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I've also sent a message to thethirdgathers.  When botw emerged multiple people located copies and if Winterson hadn't uploaded screen caps, others have said they were about to.  So cross your fingers and eventually we might be able to listen to this audio engrish dub.

These audio actors have got to be easier to track down then the original chinese subtitler.  Maybe the individual behind this backstroke version is a softie for Star War, so he got a pronunciation coach to teach him this engrish and they spent (the last 5 years?!, this is a big undertaking) learning and dubbing the subtitles.  Too weird, and too much phun.  Can't wait to hear the whole thing.

There's some answers to that question in the comments of the article.

http://starwars.com/vault/books/making_of_esb_sneak3/index.html

Vader's Castle artwork and i'd be a toymaker quote.

Dude, download the Audio Description version (UK or US) and bring a boom box and crank it from the back of the theater!!!!!!

Added: http://www.theaudiencestrikesback.com/

Great find, Botfew.  The transcript is read word for word from the chapter I just watched but the interesting thing is the non-words audio seems to be flawless.  the music cues and sound effects are there, it's just the audio's been replaced!  but this is upon first review (and i'm no expert) will try to play them all at the same time to check.

It's a direct read of the 'backstroke of the west' subtitles.  The most impressive part is most of the non-dialog sounds seem intact.  Check out chapter 25 towards the end, the music sounds like a match and even R2's beeps are there. 

Inside job perhaps?

I don't really get it. What has ripping off an old film got to do with being original?

You're not suppose to.  But we are meant to think so, look at these screen shots.  Whoever left this worked side by side with the source file.  Originality Ironyists always ride the wave of popularity to gain more numbers.  Look at that source file.  True Originality doesn't give the perception of being this accurate.  Only Originality Ironyists are this precise.

These are the same Corporate Behemoths who sold us our copies of the OT.  Why would Originality Ironyists be attempting to slughter the perception of originality?

*Looks around the internet*

If they tracked a new emerging realization of originality to plundered media repurposing they may realize that they've sold out too.  That will lead them back to the.... Schwartz!

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/17/jon-stewart-george-lucas-star-wars/

Star Wars junkie Jon Stewart will be spending some quality time with franchise creator George Lucas this August, EW.com has learned exclusively. The Daily Show host will interview Lucas live in a one-hour conversation at Star Wars Celebration V

via: tf.n

G4TV's Blair Herter and Blair Butler are on a mission to find all the latest information on Star Wars Celebration V, and the hosts will bring fans everything they need to know about exclusive collectibles, new games and a sneak peek at Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 3. If that isn't enough, G4 will sit down with the Jedi Master himself, George Lucas, as we celebrate the 30th anniversary of The Empire Strikes Back and look at what new adventures may come from a galaxy far, far away.

Don't miss Star Wars Strikes Back, June 17 9PM ET only on G4, right after their E3 '10 live coverage.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/SW-Line-Movies-Documentaries-Films-Shorts-Etc/topic/3569/

That thread lists other SW line docs.

"Tatooine or Bust" was made by the same person, Jason Wishnow, behind 'Star Wars or Bust'

http://www.wishnow.com/starwars/

Thanks for the tips, ended up doing most of what you suggested.

I had sent a dual layer master originally, since i didn't know there was the DDP format.  This was all new to me so made a few blunders but the discs came back and so far they seem fine. 

The press came back asking for new masters, after receiving the dual layer version, so figured out the DDP format, had to rebuild and reformat.  The problem is I couldn't 'play' the DDP files (to preview) so the disc name got screwed up and the DVD_ROM contents ended up in the main directly instead of a DVD_ROM folder.  Hopefully that won't cause playback problems in some players.

The DVDSP manual says very little about these DDP/CMF formats.  DVD-BOY suggested using version 2.0 but my logic might have lead me to use 2.1 (can't remember what i did use...).  Still don't know the specifics of the actual recordable dimension of LAYER0 on normal media and an officially pressed disc.

Finding an accurate split point turned out to be a horror, but eventually found a help suggestion in the tucows forums.  they suggest doing a temp build where you put in as many chapter markers as you can, then when you do the format you can see which markers fall into a practice split point.  Then you rebuild with the markers removed except for one which falls into your desired area.  Thought the short chapters would make for places to assign the split but since the disc was backed tight, ended up having to add a new marker for the split.  Turns out there was just a 15 second window to place the split without rebuilding with different bitrates or moving content between VTSs.

Also phucked up on the cover art, had set up for the font to be clear to the silver disc surface, but checked off the wrong box so they put in a white back surface which filled in the transparency. Pissed off about that...

