halloween Special

Billy Dee Williams - Intro
Empire Movie - Opening thru Veers choke

ESB Break 02 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Turret & Probot Playset Commercial
1980.xx.xx - Today Show - Jane Pauley Interviews Mark Hamill & Harrison Ford
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - Darth Vader, Chewbacca, Boba Fett
1980.xx.xx - BBC MediaCult Empire Strikes Back Feature
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews
1980.xx.xx - Burger Chef Empire Strikes Back Poster Offer Commercial
197x.xx.xx - Green Cross Code Commercial (David Prowse & GCC3)
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back TaunTaun & Hot Wampa

Billy Dee Williams - Hoth
Empire Movie - Briefing thru Luke to Dagobah

ESB Break 03 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back AT-AT
198x.xx.xx - Parker Video Games Atari 2600 Commercial - Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back & Frogger
1980.xx.xx - BBC MediaCult Empire Strikes Back Feature - Carrie Fisher
1980.xx.xx - Palitoy Empire Strikes Back AT-AT
1980.xx.xx - Atari 2600 Empire Strikes Back Video Game 'How to beat'
1980.05.xx - The Empire Strikes Back TV Commercial
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Hoth Ice Planet Adventure Game
198x.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - FX-7, Rebel Soldier, Imperial Stormtrooper, Chewbacca

Billy Dee Williams - Frank Oz
Empire Movie - Star Destroyer persues Falcon thru Falcon in cave

ESB Break 04 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Millennium Falcon & Rebel Armored Snowspeeder Commercial
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) - Gary Kurtz Producer
198x.xx.xx - Empire Strikes Back Premiere - NBC Sunday Night At The Movies
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) - Irvin Kershner
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) - Irvin Kershner
1980.xx.xx - Atari 2600 Empire Strikes Back Video Game 'How to beat'
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Dagobah Action Playset Commercial

Billy Dee Williams - Details
Empire Movie - Dagobah thru Emperor

ESB Break 05 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figure - Yoda Commercial
1980.05.xx - Universe with Walter Cronkite - Empire Strike Back Feature
1980.xx.xx - Today Show - Jane Pauley Interviews Mark Hamill & Harrison Ford
198x.xx.xx - Sesame Street - R2-D2 & C-3po visit
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Millennium Falcon Commercial

Empire Movie - Yoda's home thru Leaving space slug

ESB Break 06 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Darth Vader Collector's Case #1 Commercial
1980.05.xx - Universe with Walter Cronkite - Empire Strike Back Feature
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
1984.xx.xx - Pioneer Laserdisc Message
198x.xx.xx - Sesame Street - R2-D2 & C-3po visit
198x.xx.xx - Saturday Night Live - What is that Cat's name? Sketch
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Darth Vader Collector's Case #2 Commercial

Billy Dee Williams - Walkers
Empire Movie - Training thru Luke's fail

ESB Break 07 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Darth Vader Star Destroyer Commercial
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews - Billy Dee Williams & Carrie Fisher
198x.xx.xx - The Muppet Show - Dance Number
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Scout Walker & Vehicle Maintenance Energizer
198x.xx.xx - The Great Space Coaster - Mark Hamill
1980.xx.xx - Showbiz Show Interviews Harrison Ford
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews - Harrison Ford
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figure - Yoda & R2-D2 Commercial

Billy Dee Williams - Lando
Empire Movie - Bounty Hunters thru I don't believe it

ESB Break 08 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figure - IG-88, Bossk, Lando Calrissian Commercial
1980.xx.xx - Atari 2600 Empire Strikes Back Video Game 'How to beat'
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
198x.xx.xx - RCA Selectavision VideoDiscs Player Presentation Logo
198x.xx.xx - RCA Selectavision VideoDiscs Player Presentation - Star Wars disc on shelf

Billy Dee Williams - Finse
Empire Movie - Apology accepted thru 3po gets shot

ESB Break 09 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Twin-Pod Cloud Car #1
1983.10.05 - Star Wars Television Premiere - Japan
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) - Irvin Kershner
198x.xx.xx - Jimmy Carter Interviews George Lucas
1983.xx.xx - Nightline - Return of the Jedi Discussion - John Simon and Siskel & Ebert
198x.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Twin-Pod Cloud Car #2

Empire Movie - Luke leaves Dagobah thru Bespin dinner

ESB Break 10 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back The Force Light Saber & Yoda Hand Puppet
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) - Stewart Freeborn (mislabeled as Frank Oz)
1983.xx.xx - Nightline - Return of the Jedi Discussion - John Simon and Siskel & Ebert
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package

Billy Dee Williams - Characters
Empire Movie - Luke going to Bespin thru Han frozen

ESB Break 11 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - Lando Calrissian, Han Solo, Ugnaught, Lobot
1980.xx.xx - Showbiz Show Interviews Harrison Ford
1980.xx.xx - Judi Barton Movie Review - The Empire Strikes Back
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) -
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - Luke Skywalker (Hoth), Chewbacca

Billy Dee Williams - Improvements
Empire Movie - Boba take Han thru Falcon leaves Bespin

ESB Break 12 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Slave-1
1980.xx.xx - Today Show - Jane Pauley Interviews Mark Hamill & Harrison Ford
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews - Harrison Ford
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews - Anthony Daniels
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Rebel Armored Snowspeeder

Billy Dee Williams - Falcon
Empire Movie - Luke vs Vader thru R2 fixes the Falcon

ESB Break 13 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - BBC MediaCult Empire Strikes Back Feature - Crowd Interviews
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Micro Playset Bespin World
1980.xx.xx - Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back Theatrical Commercial - Japanese End Card
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - Bespin Guard, AT-AT Commander, Imperial Tie-Fighter Pilot
198x.xx.xx - Underoos - R2-D2, Darth Vader, C-3po, Boba Fett

