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brash_stryker said:

For me, it would have to be a slightly more mystical setting than a landing pad though ;)

One potential issue is that this deleted scene was only included on the DVD, not the Blu-Ray so resolution might be an issue.

I agree on the landing pad thing - sadly, it's the only scene I see that really working for... Though, having it in such a commonplace setting goes to show that it is a normal Jedi occurrence.

I'd almost think the fact that it's a DVD scene would make it lend itself  to the change easier. Make the changes at DVD resolution, then upconvert the whole sequence - it might make the addition blend better, despite standing out some among HD footage (1080p edits will struggle far more with this, but with Revisited at 720p it shouldn't be too bad to include DVD-sourced footage)

Okay, this would take a huge amount of work, but I think it is almost possible...

In AotC, Obi-Wan talks to Mace and Yoda about Anakin not being ready. Most edits replace this with the superior Obi-Wan/Mace deleted scene. I suggest we got a bit further.

What if Mace was replaced in this scene with a Force Ghost of Qui-Gonn. You'd have to find a Liam Niesen lookalike and someone who sounds like him (luckily, you wouldn't need both to be the same person). This sets up a precedence for Force Ghosts in the OT (without an awkward RotS explanation), and makes the living council seem less ignorant - Yoda and Mace shouldn't have sent Anakin on the mission, knowing of his attachments. Qui-Gonn, however, has a determined faith that blinds him a bit and thus adds motivation and depth to the dialogue in the scene. Of course it would have to be edited down so it seems Obi-Wan is talking to Qui-Gonn, but I really think it could work.

Scene Dialogue (Edits in Caps/Strikeouts)

Obi: It appears someone doesn't want us to know about this Kamino system.

Mace/QG: Which means there's something happening on that system we should know about.

Obi: Master, do you think a Jedi could have erased those files?

Mace/QG: I hope not. This disturbance in the force is making it hard to get a sense of things.

Obi: I'm concerned for my padawan ANAKIN. He is not ready to be on his own.

Mace/QG: If the prophecy is true, he is the one who will bring balance to the force.

Obi: But he still has much to learn. His skills have made him, well, arrogant. I realize now what you and master Yoda knew from the beginning, the boy was too old to start his training. Master, we should not have been given this assignment. I fear Anakin will not be able to protect the Senator. 

Mace/QG: Why?

Obi: He has an emotional connection with her. It's been there since he was a boy. Now he's... confused, distracted. (this would be hard to change since it is a continuous shot.)

Mace/QG: Obi-Wan, you must have faith that he will choose the right path.

Obi: Yes, Master.

QG: MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU.

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https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/480056853435396096 

I'll grab it and up it Somewhere else. 

Come on people, let's get back to the topic at hand: incest and daddy issues. This is the ESB:R thread after all ;)

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Ady posted on Facebook that he is currently low on space in his house due to working on Han in Carbonite... subtle little status update.

No worries, welcome to the party :-) 

I wouldn't mind seeing Luke on Tatooine, visiting his aunt and uncle's graves. It always bugged me in Star Wars that he got over their deaths so quickly and never mentions them again. They raised him, and he was far more impacted by Obi Wan's death.

It feels incredibly RotJ though - like Jabba combined with the guard combined with the rancor.

Gotta love those headlights :D

Will it also be able to find, bring, and bind them? ;)

Maybe something akin to the Close Encounters blu.

Or maybe the Blade Runner 5 versions set. Just restore all of them :)

I've been considering the deleted scene of Padme addressing the Senate. I don't feel you need to see the assassination attempt, it's discussed enough. If you lead with that, then the meeting in Palpatine's office, then the elevator scene. It might be less jarring.

Alright, 3 in 1 edits of the PT seem to be all the rage right now, so I figured I’d throw out my concept for how to make a film like this work with a more Star Warsy feel.

The plot from The Phantom Menace would have to be drastically altered - but I believe this could be achieved with very little work.

The Opening crawl could detail the fact that The Queen of Naboo traveled to Coruscant to seek the assistance of the Galactic Senate and the Jedi to rescue her planet from the clutches of the Federation and it’s Mysterious Sith Leader (Darth Maul). While attempting to leave Coruscant, their ship is attacked (the blockade from  leaving Naboo in the original).

The Ship is damaged and they have to land on Tatooine to get it repaired. Jar Jar can either be cut down to a minimum, or redubbed as a guide on Tatooine.

Cut the initial battle between Qui-Gon, Darth Maul on Tatooine. Anakin says goodbye to his mom, then they’re on the ship.

They go straight from Tatooine to Naboo to rescue it from the Federation/destroy its leader. As such, you don’t ever have to show the Nemoidians or much of the Queen/pilots/Anakin/(no Gungans needed). You show Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan beat Darth Maul. Then Obi-Wan promises Qui-Gon he’ll train Anakin…

cut to 10 years later and the elevator scene. Follow the main sequence of events - They catch Zam. Subtitle her as saying a bounty hunter from Geonosis. Anakin NEEDS to talk to Palpatine.

