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#184181
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I actually prefer the DVDs and can't wait for more edits, seriously.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/184181/action/topic#184181
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I feel that Anakin Skywalker and Mace Windu both died simultaniously. That is why the young Anakin ghost appears at the end of Jedi. He ceased being a Jedi at that moment and fully embrased the Dark Side and his new name, Darth Vader. I think his spirit went in "limbo" at that point, maybe helped by Qui Gon or something. He had little traces of good in him still as Darth Vader, but it wasn't until he saved his son at the end of RotJ that he redeemed himself and his spirit was set free. He had for the most part done no good as an old man, which is why the spirit appeared as it did.
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#182130
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Is 'Behind the Scenes of Star Wars' on DVD? (VideoNow disc)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/182130/action/topic#182130
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I just realized that the Wal-Mart “Story of Star Wars” DVD was based on this collection from the VideoNow kids DVD player thingie:

The Story of Star Wars personal video disc

Now it seems discs one and two, “The Story of Anakin Skywalker” and “The Story of Luke Skywalker” are what the walmart bonus Sith DVD is comprised of. But what about disc 3- “Behind the Scenes of Star Wars”? Does anyone know exactly what this is or even have a VideoNow player or have kids that have a videonow player? I wonder if it’s the same as the content on one of the official DVDs? I am almost tempted to buy a VideoNow player just to find out. And yes, I did purchase Episode II on VHS just to get the “Star Wars Connections” bonus feature, which is similar to the Story of Star Warsm which I unfortunatly didn’t buy Ep3 at WalMart so I missed out on.

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#181101
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I wonder how many silly kids are waiting for Episode IV to be released?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/181101/action/topic#181101
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Originally posted by: Scotty Balls
Mario,

Let me put it another way:

How would you (or anybody else here) feel if Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr went back into the studio and made changes to Sgt. Pepper, and then claimed it that the changes finally made the album the way they had originally wanted it to be in 1967?


Very interesting example, because that DID happen. With the Let it Be album. I don't remember the exact details, but yeah they did that. The difference is that the original version is availiable on the same format (CD).

I know we shouldn't forget the classics and they should be available, I'd just rather watch them the new way.
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#181015
Topic
I wonder how many silly kids are waiting for Episode IV to be released?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/181015/action/topic#181015
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OK, but movies are meant to be FUN! And to a lot of us, the prequels are. My girlfriend only saw them in Lucas' intended order and loved them. Well she's in love with Hayden and calls me Anakin and has me call her Padme sometimes, but that's beside the point. I know he did have some backstory planned, and if wasn't exactly the same as what we saw, so what? He knows this and he enjoys his own movies, so why can't we?

Look, the prequels were already made. We can't change that. Same with the OT. I guess Lucas could have digitally changed Hayden's (and Jake Lloyd's) eye color to be the same as Sebastion Shaw's, but wouldn't that be a lot more work than changing something that's only on screen for two seconds? Now Yoda in TPM NEEDS to be changed. So there's a PT change to accomidate the OT, it does work both ways.

You gotta admit the changes to the OT to fit the PT are all very minor and are only on the screen for no more than 5 minutes tops. (even if you add up all the changes together it won't total more than five minutes (Krayt dragon call, Boba Fett's 3 lines, Emperor scene in ESB/ unmasking/ ghost/ Naboo and Jedi Temple in celebration). Am I missing anything? The other changes had nothing to do with the PT.

What would you have done differently? Obviously since at least 1980 there were plans to someday make 1-3. How would YOUR episodes 1-3 have gone down?
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#181009
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Info: HEY! You Fan Editors are all mini George Lucases!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/181009/action/topic#181009
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OK, but in all honesty (I posted this in another thread), exactly WHAT was changed ONLY to conform to the prequels? This is all I can come up with:

Boba Fett's voice
Anakin ghost/ eye color/ eyebrows
a couple of minor edits to the ending celebration
(someone else pointed out) the Krayt dragon or whatever call was changed into noise of the thingie Obi rode in Sith

Now, don't say the emperor, because that change should have been made A LONG TIME ago. You know, way back in 1997. I know the dialouge is negligable, but the monkey lady.. no way. I mean it was either this or change Ian in RotJ into the monkey lady. It never should have been two different people, even before the prequels were made.