Empire Movie - Falcon goodbyes thru credits
Billy Dee Williams - Conclusion

ESB Break 14a = Bits From:
1980.05.xx - Universe with Walter Cronkite - Empire Strike Back Feature
1980.xx.xx - Judi Barton Movie Review - The Empire Strikes Back
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) - TaunTaun
1984.xx.xx - Pioneer LaserDisc Promo
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Rebel Transport
1984.xx.xx - Pioneer LaserDisc Promo
1984.xx.xx - Pioneer LaserDisc Logo
198x.xx.xx - LaserVision Logo
1980.xx.xx - Today Show - Jane Pauley Interviews Mark Hamill & Harrison Ford
1980.xx.xx - Atari 2600 Empire Strikes Back Video Game 'How to beat'
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back X-Wing & Imperial Tie-Fighter
1980.xx.xx - RSO Records - The Empire Strikes Back Original Soundtrack

Making of Empire - Intro thru Opening

ESB Break 15 = Bits From:
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews - Anthony Daniels
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - Han Solo (Hoth) & C-3po (Break Apart)
1983.xx.xx - Nightline - Return of the Jedi Discussion - John Simon and Siskel & Ebert
198x.xx.xx - The Great Space Coaster - Mark Hamill
1983.xx.xx - ABC News 20/20 - John Williams Piece
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Micro Death Star World

Making of Empire - Mark Hamill thru Them!

ESB Break 16 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - NBC Movie of the Week - The Empire Strikes Back
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) -
1984.xx.xx - Pioneer LaserDisc Promo
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Darth Vader Collector's Case
1980.xx.xx - Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back Original Theatrical Trailer - Japanese Subs
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Hoth Wampa & R2-D2 with Sensorscope

Making of Empire - Wampa thru Finse

ESB Break 17 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Imperial Tie-Fighter & Millennium Falcon
1980.xx.xx - BBC MediaCult Empire Strikes Back Feature
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
1980.xx.xx - Atari 2600 Empire Strikes Back Video Game 'How to beat'
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) -
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - Han Solo, Rebel Soldier, Lando Calrissian, Bespin Guard

Making of Empire - SFXs unknown thru walker

ESB Break 18 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Micro Hoth World
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) -
1980.12.19 - SCTV - Siskel & Ebert Sneak Previews
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews - Billy Dee Williams & Carrie Fisher
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) -
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - Yoda & AT-AT Driver

Making of Empire - SFX thru space ships

ESB Break 19 = Bits From:
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Hoth Ice Planet Playset
198x.xx.xx - Making Empire (Dutch Subs) -
1980.xx.xx - Showbiz Show Interviews Harrison Ford
1980.05.xx - SWTVJ's Montage Empire Strikes Back Interviews - Mark Hamill & Harrison Ford
198x.xx.xx - Lavern & Shirley - Special Guest Carrie Fisher
198x.xx.xx - The Gong Show
1982.xx.xx - Late Night With David Letterman - Harrison Ford
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Imperial Attack Base Playset Commercial

Making of Empire - Norway thru credits

ESB Break 20 = Bits From:
19x.xx.xx - Star Wars A Birodalom Visszawag Promo
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Marketing Package
1980.05.xx - Universe with Walter Cronkite - Empire Strike Back Feature
1980.xx.xx - Kenner Empire Strikes Back Action Figures - 4-LOM, Zuckuss & Imperial Tie-Fighter Pilot
1980.xx.xx - Showbiz Show Interviews Harrison Ford
1982.xx.xx - Late Night With David Letterman - Harrison Ford

Blip-Verts = none

SWUE03 - Contents
-------------------------------------
>>> Commercial Breaks = 20

::: Play Options
>>> 5:18:12:25 = All
>>> 4:29:32:22 = (SW) + (MoSW) + (SWCB) + (BDW)
>>> 3:55:14:10 = (SW) + (MoSW) + (OC) + (BDW)
>>> 3:06:34:07 = (SW) + The Making of Star Wars (MoSW) + (BDW)
>>> 2:20:36:24 = (SW) + (BDW)
>>> 2:11:47:29 = Star Wars (SW)
>>> 1:22:58:15 = Star Wars Commercial Breaks (SWCB) [.Semi Hidden.]
>>> 0:48:40:03 = Original Commercials (OC) [.hidden.]
>>> 0:08:44:25 = Billie Dee William Hosting Segments (BDW) [.Semi Hidden.]

::: SWUE03 Presentation Order
20th Century Fox Television Logo

ROTJ Break 01 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - The Making of A Saga : From Star Wars to Jedi - Salacious Crumb
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
1983.xx.xx - ABC Channel 7 NYC Newscast
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Marketing Package
1985.xx.xx - ABC Saturday Morning
198x.xx.xx - Star Wars Return of the Jedi Premiere - NBC Sunday Night At The Movies
1983.05.xx - R?cr? A2 - c_est chouette sp?cial Retour du Jedi
1983.05.xx - ABC Eyewitness News - Return of the Jedi Report
1983.05.xx - Schriver????
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
198x.xx.xx - THX LaserDisc Intro

Billy Dee Williams - Intro
Jedi Movie - crawl thru Chewie & Han reunite

ROTJ Break 02 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Lili Ledy El Rereso Del Jedi Action Figure - Boush, Chewbacca, AT-ST Driver, 8D8
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Jabba the Hutt Action Playset Commercial
1997.xx.xx - Access Hollywood - ReAirs old interviews - Carrie Fisher
1983.05.xx - ABC Eyewitness News - Return of the Jedi Report
198x.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Action Figure - Boush, Chewbacca, AT-ST Driver, 8D8

Billy Dee Williams - Luke
Jedi Movie - Luke arrives at Jabbas thru Luke's captured

ROTJ Break 03 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Kellogg's Name Decoder Game Commercial
198x.xx.xx - Palitoy Return Of the Jedi Rancor Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
1983.xx.xx - Showtime's Bill Harris Interviews Mark Hamill
198x.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Rancor Monster Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Marketing Package
1983.xx.xx - Jeffrey Neal

Billy Dee Williams - Luke Jedi
Jedi Movie - Sail Barge thru Emperor

ROTJ Break 04 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Kellogg's C-3po's Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Imperial Shuttle Commercial
1983.xx.xx - CBS Channel 2 New York - Return of the Jedi Newscast
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Sweepstakes Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
198x.xx.xx - Palitoy Factory Footage
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Action Figures - Klaatu, Weequay, Luke Skywalker, Lando Calrissian

