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"Frog Dreaming" (1986) aka The Quest aka Go-Kids

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091810/

The kid from E.T. in an Australian movie about a cursed pond.

One second lightsaber omage.

Last year a theater in Minnesota showed it as part of a Toys 4 Tots drive:

http://wcco.com/local/star.wars.holiday.2.1356544.html

AotC: It's the digital theatrical release, right?

 

the Episode II DVD is the DLP theatrical release with the Anakin/Padme scene in the Lars garage extended even beyond that.  Is this correct?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases

Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones DVD Release

• Several speeders were removed from a shot during the Bounty Hunter pursuit scene.
• New dialogue added to the scene where Anakin confesses to the Tusken slaughter.
• After Padmé falls out of the gunship on Geonosis, a clone trooper asks if she is all right. Her alert response of "Yes" has been changed to a more realistically groggy "Uh-huh."
• Anakin's mechanical hand now holds Padmé's hand during the closing wedding sequence (this was originally included in the DLP theatrical release of the film, but not in the 35 mm film version).
• During their duel on Kamino, a shot of Jango Fett headbutting Obi-Wan is removed from the UK version of the DVD.
• Jedi Coleman Trebor confronts Count Dooku on the lookout balcony during the battle of Geonosis. Trebor is instantly shot dead by Jango Fett. The following shot shows Jango twirling his blaster pistol before slotting it back into his holster. In the theatrical release, this was a solo shot of Jango, but the widescreen version of the DVD has Count Dooku in the foreground, smiling as Jango twirls his pistol.
• Moments before Mace Windu decapitates Jango Fett, sparks and a slight puff of smoke from Jango's jetpack can be seen, signifying that his jetpack malfunctioned.

No.

skyjedi2005 wrote:

We will never see the true theatrical trilogy ever again

from

Lucas

Someone else will do it.

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TV's Frink wrote:

Farewell, JediTray.  You provided me with lots of entertainment.

And yet you unearthed the smoking gun... 

Better ask AvP, he's been converting a whole lot of old SW preservation discs from a DVD-720/640 format to a native HD picture size.  If the original disc was packed tight, that might explain why the DVD-Rom stuff was pushed to the side.

Is there any online interface/software which can organize submitted photos into a timeline sequence?  The idea being what if all the behind the scene pics from the movies were placed into the movies general timeline and could them be played as the movie/slideshow.

Guessing the interface would have two graphical timelines. One for the movie, one for the submitted pics.  each of which could be scrubbed live and a small shot of the actual frame would be displayed.  if clicked on then a larger version would be shown.

Anyone seen anything like this?

The timeline feature has been inplemented in 0xdb.org (fantastic site, should be the future of interactive high density media)

example: http://0xdb.org/0xf02d4adf264f2247e656fa3a5b7036255d1b86b5?v=timeline

It's obvious they shot new footage of a guy in a Vader suit and inserted him into the castle background.  I can tell because the guy doesn't look anything like Prowse.

Well you are right, you aaarrrreeee right.  That's one of the rare, Sebastian Shaw in helmet shots!  Prowse was on Green Cross Duty, so they tried the other DV suit actors, below is Bob Anderson on the 'leave' location:

...think they tried to blame the photographer for that one. 

And James Earl Jones failed because he couldn't go two seconds with out a puff.

My hearing isn't what it used to be but wasn't Pacino deleted from the Jedi Archive?

Maybe from the Jedi Archives but not from Jedi4chan

Might as well put this thread to good use, and make it a Deleted Scene thread.  Some new pics have surfaced of Darth Vader at this Castle which was one of the scenes cut early on from ESB.  Interesting shot, showing DV deleting a local race of beings, would have been too difficult to film, but this pic says it all:

Zombie84 wrote:

I'm not sure what you are arguing here--that their (in)action is actually understanable?

Yes, that was the argument.

You know how much it costs to move a new LEGO set, or a Jar Jar Binks underwear package?

