In all seriousness Dre, patent your process.
Out of curiosity, is there a way to factor projection attributes into your algorithm? I’m assuming scanning of the film is taking place an inch or less from the frame. This wouldn’t reflect standard contrast and saturation loss from projecting the image.
So Towne, when ARE we getting the 16:9 Pan and Scan version 😉 😛
My justification for the scan is the presence of actual film grain and film stock color attributes. Yes, scans would be awesome for the pieces of this edit that need them, but I’d really like scans for projects like emanswfans.
Just an idea, since you seem to enjoy finding all these awesome ways to do color correction. Would you be able to implement a function in your color correct tool that scans a video file for the frame with the most visible colors (of course including qualifiers that require a certain amount of those colors have to be within a select range of each primary color so that you don’t just get a frame with 100,000+ shades of red.) If I’m correct, given that single frame, you’d be provided with the best option for a single frame color model full film correction.
To piggyback on the “maybe she was called back to Coruscant for a special Senate session” thing, it wouldn’t be out of character for the Emperor to take all of the Senators hostage immediately after dissolving the senate “for their own protection”. There could be a whole chain of events going on in the background that we don’t see where a different sect of Rebels is working to save Mon Mothma and any other Senators with Alliance sympathies.
The music just didn’t do it for me in the trailer, but beyond that it looked cool.
Here’s hoping Vader does show up and actually kill a main character or two - presumably this is a one off for this cast which provides a wonderful opportunity for menacing death.
I can totally picture a grindhouse style Vader slasher film 😎
Hey DrDre - would you be able to use this to fix something like Fellowship of the Rings EE that has had a blanket teal shift applied?
Count me in on the early mkv.
I will probably wait until ESB 2.5 is available, then release an updated 3 in 1.
The Blu-Ray sound mix is different and much improved from what I heard in theaters. I was very unimpressed with how they used John Williams’ score when I saw it in theaters. Things seem to be leveled out here and they sound stunning.
Except, you know, for the time when he added “THIS MEANS YOU RONSTER” to the thread title. 😉
Did this actually happen?
EDIT: Okay, okay, a quick google search told me it happened. I retract my statement by like 63 percent.
I’d just like to say it amuses me that after two pages of mostly nonsense and troll-bating (which yes, if people wouldn’t respond to would just stop)… everyone can still fall back on yelling at Ronster for posts directly related to the project. From a certain point of view, suggestions closed simply means “no further suggestions will be integrated into the project”, as opposed to quit suggesting ideas - I’ve taken Ady’s multiple responses to Ronster’s posts to mean he really isn’t that bothered by them.
Hey Althor, have you captured the “For those who remember… one last time” trailer that’s on the Star Wars Faces ld’s? Looking for a high quality version of that for a project I’m working on.
You’re all pretty. And smelling of manly flowers. Especially Ady, a man who deserves to get lei’d by a wookie daily.
In the meantime, guess who likes to Strike Back…
That’s right. The Empire.
Thread re-railed.
My guess is it takes an extra year for every exaggerated sarcastic remark like that^. Ady probably finished all six films years ago and each time, right as he’s about to surprise us, he jumps on here to post, reads a comment about things “taking to long” and sighs thinking “Maybe next year…”
I’m very fond of L8’s Episode 3. His eps 1 and 2, while narrative great, feel rushed to me. Not in an actual pacing way, in a lack of transitions way. He tries to keep as much as possible, and in some instances that means faster wipes and scene jumps that are jarring by their general feel, rather than by video or audio hiccups.
Faster. More intense.
Well… The only PT film that was really specialized was Episode 1… Definitely my hope 😃
How is this progressing? Still waiting eagerly 😃
In the kitchen. Socially.
Does anyone else get the feeling Team Negative1 is under new leadership? (not a complaint, actually thoroughly enjoying the more timely and direct information)
Alright, this computer can’t handle image registation.