Cut out all of Kamino - there are enough mentions of the senate voting on a clone army without having to ever deal with the planet or the specifics.

Keep Obi-Wan and Jango in the Asteroid Field, and Obi-Wan exploring Geonosis. Intercut it with much longer sequences of Anakin and Padme falling in love, going to tatooine, rescuing his mom, then heading to Geonosis. No Sand People slaughter.

Big end battle, no Yoda saber (guilty pleasure of mine, but no time for it here)

trim down RotS to about an hour as a climax to the film - minimal Obi-Wan (no room for birth of the Republic). Cut Order 66 except for Obi-Wan and Yoda. ANH makes it clear Vader hunted down and destroyed the Jedi. Avoid as much Bail Organa as possible. No birth of twins, no Yoda rescue.

Seems like it could flow nicely. Thoughts, comments?

I just wish that we had a film where for the duration, Anakin was a skilled, devoted Jedi. 

With proper dubbing, anytime "Grievous" is said, the mouth movement could also be adequately matched to "Vader" - give the General a makeover with a Vader Mask, that could be the swap.

My question - is there any way that the battle from the beginning of Revenge of the Sith could be moved to later in the film, so Dooku gets killed a lot later, showing Palpatine's influence growing?

I always felt that Revenge of the Sith worked better if Anakin DOESN'T kill the Sand People in Attack of the Clones. Just have his mom die in his arms, bring her back, have Anakin rant about wanting to be a better Jedi to Padme. Giving him some level of self control makes his fall more powerful later on. Otherwise, it isn't really a fall at all, but a realization of a flaw that was OBVIOUS and makes everyone around him look stupid.

I'm not well versed in the EU, but the impression I get from the films is something like this:

The Rebel Fighters vs TIE fighters isn't the true comparison.

The comparison is more along the lines of Rebel Fighters vs a Star Destoyer and a fleet of TIE fighters. The Star Destroyer is packing a much larger punch, but lacks the speed and maneuverability. The TIE fighters have some speed and maneuverability, but lack much power and are reliant on being close range to a central docking space.

Rebel Fighters are a nice combination of features, each working together as an equally important part of the whole.

The entire hierarchy being represented in the Empire vs Rebels is shown quite plainly here in the approaches to aerial combat. The Empire, with a dictatorship and the Rebels working democratically.

I've always wondered if getting a top of the line upscaling-DVD player and doing a lossless capture of the 1080p output could be a decent way of doing this? Perhaps Oppo, or the Toshiba XA2 HD-DVD player.

I suggest Dawn of the Empire from L8wrtr. He completely rearranges the order things happen in to tell a better story. And it works :)

I'm running through a marathon comprised of:

Seciors Ep 1 - Return of the Sith

Seciors Ep 2 - Army of the Republic

L8wrtr  Ep 3 - Dawn of the Empire

Adywan Ep 4 - Revisited

BluRay Ep 5 - Official - (any suggestions on a different version to watch utnil Ady's comes out?)

Q2's Ep 6 - Removes Hayden and NOOOOO!

What are you up to on this most holy and Force-ful of days?

Hey, could you re-up ADigitalMan's Clone Wars 2.5? It shows on .info to be on Megashares, but the DLC goes to Rapidshare.

Not sure if anyone has ever suggested this:

If Episode 1 is skipped, is there any way that AotC could be edited in such a way that Padme and Anakin haven't met before? More of a he meets her then falls in love sort of thing? Also, perhaps he could NOT kill the Sand People?

The Empire thread has been full of Ewoks lately -

What if the Ewoks we see are only the young/teens?

Could Ady add in beastly, 7 ft tall, full grown ewoks? Create a few costumes similar to the Wampa for it, film them, and drop them into the scenes that are already there. Maybe add a couple shots of them clobbering troopers.

To me, "young Skywalker" is far more personal, and implies that Luke is so well known across the galaxy that you don't even need to use his first name. It makes it far less impressive that the Emperor is giving this information to Vader. The Emperor is this mysterious figure at this point, and his knowledge of Luke is a sign of his power and influence.

Reporting "Luke Skywalker" conveys this in a far more meaningful way.

^I believe that would be "when it is almost done"

I'm not particularly fond of the "cameo" approach at all; the PT did definitely fail in this regard.

However, something I've heard over and over again is that the PT is far too "jedi-centric", and that it would be really cool to see how everything is affecting the general  population. 

Also, I find the idea of using Han to fill this role would be far more likely to appease fans than Ady introducing totally new characters of his own creation.

I do digress though, as further research has shown me that Han is only 29 in ANH, where I had previously believed him to be in his mid/late thirties. Under my previous age assumption, Han would have been 16-18 in RotS, providing for a much more interesting story arc than a 10 year old.