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generalfrevious said:

The problem is that you are only repeating yourself. We get it and if we take out the deranged obsession, most of us feel the same, but what do you do to help this cause except for endless whining on some forum?

To make myself feel better about the situation, and maybe spread the truth to newcomers why we don't like George Lucas.

that's great and all that, but instead of complaining about george and

what he's done.

why not point them to the preservation section

where people have ACTUALLY done something about it, and give

them something concrete that they can enjoy.

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check out darth taters party here
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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-is-now-released/post/597662/#TopicPost597662 

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Darth Tater said:

Thanks, guys! Everyone really enjoyed it, which makes it even more fun for me. Plus, it's nice having your own screening room, even if it's only open at night and they set the AC a bit too high during the winter. ;)

 

Laserschwert said:

Looks great! Did you build the screen yourself?

Kind of. It is a kit from Carl's Place, which I learned of at the BackyardTheater.com forums. Projector is an Epson 710HD I got on sale from VisualApex.com. I use a PS3 as the player. The PAs and subs are PW100T and PW112-S from Powerwerks (from a local music store). Super-affordable and great sound for the price. I run everything through a small Behringer Eurorack MX 802A mixer I bought used. I've also got a small Rolls HA43 Pro headphone amp from Amazon and 4 pairs of cheapo headphones from Monoprice for quiet viewing late at night

Carl sends the plans, screen, and elbows, and you go to the lumber yard and have the tubing (1" EMT) cut to length. I leave it up except in lightning or high winds, but it can be assembled/disassembled in about 10 minutes with 2 people.

I bought this kit but asked for a custom aspect ratio (~2.085:1), which lets me zoom 1.85:1 movies top-to-bottom or 2.35:1 movies side-to-side and have them take up the same square footage (Constant Image Area instead of Width like a TV). This way, viewing distance is the same for both types of film and black bars are minimized.

awesome setup, i posted a link to your original post with

pictures here:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-watch-parties-are-you-planning-one-previews-videos/post/597685/#TopicPost597685

and the hardware description here:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/What-is-your-home-theater-setup-for-watching-Star-Wars-movies-or-what-equipment-would-like-to-get-if-you-could-afford-it-or-dream-setup/topic/14630/

feel free to repost or link to it.

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check out darth taters outdoor projection 

set up here:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-is-now-released/post/597678/#TopicPost597678

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bttfbrasilfan said:

Oh, please don't remove the reel change marks.

nope,

mentioned it earlier,

they are still going to be there.

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ww12345 said:

Just a word of advice - don't let the projectionist platter it. Some projectionists love to do this (basically splice all the reels together lying flat on a platter so that there are no reel changes) but it can really mess up the film. Platter damage is like the #1 cause of damage to film now-a-days.

Also, it is worth checking to see if you can watch it "full frame." They should be able to have the anamorphic lens on without having the framing guides on, so you could watch all the way to the edge of the screen!

 

Edit: Hey, just a thought, could you get all the technical specs from the theater for all of the projection nuts? (prime lenses, anamorphic lenses, sound receiver, etc.) That would be really cool to see what the last of the real movie houses are using - old vs. new technology.

already talked to the people..

no platters for me.. but yes for the LPP..

besides, for my 'used' reels, they're pretty beat up anyways,

so i'm NOT worried about them.. just happy to see them

projected..

i'll find out about the framing also..

and yeah, i'll ask what equipment they're using the next

time i go..

thanks for the advice..

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might be awhile until i can get some

of reel 2 up..

i won't have highspeed access for awhile..

that's ok.. i think you get the idea..

still..

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upcoming..

i'm going to sneak peak some of the

reels of star wars and empire strikes back

in a REAL movie theater!

yeah, its a private showing of course,

and yes,  it will be the faded colors, but STILL!

anyways, should be a fun time in the next

few weeks. maybe i'll have some screenshots

or something..

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........

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Jetrell Fo said:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/advancedfilmcapture/anthrocine-archival-film-digitizing-system?ref=category

An inspiring and hopeful project.....

 

doubt this project is going to make..