I challenge someone to find things that were changed besides the four (maybe five) I posted above that were changed because of the prequels. Everything else was changed simply to improve the effects/ original vision, but not because of the prequels. I mean most of the changes were made in 1997 two years before Phantom Menace!
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#180994
Topic
I wonder how many silly kids are waiting for Episode IV to be released?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180994/action/topic#180994
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Originally posted by: Scotty Balls
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi

I would like that... A LOT



You (and marioxb) would.


So?

Plus, for me, when watching the movies in chronological order, I really can pretend that ANH was released AFTER Sith. And that is only possible with the DVD edition with all of their glorious changes.

Y'know, Adam, we should start our own forums, Star Wars Complete Saga.com or something. I bet there are more of us (prequel/ SE lovers) out there than there are haters. We are just the only two that post on these forums.

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#180988
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Info: HEY! You Fan Editors are all mini George Lucases!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180988/action/topic#180988
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Nevermind. I was just kinda trying to be funny. But it really does get confusing trying to figure out which version of a patricular fan made thingie to get. I don't have enough time or HD space to download them all to compare. And I really do like the OOT, just simply prefer the DVD versions and love the prequels to death.

I just really don't understand the hate for the prequels and the SE's/ Super SE's. The originals are cool, I don't hate em. I just like it seeming that they were filmed AFTER Revenge of the Sith. That's the intention. Having the 2004DVDs WITH all of the changes is the ONLY way that is possible.
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#180454
Topic
I wonder how many silly kids are waiting for Episode IV to be released?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180454/action/topic#180454
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Think about it. I did when I saw Episode III in the theater (twice by the way, more than I have seen any other SW in the theater, unless you count the 1997 releases, meaning I have seen III-VI exactly twice each in the theaters).

OK. You are a kid born after 1983. Somehow you were living under a rock and never heard of the "internet" or "Star Wars". 1999 rolls around and you watch this cool movie called Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace. "Hmm, that was pretty cool." Three years later a sequel comes out. "Even better! I can't wait for part 3!" Then you watch it and love it. "WOW! When are they gonna make a sequel to this one! That was the best one yet! I can't wait to see what happens to those babies and Anakin! What's his name now, um Darth Tater or something? Oh yeah Darth Vader. I bet in 2008 they will probably make an episode IV! That would be awesome!"

Then he's at wal-mart. A box set of episodes IV-VI! "Woah! That was fast! Man I didn't think one more would be made this fast! They made three more and they were all direct to video? That sucks! Oh well, I'll buy it anyway. I gotta see what happens next!!"

Think about it! I bet there is at least ONE person in the world that thinks like this. And with the quality of the DVD releases I can actually believe that they were filmed post-2005. As it should seem.
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#180449
Topic
Inserting deleted scene of Yoda's exile into ANH??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180449/action/topic#180449
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OK, Anakin came back BREIFLY at the end of RotJ to talk to and save his son. Darth Vader even said a little while before that Anakin had no meaning for him.