Those are not LFL costs. One of the problems of talking $ when it's a private company is we don't have a clear sense of where all the $ goes. For all we know there's some other new Pixar like development sucking down the cash, which convinces GL and LFL to have every project attempt to far out perform it's initial costs. High payback, since there could another dark time (late 80s) ahead. Complete guess, so don't pay this point much mind.  Also corporations bloat over time, they might have so many high cost pensions to settle that... ok stretching.

The 2004 set sold $100 million in sales...in its first day of release. It's first day. Not its first week, or first year. This is the kind of return you get.

Ok the guestimate from a cnn article is 4 million 2004 copies, compared to the .22 mil 2006 copies, 18 to 1. Sounds good to me, but who knows what LFL was contemplating internally (20-1???). I would guess those profits were dumped into the Clone Wars cartoon. Getting that system up and running and able to function for a few years without any profits probably ate those DVD sales. That was one of the behind the scenes things in the Making of ESB book, how the different companies gave loans to each other to keep the main project afloat.

Most of Lucasfilm have not been there from the beginning.

Howard Roffman (Licensing) is someone from the OT days still significant part of the company. (and his holy trinity CV presentation had him stating that George was God, HR was JC and 3po (ie SW) was the Holy Spirit - /Insert shivers here/) If all the licensing is to promote the brand, then they probably believe that having scarcity of the main draw is the worthwhile path. Also since with the continually evolving digital formats, skipping one might make the next a higher draw.

Agree for the time being, there will always be a portion of the general public willing to buy these movies, and as they push the re-re-re-releases from 5-10 years you gain a new crowd of 18-30 somethings. But I also think those new crowds would not be there if it wasn't for the new content.

Well, I will give Puggo credit here because what he is referencing is Lucas' comments made at the time of the release, which basically framed it in terms of a competetion to be decided by sales.

Here's the quote:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1531527/20060510/story.jhtml

"Lucas claims he's not re-releasing the originals to appease fans, but rather to bate them. "Now we'll find out whether they really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions," he said. "It'll all come out in the end.""

Shouldn't we have a nice collection of these statements by now... I agree it's number 95 out of 100 nails in this argument. But you don't hear them saying that the movies are not getting released on 'insert next format' because of the poor sales of GOUT. They don't want to put the nail in the coffin on the originals. They've Disneyfy the movies for a generation to watch how those kids grow up with them. Might that not appeal when they grow up? The ever changing versions/modifications don't seem as a killer, as a whole remake would be. They know there is a portion of the public who's into the way they were, closing that door is not in the strategy. Plus if as you say, the next owners of the franchise did have that epiphany moment with the OT, then isn't it safe to say that 'ding dong' once the creator's dead, the OT will resurface? But I guess you all are saying that there will be another turn over, ie the Clone Wars generation will be in power of LFL when GL is gone?

*scrambling for a good come back* Also with home video releases the trend is toward content beyond the movies, sure they will always be in a lesser quality, but they'll be available, and as citizens become more familiar with working with video, making their own OT will become more common place. At some point the synergy of web and the movies will happen, another impetus to keeping the OT permanently forgotten.

The other problem with flat out obstructivism by GL/LFL is if they were to flat out stop the OT they'd be dampening appreciation of the movies themselves.  "I feel the conflict within" them.  They want both sides of the coin, appreciation of the story telling but also the developments in the story/creation.  and you can't do that without stepping on the other.

But I also believe that the SW franchise will get crazy in the next 10-15 years as 3D printers allow anyone to print their own SW figures, thus lessening the toy licensing. In this same time the public will preserve a 35mm or 70mm version of the originals and distribute it, and the wave of lawsuits (few from LFL but mostly from other trade organizational bodies, yes the toy companies will form their own MPAA/RIAA). Will make SW a bleeker place to hang your fandom. And that's where Han Shooting First will resurface, GL's from the grave preservation turnaround to solidify some history books. Hoo Ha...

