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http://www.googleitbitch.com/?MTFBWY

I've been collecting all the movie and television programs which either were inspirations for or referenced SW movies and watched 633 recently.  Rereading my notes, there are terms which were reused: wing commander, blue leader, Hobbie.  A few lines "hold on this might be a little rough", "critically important operation, that's all gentleman, except good luck". (MTFBWY-like)  Similar scene sequence, briefing before battle for instance.   But for the most part this is probably one of the films GL cut-up to create his Death Star mock-up.  For instance at 57:20 there's a shot of a gun whose turrets pumps in and out, cockpit shots 14:25, formation breaks off and attacks 21:45.  So shot framing and battle sequencing are probably some of the things learned from this film.

We'll i'm making it official, I work for LFL, and yes the secret mistakes are actually on purpose factual efforts of inconsistent logic meant to be a semi-transparent attempt to coerce and cajole the inspiration declaration that the deliberate creative choices were in essence a matter of perspective ipsofacto viewed from the points of view of the mistakes actually makes it the correct deliberate creative mistake and when viewed conversely can only be proclaimed as the correct viewing parameters in which any and all Star Wars features should be viewed in.  Now yes, i'm not going on record so quoting me is pointless, especially as in two to three minutes i'll edit this post to make sure that this mistake to end all mistakes will only be remembered by the few page cache's who got here at the right time.  But that aside, THIS mistakeful proclamation which confirms the speculation that secretly your opinion matches those of yous who believe that Yes fixed does mean fixed when describing the mistakeful definition of deliberate creative decision making but only up to the point that the other's opinion differ so yeah who knows.  Funny story, but Who does know and he agrees with the second sentence of this mistakeful proclamation, and finds the first statement to be true, from a certain mistakeful view.  So as a fool, reread the second sentences second and the first sentence third, then follow back around and prove to yourself that they actually do know.  And please don't clutter with facts, that's just disgraceful.  So to recap, kenkraly2007 will the blu-ray's be not not fixed?

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Darth Mallwalker wrote:

Shirley the 'top men' are already working on it . . . Go Team!

A. Don't call kenkraly2007, Shirley.

B. The 'top men' have been sacked and replaced with the 'Top Men'.  There were rumors but they are going to use a new technique called 'Natural Vision' and side by side compare the old crusty version with the newfangled digital blu-hoo version.  Only 'Top Men' can be so trusting.  I mean trusted.

C. yes Go Team!  [G.enerally O.verrated T.op E.yed A.wesome M.en]

I would like to read this book!

Buy a used copy from any of the multitude of online book resellers!

I did and the books a good read! (think I paid a buck for the book!)

!!!!

So what's your book scanning process, Silverwook?

http://www.swactionnews.com/archives/ep266.htm

Interview with Rinzler.  starts about half way talking about other recent books [Sound of, Frames, Visions] (ESB ~40min)  Talk about the HS, Alan Arnold, LFL's tendency toward revisionism, archive searching, plus other stuff.

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Sorry I love slow developing drug history stories...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.656da7e054abfd32af35ccd9e46c1fc5.221&show_article=1

and some fantastic headline writing:

Star Wars' Ice Planet of Hoth Actually a Coke Den

Ahhh irrelevancy.

Vanity Fair is doing a series of interviews around the book:

Rinzler

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/10/jw-rinzler-talks-about-the-making-of-star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back.html

Bulloch

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/10/boba-fett-talks-about-the-empire-strikes-back-that-crazy-suit-and-the-star-wars-legacy.html

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And taxing trade routes is probably not the most effective way of doing that.

Like the intricacies of regional governance is all that exciting.

Note: replying to a post from the first page as if it was the most recent post, ain't priceless.   neverminds.

MUSICAL NOTES: The rough edit of Star Wars had a temporary track which used pieces of Gustav Holst's The Planets suite, snatches of Alex North's score for Cleopatra (Joseph L Mankiewicz, 1963) and selections from Bernard Hermann's music for Alfred Hitchcock.  Whilst these stock tracks helped create the right mood, there was never - as had been suggested since - the possibility of actually releasing the film with such a track.  Lucas wanted a rich, orchestral score, something old-fashioned and outdated at the time.  He knew it

***Not Sure*** but probably continues with:

should be reminiscent of Erich Wolfgang Korngold, the multi-award-winning film composer who had scored The Adventures of Robin Hood (Michael Curtz, 1938) and The Sea Hawk (Michael Curtiz, 1940), two of his moderls for Star Wars.

  Steven Spielberg introduced him to John Williams, who had

Was able to find the next bunch of sentences, but there's no footnote for that paragraph.

Can google get away with that?

This is partly a societal debate, do you want digital access to every book ever published?  and how do you balance people searching online through the books for research with people buying the books?