And I said many times, I like the original versions and have nothing against them. I just prefer the newer ones because I love having perfect continuity and better effects. When I watch the movies now (in order) I like to pretend that 4, 5, 6 were actually filmed AFTER 1, 2 and 3. With the official DVD's that is easy to do. I think that is the intention. I was born in 1976. The originals were cool back then. It wasn't until I had my eyes opened by the WAY BETTER 1997 special editions and the SWEET DVD versions that the originals became inferior. Just like on the Beauty and the Beast DVD, where they have the workprint version of the film. It's cool to have, but that shouldn't be the version you actually WATCH, other than to compare it or show it to someone that's never seen it that way.
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#180443
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Info: HEY! You Fan Editors are all mini George Lucases!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180443/action/topic#180443
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It's not that. I like the original versions, they just don't have to be super duper quality for me. I like the ones that have the isolated score and subtitles in case I ever feel like watching it that way. I just prefer the updated versions because I love the changes (I honestly could care less about Greedo. It doesn't change the Han character at all for me. In fact I never would have noticed if the internet didn't tell me Plus I really, really like seeing Hayden Christsensen at the end of Jedi. It really completes the saga for me, as Anakin and Mace Windu died simulataniously) and I love the prequels. I came to this site mostly for the fan made bonus material stuff. Not because of my love for the "pure" versions. One copy of each thing is just fine for me. One version of each 2004 movie, one version of each 1997 release (need to find these), one version of each theatrical movie, (the latter two not because I prefer them, just to have) and one version of each special/ making of thingie.
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#180359
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Info: HEY! You Fan Editors are all mini George Lucases!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180359/action/topic#180359
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Not that’s a bad thing, as the man has never done a single thing I didn’t agree with. This is for all you Vader hatersm um I mean Lucas haters out there. You complain that he keeps updating and changing the Star Wars films. Well, you guys do the same thing, keep re-releasing your projects with better transfers and stuff like that. Yet when Mr. Lucas does it, yall get mad. And there’s like what, 1000 different DVDr versions of the OT? At least there is only ONE official release (so far). And what’s with the Muppet show and various other things on like every collection? C’mon, aint once enough for each special? I suppose the difference is that you guys, unlike Lucas, allow people to CHOOSE. Whatever. The similarities to you people and George Lucas are still uncanny. It like a double standard or something. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Anyway, I’m still sticking with my thing that if you want the OOOOOOOT or whatever the heck we are calling it these days, just get a damn DVD-R of it and be done with it. No need for an official release. I doubt I would buy the original unaltered versions if they were ever released. I’ve already got 'em. (Well as soon as I get the ISO mixes of Empire and Jedi that is) It’s much more fun for me to buy and watch the (to me) superior mega never-ending updated versions. (Though I do think that the 2007/ 3D versions will be the last updates forever, at least on DVD) Anyone care to bet on that?

George Lucas (and all of his changes) rules! I LOVE the prequels. And I am dead serious. At times I like em better than Trilogy 2. (That should be the names- Star Wars Trilogy 1 (1-3) and Trilogy 2 (3-6). Actually Star Wars Saga is better.)

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#180357
Topic
Inserting deleted scene of Yoda's exile into ANH??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180357/action/topic#180357
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Originally posted by: Scotty Balls
Originally posted by: marioxb
Honestly, what was REALLY changed in the OT only to match with the PT? All I can say is Hayden Christensen and Boba Fett's voice. Nothing else. It wasn't possible to have those two things back when the movies were made, so obviously they had to be added, and IMO the movies as a whole saga (the only way they should ever be watched) are better for it.

Everything else was only changed to better the effects/ restore to his original vision. This would have been done (and was) even if there never were any prequels.

I challenge people to find other examples than the two I listed above that were changed ONLY because the prequel trilogy exists. The Emperor thing I don't count, (maybe the dialouge..?) because it should have been the same dude from RotJ all along.


Does he REALLY want to go there? God, I hope not.... Oh well. Here we go.

How about these changes:

Adding footage from ROTJ into TESB (Vader's shuttle)
Greedo shooting first (COMPLETELY changing Solo's character from an "integrity challenged, shoot first, ask questions later kinda guy that eventually lets' his conscience get the bst of him & does the right thing" into a "Completely honorable, do the right thing, acting in self defense kinda guy"
Boba Fett in ANH - WHY???!!??? What purpose does that serve? If anything, it makes him look like another one of Jabba's flunkies who's been there all along, instead of "the best bounty hunter in the galaxy".
The Wampa in TESB. I always thought that scene was much scarier when you just heard it. Seeing it ruins it for me. Implied violence is ALWAYS more effective than when it's displayed.

