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ChainsawAsh said:

3D animation is incredibly difficult.  Why would 2D be harder?  Look at animated TV.  How much of it is animated in 2D?  Family Guy, The Simpsons, Futurama, King of the Hill, almost any Adult Swim show (Robot Chicken doesn't count, it's stop-motion), et cetera.  And how many 3D-animated TV shows do you know?  Clone Wars ... um ... yeah.  Not to say that Futurama and occasionally Simpsons don't use 3D animation, but it's mostly 2D.

I use TV as an example because of the volume of work they have to do each year - think of that, and think of us doing 3 two-hour movies.  We do want to finish this in our lifetimes.

I also room with an animation student.  Trust me, it would be a lot easier to do 2D animation than 3D.

Fair enough. So who here does 2d?

And I've said this before; we should really look into Iclone. I'm trying to learn it, but it could work for what we're doing.

2d? Seriously? Does anyone know how to do that? I would actually think that would be harder. Perhaps I'm wrong.

So I have a question. I know a few on here mentioned they have done 3d animation. So, my question is...How feasable is this?

Can anyone create an example clip of something so that we could see possibilities?

His sister, Beru could be in it, and you could for sure have his future wife.  I think you need her in it as much as possible to make the love stort convincing. They need to have important scenes together....Not this:

Padme - "Anakin you'll always be that little boy I knew on Tattooine."

5 mins later...

Anakin - "Wanna screw?" Padme - "Sure."

I'd like to know where you got those fonts. The project is interesting. Will you be using any of Adywan's work?

I'll be doing an edit.... But mainly because I think there is a better film in there... And i thought it was pretty fun as is. But there is a better movie there for sure.

TMBTM said:

Again, I have to question the desire to keep the OT's secrets. People already know them. There's no unscrewing the pooch. I say we use these things (if they are relevant to the story). 

I have a mixed feeling about this matter.

While I'd love to have a story that keep the OT's secrets (for staying true to the Star Wars canons we all love) I'd also like to see a story with big twists and surprises that even change our vision of the OT (in a good way of course, not just by screwing the surprises like Lucas movies but also by adding new ones).

You know, things like (I'm in a total "what if" mode by now:) Obi-Wan being the real father of Luke without knowing it. The mother of Luke and Leia lied to him, pretending they are Anakin's childreen, for some reason.

I know it's sounds silly (and yes, it IS silly), it's just an over the top exemple.... But it would makes me laugh, when Vader tells Luke "I am your father", that all the audience thinks "No, you're not!".  Hitchcock often said that a good movie is a movie when the audience knows more than the characters. Perhaps we can find something to play with this.

I guess I'm in an "Lucas X1000" mode. Really it was just an exemple, don't throw too much rotten tomatoes!

 

Edit: and again, sorry for my english in that post... I have the feeling that it's not really good.

I see what you're saying. Anything that makes us look closer at the OT is good.... Which the current prequels did not. For me, the prequels added nothing to the saga.

Erikstormtrooper said:

Blackhawk, your ideas for CW II are great. But I'm left wondering why the mandalorians are randomly planting clones in the populace. What is the point of that?

I'm not sure all that much attention should be paid to Palpatine, or politics for that matter. As a child, I never really wondered about the Emperor's backstory. And I'd be perfectly happy if we never see the inside of the senate. To be a good story, this needs to focus on characters, not a series of events. I'm not referring to anyone in particular here, I just don't want us to get so engrossed with plot points that we forget about the characters.

Astromech:

By the time Vader is in the life supporting armour, his ability to control the Force is already diminished to the point that all he can is Force choke and move objects. To the Emperor, he is already largely useless...

I'm not sure that there should be many force powers beyond what we see in the OT. In that sense, most of the light side powers seem to be mental or "attitudinal", whereas the dark side powers are physical. BTW, I see no need for PT Force powers like "Force speed" or "Force flip" by either side. Question: when Vader blocks Han's blasts with his hand in ESB, is that a Force power?  

For me, writing out my ideas has really helped me make sense of them. I recommend the same to anyone who thinks they may have an interesting take on things.

Again, I have to question the desire to keep the OT's secrets. People already know them. There's no unscrewing the pooch. I say we use these things (if they are relevant to the story). 

 

I agree.... Nail down the characters. That's the crucial part. If you don't like your characters, you won't care about the story.

tjdavis1138 said:Did you try the method I explained to you a few months ago? Seriously dude it's not that hard. IF you do it the way I explained you end up with six wav files. It doesn't get any easier than that to edit with. You can still use the xvid encoded video files.

