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Bingowings said:

There is money to be had if some boffin can invent a retro lightgun adapter for flatscreens.

yeah, well there are some possibilities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06cd5y5l1Ns

you need an external scaler, and some other

equipment.

more talk over here:

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http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/113086-lcd-tvs-light-guns/

back to calibration though

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probably need to invest in some real actual

hardware if you are serious about getting your

screens to look right.

i've thought about getting some hardware

like the spyder or the x-rite

some models on ebay:

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http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=monitor+calibration&_sop=16

has anyone bought or tried these out?

maybe a mid-priced model would be

good to test out.. (or a used one).

later

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VideoPhonic said:

I think the BD25 option sounds great (as a BDMV file, correct?) and like -1 said I am curious to see how folks will embrace harmy's BD25 release. I'm all in favor of this because although I do not yet have a blu-ray burner, I'm confident my blu-ray program (or other video programs) on my computer will be able to play the file. That said, I hope other fans feel similarly because I can't imagine wanting to experience this in anything less than 1080p (though I'm sure a DVD-9 would still blow GOUT away).

Also, -1. What kind of work have you done with authoring/preparing to author the disc (menus, etc.), I'm mostly curious as to what style menu you're going for (personally I prefer something simple and classy, like darkjedi's V3 dvds).

Thanks again.

we haven't gotten to that point yet.

but it will be pretty minimalistic, since there's

not really a whole lot of options besides -> play,

a trailer, and couple of audio options..

TooMuchGarlic said:

I'm probably out of line, but I would put a vote for DTS-HD Master Audio as a preference for the audio, as I sadly don't have the proper hardware to listen to lpcm (my hardware only play that as stereo and not as surround).

It's just too cool that you are open to the idea of others adding to this project once it's released and I hope I can find someone who can add Danish subtitles to it and has a BR burner, so I can enjoy this wonderful project with friends and family like we should all really have been able to do with the official releases - the original unaltered movies.

well, i would think that all the projects on this board

are a community effort. there's too many resources

here that need to be used. and as long as there is

a standard (like GOUT) that can be used, it's easy

to synchronize them.

we are proposing a new improved standard, that's close, but

will probably not quite match that. so work will have to be

done, like on all the other soundtracks, subtitles, and

dubs to integrate them.

fortunately, there's a lot of hard working and competent

people that are donating their time and effort to do it,

so we don't have to do all that work by ourselves.

yeah, we're taking on a lot to do.

but the results and the rewards are worth it.

later

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SilverWook said:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/11397139-post65.html

Is this a reference to ot.com?

discussed here already:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-is-now-released/post/596795/#TopicPost596795

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-1

have a good one mark!

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jero32 said:

" I saw on another forum today where someone is claiming to have the print copy we screened and they are claiming to be scanning it."

...I wonder if this is the "news" negative1 said we'd find out in a couple of years.

i can tell you with a great amount of certainty

right now.

that NO, this is not the print, or the news you'll hear

about in a few years..

later

-1

obviously  he means the range is from 25% to 40%

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AntcuFaalb said:

Hm. That might look a bit on the cool side, but it's definitely better than red balance you had before!

OK, I can do <10. I think I'll have to determine the best value experimentally... somehow.

match it up against harmy's technicolor version

for the closest approximation.

that is what you're doing right?

later

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Molly said:

And for the record I'd like to give encoding a whack just for practice, just because the last DVD set I released (XP77 Beta) was a piece of junk and I'd like to make amends for it. xD

we're only going to have 2-3 soundtracks on there.

so anyone that want's to sync or create their own

adaptation (it will be pretty close to the GOUT, but

probably not quite).. is welcome to do so, unofficially.

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SilverWook said:

Some praise and interesting info in this thread.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/604406-star-wars-restoration-hits-milestone.html

This post in particular caught my eye.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/11368548-post37.html

"I can tell you this, the University of North Carolina School of the Arts has an unfaded Technicolor-process print of Star Wars, and good condition 70mm prints of Empire and Jedi. And that place is full of film students who all undoubtedly loathe what Lucas has done to the films. Get those prints to this mysterious scanner and we'd have HD editions of the original cuts of all three films by the end of the year."

already mentioned/discussed:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-REMASTERED-is-now-released/post/593064/#TopicPost593064

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jero32 said:

@negative1

I just looked at the title crawl and I did notice a "line" running trough the frame at times.
Now normally I wouldn't mention it cause it's a hard to fix problem, but in this case I think it's an easy fix.

Basicly you take a frame where the line isn't present, and you use that to fill in the lines (it'll stil go over the letters a little bit, but it'll be much less noticable.)