Billy Dee Williams - Visuals
Jedi Movie - Dagobah thru Ben's speech

ROTJ Break 05 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Pepperidge Farms Star Wars Cookies Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Showtime's Bill Harris Interviews Mark Hamill
198x.xx.xx - RCA VideoDisc Player Commercial
198x.xx.xx - Kenner El Retorno del Jedi Toys Annuncios
198x.xx.xx - Presto Magix Transfers Return of the Jedi Commercial

Billy Dee Williams - Secrecy
Jedi Movie - Rebel reunion thru Rebels on shuttle

ROTJ Break 06 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Action Figures - Nein Numb Offer
1983.05.xx - ABC Eyewitness News - Return of the Jedi Report
198x.xx.xx - NES Video Game Star Wars Return of the Jedi Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Marketing Package
1983.xx.xx - Richard Marquand Interview
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Toy Collection

Jedi Movie - Endor thru Emperor's forseeing

ROTJ Break 07 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Speeder Bike Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Star Wars Return of the Jedi Original Theatrical Trailer - Japanese Subs
1984.xx.xx - Atari Video Game - Return of the Jedi Game Play Endor
1983.xx.xx - ABC News 20/20 - John Williams Piece
1983.xx.xx - Palitoy Return of the Jedi Plush Ewok Wicket W. Warrick & Princess Kneesaa Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Palitoy Return of the Jedi Speeder Bike Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Kenner El Retorno del Jedi Speeder Bike Annuncios

Billy Dee Williams - Actors and SFX
Jedi Movie - Looking for Leia thru Part of the tribe

ROTJ Break 08 = Bits From:
1984.xx.xx - Atari Video Game - Return of the Jedi Game Play Endor
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Plush Ewok Wicket W. Warrick & Princess Kneesaa Commercial
1983.05.xx - Burger King Return of the Jedi Glasses Commercial
198x.xx.xx - NES Return of the Jedi Attack on the Death Star Gameplay
198x.xx.xx - Anthony Daniels Interview
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Action Figures Max Rebo Band

Billy Dee Williams - Imperial Walkers
Jedi Movie - Luke tells Leia thru Luke and Vader

ROTJ Break 09 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Ewok Village Playset Commercial
198x.xx.xx - Ewok Adventure Premiere - The ABC Sunday Night Movie
1983.xx.xx - Nightline - Return of the Jedi Discussion - John Simon and Siskel & Ebert
1983.xx.xx - ABC News 20/20 - John Williams Piece
1983.xx.xx - Palitoy Return of the Jedi Ewok Village Playset Commercial

Jedi Movie - Generator assault thru Luke & Emperor

ROTJ Break 10 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Star Wars Return of the Jedi Premiere - The CBS Saturday Night Movies - Local Voiceover
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Action Figures - Han Solo, Logray, Biker Scout, Chief Chirpa
1983.xx.xx - CBS Channel 2 New York - Return of the Jedi Newscast
198x.xx.xx - The Ice Capades - The Ewoks and the Magic Sunberries Clip
1987.xx.xx - HBO World Tour Promo - Return of the Jedi Tomorrow 9:30 AM

Billy Dee Williams - Film Score
Jedi Movie - Bunker thru Luke threatens Emperor

ROTJ Break 11 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Lili Ledy El Rereso Del Jedi Action Figure - Han Solo (Endor), Wicket, Princess Leia (Endor)
1985.xx.xx - Droids Cartoon Promo - ABC
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Marketing Package
1983.xx.xx - Kenner El Retorno del Jedi AT-ST Annuncios
1983.xx.xx - Palitoy Return of the Jedi AT-ST Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Kenner El Retorno del Jedi Ewok Village Playset Annuncios
1983.xx.xx - Showtime's Bill Harris Interviews Mark Hamill
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Speeder Bike, Ewok Glider, Ewok Assault Catapult

Jedi Movie - Ewoks fight thru So be it, jedi

ROTJ Break 12 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Action Figure Commercial - Palpatine Offer
1983.xx.xx - Shriver
1983.xx.xx - CBS Channel 2 New York - Return of the Jedi Newscast
1987.xx.xx - Today Show - Star Wars Feature - Carrie Fisher
1987.xx.xx - Today Show - Star Wars Feature - Harrison Ford
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Toys

Jedi Movie - Bunker explodes thru Vader dies

ROTJ Break 13 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Millennium Falcon & Tie-Interceptor
1984.xx.xx - Atari Video Game - Return of the Jedi Game Play Death Star
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
1983.xx.xx - Richard Marquand Interview
198x.xx.xx - Palitory Return of the Jedi B-Wing & Tie-Interceptor Commercial
1991.xx.xx - CBS-Fox Video Special Widescreen Edition Into

Billy Dee Williams - Complex SFX
Jedi Movie - Falcons DS2 run thru credits
Billy Dee Williams - About forthcoming Special Editions

ROTJ Break 14 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Jeffrey Neal
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi B-Wing Commercial
1985.xx.xx - The ABC Saturday Sneak Peek and Fun Fit Test - Hosted by Tony Danza C-3po & R2-D2
1983.xx.xx - Shriver
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
198x.xx.xx - The Ewoke Adventure Caravan of Courage - Japanese Subs
1984.xx.xx - Atari Video Game - Return of the Jedi Game Play Credits

Making of a Saga - start thru Sy Snoodles

ROTJ Break 15 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - CBS Channel 2 New York - Return of the Jedi Newscast
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Marketing Package
198x.xx.xx - Knight Rider
1987.xx.xx - Today Show - Star Wars Feature
1985.xx.xx - The ABC Saturday Sneak Peek and Fun Fit Test - Ewoks and Droids Promo
1987.xx.xx - MSNBC News Time and Again - Kenner Factory
199x.xx.xx - Nickelodeon - R2-D2 and C-3po

Making of a Saga - Jabba creating thru Jabba filming

ROTJ Break 16 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Action Figure Poster Offer
1983.xx.xx - Showtime's Bill Harris Interviews Mark Hamill
19xx.xx.xx - ILM Development of CGI 1980s
1983.xx.xx - ABC News 20/20 - John Williams Piece
198x.xx.xx - Palitoy Return of the Jedi Mini-Rig Commercial
1983.xx.xx - Jeffrey Neal
198x.xx.xx - Lili Ledy El Rereso Del Jedi Halcion Milenario y Nave Imperial Comercial