And how about the BIGGEST change of all; GL HIMSELF telling us on the Audio Commentaries of the 2004 DVDs that when Leia tells Luke about her mother, that she's talking about her ADOPTED Mother. Ever since 1983, we ALL knew that Leia was talking about (who ended up as) Padme. But GL decided to kill her off in Ep 3, which TOTALLY CONTRADICTS Leia saying, "she died when I was very young".

Are those enough changes for you?

Well, duh! I know what was changed! But I said what was changed ONLY to fit with the prequel trilogy. None of the above qualifies, except the commentary, which I actually didn't listedn to yet and didn't know he said that. I forgot about the celebration. OK, so there were a few minor details added to the celebration because of the PT. Big deal.


Anakin was an OLD MAN when he died, therefore his ghost should be old too AND WITH EYEBROWS


Nope. DARTH VADER was an old man when he died. ANAKIN died at the same time as Mace Windu.

Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi

Actually, there is a place where he would fit extremely well. After Alderaan is destroyed, Obi-Wan feels the disturbance, and sets down. A scene could be added directly before (or directly after) this moment, where Dagobah is once again established, and Yoda senses the destruction just as Obi-Wan does.


Yup. Just like I said when I started this thread. Though it should be a clip of him already on Dagobah, instead of landing there, unlike my original idea.


Yeah, yeah, yeah. Original classics untouched bla, bla, bla. But ONLY for comparisions sake if you ask me. Just to see the "workprint" versions as I will from now on refer to them.
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#180236
Topic
Inserting deleted scene of Yoda's exile into ANH??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180236/action/topic#180236
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Honestly, what was REALLY changed in the OT only to match with the PT? All I can say is Hayden Christensen and Boba Fett's voice. Nothing else. It wasn't possible to have those two things back when the movies were made, so obviously they had to be added, and IMO the movies as a whole saga (the only way they should ever be watched) are better for it.

Everything else was only changed to better the effects/ restore to his original vision. This would have been done (and was) even if there never were any prequels.

I challenge people to find other examples than the two I listed above that were changed ONLY because the prequel trilogy exists. The Emperor thing I don't count, (maybe the dialouge..?) because it should have been the same dude from RotJ all along.
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#180188
Topic
Inserting deleted scene of Yoda's exile into ANH??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180188/action/topic#180188
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I just wish they were filmed in order so everyone can finally shut up. It would have been funny if they were filmed completly out of order. Like Clone Wars, 6, 2, 5, 1, 4, 3. Then people would probably say they were meant to be watched im this order. I know I saw the orginal in '77 when I was a baby, but I was too young to remember that. I remember asking my dad how come it said Episode IV and he really didn't know. I was always hoping that there would be a 1 2 and 3 and I got my wish and I was never disappointed.
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#180182
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Inserting deleted scene of Yoda's exile into ANH??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/180182/action/topic#180182
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Originally posted by: Jay
All these ideas about incorporating things into the OT come from viewers seeing the two trilogies as a series of chronological events instead of films that are trying to tell a story. This is made evident by the many fans who say the films should be watched in chronological order because that obeys the timeline in which the events occurred. That's so backward from a storytelling standpoint I simply don't understand the appeal of it.

Could you sit a Star Wars virgin down and show him the films in chronological order without ruining the dramatic tension of IV, V, and VI? The answer is no. The impact of "I...am your father!" is reduced from a revelation to a "Well, duh!" moment for the audience.