Thoughts?

are you talking about this cleaned up crawl?

https://vimeo.com/49158310

if so, all major noticeable lines and scratches will be gone

in the final version...

not a hard thing to fix at all..

yeah, i know it's tough talking about perceived issues

from second hand video, and rough drafts. but i'm confident

when we get to our internal test workprint versions, they will have

be watched by at least 3 different people to check for those

kind of things.. way before it gets released.. 

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doubleKO said:

The first post says to contact walkingdork, but for new members it is not very clear how to do this. You have to track down one of his posts for a PM link. Maybe Harmy could link walkingdork's name to the MySpleen thread in the first post? But yeah, it helps to read it as well.

PM sent.

hmm??

when you create a new pm,

by clicking on private messages -> send a new message:

----------------------------------------------

you just put the members name in

the recipient

 box...

what's so hard about that?

you don't need to dig up old posts or anything like that..

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pat man said:

You guy know that this not is not in the off topic forum, right?

Back on topic: 5,811 have signed :-)

oh they know all right! ha ha

(that's most of the reason they are posting here!)

i wouldn't worry about it..

just keep posting updates.

later

-1

well i'll ask cinch about it,

maybe he knows what could

cause that ghosting to appear

on the original film..

i've never noticed it on any

of the prints we've got..

later

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DaFees said:

So I came back here hoping someone might take those Blu-Rays keep the good lossless audio and just undo all the  bad things Lucas had done to the films. Nobody was doing this however. More recently though I discovered this work-in-progress and am now excited again.

thanks for chiming in.. of course you want to

check out harmys deSpecialized v2/2.1 in HD (720p)

So my questions are as follows. In the OP you say you'll be doing 25GB (mkv and burnable to Blu-Ray) releases but given that most commercial Blu-Ray releases today use 50GB discs is there any chance you might reconsider you position and go with a nice high quality release that would be suited for a 50GB Blu-Ray disc?

we could do that, but for the given bitrate and 1080p,

25G is more than enough space. even with the audio tracks

and bonus trailer. also, we have to keep in mind space issues

for people. there's not that many out there that can get more

than the 9G for a dual layer DVD version... harmy's upcoming

bluray release will be interesting to watch and see how that

release goes...another thing is i don't even have a dual layer

bluray burner, and blanks are expensive, i don't think most

people will go that route either.. just getting the digital files

is fine, but where do you draw the line? we're speculating

about releasing the raw files, and you could downsize

those to whatever you want, but those file sizes are terabytes, and

very impractical...

 

Other question is in regards to the audio. Will it be lossless (and lpcm would be fine if using TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio isn't an option), that is if it can even be lossless? I know Dolby Digital is kind of a go to standard for sound but I just think if you're going to go the extra mile in terms of image quality why not do so with the sound quality? I mean I know some people out there have really great sound systems so the better the sound can be the more I know those kind of people as well as everyone else will be more than satisfied. 

i don't know too much about the audio yet, but for the mono and 35mm

stereo versions, there's not a huge amount more you could push them too.

they'll be in as high quality as the source material allows.

That's all I have for now. Oh and by the way I did check out that 1080p trailer you made. It is a little rough but I definitely love what I am seeing to so far.

 

the trailer source of 35mm has some elements from the LPP, but

overall that will be in higher quality than the trailer... you can see select

screengrabs here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/topic/9805/page/13/

thanks for the questions and comments..

later

-1

brooks,

i take it that the ghosting is in the

raw scans too? right? they should

be i would think..

later

-1

scans from brooks can

be found here:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-1997-Star-Wars-Special-Edition-Trilogy-Preservation-Standards-Thread-Work-In-Progress/post/597710/#TopicPost597710

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-1997-Star-Wars-Special-Edition-Trilogy-Preservation-Standards-Thread-Work-In-Progress/post/597777/#TopicPost597777

not sure what is causing the ghosting,

maybe something on the scanner settings?

later

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russs15 said:

I am asking if anyone has the disc or the audio from it.

I have not seen a Neil S. post in years so I thought he no longer came round here.

 

ok, maybe he doesn't post,

but this is his data:

Last Online: September 14, 2012, 2:53 AM

so give it a shot..

Molly said:

I was under the impression he'd gotten mad and left.

who, neil s?

Brooks said:

Those strips show off the superiority of the 35mm and further underline how all the video versions have paled in comparison to the theatrical prints. This may be the only way to get fine detail back in the SE.

My original scans are 5K pixels wide in their original anamorphic aspect ratio and 8-10K wide when stretched back out to widescreen at 4800 optical dpi.  Here's a link to one of the frames at full size just to give you an idea of how big these scans are (to see it full size you have to click on the little magnifying glass at the top and then use the little scroll box on the bottom to zoom in).  Of course this is a highly compressed jpg.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qt3SMFLzM8SDvfxcX-Laxl-XlAtyyCbAofoY1zhr1UQ?feat=directlink

Notice the ghosting around the ships?  That's in all the frames I have, I don't know what that is.  I would love to experiment with scanning an actual film this way (frame by frame on a photoscanner) and see what the results look like.