Turns out even though my contact was in Australia (www.dualplover.com) the disc were manufactured in Taiwan. (http://www.tsti.com.tw/)

If anyone wants one, send a pm.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy2oqtFE0XE&feature=player_embedded

Associated Press coverage of ESB@30.  Interviews of cast. (via io9)

Hello, i've sent a DVD9 project to a factory for replication and they've come back with the following:

The split point on layer 0 and 1 is not exactly on the physical split point. If we proceed to production, there may be a risk of not playable in some players. Would you like us to proceed?

If you’re going to re-supply new master, can you supply master in two discs consists of Layer 0 and Layer 1.

Is there a significant difference between the way a home burned DVD9 works and a professionally factory created one? The project, tBSWM, has not received any play back problems. So i'm wondering how big of a concern this is. Is this issue more for very, very old DVD players?

The factory mentioned that the split point is not at the physical split point is the issue unfamiliar to me.

If this is a representation of the disc: (* = content , _ = unused disc space)

Layer 0 - Currently Authored
********************---
Layer 1 - Currently Authored
---******************---

Does this mean that the factory pressing would look like this.

Layer 0 - Factory Pressed
___*********************
Layer 1 - Factory Pressed
______******************

So if I resubmit as two DVD5, doesn't that screw up the Catalog track? Since the sectors would all now be shifted into a new location? Would they create a new catalog track? doesn't sound possible without reauthoring.

Anyone worked with CMF, Cutting Master Format? the DVDStudioPro book mentioned it. Have asked the factory if they work with CMFs.

What would you all recommend to do with this question?
thanks
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Found this: http://www.discmakers.com/authoring/source-dvd9.asp

and these paragraphs begin to explain some of the issues:

Creating a DVD with maximum compatibility involves more than just building your DVD and burning it to a DVD-(+)R. This is especially true when creating a DVD-9 master. The outside edge of a DVD disc is the most difficult part for the DVD player to read. For this reason the DVD Specification, which outlines rigorous standards for Data on and the physical makeup of DVD discs, specifies how far towards the outer edge of the disc data can be written. The exact specification is 58mm from the inside of the disc (or a 58mm radius). Any data written outside the 58mm radius may cause the DVD to skip, stutter, or not play beyond that point. When supplying a DLT tape or DDP on DVD master, this is not an issue, because you can control where the layer break occurs. However, supplying your master on a DVD-+(-)DL can be problematic. Originally the DVD-DL conformed to the 58mm radius specification. However, in an attempt to put more data on a DVD-DL, manufacturers have pushed beyond the 58mm restrictions and allow data to be written further towards the edge of the disc. This may result in a disc that fails due to the aforementioned issues.

So how do you ensure this won’t happen? The absolute best method for supplying a DVD-9 master to your replicator is on 2 DLT tapes (1 tape per layer) or DDPs on 2 DVD-R 5s. DLT tapes contain DDP (Data Description Protocol) files, a file format utilized by disc manufacturers to make a glass master. The DDP contains all the assets and information about the DVD including *region codes, copy protection, and layer break information something a DVD-DL will not contain. *(Read the sidebar on Region codes and copy protection on recordable DVDs). DVD authoring applications may have the ability to write to DLT tapes but requires purchasing a DLT machine. There are limitations to the type of machine and tape a replicator will accept. Best practice is to always call and find out their specific requirements. If you do not want to go the route of a DLT, with DVD Studio Pro™ you can write DDP files to DVD+(-) R discs. These DDPs are the same files you would write to a DLT. As with a DLT, a DVD-9 will require 2 DDPs on Discs one for each layer. Check with your replicator to see if they accept DDPs on disc and for their specific submission requirements.

Another but somewhat less reliable way to supply your DVD-9 master is on a DVD+(-)DL. Previously the only way to submit a DVD-9 master to a replication facility was on a DLT (Digital Linear Tape). But within the past few years, facilities have been accepting Dual layer recordable DVDs. These discs may or may not produce a suitable master. It’s important to understand that layer break information formatted in programs such as DVD Studio Pro™ do not carry over when burned to a DVD-DL (unlike with DDPs). The layer break is controlled by whatever disc burning software you use. Some programs will let you set the layer break and others will simply write to layer 0 until it is filled, then writes the remaining data to layer 1. This may result in data being written outside of the 58mm radius limitation leading to disc failure. If you have burning software that will let you set the layer break, you will need to calculate where the break will happen. For OTP DVDs layer 0 needs to be filled. This translates to 2,085,472 sectors or approx 4.07 GB. Placing the layer break beyond this point will result in violating the 58mm radius limitation.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=7451862

Thanks for the heads up, if anyone else sees any other broadcasts please post about them, thanks in advance.