Of course you can! So what if it makes you wsay "duh"? That's the only way my girlfriend ever saw them, and the way I will always recommend to watch them. It was a totally different experience for her. She knew that Darth was Luke and Leia's dad and that L&L were brother and sister. She kept asking me, "So when is Luke gonna find out that's his dad?" or when will they find out they are brother and sister? I told her to just wait and see. So there can still be surprises. YOU know, but you don't know when the characters will know. I think it's a really cool experience to watch 1-2-clone wars-3-4-5-6 in that order. All of the movies are AWESOME in every way.
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#179882
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Changes you want (or don't want) to the 2007 archival editions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/179882/action/topic#179882
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My list is much like the one you posted, (I know you didnt make it) except for Qui Gon at the end of Jedi, since Luke doesn't know him. PLUS, add this to A New Hope: maybe just SOME stormtroopers could have Jango's voice. Also, erase the second red R2 or whatever when Owen purchases the droids. I'm also not sure of why some of the changes below (the ones I put "WHY?" after) would need/ want to be changed?

THE PHANTOM MENACE:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:-
1. Some of Jar Jar Binks's lines have been removed and some have been changed

2. Improved CGI backgrounds in certain scenes

3. Yoda's facial expressions are now mostly CGI (body still puppet)

4. Darth Sidious digitally shadowed so his face is more hidden

5. A scene has been added where Qui-Gon lectures Obi-Wan about the importance of his lightsaber (filmed during episode I)

6. Several short shots have been added at various points in the film of the Naboo labour camps and people suffering in them (filmed during episode III)

7. During the underwater journey, the second Sando monster attack with a Colo Claw fish has been cut (WHY?)

Running Time Before: 133mins New Running Time: 132mins

Features:-
Slightly altered audio commentary (because film will be slightly shorter)
Deleted Scenes
Original Theatrical Trailers
TV Spots
Duel Of The Fates Music Video Featuring John Williams
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


ATTACK OF THE CLONES:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:-
1. The Jedi Raid on the Droid Control ship has been completed and added to the film (orginal scene filmed during episode II, additional footage shot during episode III)

2. The noises Yoda makes while fighting Dooko have been changed

3. One of C-3PO's lines has been changed and another one has been removed

4. Darth Sidious digitally shadowed so his face is more hidden

5. When Mace Windu shows up on Genosis, the shots showing him slowly walk up to Dooku and Jango is cut. (WHY?)

6. A short scene has been added where Anakin talks with Owen Lars (filmed during episode II)

Running Time Before: 142mins New Running Time: 145mins

Features:-
Slightly longer audio commentary (because film will be slightly longer)
Deleted Scenes
Theatrical Teasers
Launch Trailer
TV Spots
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


REVENGE OF THE SITH:
The Additions:
1. A scene has been added where Yoda explains to Obi-Wan who erased Kamino from the Jedi files and that he is going to await contact on the planet Dagabah (filmed during episode III)

2. An extended battle on Kassakk that shows more battling & Yoda and Chewbacca fighting (filmed during episode III)

3. The Dooko Vs Anakin & Obi-Wan duel is slighly longer (filmed during episode III)

Running Time Before: 140mins New Running Time: 144mins

Features:-
Audio commentary
Deleted Scenes
Theatrical Trailers
TV Spots
John Williams Music Video
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production

EPISODES I-III BONUS DISK:
'From Dreams to Reality' (in depth making of the Prequel Trilogy including interviews with George Lucas, Rick Macallum, John Williams, Ewan Mc Gregor, Natalie Portman, Hayden Christian, Samuel L. Jackson, Frank Oz, Anthony Daniels & Christopher Lee) It runs at about 2hrs 40mins

Preview of 'Clone Wars 3D' television series

Blooper Reel (over 6 & a half mins)

'Extending the Saga' (an in-depth look at how the Lucas's original plot for Star Wars has changed)

'CGI'ing the Movies' (an in-depth look at how CGI has had a dramatic effect on the Prequel Trilogy)

'Saber Fights' (A documentary regarding all the lightsaber fights in the Prequel Trilogy. Presented by Nick Gillard)