 

could you please move these or link these scans and

posts over here?

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Original-35mm-Theatrical-Versions-of-SE-Trilogy-and-Prequel-Trilogy-1997-2005/topic/14654/

for the film related threads?

thanks

later

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russs15 said:

Does anyone out there have this release??

This DVD includes the sparkling new 16x9 picture transfer made for the 2004 DVDs. It also includes a Dolby Digital 5.1 track, but not the error filled mix found on the current DVD. Instead, this soundtrack is the 1997 remix heard theatrically in 1997 when the film was rereleased for it’s 20th anniversary. It's single layer and the sync is perfect.

are you asking for this release?

or just renaming the link?

why not just ask neil s for it?

he still posts here recently as of a few weeks ago.

later

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Davnes007 said:

I just wanted to re-write the first post....not re-write the whole threat thread.

 

later,

-007

 

inception:

rewriting the original thread,

a thread within a thread about a thread..

and then fixing it..

later

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Davnes007 said:

F*ck it. I re-wrote your entire 1st post:

 

pat man said:

Hello there. This my 1st time making a thread.

This will help you calibrate your TV's.  Be advised that results may vary, and that I'm not responsible if you mess up your TV. 

Step 1. Turn on your TV, and leave it  for 30 minutes.

Step 2. Go to post #2, and then post #40.

 

Note: You may need to do this for each Input of your TV.

:D

 

actually, having the links is even better:

Hello there. This my 1st time making a thread.

This will help you calibrate your TV's.  Be advised that results may vary, and that I'm not responsible if you mess up your TV. 

Step 1. Turn on your TV, and leave it (ON) for 30 minutes.

Step 2. Go to

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-Calibrate-your-TV-Please-read-the-first-post/post/592204/#TopicPost592204

 

 

and then

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-Calibrate-your-TV-Please-read-the-first-post/post/593067/#TopicPost593067

 

Note: You may need to do this for each Input of your TV.

 

 

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of course then you need to edit post #40

to have the right links also..

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-1

pat man said:

 

Just T.V. speakers for now, I'LL get a sound system later.what system would you use for 7.1 sound.   

 

i don't know, i only have 5.1,

but you can re-read:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/What-is-your-home-theater-setup-for-watching-Star-Wars-movies-or-what-equipment-would-like-to-get-if-you-could-afford-it-or-dream-setup/post/597121/#TopicPost597121

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/What-is-your-home-theater-setup-for-watching-Star-Wars-movies-or-what-equipment-would-like-to-get-if-you-could-afford-it-or-dream-setup/post/597122/#TopicPost597122

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/What-is-your-home-theater-setup-for-watching-Star-Wars-movies-or-what-equipment-would-like-to-get-if-you-could-afford-it-or-dream-setup/post/597150/#TopicPost597150

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/What-is-your-home-theater-setup-for-watching-Star-Wars-movies-or-what-equipment-would-like-to-get-if-you-could-afford-it-or-dream-setup/post/597166/#TopicPost597166

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AntcuFaalb said:

 

Hey, -1. Yes, I'm using the raw GOUT for this. It's GOUT on top and GOUT.Technicolor() on the bottom in the images above.

This is all a work-in-progress, of course. Converting between color-spaces seems to be tripping me up, so I'm going to learn more about that before progressing.

ok,

yeah, i know you're messing around with it..

i don't have a problem with the GOUT colors or DVD's,

in fact it looks pretty good to me most of the time,

even in these comparisons the colors look more

'right' to me.. currently.

looking forward to see what else you can

get out of them..

later

-1

could you label your pictures?

i take it the bottom pictures are the

newer ones?

the contrast seems way too high?

the skin colors look really red,

and in the first picture, the red light

(in the upper left), loses almost all the detail in it..

maybe less would look better..

i'm not sure how the technicolor script

is working,  are you using RAW gout 

screencaps?

later

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generalfrevious said:

That's only half the battle; we need GL to repent for what his did to the OT and apologize to his fans. Preservations might save the OOT, but they cannot change GL's mind.

well half is better than zero.

and i'm glad you realize that the OOT can be SAVED.

that's a big start.

later

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pat man said:

If you have a problem with your T.V.,projectors, or computers being to bright/dark,color mess up,please go here. 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-Calibrate-your-TV-Please-read-the-first-post/post/592177/#TopicPost592177

I use a CRT and LCD to watch Star Wars. 

thanks, color calibration is big problem.

what kind of CRT/LCD, and what size?

also what do you use for the audio?

later

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