Hypercube Transcoder is the bomb.

Egad...... I need to walk away for a bit. too.....much.....information........

Yeah there is.... At least there is in Vegas and Premiere... What are you editing on?

I would darken a little; but really mostly just a desaturation could do a lot of good here. Most editors can handle that fairly easy.

Octorox said:

Erikstormtrooper said:

Here's my daily does of a whole lot of nonsense. Some of it feels right, other parts clunky. In my mind, I keep seeing this as more of a series of comic books than animated movies, but that's purely due to logistics.

Episode I - (25 Years Before the Battle of Yavin)

Anakin (20)
Obi Wan (35)
Bail (25)
Owen (25)

CRAWL:

A bitter conflict has erupted
throughout the Republic. After the
Galactic Senate's divisive decision
to abolish cloning, King Organa of
Alderaan has been assassinated by cloning
extremists, sparking the SECOND CLONE WAR.

In desperation, the Jedi Knight
Obi Wan Kenobi is on a mission to
locate the missing prince of Alderaan.

If the prince can be returned to
his home planet, there is hope that
reason and diplomacy can restore
peace to the galaxy.

Concept:

I see this as kind of like the American Civil War, but sparked by a WWI-type assassination. After the assassination of their King, the people of Alderaan get an extreme case of bloodlust and start a war with the advocates of cloning (i.e., terrorists). These Clone forces (whatever we want to call them, they may include Mandalorians and/or shocktroopers) shouldn't really be clones themselves, just people who believe in the right to make clones if they choose to. Anakin is the "everyman" in the movie, in that all the exposition for us is directed at him.

Synopsis - 1st HALF:

The story starts as a spice freighter (spice is a substance of questionable legality) exits hyperspace over a random planet, only to drop right into the thick of a battle. The ship is suddenly struck by random blaster fire, the captain killed, and the navicomputer damaged. But the navigator Anakin skywalker - with the help of the ship's astromech R2-D2 - begins repairs. While the battle rages, Anakin restores main engines and begins a slow getaway, when he receives a distress call from another nearby ship. He weighs whether he should get involved, risking being caught for his spice smuggling. After a moment, he decides to go back for the rescue.

As he docks with the damaged republic ship, a dazed Bail Organa and injured Obi Wan Kenobi come on board. Kenobi demands they immediately jump to hyperspace to Alderaan. But Anakin explains about the navicomputer. Just then, the Clone Forces begin to attack, and Anakin takes the pilot controls. He manages to artfully evade the attackers. Kenobi is impressed, but he has concerns about their ability to get out alive. In desperation, Anakin begins to manually enter coordinates into the navicomputer. Stunned, Obi Wan asks what he's doing. Anakin explains that he "knows the way home". As he throws the hyperdrive switch, they make the jump to hyperspace, on the way to Tatooine. Obi Wan passes out from exhaustion and his injuries.

When Obi Wan comes to, he's in a small room, being nursed by Beru, Anakin's sister. He wants to immediately leave to continue his mission, but he can't get up due to his injuries. Beru asks who he is, and he explains about the Jedi, his mission, being sent by Yoda (I'm beginning to like the idea of referring to Yoda but not seeing him). Bail Organa is cooling his heels in the background. We haven't really gotten to know him yet. 

After a few days, Obi Wan can amble around a bit with a walking stick, and he meets Owen Lars, a native of Tatooine. Owen was a friend of Anakin's who married Beru after father Skywalker died in the first Clone War. Owen and Beru now live on the Skywalker farm. Owen has little sympathy for Obi Wan, seeing what war has done to the skywalkers.

Bail comes in to talk to the recovering Obi Wan. We learn Bail's the reluctant heir who just wants to escape all this. He also thinks the war is justified and has no desire to stop it. Alderaan was ravaged by the first clone war, which was waged by an army of Clones known as shocktroopers. The shocktroopers were originally an experimental army for the Republic, but the cloning process was faulty, which caused the clones to go mad and mutiny. So in Bail's eyes, Alderaan is now doing what it must to protect itself. Obi Wan explains that the cycle of war will continue  - retaliation after retaliation, until someone can put the past aside.