R2-D2: Beneath the Dome

'The Fans’ (Documentary on how Star Wars has created generations of fans, how it's affected their lives and how fans have expanded the Saga with the likes of fan films, fan fiction & fan art)

44 Web-Docs chronicling the making of the Prequel Trilogy: 12 from Episode I, 12 from Episode II and 20 from Episode III

Exclusive DVD-ROM Content


A NEW HOPE:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:-
1. The 'Imperial March' music has been added to Vader's first appearance

2. When Obi-Wan is talking to Luke about his father Anakin’s theme music can heard in the background and when Obi-Wan starts talking about Vader it changes to the Imperial March

3. Luke’s lightsaber is blue throughout the film

4. In several scenes where creatures are seen (e.g. The Cantina) some have been replaced by creatures seen in the prequels

5. The bleeding arm Obi-Wan slices off a creature in the Cantina does not have blood seen on it

6. Just before the Death Star destroys Alderaan there is a new scene added where different places on the planet can be seen along with Bail Organa. Shots include Bail being warned of the Death Star, the destruction on the planet which includes massive earthquakes, fire and people frantically trying to escape, you see Bail looking up into the blackened sky before the planet totally blows up (filmed during episode III)

7. The Death Star’s computers and screens have been improved

8. The opening text crawl's last paragraph has changed slightly. The line 'headed by Governor Tarkin and the evil Sith lord Darth Vader' has been added into it.

9. Luke looks upset when Biggs dies and he sheds a tear (all CGI & PRT)

10. The duel between Vader & Obi-Wan is roughly a minute longer as there are more shots of the lightsabers clashing and them moving about (done using CGI, PRT & Stuntmen playing Vader & Obi-Wan). Music has been added to the scene as well (details unknown yet)

11. Just before the medal ceremony at the end, a scene has been added where Vader lands his damaged ship on Coruscant to meet Palpatine. They discuss the destruction of the Death Star, Obi-Wan, & finding the Rebels (filmed during Episode III)

12. Vader's mask eyes remain black throughout the film and his suit is shinier.

13. John Williams has rescored the music for some of the scenes (details unknown yet apart from changes 1 & 2 in this list)

14. A shot of a Rebel ship crashing into Death Star has been removed and replaced with better effects

15. The Death Star's countdown timer has been altered so it is clear it is counting down from 30 minutes

16. The Millennium Falcon's dish has been added in shots where it is missing

17. C-3PO’s line 'there won't be an escape for the princess this time" has been changed to “there be no escape this time”

18. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare & Logo have been updated

19. The end credits have been updated

Running Time Before: 125mins New Running Time: 130mins

Features:-
Altered Audio Commentary (because of changes)
'A Completed Saga' (interview with George Lucas about the new changes to A New Hope, why he made them and comparing them to the previous versions)
6 Deleted Scenes
Theatrical Trailer
TV Spots
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:-
1. Some shots where Taun-taun’s can be seen have been changed so the Tuan-tuan’s have more movement and look more realistic

2. While the battle of Hoth is going on, Imperial ships land near the Rebel base and a few more shots of ships flying and being destroyed have been added

3. Some of the views of Bespin (for example the background where Luke is holding on to the metal poles beneath a building) have been improved to look more realistic and ships can be seen flying around in the distance

4. A scene has been added where Yoda is teaching Luke how to fight with a lightsaber made possible by Luke wearing a helmet while training (a stunt double plays him, Mark Hamill provides the voice although it is digitally dubbed)

5. The Wampa scenes have been edited and restored into the film as well as new scenes added. We see a Wampa being brought into the Rebel base and locked into a room with other Wampa’s. Later C-3PO rips the sign off the door the Wampa’s are behind stating their there and when the Stormtroopers enter the base they open the door only to be attacked by the Wampa’s who then can be seen escaping as the Millennium Falcon blasts off out of Hoth