Premake - ESB 1950

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmTpOQrqoO0

(via clubjade via wired via neatorama via thedailywh.at)

...and ...for ...something ...different ...Chewbacca ...snow ...trampoline:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cys1rzhpM94&feature=player_embedded

(via: http://dbsw.tumblr.com/)

google: "site:originaltrilogy.com/forum +your query"

It's finds most things, and it also can bring up topics which are beyond the purge level.  (General SW for instance tends to maintain a 2000 post count, things from around 2005 are slowly getting pruned)

this this the eFreedom post?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Why-Cant-We-Respect-Other-Peoples-Beliefs/post/404744/

http://www.starwars.com/vault/books/making_of_esb_sneak2/index.html (via TF.n)

More preview pages.  Focus is on logo design, some seem right out of 60s Batman.  Also summaries pieces of the Brackett script.

A key member (Laserman) disappeared.

Just like Yoda, except in a hospital.

For people like yourself learning what preservation work has been accomplished from these forums there is a thread which lists most of the projects.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-Index-Star-Wars-Preservation-and-Other-Projects/topic/2450/

That information is also available in a wiki, which if you do your own preservation you can put up information on it here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-list.cfm

As for the Bonus features, there's two sets which come to mind, Rowman and Editdroid.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Official-RowMan-Release-Thread/topic/2947/

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-EditDroid-Trilogy-DVD-Info-and-Feedback-Thread/topic/1703/

http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/05/george-lucas-lost.html

George Lucas sends letter to 'Lost'

George Lucas sent a letter to the producers of "Lost" where he finally admits he didn't plan "Star Wars" in advance. The letter was read aloud at a series finale-related party Thursday night. Here's the text:

  Congratulations on pulling off an amazing show. Don't tell anyone ... but when 'Star Wars' first came out, I didn't know where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you've planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other stories -- let's call them homages -- and you've got a series.

 

(some discussion in the 30 years of ESB thread starting here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Celebrating-30-years-of-Empire/post/412918/#TopicPost412918

But agree definitely thread worthy, was waiting for more people to finish reading it.

These were my initial thoughts from that thread:

Yeah it's a great look at where things began and how much tweaking George had to do to get it where it ended up. Shows how much of a great condenser and organizer he was.

Can't remember if there's been much written about the initial reception to this version of the script. It is odd, some of the language is off (spacer instead of spaceship, and death world instead of death star) Not sure how much Brackett was knowledgable of the original film. Rinzler's book will hopefully get into this, if not zombie's Secret History of Star Wars will. Surprised this leak isn't getting more attention, but things like this put you back in place.

Of the ideas in it, the clone issue could have been more interesting then the army it became, a society which on a cellular level modifies itself leaves for more possibilities. I'm thinking that maybe he was going to make Lando and the other clones be imposteurs to the senators and other govt officials this draft would have introduced in the third film, as you meet Han's uncle.

The Wookie army from the early SW drafts returns on cloud city but would again get removed and put off to RotJ.

Anyone familiar with script writing? Who does everyone think the hand writing might be, is it Brackett or possibly Lucas? Kasdan?

Like this Luke/Vader fight better then the whole i'm your father thing. (that decision made everyone a relative, and shrunk everything too much for me) This version gets into what it is to fall to the darkside. Vader toying with the learner.

Also interesting to see what they were thinking would happen at the Cloud City dinner between Vader and Han/Leia. Minch and Obi fighting! Lots of ideas which it's great to see how they got reworked to become what we're all familiar with.

If your curious how 'Star Wars' would play out if it had the backstroke subtitles, dbowgett found out and shares the confusion:

http://dbowgett.users.btopenworld.com/

What's the waybackmachine location of your old page? (here it is: http://www.geocities.com/m00002001/screenshot-test.htm)" target="_blank" title="web.archive.org/web/20071208214335/http://www.geocities.com/m00002001/screenshot-test.htm)">http://web.archive.org/web/20071208214335/http://www.geocities.com/m00002001/screenshot-test.htm) You wouldn't want to continue adding sources to the Zion page linked from the first post? It's a clean easy interface allowing side by side comparison. Is the image load that high that you wouldn't want to have it on the wiki?

EDIT

ok had never seen your comparison page, but the interface is probably where Zion started his.