A few days later, Obi Wan can walk around on his own, and he's beginning to grumble about leaving soon. He makes his way to the garage, where he sees Anakin tinkering. As a navigator who floats between jobs, Anakin is mostly away from the farm, but he spends most of his time in the garage when he's home. Obi Wan notices an old helmet displayed on the wall. Anakin explains that it was his father's fighter pilot helmet in the First Clone War. He gave it to Anakin on his deathbed, saying he "wanted him to to have it", knowing the young boy's enthusiasm for piloting. Obi Wan discusses Anakin's piloting skill and his trick with the navicomputer. Anakin says he's just always had a natural ability for piloting and a sense of direction in space. Obi Wan thinks for a while. He asks Anakin if he's heard of the Force. Anakin responds that he's not a religious guy. He mentions how his mother was killed by Tusken Raiders while father Skywalker was off at war.

Obi Wan takes a closer look at what Anakin is tinkering with: a holonet projector. Anakin notices and says "I figured you'd want some news of what's going on out there". After a minute, Anakin gets the thing to work. He fiddles with the dials and receives a transmission: Alderaan is under attack from the Clone Forces! Obi Wan calls to Bail, who watches with dread. Owen and Beru come in as well. After a few moments of silence, Bail says he's ready to return to Alderaan with Obi Wan.

But Obi Wan and Bail have no way off the planet. Obi Wan, sensing a moment of aligned opportunity, asks Anakin to pilot them back to Alderaan in the freighter. With the navicomputer unable to calculate coordinates, Obi wan pleads that Anakin can use his natural ability - with a little assistance from Obi Wan and the R2 unit - to manually enter the coordinates. Anakin could help save untold lives.

When Anakin doesn't immediately say no, Owen balks. He asks how Anakin could even consider this after all that's happened, how he could willingly put himself in harm's way. Anakin looks at his father's helmet on the wall, then grabs it and says "let's go". After Anakin leaves with the others, Owen says "I have a bad feeling about this". Beru replies that Anakin must follow his heart.

SYNOPSIS - 2nd Half:

Tune in next time as our heroes get in over their head. Anakin uses his piloting skills to disable a clone force dropship, Obi Wan faces off against the dreaded shocktroopers in hand-to-hand combat, and Bail Organa decides to join in the fight. Can they stop the invasion of Alderaan before it's too late?

Episode II (20 BBY)

Anakin (25)
Obi Wan (40)
Princess X (25)

A beautiful young princess (along with her golden protocol droid) is kidnapped by the dreaded sith pirates and their leader, Darth Vader. Anakin (now a Jedi Knight) and Obi Wan do battle with the sith and rescue the princess, with Anakin apparently killing Vader. Obi Wan explains that Darth Vader was once a student of his, but later turned to the dark side and joined the Sith, a band of masked marauders whose identity and species is unknown. Obi Wan uses the story of Darth Vader as a precautionary tale to Anakin on the appropriate use of the force. As Anakin and the princess fall in love, the Sith Pirates attack once again with a mysteriously revived Darth Vader. Anakin falsely believes Princess X to be dead, and he foolishly rushes off into battle. When he never returns, he is feared to be dead.

Episode III (17 BBY)

Vader/Anakin (28)
Obi Wan (43)
Princess X (28)
Luke (3)
Leia (3)

The repeated attacks by the Sith pirates have led to isolationism and xenophobia in the Republic. A charismatic senator has been named as emperor to provide a more centralized leadership in response to the sith pirates.

Because of their mutual affection for Anakin, Princess X and Obi Wan have become parents, in a way, for the Skywalker twins, but their relationship remains plutonic. Darth Vader, however, has spies that report otherwise to him.

Jedi have been mysteriously targeted by mercenaries known as the Mandalorians. The Jedi council (minus yoda) is convened, and they decide that they must make a stand against the Mandalorian threat. While the Jedi are slowly eliminated, Obi Wan does some sleuthing and discovers that the new Emperor has been manipulating the Sith and Mandalorians to his own ends. In a confrontation with Vader, Obi Wan asks what has happened to Anakin, and Vader responds that he is dead. During the battle, Vader falls into lava, and Obi Wan leaves him to die. Obi Wan has lost hope in everything he once fought for and believed in. The emperor announces a truce with the sith pirates, and as a sign of goodwill, makes Darth Vader his right hand man.

Both Obi Wan and Princess X, still clinging to their bittersweet memories of Anakin, are unclear about what to do with the children. They decide to seek the advice of master Yoda on Dagobah. Surely, he will know how best to protect the children. We see their ship approach Dagobah. The end.