6. Lightsaber effects improved

7. The sound of Luke’s lightasber turning off as he exits the cave has been removed

8. Some of Yoda's facial expressions have been improved with CGI

9. John Williams has rescored the music for some of the scenes (details unknown yet)

10. There is a line added and one changed in the hologram scene (details unknown yet)

11. The landscape of Dagobah through the fog has been extended using CGI.

12. In the opening text crawl the words “The evil lord Darth Vader” has changed to “The evil Sith Lord Darth Vader”

13. The line Vader says 'Set your course for the Hoth system, I am sure Skywalker is with them' has been changed to 'Set your course for the Hoth system, the rebels have no escape this time'

14. The Star Destroyer hanger Vader returns too has been altered as the surroundings have been changed with CGI.

15. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare & Logo have been updated

16. The end credits have been updated

Running Time Before: 129mins New Running Time: 134mins



Features:-
Altered Audio Commentary (because of changes)
'A Completed Saga' (interview with George Lucas about the new changes to The Empire Strikes Back, why he made them and comparing them to the previous versions)
3 Deleted Scenes
Theatrical Trailers
TV Spots
Collection of Photographs of Cast,Crew & Production


RETURN OF THE JEDI:
New Digital and Audio transfer
The Changes:
1. In the battle on Endor more Ewoks and Stormtroopers can be seen fighting and dieing and some parts of the battle have been edited out, members of Han’s team can be seen fighting as well (these scenes were shot during the production of Episode I, 7 years ago)

2. Vader uses the force to reclaim his lightasber after he throws it at Luke and the sound of him turning it on again has been removed

3. The lightasber duel between Luke and Vader is slightly longer (just more shots of clshing lightsabers)

4. The lightsaber effects have been improved

5. Vader has a flashback of Padme after his talk with Luke when he first meets him on Endor (filmed during Episode III)

6. Kashyyk & Utapau have been added to the end celebration scenes

7. Some of Yoda's facial expressions have been improved because of CGI

8. Boba Fett's scream has been changed

9. Chewbacca's Tarzan call has been removed and replaced with a different sound

10. John Williams has rescored the music for some of the scenes (details unknown yet)

11. Some of the battle shots have been cut and replaced with longer improved ones

12. Some shots with Ewoks are now partially CG (mainly facial expressions)

13. While Vader is watching the Emperor killing Luke we see and hear snippets of his life flash by (they include winning podrace, mother’s death, killing Dooko, kissing Padme, helping Sidious defeat Mace, dueling with Obi-Wan, being burned by lava, striking down Obi-Wan & Luke falling from a platform). The whole section adds about 20 seconds to that scene

15. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare & Logo have been updated

16. The end credits have been updated

Running Time Before: 135mins New Running Time: 138mins

Features:-
Altered Audio Commentary (because of changes)
'A Completed Saga' (interview with George Lucas about the new changes to Return of the Jedi, why he made them and comparing them to the previous versions)
Theatrical Trailers
TV Spots
4 Deleted Scenes
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#178586
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I actually prefer the DVDs and can't wait for more edits, seriously.
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Yeah, I want the OOT versions on DVD, and you know what? The versions that are out now (unofficial) are good enough. Except it means that a LOT of people won't be smart enough to find a way to watch them on DVDs (you know, those people that don't know how to work a DVD-R or order from ebay, AKA Joe Six-Pack). If I want to watch movies of inferior quality, then I will watch the OOT, just to see how far we have come from back then. They are fine just the way they are. No need to upgrade the picture quality or special effects for the original versions. If I want to see higher quality versions (and matching the cool prequels better to boot) then I will watch the DVD versions. I would almost settle for VHS being the media of choice for the IMO inferior by today's standards, but still good, OOT. Except for the fact that I like the option of scene selection, bonus features and isolated score, plus I don't wanna wear out the tapes. That's it. The quality of the original versions is good enough. For the improved quality/ better effects/ prequel tie-ins/ that is reserved for the updated 2004-2007 versions.

