Thanks everyone for taking the time to answer my questions/responding to my speculations and thoughts. It's a lot easier than wading through over a thousand pages.
I'm excited to be a part of the RotJ:R thread from the beginning, so I can also be a completely informed individual :)
I know they won't be in 1080p, I was mostly joking (I am holding out for the PT to be in 1080p. Considering how fast technology is moving forward, I wouldn't be surprised if internet speeds and burnable media allowed for it by the time Ady finishes them.)
Muddy, nice personal sacrifice for the project! I will say though, simple donations are a nice option because I can easily send $20 your way, but it's hard to bid on an ebay lot :(
To my original point about purchasing a new Top-of-the-Line PC for Ady, I think that is a reasonable donation goal that could stay open for quite a while. We'd probably have the money raised by the time Ady is ready for RotJ:R, and considering the potential speed increases with the latest CPUs and GPUs, the project would go that much faster. He'd be able to implement his ideas in real-time, virtually unhindered by potential loading and rendering.
I was hoping to donate as well... Very excited that donations were met that quickly, but hoping there might be another opportunity. Maybe we can start donating to get Ady a top of the line PC so ROTJ:R and ANH:R:HD can be 1080p :)
You underestimate his power!
Awesome, I get a chance to donate :)
Ady posted some info over on the facebook page I haven't seen mentioned here:
i'm using the 6.1 DTS-HD tracks as a basis for the audio, but it will be a new mix due to all the extra elements and edits. The rear centre channel is probably the lamest channel i have ever heard in a 6.1 mix. there are only about 4 times thought the whole movie that any effects come out of the channel and that is only a split second effect. Plus the rear left/right channels are pretty lame too, with really hard music edit cuts that just suddenly come in, or ambient effects that just suddenly stop for no reason. This mix is going to be ultra surround sound. Due to the nature of this edit there is no way i can use the theatrical PCM tracks
The blu-ray version will be a BD-25. The sound mix will be a DTS-HD 6.1 mix on the blu-ray and a AC3 5.1 mix on the DVDs. When i say "ultra surround" i mean a mix that actually utilises all 7 speakers instead of just some music and sound effects now and then.
He'd be able to act simply as a guard to Palpatine in that circumstance. He is always in disguise anyway. Considering the fact that a lot of Anakin's actions hinged on Padme, I couldn't see Palpatine telling him to just forget her. Instead, I see him stringing Vader along on promises of possible resurrection. Attending the funeral, seeing her dead seems like it would help that along nicely.
I seem to remember having discussed this somewhere... with someone... So I figured I'd start a thread.
Considering the fact that Vader is visibly shaken by Padme's death ("Noooo!"), wouldn't you assume that he would be grieving at her funeral? I never understood why him and Palpatine were not in the procession - one of her oldest friends/colleagues, and her husband. Even if news had spread that Anakin had killed her, the Emperor's executive powers would bypass any attempt to block him from being there.
bobgarcia74 nice clip :) To further your concept, I would cut "Have you ever encountered a Jedi Knight before" and jump straight to "seal off the bridge"
As for how to cut scenes like that, it all depends on the scene. For the escape pod sequence, I personally would show it being deployed, and give the impression the droids short circuited/passed out, and "woke up" with the Jawas.
I was able to cut Ep. 1 down to an hour, so that may be a way to start... get each film to an hour, then cut them down from there. 6 hours to 4 is going to be much easier than 14 hours to 4.
I don't think the Clone Wars has been a disaster at all, with the exception of the film. By releasing it in theaters, George broke a barrier between Star Wars the entertainment machine, and Star Wars the Film Franchise - this paved the way for the 3D novelty releases.
The one problem I have with TCW is that it takes away what little life the PT had - for all the complaints, and slight inconsistancies, when I watched RotS, I remember feeling a sense of completion. That feeling is kind of diminished.
However, I personally can't place blame - There are kids who LOVE TCW. I personally enjoyed the 3D conversion of TPM more than without it. And we live in a society built on capitalism, where you have to keep at it to continue to earn and make a mark.
If anything, I believe that rather than bitching about everything LFL does, we need to start a general campaign to change copyright laws, forcing film companies to submit a digital, lossless copy of every film ever made or that will be made in the future. Beyond that, not only should the original version be made available, but also any version that is made commercially available. With that in mind, Star Wars would need to be provided "Pre-ANH", with the crawl change, 97SE, 2004SE, BluRay, and then 3D. Stored Digitally, this wouldn't take up much space. And the Library of Congress would possess all of these films... I believe this law change could be pushed through as a "Protection of future inherited public properties"
Mike O said:
Mielr said:
DavidBrennan said:
Any people with distaste for the current state of the SW "brand" or LFL in general feel any vindication by the floppage of TPM 3D?
I do. And even if it ends up making a profit, I'll still consider it a "flop" because the standards have been set higher by the franchise, tarnished or not.
As far as the marketing goes, I must be watching the wrong channels because I think I saw a total of ONE tv commercial for TPM3D and only one or two posters at bus stops. :-?