Here's an article on the debate:

http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/09/settling-the-google-book-debate-and-other-unicorn-fantasies/

Google has taken the lead (by hooking up with university libraries) but doesn't have the be the defacto digital book repository. Other people have started their scanning projects:

http://www.diybookscanner.org/

What great about google books search system is you can poke any search into alot of the books you might be familiar with. "Empire Building" has been scanned for instance. This whole system is in it's infancy, was at Maker Faire (http://www.makerfaire.com/) and there were a couple book scanning people there, the tech is really low, just a cheap digital camera and a wood and glass contraption. Flip the page, lower the glass, which triggers the camera, raise the glass, flip the page, lower the glass, etc. probably close to a 100 pages an hour. don't know about the OCR'ng after wards but with a group of proof readers from the public, errors could be fixed so the digital matches the print.

The other amazing thing there were the 3d printers. watching a machine print out an object is something else. Although crude and requiring some finishing everything was generic but among all the random stuff was a 3d printed Vader and Stormtrooper head.

http://vodpod.com/watch/1744394-makerbot-dreams-of-evil-darth-vader-heads

As for the early synopsis page, this must be page 1 of 2, the second page containing the plot layout for episodes 7-12 which GL had told Kenner's marketing department and Bantha Tracks around this time.

Sorry everyone, was not able to get the questions asked.  There was a schedule change which means I showed up too late.  He'll be there tomorrow, if someone is going.

Book so far is interesting.  Starts off with a yellow page synopsis from the GL note books of the storyline being 6 movies. 2-4 being the Clone Wars.  and Star Wars being episode 6.  I have the feeling in this early gestation period he experimented with multiple outline ideas.  and with what's going on in the SW universe at this time, this is the version to start the Making of ESB book...

That's great! are you OCR'ng it as well?  If you do you'll beat google books to it:

http://books.google.com/books?id=TPh4NQAACAAJ&dq=once+upon+a+galaxy+arnold&hl=en&ei=OOCvTMriDcT68AbkzcnTDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA

You know they are going to continue rewriting history, we define those changes in this forum.  He's never said he's written treatments for nine films, he's written the outlines.  Yet he told his marketing department at one point that there was twelve, this has all been documented.  The Revenge/Return story is more for the next book.

Sounds more like you'd like to know the type of information from the Arnold book which was included in the Making of ESB and what wasn't included.

Trying to get you to define the aspect which could make him reveal information he might normally not want to speak about.

I agree Arnold's book was created at a time when the SW machine was organizing itself and the creative process was what made it great, while now, the final products and maintaining that image is of utmost importance.

Maybe i'll ask him to shortly compare/contrast, his book vs Arnold's.

Can you explain why reading this particular book is so important?  If he responds yes/no where do i go from there?  Someone mentioned they already had the Making of ESB book, if it's mentioned in the Index, that still doesn't mean he's read it.  But why would he NOT have read the one definitely public behind the scenes account of this movie.  And if he hadn't, then what, the rest of the book becomes... what?

I would recommend running with the Kickstarter idea just so the price tag or technological purchases with man hour estimates is out there. 

Anyone speculate an estimate?  50k a movie, 200k a movie? then 2 hours man time for each frame clean up?

Going for the best sequence of events, I would imagine the Library of Congress 'Star Wars' copy being loaned to archivist Rick Prelinger, who'd figure out how to get the clean up work crowdsourced through Archive.org.

Doesn't quite answer if he's read the book based on those tapes.

Do you have a more pointed version of this question?

Congrats everyone, you've gotten someone in the good graces of LFL to state that if a publicly funded preservation was carried out it should be allowed to be shown in theaters unobstructed.

oh i see he takes this back in the comments.

SW Aficionado interview with Rinzler:

http://starwarsaficionado.blogspot.com/2010/10/jw-rinzler-on-writing-making-of-empire.html

He answers the Alan Arnold question.

Going to NYCC on saturday.

Look for:

Rattlehead wrote:

Isn't it rather silly that you searched my posts from 5 years ago rather than just decide to meet in a public place or not?  What was I going to do, rape or kill you on Star Tours?

It is not silly to research.  You can learn from what people have previously posted. 

It's my time, if doing a few quick searches provides information not to meet someone, that's the way it's going to be.

You've come in here looking for stuff.  Five years ago, you wanted people to tell you about the latest fan preservation, five years later it's people to hang out with you.

There might be a silver lining or some value in the end, but right now it's completely hidden behind rape and killing jokes.  yikes.

I mentioned in the Making of ESB book thread, that i'm there on saturday and am willing to ask some questions to Rinzler, please post them in that thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Making-of-Empire-Strikes-Back-pushed-back-to-October/topic/11307/

So if anybody'd like to say hello, i'll we wearing a shirt that looks like this:

I'll be handing out the few remaining copies of the documediamentary I made:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/topic/7758/

feel free to say hello.

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TV's Frink's done a JediTray.

Deleting things like this doesn't help.  If you've really changed your mind on these jokes, you can resize the image so they're very small and write an explanation why they were in poor taste.

There's a reason why it's called implied.  If you carried out everything action you saw or read, you'd have chopped off your dad's hand by now.