7 days to go and they only have nearly $11k

out of the $300k they need..

they need to go to professionals and industries

and get the funding there..

not enough people care or know about what

they're trying to do or accomplish..

too bad though, could have been

very promising..

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msycamore said:

Asaki said:

If you mean the shot of R2 in the canyon, I didn't know they "fixed" that in the SEs. 

They didn't, and it's in no need of fixing either as it is part of the original photography, it's the way it was filmed, it's supposed to give you an unsettling feeling, it's sort of a point of view shot from the Jawas ala slasher films. But it is also shot that way so that we experience it from Artoo's point of view as well when the rocks are falling from the cliff etc. It's simple but brilliantly shot.

ok,

that's fine,

i just think that shot seems really shaky,

and distracts from the actual action of the scene.

i keep wanting the cameraman to pay attention

to what he is shooting!

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Jetrell Fo said:

 

If we could somehow obtain stuff like this the DTS discs would sync properly and we'd have at least pre-DVD versions of these movies without any changes before moving to the consumer market.  

This was posted over @ the 35mm forum:

Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace 1999 $450. SOLD
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones 2002 $550. SOLD
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith 2005 $600. Still Avail.

Whether these prices are normal or not, I would not know.  All I have in the way of film is a 35mm Scope Trailer for TPM.  I have a 35mm set for the SE Trilogy trailer but it was cut and sold in like 5 frames per strip.  I bought the whole lot but I have no way of scanning them to post as reference.

yup,

those are those prices i've been seeing too..

not a whole lot.. definitely worth getting..

probably should start another thread for these,

and not talk about them in the SE topic..

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Jetrell Fo said:

negative1 said:

obviously somewhere down the line

the 35mm prints need to be tracked down..

 

they shouldn't be that expensive, and

they'll be in pretty good shape.

 

however, that's a whole different can

of worms, right? hmmmmmmm..........

 

 

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This WOULD be the most optimal solution and one I'd love to see come to fruition.  I'd actually be pleased if we could get at least 1 35mm copy of the PT as well....for posterity and historical reference.  I put out some feelers on the 35MM forum in hopes of gaining some info about the SE 35mm.

Wouldn't it be cool if we had our own film vault here?  :)  :)

yeah,

getting the PT on 35mm is also something

i wouldn't mind seeing/getting... who knows?????

again, they are pretty cheap to get also.. and

in good condition.

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zombie84 said:

you'd be at least 35 now,

unCheck.

and likely have  a career,

unCheck.

a mortgage,

unCheck.

two kids,

unCheck.

and god knows what other problems,

ok, probably. (but not really)

so you aren't online talking about Star Wars issues.

pretty much, everyday..

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obviously somewhere down the line

the 35mm prints need to be tracked down..

they shouldn't be that expensive, and

they'll be in pretty good shape.

however, that's a whole different can

of worms, right? hmmmmmmm..........

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saw it in a movie theater today..

it was the bluray version..

again, the colors seemed off,

just like in the screenshots,

blown out skies, yellow tints, etc..

still, it was nice to see something

good on the big screen..

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SS4DarthPayne said:

Erikstormtrooper said:

STENDEC, you might want to create a thread for your '97 SE preservation. I'm sure lots of people will be interested in it, including me.

I second this. For better or worse, the 97 versions are what I grew up with, and I would love to see a semi-decent copy of them. I tried to undertake some similar attempts myself, but did not have the know-how or the time to do so :(

well i would be interested too.

i've watched the SE versions a lot more than the

originals, and i'm used to the changes in them..

who knows, maybe down the road, we'll do these

right, the way they're SUPPOSED to be also!!! 

hmmmmmmmmm...........

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any pictures of peoples setups?

would be nice to see them also..

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Bingowings said:

Party On!

hey, did you take my watch?

i had one of those!

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and when you're watching,

you might want to watch the trailer for this first..

check out the links at the bottom of the

first post:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/negative1-star-wars-1977-35mm-theatrical-version-release-details-and-updates/post/593114/#TopicPost593114

also, we will probably be putting the

first teaser from 1976 that this is based

on, in its entirety in 1080p HD also..

some reel 2 previews coming up..

stay tuned..

