adywan said:
HigHurtenflurst said:
Been lurking here for a while, soaking up all the SW geek goodness, getting cramps anticipating ESBR... Haven't read anything about this, and thought I'd throw it out for consideration.
I've always wondered how Yoda taught Luke his lightsaber skills, and wondered if it would be possible (or desireable) to add a little scene, just a couple of seconds worth in a sort of training "montage" of sorts, of Yoda and Luke sparring with sabers. Perhaps some grabs of footage from the prequels of Yoda fighting, combined with some footage from ESB of Luke fighting, super-imposed on a suitable Degobah background.
Just a couple of seconds between the existing scenes of him running/jumping/levitating stuff to sort of round out the Jedi training, and possibly explain how the farmboy managed to go 9 rounds with the Sith Lord.........
Something like this doesn't need to be added. We already saw Luke begin his saber training in ANH. His dagobah training was the next stage. We never got to see all of his training and a scene was filmed where he uses his lightsaber to try and cut a metal rod into seven pieces but this was cut.
Bobocop said:
One thing that's always seemed not quite right to me during the Bespin escape is right after the Slave I takes off. C3PO says "Chewie, they're behind you!" and you can see Lando in the background chilling out and stretching or something, then suddenly laser blasts fire, completely missing these stationary targets and then they all jump out of the way and start running again. It makes the stormtroopers seem even more incompetent.
I know there's this "nobody ever listens to C3PO" thing going on throughout the film, but it might make more sense to delay his line delivery slightly if possible, so that it looks like he warns them and they start moving again just in time to avoid the blasts, rather than have them snap out of it and take off after a few rounds completely miss them when nobody's even moving.
Looking at the shot lando lowers his head realising what he has done and as soon as CPO says his line and the trooper fires he dart out of the way. leia is slower to react because she is not really concentrating after she sees Slave 1 escaping with no way of rescuing Han. There is a very brief pause before they react so if possible i may move this line a few frames later.
oh_riginal said:
RoccondilRinon said:
I agree, OR. A nice subtle boost is all that's needed — no need to show the "grille" effect, something more resembling the Death Star escape is more appropriate.
I agree with no grill visual, as Ady had a good argument against using it in the other shots, since the engine had already been on long enough to be more lit up... but the Death Star escape still convinces me that the Bespin platform escape could use a little tweaking with the Falcon blasting off.
I think the engine looks so lit up already in the Bespin shot, that it just has to be downplayed and toned down while the Falcon is lifting off the ground, then blow back up to the original look as it is taking off. I don't know how possible that is to do with the existing shot, but someone like Ady could probably figure out a way to do it (but only if he wanted to.)
The main problem is that the original footage has a very strong engine glow and its impossible to remove this to make it more toned down. The sound FX do seem a bit out of place in this shot though so something may be done, but this may happen when i get to the audio side of things
fishmanlee said:
L & V both get their arm/'s cut off, i mean, whats up with that?
Its symbolism. Luke gets his hand cut off in ESB and when he becomes angry and cuts vaders hand off in ROTJ he looks down at vaders hand then at his own and sees the similarity between father and son and how close he is to being consumed by the dark side, like his father. This is what brings Luke back and the Emperor has failed to turn him.
Asteroid-Man said:
ady, I just posted the DVD cover for ROTJ: Revisited in the DVD thread if you wanted to take a look.
Very nice. i'm really liking those.
oh_riginal said:
So, I didn't notice anything about this on the first page, but is there anything that can be done about Yoda while he is on Luke's back during his training? He looks like a backpack with a Yoda head attached to it, especially when Luke stops running to catch a breath.
Though I'm not sure anything can be done to fix that.
I have tried to do something about this but its looking like nothing can be done short of building a puppet to replace him for this one shot, so not worth it. Even adding blinks wouldn't work because you wouldn't even notice it because he is too small in this shot.
oh_riginal said:
How about this? I would like to see a heat blur added to the torture scene, to better sell Han's reaction to the intense heat coming out of the torture device.
Here's a (poorly done) example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHKc08NEYg
Now while this is a good idea it does create a problem with all later shots of han. If this device produces so much heat to cause this amount of pain then why isn't his shirt scorched? Put something white next to an electric bar fire as close as han is to the device and see just what the heat would have done to his shirt. Just look how far away he is when he first reacts. that thing would have to produce some intense heat to cause a reaction like that. I've been thinking of adding some electrical arcs hitting han as he is lowered but i won't be adding a heat haze.
brash_stryker said:
Also, does anyone know whether Ady is using any fades as he did in ANH:R when they approach the falcon? Were there even any fades in ESB originally? That's probably my only problem with ANH:R now that I've got used to (and approve of) the other changes, not because it doesn't work, but because it's the only fade left in the film.
I replied to this in the ANH:R thread. The fade was always there in ANH until the SE came along and for some reason they omitted it (probably something to do with the added Jabba scene and the amount of wipes between the scenes). All i did was restore what was originally there, and had been for 20 years
The Golden Idol said:
So, Ady, what are you currently working on? The Wampa puppet? How's that coming?
Ripplin said:
I was wondering something, Adywan: are you the type that can have two or three projects (models, puppets, etc...) going at once, or do you prefer to finish one and then move on to the next one?
Well at the moment i hit a brick wall. I don't want to start the falcon just yet because i've been planning out what needs to be built first so i can concentrate on the Rebel Hangar and the falcon. These are the things that need to be done in order:
1- Asteroid trench &new crater background to replace the obvious matte used when the TIE bombers approach. The largest set pieces that definitely need to be done first so i can reclaim the space to continue with the next items.
2- Inside the slugs mouth - another large set
3- Wampa. A lot of work to be done on this especially when it gets to attaching each individual hair to the puppets face
4- Hoth Shield generator / Stop motion AT-AT/ stop motion AT-ST. All the outdoor snow scenes out of the way.
5- bespin vane and shaft to replace 2D matte. another large set approx 6ft x 6ft
6- Leia's apartment exterior new model - to fix the problems with the interiors and exterior scale.
7 - Interior hangar to replace rebel transport matte
8- Millennium falcon and Hangar set
9- Modified MPC stardestroyer with fibre optic lighting and correct detailing to replace many cut and paste or badly composited shots of the stardestroyers
10- Extra ships for the finale to replace obvious mattes and some camera movement problems with existing elements
Now i will be working on a few of these at the same time but some will need to be done individually. The falcon is going to take a long time to finish and with all the small parts i need to work on it without any other clutter. God some of those parts are microscopic.
Now the brick wall is that funding has gone. i have many of the materials but not all. you wouldn't believe how much plaster it takes to create a 11ft long 2.5ft high asteroid trench, and then there is the paints, wood and other materials for that set alone.
Now i was lucky with the fibre optics as i managed to get a job lot of 25 very large fibre optic UFO lamps for £5 off ebay.
And then theres the camera crane/ dolly i have to make so i can film all this stuff
So again i'm stuck. we got paid, had a small amount of spare cash which went immediately but managed to get only a small amount of the materials.
have i taken on too much? probably , yes, but i know i can do this. The results will be worth it and so much better than sticking with original elements, but its going to take a long time just to get the materials to get started on all this.
Do you have an estimate of how much money you need to finish? Even if it's a somewhat educated guess?
