nightstalkerpoet

I definitely see what you mean, trying to maintain continuity between the three. Empire always seems to be the odd man out because it is the only one the intense blue filter even slightly worked for.

Looking through the shots again, it could be the contrast throwing me off. The problem with Empire is that most scenes are either all bright or all dark. Contrasting colors and lighting don't seem to be used near as frequently as in the others, SW especially. I understand the effort to avoid the digital look, but I do think that contrast levels shouldn't be lowered quite so much for Empire.

Color wise, the two shots that stand out to me are Regraded 1 and Regraded 9.

If you compare the skin tones to the wall/room color in the original Blu shots, they contrast quite a bit. Wall tones are white, skin has a slight red hue to it. In the regraded shots, both the skin AND the wall have been altered to appear more yellowish. The skin tone is just about dead on, but with the surroundings also taking on so much of that same hue, it makes the color correction a little less seemless in that as a viewer, it kind of feels like a blanket color shift has been applied (like the teal shift in AOTC, though not nearly as obvious).

I can completely respect your reasoning, and I don't mean to nitpick. Your work looks stellar and I look forward to having the time to view your edits in their entirety soon.

Edit (redited):

Here are a few mockups using gimp. I lowered the yellow saturation by 17 and raised the contrast by 2.

Bluray is on top, kk650 2.1 is middle, and kk650 2.1 + tweaks is on the bottom

Loved the screencaps for Star Wars... These ESB shots all seem a shade too yellow for my liking, and also makes a few of the shots appear more washed out (the details are there, but less visible). Just throwing in my $.2

Anakin was crazy powerful though. Or is intended to be. It doesn't seem beyond possibility he would figure it out quickly.

My suggestion is Seciors 1 and 2, L8wrtr's 3. Been watching this way the last while and I'm pretty happy with it.

The Q2 saga doesn't quite do it for me, but I will say that it is very streamlined and professional, and offers a very nice consistent trilogy.

I personally feel their noses should wiggle

RotJ:R

Should all ewoks blink, or none of them?

Perhaps your next version of Jedi should be 1.8 then, to distinguish the difference from the 2.x set that incorporates 35mm footage?

Now can't wait until Empire Revisited comes out - splicing Adywan's Emperor hologram into DESB 2.0 might well be my preferred ultimate version!

I've always wondered if using a high end Upscaling player with a PC capture card would yeild better results for the GOUT. Running 1080p from a Toshiba XA2 or an Oppo seems it could be a better option than software upscaling.

brash_stryker said:

For me, it would have to be a slightly more mystical setting than a landing pad though ;)

One potential issue is that this deleted scene was only included on the DVD, not the Blu-Ray so resolution might be an issue.

I agree on the landing pad thing - sadly, it's the only scene I see that really working for... Though, having it in such a commonplace setting goes to show that it is a normal Jedi occurrence.

I'd almost think the fact that it's a DVD scene would make it lend itself  to the change easier. Make the changes at DVD resolution, then upconvert the whole sequence - it might make the addition blend better, despite standing out some among HD footage (1080p edits will struggle far more with this, but with Revisited at 720p it shouldn't be too bad to include DVD-sourced footage)

Okay, this would take a huge amount of work, but I think it is almost possible...

In AotC, Obi-Wan talks to Mace and Yoda about Anakin not being ready. Most edits replace this with the superior Obi-Wan/Mace deleted scene. I suggest we got a bit further.

What if Mace was replaced in this scene with a Force Ghost of Qui-Gonn. You'd have to find a Liam Niesen lookalike and someone who sounds like him (luckily, you wouldn't need both to be the same person). This sets up a precedence for Force Ghosts in the OT (without an awkward RotS explanation), and makes the living council seem less ignorant - Yoda and Mace shouldn't have sent Anakin on the mission, knowing of his attachments. Qui-Gonn, however, has a determined faith that blinds him a bit and thus adds motivation and depth to the dialogue in the scene. Of course it would have to be edited down so it seems Obi-Wan is talking to Qui-Gonn, but I really think it could work.

Scene Dialogue (Edits in Caps/Strikeouts)

Obi: It appears someone doesn't want us to know about this Kamino system.

Mace/QG: Which means there's something happening on that system we should know about.

Obi: Master, do you think a Jedi could have erased those files?

Mace/QG: I hope not. This disturbance in the force is making it hard to get a sense of things.

Obi: I'm concerned for my padawan ANAKIN. He is not ready to be on his own.

Mace/QG: If the prophecy is true, he is the one who will bring balance to the force.

Obi: But he still has much to learn. His skills have made him, well, arrogant. I realize now what you and master Yoda knew from the beginning, the boy was too old to start his training. Master, we should not have been given this assignment. I fear Anakin will not be able to protect the Senator. 

Mace/QG: Why?

Obi: He has an emotional connection with her. It's been there since he was a boy. Now he's... confused, distracted. (this would be hard to change since it is a continuous shot.)