Being a year behind on my Wittertainment and hearing Mark pontificate about the "death of the 3-D," the vindictive bastard in me is hoping that the fad will be in its death throes by the end of the AOTC relelease and LFL won't get to the OT and will lose big time. But the realist in me knows that the OT will do gangbusters in the theaters, even with the Amazon backlash and people knowing full well it's not the original film, and will just be another nail in the OOT's coffin.
The strange thing is... I think that the negative feelings about Star Wars are beginning to spread to the general public. Sitting through TPM in a theater again really showed how bad of a film it was... I've never seen so many people sleeping through a midnight premier or a 3D film.
I think that, combined with such offensive changes as "Nooooo!" have forced even casual Star Wars fans to be on guard. I would assume more and more people are going to be against large scale experiences like Theater viewings, simply to avoid overshadowing their fond memories of watching the films in the Theater, while they were still pure and great.
The Bluray was proof that Lucas doesn't care, as he has total control over the films. I'm guessing control over games, etc. is a little more spread out, and the people creating them and testing them probably love Star Wars quite a bit... easily enough to have made their way here.
topdawg193 said:
And then, with regards to the actual, physical, battle that must occur, many martial arts that inculcate the Taoist thought are concerned with using one's opponent against themselves, by allowing their rash offence to be countered and repelled back unto themselves through a clear-minded defence, via grapples, holds, blocks, and such.
First of all, I would like to say that was very enlightening to read.
However, I would like to say that there is a difference between hand to hand combat and fighting with a weapon, simply in the fact that your limbs are always there, prepared to be used in that defensive method. With a weapon, it is important that the person on defense actually have their weapon drawn first, so as to block the initial attack.
For all the flack the prequels get, RotS has always been held in higher esteem than the other two. So I think it is reasonable to reconcile between that film and the OT, even if I feel Eps 1 and 2 should be made to match the rest.
Rather than use that as a reasoning, I'd point to Yoda telling Luke he must "confront" Vader, giving the impression of initiating a battle. Also, Obi-Wan stating that if Luke will not kill Vader, "The Emperor has already won". Both statements give reasonable support to a Jedi being the aggressor in a battle.
If anyone ever has wondered what it would be like to have a different actor play (or dub) Anakin, here is the *better* actor from the audition screen tests, dubbed into the film. Just did this mockup - REALLY hoping to see something like this integrated into fanedits!
btw, watch in 1080p, much better :)
Considering the review gives a framework for the edit, a hoax cut based on that could still be enjoyable.
oh_riginal said:
I like how they start off chatting, showing that there is a friendship between them before getting to business, so to speak. The script version feels too much like exactly that: a scripted conversation. The theatrical edit drops in on the mid-conversation which, to me, feels more natural and even makes the actors' performances better.
Couldn't have said it better.
I feel the opposite way about this. I feel that the ANH:R version of it gives the feeling that they aren't incredibly close, and thus have been engaged in simple small talk prior to R2's message. Much better than truly attempting to break into the middle of a conversation.
Obi-Wan was sent to watch over Luke, but was probably waiting for a sign of some sort before he acted (giving Luke a lightsaber, etc.) Without hearing the message, Obi-Wan has no reason to blow his cover and act.
After hearing the message, he has to quickly convince Luke to help him. He does so by telling him a bit about his father, etc, hoping to build some more trust. After all, why would someone watching from afar have a close relationship with the person they're watching?
I definitely hope it stays this way.
Is there a comparison video for Ady's version of Bens hut vs original? I'm not sure exactly what was changed.
I hope not... 3P0's line without "the princess" always makes me smile, because it is the first completely obvious difference, reassuring me that I'm watching the right version of ANH :)
Not sure if this has been asked...
When ANH:R is redone in HD, will we be getting both Regular and Purist editions again?
Haven't you seen the 2004 SE DVDs? It was George's intention that EVERYTHING be blue :P
zombie84 said:
I guess he meant that sometimes when blue-screen in done poorly you get bluescreen spill, which would make neutral coloured objects have blue halos, and because of black-level issues in optical printing they sometimes print blueish (they also often print pink and green).
Correct. Am I the only that's seeing it that way?
The amusing thing here is that the title of this is actually partially true. The BluRay set includes the THX Optimizer, which (in the future) will communicate with THX Optimized TVs, Players, and Recievers to alter your home viewing experience to exactly what George intends it to be...
I have less of a problem with the color of the TIE fighters than I do with the way that they mesh with the background. The gray found in ANH:R helped a lot with that, and that's why I like the coloring. To me, the blue fighters stand out like obvious blue screen work, often making them seem to be at a VERY different depth than anything else in the film. Perhaps if this was changed, I'd be more content with the blue.
Why do you need to own the Bluray version if you only intend to get an SD version of the edit?
I will say that Bluray, even output at 480i, is far superior to DVD. Color is WAY better, and the clarity does not suffer from MPEG artifacting, thus giving you a crisp and clean image. Definitely still worth it to buy, though not as much as it would be for larger screens/resolutions.
These benefits are lost when BluRay sourced edits are released as a standard DVD.
As a gift for donating, its not for "profit", but I get the point...
So many gray areas and fine lines... especially when attempting to fly under the radar...