Star Wars Colortiming & Cinematography (was What changes was done to STAR WARS in '93?) — Page 13

TServo2049 said:

Some more film cell images I found on eBay, this time from the first film. These are a higher resolution than the ones I posted before, but lighting is  much more uneven - you can see that the person who took the photos was shining a flashlight down onto the cells, so some parts will look blown out, others look too dark/translucent (and you can often see the texture of the white bedsheet under the cell). Some of the images have similar greenish tendencies to the Jedi1.net scans, others don't.

 

 

Another seller's photo - this one of Leia and R2. Looks too cool?

 

we're going to try to do this by reels

starting with 1:

 

our untouched versions:

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"Secret mission? What plans? What are you talking about? I'm not getting in there!"

Another seller posted some images which are strangely lit - they seem to be backlit, but the light is some kind of rectangular shape positioned at an angle so that part of the image is blown out, and part is too dim.

Leia captured - wow, that's blown out. It looks cold where the light is strongest, but you can see yellow and green and cyan tendencies on the right side where there's not as much light:

Vader grills Leia on the Tantive. Again with the odd light source, not sure what to make of this image:

 

The Jawas - a nice reddish-gold hue, it feels right to me:

 

some are really dark:

R2 in the Sandcrawler - again, it has that warm look Mike has talked about, but the photo is kind of soft and there aren't many distinct colors visible, so again I'm not sure what to make of it:

 

later

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now onto reel 2:

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TServo2049 said:

R2 and 3PO - same shot as in my earlier post, the colors seem to match:

 

A big, sharp, high-res image of Luke, Ben and R2:

 

 

It's got some yellow-green in the walls and uniforms, but notice how much better the skin tones look, and how generally warmer it looks, than the Jedi1 scans from this same scene:

 

reel 3:

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There's nothing you could have done." Same scene as one of the Derann images above:

Han introduces himself - pretty strong golden yellow cast here:

Chewie in the cockpit. Seems too yellow-green:

later

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more reel 3:

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Some more big, high-res photos. First, the Death Star conference room:

 

 

Some more big, high-res photos. First, the Death Star conference room:

 

 

Preparing to completely blow away Alderaan. Lots of warm golden yellow on the button lights:

Luke takes his first step into a larger world. Nice and warm, natural skin tones, this is another one that looks about perfect to me:

reel 4:

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Luke has a bad feeling about this. Unfortunately, the light source is too concentrated, so the image is way too blown out in the middle. Not sure if the greenish look is due to fading or too much illumination. The colors on the right edge look good, though:

"This is some rescue!" Again, some blowout and greenish highlights (though it's certainly not as green as some of the Jedi1 scans of Death Star scenes):

From another seller, Ben Kenobi heading for the tractor beam, with a definite yellow-green cast. Not sure if this is due to fading, or due to the camera white balance - it's warmer than the Jedi1 scans, but still, I think it's *too* yellow-green:

Red Leader: (note the original is flipped, it should be mirrored)

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<blockquote><p><strong>You_Too</strong> said:</p><p>The pics look like that because they're compressed jpg's.<p> </p>

I would say the bigger offender is the incredibly lossy video file these are taken from ;)

better/worse?

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jero32 said:

Detail seems good. White seems a little blown out maybe? (look at Han's chest plate)

this is the temporary untouched version

from the capture. still needs to be tweaked.

i was only talking about the picture quality,

not the colors.

later

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how about?

(still haven't quite figured

out the aspect ratio for

display yet)...

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jero32 said:

In that case, picture quality is pretty great. Any chance you could post a png for comparison? (Also personally I always use imgur for pictures, it has less ads)

hmm. i use imageshack because it has an batch uploader.

i don't have the original source files on me right now.

these are screencaps.

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The quality seems better than before, not that soft anymore.

well,

that's good to know!

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Those samples look amazing, -1!

jero32 said:

*adventure time* * (can't find the damn clip)

I CAN SEE EVERYTHING.

i don't get it..

hope its something good! ha ha

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Those samples look really awesome!

I WANT THIS NOW.

budwhite said:

It got better like in the last pics but the ones before looks liked they're DNR'ed to hell and back. To much digital cleaning, or just low rez pics like you too said?

very few of those have been cleaned.

those are original shots, some color corrected,

that went through 2 different video downconversions,

and then compressed to jpgs.

the last set were

one video conversion -> slightly altered colors for some -> jpg

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^I think when resizing it might be a good idea to take into account the fact that the framing is slightly different. I don't remember what thread it's in, but -1 has well documented that there is more information all around the way they're capturing the print.

That looks a lot better, though still quite compressed, so all grain's gone. But from this, you can finally tell, that the final results will be amazing! Can't wait!