The other reason for this exercise is we've had a bunch of interjections from outside the forum, and I don't think they've gone over too well.  reacquainting with the details.

T.J. Hooker has Shatner, he's always in demand.

Han Deleted First! 

That's why you never saw the girlfriend!  His trigger finger also works on Moviolas.

Wow.  I wasn't aware that that many prostitutes had discerning opinions about Star Wars.

Well as generalfrevious (he's a big fan of the SWSWInsider) has pointed out, the entire SW fanbase has been on their backs taking it from 'the creator', who has done nothing, making us all complicit in the worst atrocity since the holocaust.  You obviously haven't been keeping up with the SWSWInsider. (Street Walker's Star Wars Insider)

Baronlando wrote:

This is why these guys are all such pissers, they don't care.

I think they do care (in a different way), but care enough to spend 10 million on clean up work, and 10 million for production fees, so that the public who has already bought several versions in the last 5 years can have a slightly upgraded copy, you can believe that's not caring.

Plus also realize that GL and some of the people at LFL have been there since the beginning. There was no 'awakening' for them. No magical spark, no 'Wow that was life altering.' SW has always been an undergoing process which is continuing to this day. Each development funds the next advancement.

How do you even argue with this mindset, it's like a different language.

It's a disagreement. Make your points, challenge where they are hypocritical. And if you want them preserved, figure out a way to help that cause.

Puggo wrote:

The way in which he issued the GOUT was a clever ploy to "prove" how poor the original one was. Now, most people walking the street believe Lucas' BS, based on the GOUT, and are thankful that he rescued it with the SE.

Don't have any stats to say one way or the other if the average street walker was the convincing opinion which proved that GOUT was worth the LFL time, (but i'll agree they do fund it) and i'll give a suggestion if you run into one. I'll say it again, besides quality. If you are going to say a movie is poorer because it only exists on laserdisc not DVD or blu-ray, that's fine, but it's not a point to hang your hat on. I can appreciate a piece of media on 240x160 if I have to. The 'Han shot first' debate is one of the essences of the OT, and there it was 220,00+ times from LFL. For your people walking the street, a simple side by side comparison of one or two scenes shows how the colors have differed once released on DVD. (the anamorphic issue for me goes close to the quality issue. many people are used to watching pan-scan versions of movies, filled with commercials) The average citizen can be shown proof of the differences, if they appreciate the change is up to them. That's why savestarwars.com will be successful in swaying hearts and minds.

Boost wrote:

If I stole all the food from an orphanage, put armed guards to keep other people from giving them food, and then give the children back a few handfuls of stale bread, I'm not exactly an altruist, no matter the #s.

Although films are a part of a healthy cultural diet and are food for thought, they're not food for living. Agree the GOUT wasn't done out of altruism.

Being able to keep a lock on all the food is what society currently allows to continue under the legality of copyright laws. I'm all for an amendment which allows the age of orphaned works to return to 14 years so that children's children can get re-aquainted with lost works.

Taking some of the best looking movies of all time, with then cutting edge effects that still look amazing, and making them look like poop is fairly damaging to their essence.

There's a good point. (not the poop part that's just crap)  The SE fans will counter with 'the computer effects allow for more active camera angles.' And you all will have to counter with the value of the original effects, like the model differences between X-Wings which was mostly lost by Knoll and friends, or ????

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/10/grant-imaharas-secret-star-wars-identity/

Story about other promotional events where 3po made an appearance, but with Mythbuster's Grant Imahara in the suit.

dangnabit. I was just about to reaching some kind of mental resolution on Firefly...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kGODn0S5gtYJ:www.getelyriasingles.com/a-good-girl-looking-for-a-good-guy-elyria-oh-331041.html+kenkraly2007&cd=20&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Hey my first double post!

dangnabit.  I was just reaching some kind of mental resolution on Firefly...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kGODn0S5gtYJ:www.getelyriasingles.com/a-good-girl-looking-for-a-good-guy-elyria-oh-331041.html+kenkraly2007&cd=20&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a