I think that everyone that REALLY REALLY REALLY wants the OOT on DVD already has them, and that should be good enough. It is for me.
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#178334
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I actually prefer the DVDs and can't wait for more edits, seriously.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
"Cutting the pieces off to make the puzzle fit"? I'm sorry, and I don't want to sound like a flamer, and I'm sure anyone on these boards can attest that I don't, but that just sounds pretty damned dumb. Please don't tell me you actually did this as a child! You couldn't figure out how the puzzle worked, so you simply made it fit? You see, in a puzzle, the pieces are created with the sole purpose of fitting together. If they don't fit together, then you don't have a puzzle. And you don't take your puzzle of the Golden Gate Bridge and try to combine it with a puzzle with a puzzle of the Statue of Liberty. They aren't meant to fit together, and so they won't unless you deface them. What the prequels should have been was the other half of the puzzle, or, no... a small little corner whose detail you can't quite see. Its clarification isn't necessary, but it would be nice to know what was in that corner. Those are what the prequels should have been. A part that's custom made to fit the existing puzzle. Instead, you have the orignals as the Statue of Liberty, and the prequels as the Golden Gate Bridge, and Lucas tries his damndest to make this implausible situation fit.

There's just no logical standpoint to it.


Well, I was trying to be funny with that puzzle thing and no, I never did that. On the other hand, I should have used this analogy. I bet EVERYONE has done this. Taking the stickers off of the Rubix Cube because you go so frustrated with it and were happy when you could pretend that you got all the colors lined up again.

But I do love every version of Star Wars out there, the newer the better. I can't look at Darth Vader and not see Hayden Christsensen inside the suit, which is a good thing by the way. I can easilly see the movies looking like they were filmed AFTER Sith, which is the way it should appear. Yeah they were filmed before, so what? I think it turned out great the way it did.

Hey, wouldn't it be cool if Jake Lloyd did a cmeo as little Luke somewhere in the TV series? Maybe this is only a question for Adamwankenobi. By the way, when I was little my mom said I looked like Luke Skywalker. I used to have blond hair and it was even in the same style as Jake's in TPM. Yeah, I liked Star Wars as a child, but because it has explosions, fighting, ewoks, lightsabers, and cool toys. That's all. I didn't care about or understand any of the technical aspects. So go ahead and change them and make them better, as good as the prequels, technology speaking.

As a matter of fact, did anyone see the 2004 (or was it 2005?) MTV movie awards post show? Where they had this fake award for this pretend critic that liked EVERY movie? "Wow! I'm watching a MOVIE!! This is great! I have popcorn! Yeah!! Awesome" and he gave like 5 stars to movies like Gigli and stuff? Well, that guy kinda is me. If the movie is entertaining/ has a lot of action/ is funny (any combination) and not totally boring, it gets an A+ in my book. Never had any desire to see Gigli though.
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#177951
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Create a subtitle stream like this? (See pics inside)
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Is it possible to make a subtitle stream like this? I have Street Fighter II- The Animated Movie on US DVD and a very bad quality subtitled Japanese VHS. I want to get the Japanese DVD so I can create a hybrid Japanese/ English version. Both the US and Japanese versions ONLY contain the one language version. What they did when they released the US version, every time a location came up on the screen in Japanese, it was covered with a black box with English text, as seen below. (I simulated the below images since I couldn't find a proper Japanese screenshot.)
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/8482/pdvd0024bn.jpg Japanese
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/2567/pdvd0016nv.png English version

Is there any subtitle program that would allow me to do something like this, create a subtitle stream with a black box behind it? I want this so I can keep both versions in tact on my new DVD, maybe having the stream automatically selected when English language is selected? There are about 10-20 times this happens in the movie and it is displayed for about 10 seconds.