ANH (0 BBY)

Vader (45)
Ben (60)
Luke (18)
Leia (18)

 

I like Episode I. Hate everything about II and III. Darth Vader should be the only Darth Vader and there should be no Sith pirates.

I like this idea for the most part. If anything it sells the multiple Darth Vader's for me... for the most part.

I think the marauders/pirates should be the newly reassembled Mandolorian Army... You could throw out the whole Mandalore title, and make the leader a Darth Vader. Sense I thought we were steering away from the EU we could ignore the Mandalore part, but I do think it could be cool to use the mandalorians, and the Republic's response is a clone army; much like the current prequels... Never had a problem with that... But we will have a time explaining how Darth Vader becomes an accepted member of the Empire later.

I see what you're saying; but I don't know how well that would play. I actually think we might be overcomplicating a Star Wars movie.  But maybe I'm wrong. I'm up to seeing how it plays out.

But why have a character who is already named Darth Vader?

Oh, and I asked before; but has anyone tried this Iclone software?

Oh and I also agree that showing Obi-wan's entire growth into a Jedi is too much story for three films, when you already have the Clone Wars, and the Anakin story to tell.

Well, I'm still leaning towards assignments too. And I should have mentioned that in some of my ideas Obi-Wan was assigned to retrieve Bail; but he didn't know where to find him. He does that through the force/detective work. I think the mix of Force powers and detective work is an interesting mix and wasn't really well done in AOTC. He uses the force to find Bail, but his focus has to be on it first. Thus he's assigned, and THEN focuses on it. He can't just know all things; he has to direct the power. Which is evident in the films; unless something huge happend like a world exploding, or...if you're Yoda; or 800 years old. =)

I agreed with you in the first place... The Phantom Menace is still a very good SW title, and it fits the format, and is relevant in IMO. You should just simply call it Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: The Darth Godbold edit.

Anyone try Iclone software.... Maybe it could be used to make this?

I'm working on writing my frist draft of my Episode 1.... I thought you might want to see the character break down so far.

Obi-wan Kenobi.. Of course.... But i'm tinkering with the idea of changing his clothes style... It dawned on me while watching A New Hope that Obi-Wan is wearing what would be called Jedi robes in the prequels... But then, what's this? So is Owen! I'm starting to think that what became jedi robes in the prequels were originally just standard attire for Tattooine residents. So, I'm liking the idea that they all wear a wide array of clothes. Anyway, Obi-Wan is not your typical Jedi. He's wreckless, and he takes unneccesary risks. After one of his missions ends in success; his assigned Master Yoda decides that even though the mission ended with the intended result, he accomplished in non Jedi manner.. Yoda assigns him a boring escort mission as punishment.

Bail Organa - My version of this character will have much more substance. He will be the Han Solo of this film. It even explains where Leia got her personality.  He's a prince who left Alderraan for his personal adventurous reasons; but once a huge galactic event occurs, he must be found to fulfill his princely duties (Which he despises)... Obi-Wan has been dispatched to find the lost prince and bring him home.

Kane Skywalker - Father of Beru and Anakin Skywalker. Kane is a simple moisture farmer on Tattooine and appreciates his life, and loves his kids with a fiery passion. His wife died when giving birth to Anakin. He will remind you of Qui-Gon in nature; but will not be a Jedi....Or is he?

Beru Skywalker - The teenage daughter of Kane. When she's not working the farm, she's thinking of Owen. At the moment Kane can't stand him.

Anakin Skywalker - 14 years old, and very quiet. Has a good nature, and only speaks when he has something of substance to say.

Master Yoda - Must I say more? Besides that he is ACTUALLY Obi-Wan's master! =)

Princess Jaina Amidala - I always hated the name PADME, so I went for her future granddaughters name. It works. Oh, and she IS THE SAME AGE AS ANAKIN!!!!  More on her later.

Mon Mothma - She will have a larger role at some point. I want the characters that have bit parts in the OT to have larger roles in the prequels so that when you finally see them in OT you get a strong sense of history; and hopefully fond history.

King Leonis Organa - Father of Bail. They are having a family issue. =)

Ok, I gotta get busy. Maybe this will do for now. Comments are welcomed.

I know you posted on mininova, but what would i search for?

Yes, but perhaps Leia just assumed he said that due to him never knowing his mother so he wanted to know what it was like to know your real mother... So she assumed that Mama Organa WAS her mother....

I really want to bang out a script on this so bad... I had some seriously fun ideas last night.

nice matte.