Mace/QG: Obi-Wan, you must have faith that he will choose the right path.

Obi: Yes, Master.

QG: MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/rian-johnson-to-write-direct-next-two-films-1201226481/

https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/480056853435396096 

I'll grab it and up it Somewhere else. 

Come on people, let's get back to the topic at hand: incest and daddy issues. This is the ESB:R thread after all ;)

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Ady posted on Facebook that he is currently low on space in his house due to working on Han in Carbonite... subtle little status update.

No worries, welcome to the party :-) 

I wouldn't mind seeing Luke on Tatooine, visiting his aunt and uncle's graves. It always bugged me in Star Wars that he got over their deaths so quickly and never mentions them again. They raised him, and he was far more impacted by Obi Wan's death.

It feels incredibly RotJ though - like Jabba combined with the guard combined with the rancor.

Gotta love those headlights :D

Will it also be able to find, bring, and bind them? ;)

Maybe something akin to the Close Encounters blu.

Or maybe the Blade Runner 5 versions set. Just restore all of them :)

I've been considering the deleted scene of Padme addressing the Senate. I don't feel you need to see the assassination attempt, it's discussed enough. If you lead with that, then the meeting in Palpatine's office, then the elevator scene. It might be less jarring.

Alright, 3 in 1 edits of the PT seem to be all the rage right now, so I figured I’d throw out my concept for how to make a film like this work with a more Star Warsy feel.

The plot from The Phantom Menace would have to be drastically altered - but I believe this could be achieved with very little work.

The Opening crawl could detail the fact that The Queen of Naboo traveled to Coruscant to seek the assistance of the Galactic Senate and the Jedi to rescue her planet from the clutches of the Federation and it’s Mysterious Sith Leader (Darth Maul). While attempting to leave Coruscant, their ship is attacked (the blockade from  leaving Naboo in the original).

The Ship is damaged and they have to land on Tatooine to get it repaired. Jar Jar can either be cut down to a minimum, or redubbed as a guide on Tatooine.

Cut the initial battle between Qui-Gon, Darth Maul on Tatooine. Anakin says goodbye to his mom, then they’re on the ship.

They go straight from Tatooine to Naboo to rescue it from the Federation/destroy its leader. As such, you don’t ever have to show the Nemoidians or much of the Queen/pilots/Anakin/(no Gungans needed). You show Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan beat Darth Maul. Then Obi-Wan promises Qui-Gon he’ll train Anakin…

cut to 10 years later and the elevator scene. Follow the main sequence of events - They catch Zam. Subtitle her as saying a bounty hunter from Geonosis. Anakin NEEDS to talk to Palpatine.

Cut out all of Kamino - there are enough mentions of the senate voting on a clone army without having to ever deal with the planet or the specifics.

Keep Obi-Wan and Jango in the Asteroid Field, and Obi-Wan exploring Geonosis. Intercut it with much longer sequences of Anakin and Padme falling in love, going to tatooine, rescuing his mom, then heading to Geonosis. No Sand People slaughter.

Big end battle, no Yoda saber (guilty pleasure of mine, but no time for it here)

trim down RotS to about an hour as a climax to the film - minimal Obi-Wan (no room for birth of the Republic). Cut Order 66 except for Obi-Wan and Yoda. ANH makes it clear Vader hunted down and destroyed the Jedi. Avoid as much Bail Organa as possible. No birth of twins, no Yoda rescue.

Seems like it could flow nicely. Thoughts, comments?

I just wish that we had a film where for the duration, Anakin was a skilled, devoted Jedi. 

With proper dubbing, anytime "Grievous" is said, the mouth movement could also be adequately matched to "Vader" - give the General a makeover with a Vader Mask, that could be the swap.

My question - is there any way that the battle from the beginning of Revenge of the Sith could be moved to later in the film, so Dooku gets killed a lot later, showing Palpatine's influence growing?

I always felt that Revenge of the Sith worked better if Anakin DOESN'T kill the Sand People in Attack of the Clones. Just have his mom die in his arms, bring her back, have Anakin rant about wanting to be a better Jedi to Padme. Giving him some level of self control makes his fall more powerful later on. Otherwise, it isn't really a fall at all, but a realization of a flaw that was OBVIOUS and makes everyone around him look stupid.

I'm not well versed in the EU, but the impression I get from the films is something like this:

The Rebel Fighters vs TIE fighters isn't the true comparison.

The comparison is more along the lines of Rebel Fighters vs a Star Destoyer and a fleet of TIE fighters. The Star Destroyer is packing a much larger punch, but lacks the speed and maneuverability. The TIE fighters have some speed and maneuverability, but lack much power and are reliant on being close range to a central docking space.

Rebel Fighters are a nice combination of features, each working together as an equally important part of the whole.

The entire hierarchy being represented in the Empire vs Rebels is shown quite plainly here in the approaches to aerial combat. The Empire, with a dictatorship and the Rebels working democratically.