Making of a Saga - Rancor thru space fights

ROTJ Break 17 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Parker Brothers Video Game Cartridges - Return of the Jedi Battle
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Marketing Package
1985.xx.xx - The ABC Saturday Sneak Peek and Fun Fit Test - Ewoks Promo
198x.xx.xx - Super Return of the Jedi Video Game
1983.xx.xx - ABC News 20/20 - John Williams Piece
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Marketing Package

Making of a Saga - perception of visual material thru speeder bikes

ROTJ Break 18 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Nightline - Return of the Jedi Discussion - John Simon and Siskel & Ebert
198x.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi The Ewok Family Hut Commercial
198x.xx.xx - Star Wars Shadows of the Empire Commercial
1985.xx.xx - The ABC Saturday Sneak Peek and Fun Fit Test - Droids Promo
1983.xx.xx - ABC News 20/20 - John Williams Piece
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
1984.xx.xx - The Fantastic World of DC Collins - Gary Coleman

Making of a Saga - droids thru ewoks

ROTJ Break 19 = Bits From:
1983.xx.xx - Kenner Return of the Jedi Marketing Package
1983.xx.xx - Jeffrey Neal
1983.xx.xx - ABC News 20/20 - John Williams Piece
1983.xx.xx - Siskel & Ebert At the Movies - Return of the Jedi Review
198x.xx.xx - Ewoks Battle For Endor Premiere - The ABC Sunday Night Movie Intro
1987.xx.xx - Today Show - Star Wars Feature - Harrison Ford
198x.xx.xx - Kenner Droids Toy Commercial

Making of a Saga - SFX thru credits

ROTJ Break 20 = Bits From:
198x.xx.xx - Kenner Logo
1983.xx.xx - Shriver
19xx.xx.xx - Panasonic "Sparky"
198x.xx.xx - Jimmy Carter Interviews George Lucas
19xx.xx.xx - Panasonic "Model Storage"
1983.xx.xx - Showtime's Bill Harris Interviews Mark Hamill
19xx.xx.xx - Panasonic "New Friends"

Blip-Verts = none

— The Ordeal Is Real — And Downloadable From The FAQ —

STAR WARS - THE ULTIMATE EXPERIENCE - "Is Forever …One Last Time"

Full FAQ : http://noneinc.com/SWUE/SWUE-FAQ.html

Preservation Set of the last Original Trilogy Television Broadcast

"Now with Commercial Breaks filled with Star Wars Television"

Movie Presentation: 1996 Sci-Fi Channel broadcast hosted by Billy Dee Williams. (Widescreen - Letterboxed)

Commercial Break Material: SWTV from the first 10 years of Star Wars.

//// Release Description ////

To preserve the last Original Trilogy airing of the Star Wars movies on television. <span>While reliving or see for the first time the media blitz which fed off and supported the swelling popularity of the Star Wars. Commemorate the movie’s journey from theatrical release to television broadcasts to home video. Supported by commercials, interviews, news reports and other diverse recordings.</span>

To enhance that viewing experience by replacing the commercial breaks with Star Wars material. Toy (Kenner, Palitoy, Lili Ledy, Toltoys) and Promotion Commercials (food items, apparel, free cups, posters, etc), bumper segments from the various SW television Premieres (ON-TV, HBO, CBS, Japan, ABC, Making Of, NBC), Movie Trailers, Interviews, Reviews, Variety Programming, Children’s Programming, Oscars Awards, Laserdisc & VHS Promotion and several other random bits.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::: HELP NEEDED :::

SWUE04 is on hold. Party because i’ve run out of harddrive space, but also because hopefully with this set out in the wild, someone will come forward with a recording of the 1993 Sci-Fi Channel Carrie Fisher hosted segments. Would like to add them to SWUE04.

Here’s an article about the Carrie Fisher broadcast:

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-07-17/entertainment/ca-13956_1_star-wars

It's up for an Emmy in "Outstanding Creative Achievement in Interactive Media"

http://www.emmys.com/nominations?tid=141

judging from the competition, should be a win.

Beginning of a list of airing or SW Events which could have had broadcasted indents, bumpers, commercials, promos, trailers, station ids, adverts, breaks, you name it:

1977.09.16 - ABC The Making of Star Wars

1978.11.17 - CBS Holiday Special

1982.09.25 - ON-TV

1983 - HBO (winter)

1983.10.05 - Japanese Broadcast Premiere?

1984.02.16 - CBS (with 22 minute making of)

1984.11.25 - ABC Ewok Adventure

1985.01 - Z Channel : ESB Premiere

1985.09.07 - ABC Ewoks and Droids Adventure Hour Saturday Morning

1985.11.24 - ABC Ewoks: THe Battle for Endor

1986.07.07 - ABC Droids 'The Great Heep' 8pm Broadcast

1986.11.01 - Ice Capades, Inc. "The Ewoks and the Magic Sunberries" commercials airs during Ewoks "The Season Scepter"

1987.xx.xx - Hello Kitty's Furry Tale Theater - 'Cat Wars' spoof

1987.11.22 - NBC ESB Premiere

1989.03.19 - NBC RotJ Premiere

1991.02.22 - NBC ESB

1992.xx.xx - Kureyon Shin-chan - spoof

1993.xx.xx - George Lucas Super Live Adventure

1996 - Sci-fi Widescreen, Billy Dee Williams hosted

1997 - Sci-fi Widescreen, Carrie Fisher hosted

1998.11.14 - Pinky and the Brain - Star Warners
1999.xx.xx - WPIX 11 NYC
2001.11.25 - Fox TPM Premiere
2005.03.22 - Cartoon Network Clone Wars Season 1 (CTV : Canada, Sky Movies HD)
2005.05.22 - Fox AotC Premiere
2005.12.06 - Cartoon Network Clone Wars Season 2
2007.01.01 - Sky Movies HD - All 6 Premiere

2007.xx.xx - HBO Star Wars in HDTV (SKY : UK, German, Cinemax, Premiere HD)
2007.05.xx - 30th Anniversary of Star Wars