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dlvh said:

negative1, this is really looking nice! Kind of teaser-like, similar to what the studios used to put out  many decades ago, to promote their up coming movies.

Can't wait to see the final product.

Thanks for all the hard work you are putting into this!

 

thanks again everyone,

also it's a team effort, not just me... there are other people helping a lot!

some more points:

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1 for people that want samples, or haven't seen

it already... check out the bottom of the first post.

i re-uploaded the trailer, in streaming and downloadable.

the download is 1080p wmv, so that should give you

a good idea... it's from the original 1976 teaser

mixed in with our LPP, and our red print too..

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/negative1-star-wars-1977-35mm-theatrical-version-release-details-and-updates/post/593114/#TopicPost593114

2 the color matches the technicolor in a lot of places,

but not all of them, you'll see that some scenes are

a lot darker due to the nature of the LPP.

remember - this first reel preview is a slightly

color corrected version, there is a slight faded element

to it, but that's about it.. you are seeing the natural

color as it is on the actual printe

3 some of the reels require very little work, except

for the heads and the tails..

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haven't you guys noticed anything interesting in 

watching it?

does it feel like watching a film?

do you have an idea of what the uncropped picture

looks like?

do you think the noise, dirt and reel change marks

are too distracting? (because most of it is going

to be gone in the final version, except the reel 

change marks)..

this is a good indicator of how the 'rawer' grindhouse

version (not the PLUS one) will be like... would/could you

watch the whole movie in this quality (720p/1080p)?

did you notice color differences in scenes, like the

r2d2 in the valley scene? or when c3po and r2d2

are shot out of the spaceship at the beginning..

do you notice the grain in the tatooine scenes?

what about the color shift that occurs in the

segments?

the original intro is made from original crawl,

1 lpp portion, and a second lpp portion for

the flyover at the very beginning, see that?

notice how some camera shots are really shaky?

of course, with my handheld shaky camera parts,

you might not be able to tell.. but there wasn't much

in stabilization going on.. so the final picture will be

more stable...

look at the filenames, and you'll see i have several

takes of each of the reels, downconverts, some with

sound, some without....

there's a lot going on in those clips..

you need to UNLEARN....

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the thing is that probably only recent movies

have a native 7.1 soundtrack.. and unless you

have an awesome receiver that can split the

5.1->7.1 or convert it, you really can't take

advantage of it..

i'm sure that yes, it also depends a lot on

the layout of your room. my parents have a

huge living room with gigantic ceilings so it

might help them. i have a bedroom with

a lot less room to watch it in..

also there's the cost factor and time and effort..

i watch a lot of movies, and downloaded tv show,

but most only have stereo sound.. so unless i want

to invest a lot more money, for just a few things,

it might not be worth it..

thanks for all the comments, and details,

it's good to know what's out there when the

time comes.

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bilditup1 said:

We won a 51" Samsung plasma at an auction last year. Completed the low-end Pioneer 7.1 (towers in the front) via several deals at newegg, and then got a cheapish Onkyo receiver with some nice networking support. I'm pretty pleased with the setup all in all. 

is there a noticeable difference

between 5.1 and 7.1 sound?

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jero32 said:

Where can I find this blog anyway?
I keep hearing about it.

closed it down earlier this year.

it's been archived, and we'll update the

video, and release it as a bonus for 

downloading when done.

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jero32 said:

Well my problem with it is that you have to buy your movies AGAIN.
I suppose at least upscaling is LESS of a problem, since 1080 scales 1:2 with 4k.

depends..

if it was 2160p, then you would be right..

and 3840 x 2160 UHDTV....

there's a lot of definitions of 4k:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution

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jero32 said:

So I showed some friends. Got alot of "why not just upload the video directly?"

I said I'd ask. (did you answer this already?  My memory can be kinda weird like that)

 

edit: and somehow I managed to pick the wrong thread. I don't know what it is with me lately.

what would be the point of uploading

the incomplete result, and having people

judge that, and come to the wrong 

conclusions? you see how harsh people

are on finished projects.. (harmy,puggo, etc)

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anyone looking into the new 4k tv's or projectors?

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/hdtv-superwidescreen-phillips-21-9-2-35-1-tv/topic/10089/page/4/

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