Here are my results with the raw capture image:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156203
(some slight color tweaking after the histogram match to get as close to the warped blu colors as possible… just shifting closer to magenta than green, changing the hue of yellows to almost lime green, and upping contrast)
just for a slightly registered, histogram matched version of that comparison:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/154019Jesus, that’s a huge improvement - how did you do it? If there’s something I still feel like I have A LOT to learn about, then it’s color correction - would this be possible to replicate in AE?
Here’s what the raw scan looks like:
http://s18.postimg.org/ccagrvacn/Star_Wars_ROTJ_Reel3_Pro_Res444_mov_snapshot_19_37.jpg
and what you see in the BD vs LPP comparison is the best I was able to get out of it.
I completely missed your reply - Honestly, I have no idea how to replicate it in AE. As strange as it seems, I find I get the best results in GIMP. It has a very simple image registration tool you can add, as well as the histogram matching script.
-Image Registration Plugin: http://registry.gimp.org/node/24248
-Histogram Matching: http://www.silent9.com/blog/archives/162-Gimp-Script-Histogram-Match.html
(I’m working on an example using the raw scan, but my work computer isn’t very fast with image registation.)
Since I’m unsure how to do this in AE, my suggestion is to histogram match in GIMP, then use DrDre’s Color Correct tool to build a profile between your source image and your histogram matched one. I find that Dre’s tool works great so long as the image is cropped perfectly, so finding a color correction you like before hand and adjusting to it using the tool provides a pixel perfect adjustment match that’s more easily applied without getting artifacts.
GIMPs image registration isn’t the greatest, and I don’t know how to automate it between two sets of pictures. Because of that, I tend to use it more to adjust pictures for comparison images.
With histogram matching, I’ve found this process works best for me -
Set the bitrate to allow second audio track so will be setting surround as default and just including mine as alternate. Attempting to adapt Project Threepio subs for this. Video rendered… Only took 4 days
Fox fanfare. I don’t care if it’s not a Fox Movie. It’s necessary.
Does anyone else take issue with the opening sequence and the Max Von Sydow conversation? I thought the few lines of dialogue dragged… imagine if in ANH, rather than the initial space battle, you see the Tantive fly by, followed by the Star Destroyer not firing, then immediately go to Leia giving R2 the plans and 3P0 bumbling around looking for him. THEN the Tantive gets caught in the tractor beam. THEN the stormtrooper battle. It just wouldn’t be epic enough.
I think BB8 should just catch 2 lines, one from old man Sydow, one from Poe, with no pause between the lines and music making it seem tense and like Poe knows he can’t linger.
That scene just hit me wrong, and I’d seen the Rey shot in the mask starting the next sequence too many times in the trailer for the following sequence to correct it. It took me about 10 minutes to really get into the film.
-ORIGINAL:
Episode VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS
Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed.
With the support of the REPUBLIC, General Leia Organa leads a brave RESISTANCE. She is desperate to find her brother Luke and gain his help in restoring peace and justice to the galaxy.
Leia has sent her most daring pilot on a secret mission to Jakku, where an old ally has discovered a clue to Luke’s whereabouts….
-MY SUGGESTION:
Episode VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS
Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last of the fabled Jedi Knights, has been destroyed. Fear once again grips the galaxy.
To combat the growing threat, the NEW REPUBLIC has enlisted the help of Skywalker’s twin, General Leia Organa, to lead a brave new RESISTANCE. In a desperate attempt to find her brother and gain his help in the conflict, General Organa has dispatched her most daring pilot on a secret mission to the desert planet of Jakku. There, an old ally waits, claiming to have at last discovered the key to finding Luke, and with him the salvation of them all…
In a similar manner to the PT, just give it a couple of months/years after the hype dies down to where people’ll start seeing it for what it “really” is to where the faneditors have to step in to fix it.
I disagree with this to a point. The desire for an edit of this is probably pretty strong right off the bat for many of us. The difference between this and the PT is that there is A LOT of stuff that can be kept, and a light trimming with a few music changes and a tacked on Fox Fanfare could do wonders, as opposed to complete story reworking required in the PT. This film is a rehash definitely, but it’s a rehash of a movie (and more vaguely the whole trilogy) that most of us love with a plot that we can generally accept.