2007.06.17 - Cartoon Network Robot Chicken Star Wars
2007.09.23 - Fox Family Guy 'Blue Harvest'
2008.04.04 - Spike TPM Premiere
2008.04.05 - Spike AotC Premiere
2008.04.06 - Spike RotS Premiere
2008.04.11 - Spike ANH Premiere
2008.04.12 - Spike ESB Premiere
2008.04.13 - Spike RotJ Premiere
2008.08.15 - G4 Star Wars Celebration Japan
2008.10.03 - Cartoon Network The Clone Wars Premiere
2008.11.16 - Cartoon Network Robot Chicken Star Wars Episode II
2009.07.25 - G4 The 2009 Star Wars Spectacular
2009.12.22 - Fox Family Guy 'Something, Something, Something, Dark Side'
2009.12.23 - Cartoon Network Robot Chicken Star Wars 2.5
2010.05.22 - Spike 30th Anniversary Empire Strikes Back broadcast in Times Square MTV JumboTron
2010.xx.xx - Cartoon Network Robot Chicken Star Wars Episode III

Star Wars on Television : Idents, Bumpers, Commercials, Promos, Trailers, Station IDs, Adverts, Breaks, ??? Thread

Overview

As kids of the home recording generation, many people grew up watching the saga through a Beta or VHS recording from their local public or pay-tv broadcast.  And for many the HBO, CBS or other local station logo, jingle or montage are as crucial to the Star Wars experience as the 20th Century Fox Logo.  Please use this thread to dredge up all those local tv networks which played the Star Wars movies at one time.

The first 20-25 years of the Star Wars saga on television did not fair well in the ratings.  Blame it on shotty programming (Holiday Special) or the over saturation of the marketplace.

In the US with each of the Original Trilogy films, there was a process of premiering on a pay system, then cable, finally public airwaves.  In the dead period between the end of the OT and the SE, the films could be watched on a wide variety of channels.  Later on the Prequel Trilogy films would by-pass pay and cable systems and premiere on Fox’s own network.

Don’t have a clue how it worked in the rest of the world.  Please enlighten.

The phun of these could be listening to all the announcers and the copy they were asked to read.  Graphicly, some stations incorporate the movies into these short presentations others just montage the movie, and some just dump their logo on top.  Depending on how big they thought the ratings would be, each channel has a different set of pieces.  A full commercial which aired before the broadcasts, a short 2 second indent which aired between breaks, a 10-15 second bumper at the top of the hour, each channel has done it differently.

Great Article which partially inspired this thread:
Television Obscurities >> Star Wars on Network Television
http://www.tvobscurities.com/articles/starwars_tv.php

If anyone's into beta-testing, please download:

http://noneinc.com/SWUE/SWUE-Test001.img

(250 mg)

It's 10 minutes of video, with the various play back options which are being considered for the project.  It's not a perfect test, in that if burned to a disc, it'll be at the center which will have a faster seek time.  but on my computer it plays ok, need to be aware of audio issues when selecting the markers in the future.  Let me know what problems you forsee.

Also feel free to comment on the visuals, that's the lowest quality settings, and it looks ok, the source is VHS LP.

none

There's a thread for that "Leia shoots first" release:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/rapidoor-Theatrical-Editions-Custom-BD-50/post/424032/#TopicPost424032

(so speculation doesn't clutter this thread)

Space for General Comments

Do I know what this is? Not beyond the .NFO posted to a.b.sw.

What does the bitrate image/info help us out with? Is it created to determine peak 'action' points which might need to have their bitrates changed to fit the bluray format

'rapidoor' seems to be an entity/organization/something with ties to or are ABHDTV REVIEWS.

If someone does try to download it, this might be helpful:

http://www.binsearch.info/viewNFO.php?oid=37736514&server=

The .nfo was created to spur reaction, try not to get too excited.  Enjoy the ironies in it.

'RotJ' NFO:

Return of the Jedi
1983 Theatrical Edition
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Custom BD-50

Source: Premiere HD, Sky HD,
        Return Of The Jedi Theatrical (GOUT Sourced) Custom DVD - by DarkJedi
Length: 2:11:42
Video: 1080p23.976 MPEG-2 34.70Mbps
Audio 1: English PCM 2.0 1536 Kbps (LaserDisc audio by Belbucus)
Audio 2: English AC3 2.0 Dolby Surround 192 Kbps (Official DVD)
Audio 3: English DTS 5.1 1509 Kbps (LaserDisc upmix by hairy_hen)
Audio 4: English AC3 2.0 384 Kbps (LaserDisc audio from DarkJedi DVD)
Subtitles: None (hardcoded English for Huttese)
Chapters: 50 chapter marks from DVD
Menu: None (use your remote to switch audio)
Authored with: Sonic Scenarist BD 5.2

http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/71685

(The last one is to show you that any artifacts you see were already present
in the original cap.)


I wasn't planning on doing this one since I thought it would be unwatchable
like the first one, but then I realized that the bulk of this film was
unchanged. And I used a cleaned up source for the DVD. The image is perfectly
stable, there are no lines on the side, almost no aliasing, and the noise has
been cleaned up (OMG DNR!). Thanks to DarkJedi. I think it blends pretty darn
well with the HD. Judge for yourself. And again this is just a straight edit
between the two versions. No fancy CG restorations. There is only about 5
minutes total of DVD footage. The rest of the movie is from the 1080p cap.

Sorry for the first release of "Star Wars 1977 BD" sucking so bad. After I
finished it I decided it wasn't worthy of release but then I changed my mind.
And then I changed it again. Just like Lucas! Please delete all copies of it.
It's an embarrassment. My own personal Holiday Special. I do plan on
revisiting it at some point with much better source material and not being so
anal about restoring every tiny change. Stay tuned.

If you didn't download "The Empire Strike Back 1980 BD" because the first
release scared you off, please do get it. It is actually quite good and is
undoubtedly the best quality out of all three, mostly due to adywan's
restorations. Search for bd-tesb1980 in cause you forgot :) Google "rapidoor"
for the standard password.


What was restored:
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-All audio changes are restored in case that is not obvious from the track
 listing. But please note that the 5.1 upmix has changes so it is not fully
 theatrical, and the AC3 2.0 384Kbps track doesn't appear to have surround
 encoding.
-Opening Logos
-Lapti Nek music sequence
-Removal of 2 new shots of Boba Fett in Jabba's Palace (blatant pandering to
 fanboys...). I had to use one subtitled shot from the DVD, and it's in the
 black bar unlike the HD scenes. Sorry. I suppose a better person could have
 re-rendered the subs. But at least it's the same color.
-No more Banthas in desert
-All shots of Sarlacc pit
-No rope around Han's feet
 (The next 85 minutes is pure HD since there were no SE changes. Hooray.)
-Anakin's death scene. How dare Lucas erase the amazing performance given by
 Sebastian Shaw's eyebrows! (A couple of Luke shots probably didn't have to
 come from the DVD but it makes the scene flow better.)
-Shot of rebel fleet flying away from Death Star
-Shot of Death Star explosion
-End celebration including Force Ghosts and Yub Nub!
-End credits (The last shot was heavily cut in the SE so it had to be
 restored no matter what, and it wipes to the original credits.)


What was NOT restored:
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-Any minor special effects clean-ups (duh). There are a lot of them.
-Lightsabers
-One shot of Black&Blue R2 in spaaaaaaaace
-No color co-wreck-tion. Seriously, just stop doing this. It never looks
right. I doubt anyone is using professionally calibrated monitors when they
are trying to "fix" the colors. And they probably aren't doing it
scene-by-scene either. A one-time blanket adjustment is not going to do the
trick. Most of the ones I've seen just end up having a yellow tint instead of
a blue tint. It doesn't look anything like the previous transfers. And the
crushed blacks is obviously not something you can fix either. Just leave it
alone. You can't really "correct" the colors without losing something with
it. We are not working from an original source here after all.

The new transfers are not that bad other than maybe the lightsabers in
a few shots. You get used to the blue tint after a while too. It seems like
almost every new HD transfer on Blu-ray gets this blue/aqua tint now (Star
Trek II, Gladiator re-release, Gangs of New York re-release, Blade Runner:
Final Cut, Heat, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, et al.). It's just par for
the course nowadays. Deal with it. And who is to say how accurate an old 1993
SD master was in the first place. It does look pretty dull by comparison now.
I never understood why people said Yoda was green until I saw the new
transfers. So there!


Nerd stuff:
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I probably could have used a couple of shots from the DVB broadcast of the
1997 Jedi SE but it just has too much blockiness.

FYI the official Jedi theatrical DVD has an error at 0:47:43 on a reel change
where two frames are essentially missing. The HD cap is NOT missing these
frames however so an audio edit is required here (these frames were on
previous LaserDisc versions so we know it's not an SE change). There is also
another DVD error at 1:38:33 on a reel change but there is nothing missing,
there's just some combing.

The SE DOES have an extra frame at 0:36:24 on the Tatooine fly-away though.
It's actually the second to last frame of the shot. It's an extra in-between
frame of the X-Wing flying away. Maybe the original was just missing a frame
here all along and they fixed it. I could have kept it and edited the audio
to match, but I decided to cut it out in order to stay pure to the original
version of the film. :P

Most of the time when there is a new shot inserted in the SE the original
shots around it are actually cut by a few frames. In case you are wondering
why some shots were restored even though there is no visible change, that's
why.

And in case you don't know, the opening trailer on this disc was shown with
the original theatrical release of Return of the Jedi in 1983. ;)


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BTW adywan, your name was never mentioned when I first referred to "retarded
fan edits" but I'm glad you assumed it was about yours, and then proceeded
to attack me like a little crybaby. Maybe it's just your ego thinking that
*your* fan edit is the only one anyone has watched. Or maybe you think your
edit is retarded too. For someone who is supposed to be so widely regarded
you sure do act like a petulant child.

The reason why I didn't use your insignia scene in Empire is because I didn't
like the artifacting in the part of the frame where they were replaced. This
change didn't bother me and I wanted to keep as much original high quality
footage as possible as I stated. (BTW you still missed another fixed reversed
insignia on another officer in a later shot. Plus some later shots of blue R2
and one shot of Cloud City. Not to mention countless audio changes. In your
own words: epic FAIL!!!) Otherwise I am grateful for your restoration work
and that is why I used it with proper credit. Which is still better than
butchering someone else's film with a retarded fan edit, not thanking him at
all for making the film in the first place, and all the while cursing him for
making HIS own changes to HIS own film.

And pro-tip: up the bitrate on your encodes and stop trying to fit HD onto
DVDs. Your AVCHD releases are absolutely pathetic. I don't know how anyone
could miss all of that obvious pulsing on Episode IV. It's clear as day.
Everyone who is praising these releases at originaltrilogy.com needs to get
their eyes checked. Seriously. Or just stick to your VHS since you all
obviously know nothing about HD quality.

adywang's AVCHD vs. source:
http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/71838

This is what the kids call EPIC FAIL!!!!1111oneone

Isn't it funny how "old" MPEG-2 beats the pants off this low bitrate
crapfest. I guess it's more about who is using the tools rather than the
tools themselves.


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(What's up with fan edits anyway? I don't get it. If you don't want the
filmmaker to change his film why would you want some random person on the
internet to do it instead, with even lamer looking CG and more unnecessary
"fixes"? Anyway...)

Oh and uhhh...thanks to the Fat Bearded One. And I don't mean Zorba the Hutt!

Look ma no password

File Name: bd-tesb1980.nfo

The Empire Strikes Back

1980 Theatrical Edition

----------------------------------------------------------

Custom BD-50



Source: Premiere HD, Sky HD, adywan,

and 2006 Limited Edition R1 DVD Disc 2

Length: 2:04:52

Video: 1080p23.976 MPEG-2 34.52Mbps

Audio: English AC3 2.0 Dolby Surround 192Kbps

(Source: 2006 Limited Edition R1 DVD Disc 2)

English AC3 5.1 448Kbps

(Source: adywan Theatrical DVD audio fix)

Subtitles: None

Chapters : 50 chapter marks from DVD

Menu: None





This one is actually watchable. In fact the first BD is pretty much crap.

Restoring Star Wars and Jedi is difficult. Empire is a different story.



The transition between shots is not jarring. Or Jar-Jaring. The results

are much better this time.



There are only 4 shots taken from the official DVD footage (which still

looks better than the first film's). About 160 seconds are from adywan's

Theatrical DVD, which is much better quality, and the Grandma Emperor scene

(48 seconds) is from adywan's SE 1080p release. The opening crawl is from

Sky HD and the rest of the movie is the unaltered Premiere HD capture.



No color co-wreck-tion was done to the HD footage. I've seen a few

different attempts at that and they all look terrible.



I decided to keep as much HD footage as possible this time and ignore

extremely minor changes. With that in mind here is a list of



What was not restored in this film:

-----------------------------------

The shot of the Imperial Probe Droid flying away is slightly modified.



An extremely minor difference in Vader's first scene. If you can spot

this you get a Wookiee cookie.



Numerous tiny differences in the Battle of Hoth (lasers bolts and some

backgrounds). You would have to compare frame-by-frame to even notice

these.



Despite the new transfers having more picture information in most shots,

some Falcon cockpit shots have a slight zoom-in in this film. You would

have to compare side-by-side to see the difference.



R2's panels were originally black in space shots due to the limitations

of blue screen used at the time. This was fixed for the new release. You can

justify this as being a simple color timing difference (even though

technically it is not).



Different clouds in the background of one Falcon cockpit shot and in one shot

below Cloud City. No need to be anal!



Han's shadow/vest shots. I couldn't justify putting Harrison's close-up

in SD for this one minor thing.



One shot on Dagobah where the new edit is off by a few frames (but still

stays in sync with the original version). This is true of many of the optical

wipes as well. Again, nothing that can be detected without a frame-by-frame

comparison.



Lightsabers. The new version of the trilogy has thinner lightsabers to make

them look more like the prequels, and I hate them. This was actually the

main reason why I started this whole silly project in the first place.

But I think most people probably don't care about this and they want the

lightsaber scenes in HD. So here you go.



Admiral Piett and his Lieutenant had reverse insignias due to the film

being flipped. This was fixed in the new version and I left it in. Sue me.



In the final shot the characters standing in the window have slightly

different framing. Big whoop.



Triple passworded for your protection. For elitists only.











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"Leia gets laid"

File Name: bd-sw1977.nfo

Star Wars

1977 Theatrical Edition

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Custom BD-50



Source: Premiere HD, Sky HD, and 2006 Limited Edition R1 DVD Disc 2

Length: 2:01:07

Video: 1080p23.976 MPEG-2 39.62Mbps

Audio: English AC3 2.0 Dolby Surround 192Kbps

(Source: 2006 Limited Edition R1 DVD Disc 2)

Subtitles: None (hardcoded English for Huttese)

Chapters : 50 chapter marks from DVD

Menu: None





This is a 1080p HD version of the original theatrical edition with appropriate scenes

upconverted from the DVD. No attempt was made to clean up or enhance either source in

any way. Maximum bitrate was used to preserve quality. MPEG-2 was chosen simply because

it was easier to deal with at the time and at these bitrates the codec makes no difference.

You will need an electron microscope to see the difference from the original captures.

This was a personal project for me. You may like it or you may not. I don't care.



If nothing else it is a good illustration of all the changes. There are two places where

I left in extremely minor changes because it would have meant editing a lot of footage

around them. See if you can spot them.



I hope this will at least spur others with more skills than I into creating better HD

versions of the original unaltered theatrical editions, instead of wasting your talents

on retarded fan edits.













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QUICK SUMMARY:



Disc Title: Star Wars

Disc Size: 37,867,185,169 bytes

Protection: AACS

BD-Java: No

Playlist: 00000.MPLS

Size: 37,839,931,392 bytes

Length: 2:01:07

Total Bitrate: 41.65 Mbps

Video: MPEG-2 Video / 39619 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9

Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

"Leia shoots first"

CompMovieGuy wrote: I believe it has to do with how the video is muxed and stored on the DVD, with the branched part not being in the same location of the media on the disc and instead being at the end of the disc or something of that sort

It sounds like having the video materials (which in this case are getting swapped) as close as possible will alleviate this kind of problem.  And having the starting chapter marker also a compression marker might also make the muxing playback easier.  Again since this is a commercial segment which will be jumped it's maximum 8 minutes, more like 4-6, and that shouldn't cause massive studder or wait as it re-find the next playlist marker.  Since the film has a built in fade-out/in at the breaks, that could mask the wait.  Guessing that the most often play option, the commercial break should be right next to the fade out of the movie, so that the skip happens at the end of the most often played back, and the reverse for the secondary option. (since it'll have to seek to find the alternative commercial break)

DVD-BOY wrote: The Storyline Approach that DVD Studio Pro refers to is more commonly known as 'playlists', whereby you can re-arrange your chapters into a new order without increasing space on the disc.

This is the process i'll be looking into.  Do you know how it differs then seamless branching?  or is it just a similar term and the differences are in how the programs sort it out.

none

Bounty Hunters might just hang around the Empire activities, especially the command ship of DV, expecting work.   and if DV was on the bridge looking for the MF, then that's where the bounty hunters need to be brought, they came to DV and he was on the bridge.  (agree with LexX's the set was already built comment)

Seamless branching was also the term I too was familiar with, but looking through the glossary of DVD Studio Pro, they used the Storyline terminology.

All the options Chewtobacca mentioned are possible.  But for now this thread is for researching issues related to seamless branching/storylining.

Once the 'Preservation' forum thread is created then this might all change as the project specifics get discussed.  The projects inspiration is the tv format and separating out the elements for the convience of production, is something I can afford to look past at this time.

none

Anyone have experience creating alternative playback storylines options in DVDs? (not sure of the correct terminology) It sounds simple, just add chapter markers to the -in- & -out- points and then have the storyline skip or shift to the desired markers during playback. Curious what other issues to be aware of when starting this process.

The goal is to take a TV recording and have a playback option which skips the commercials. Possibly might have a third option which will offer up a second set of commercials instead of the original ones.

My initial concern is the main VOB, i'm guessing I should have the main feature contain all the video material, instead of moving the commercials to a separate VOB, since this will be a DVD9 project if they're moved playback will be stilted. Also the parts which will be swapped in the storylines should be edited so they are next to each other.

The other thing i'm afraid of is the 99 chapter marker limit. the SW movies have at least 50 by themselves, so with additional commercial breaks that's around 70-75, so with a double set of commercials, that's getting close to the limit.

Thinking out loud, any idea concerns suggestions welcomed.

none

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! (Krayt dragon fx)

oh wait yes.

Neeto.

Like these alternative views of our favorite films.

Bootleg Your "AN EMPIRE SPIK BOOTLEG" Viewing Experience!
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Bootlegs of bootlegs is phun! Show us what your re-experience was like. Take a picture of the back of your head watching your favorite part of the AESB. Interact with the film, act out your favorite part of one of the commentaries, go crazy. Sumdumbthing like dis:

Space for User Contributions:

Fan Commentaries
02.Left - 2004? : Renegade Commentary (Cube, Chris, Sooby) - http://www.zarban.com/?p=464
03.Left - 2008.02.22 : MMM! Commentary (Trevor, David, Geoff, Nathan, Andrew) - http://www.mmmcommentaries.com/commentaries/esb.htm
04.Left - 2008.02.28 : Aftershock (Brandon, Matt, Spot, Greg) - http://www.zarban.com/?p=797
05.Left - 2009.02.15 : Trivia War Podcast (Nerfherder Adam, Darth Robin) - http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podshows/4326118
06.Left - 2009.06.19 : Simple Tricks & Nonsense (Rob, Kyle, Ricky, Caleb) - http://stan.rociv.com/?p=170
07.Left - 2009.09.10 : The Speakeasy (The DR and Lynch) - http://speakeasy.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=524727
08.Left - 2009.12.12 : 300 Bucks Damage (Gord and Kev) - http://www.gordtep.com/?p=1201
02.Rght - 2010.04.05 : Two True Freaks! (Scott Gardner, Chris Honeywell) - http://twotruefreaks.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=600904
03.Rght - 2010.04.15 : Commentary Track Stars (Mike, Max, other Mike) - http://maxhegel.podbean.com/2010/04/15/star-wars-episode-v-the-empire-strikes-back-commentary/
04.Rght - 2010.05.10 : Voice of the Republic Commentary (Ed, Mike, Joel) - http://thevoiceoftherepublic.blogspot.com/2010/05/empire-strikes-back-vor-commentary.html
05.Rght - 2010.05.20 : This Week In Geek (Birdman and Double D)
06.Rght - 2010.05.21 : Force Cast (Jason Swank, Jimmy 'Mac' McInerney, Kyle Newman, Paul Bateman) - http://www.forcecast.net/story/showarchives/Special_The_Empire_Strikes_Back_Commentary_131455.asp
07.Rght - 2010.05.24 : Star Wars Action News (Arnie and Marjorie, callers) - http://www.swactionnews.com/archives/ep246.htm
08.Rght - 2010.06.10 : The Legion of Dudes (Ken, Russ, John, Jim, Adam) - http://www.hhwlod.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=693:lod-094-the-empire-strikes-back-30th-ann&catid=55:lo

EXTRA FEATURE
NYC NOBODY - Spike ESB Times Square Event Recording
via: http://www.youtube.com/user/nycitynobody

BONUS - Spike Commercials
01. Celebrating 30 Years
02. A 30th Birthday Bash
03. Star Wars Movie Marathon Work Out
04. Complete Saga Commercial (2008)
>> Spike - "There Is Much To Be Learned" Commercials
05. Competition Can Bring Out A Guy's Dark Side.
06. Never Assume Cute Means Harmless.
07. When Challenged, There Is Strength In Numbers.
08. If A Guy Looks Dangerous He Probably Is.
>> Other
09. Star Wars Roommates

Screen Caps

-- IMMINENT INFRINGEMENT --
>> SPIK + :F:D: Presents <<
>> AN EMPIRE SPIK BOOTLEG <<
>> Fan Commentary Edition <<
>> %20 Production <<

//// Tag Line ///
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"GET MORE LISTEN MORE"

//// Description ////
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via: StarWars.com (http://www.starwars.com/movies/episode-v/spike_esb30/index.html)

"It was a long time ago -- 30 years to be exact -- in a galaxy not so far away when Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back was first released to movie theaters. Considered by many to be the greatest movie sequel of all time"

via: Spike.com (http://www.spike.com/blog/spike-celebrates/95561)

"That is why Spike will be throwing a party on air and in Times Square. Spike is inviting its viewers and the trilogy's loyal fans to view a special simulcast of The Empire Strikes Back the same day at 4:00 PM ET on MTV's 44 1/2 foot video board."

via: SPIK
"I bring cam-corder. Record show. Nice Day. Wanted to do a live group commentary. Didn't happen..."

via: :F:D: (:F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: :D:A:T:A:B:A:S:E:)
"We received this bootleg of the ESB Spike broadcast in Times Square. Since there was no audio, %20 added fourteen fan commentary or ESB 30th anniversary podcasts which were sync'd up at the starting point of the crawl. Since a DVD can only have eight audio tracks, each of the commentaries were mono'd and shifted to the left or right channel. Use this disc to practice your audio shifting and commentary channel switching abilities, while you get an in-depth listen to the public's continued fascination with this movie sequel."

The results: "AN EMPIRE SPIK BOOTLEG - FAN COMMENTARY EDITION"

More Info / Download: http://noneinc.com/AESB/AESB-FAQ.html

Cover:

Bootleg Your "AN EMPIRE SPIK BOOTLEG" Viewing Experience!
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Bootlegs of bootlegs is phun! Show us what your re-experience was like. Take a picture of the back of your head watching your favorite part of the AESB. Interact with the film, act out your favorite part of one of the commentaries, go crazy. And we'll add them to the online FAQ!

Any effort made to keep the creations of this community alive is welcomed.

You'll have to explain your usual means.

SKot's been working on a Complete Commercial Project:  (but i'd love to see that commercials disc eitherway)

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/lt-The-Star-Wars-TV-Commercials-Project-gt/topic/5470/

That David Berry DVD was from the video posted to Vimeo last year?

The Super-8 DVD is the work of Puggo:

http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-details.cfm/Preservations/title/Star-Wars-The-Puggo-Edition/project/85/category/5/

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/ANH-dvd-test-clip/topic/3187/

2x dvd-r/movie (yes, that means switching discs, for the real laserdisc feeling)

Maybe you were thinking about that project.