I’ve seen several versions of the pre-AOTC flashback but has anyone tried deep-faking Anakin in Reva’s flashback?
Definitely works better to show that Kenobi actually went somewhere to get into the water. Nice job!
I got this idea in my head as I was doing some finishing touches on the last duel and the ending, and… well, see for yourself:
So, that’s what I spent the last two hours on. I just had to put it together to see if this is something we should chase or leave alone. It’s probably too fanedit-y and radical too be included, but worth giving a shot.
-> Definitely a more interesting rescue, by far, imo.
-> We actually get Obi-Wan in some good, interesting action before the film’s second act - which is more of a thriller-y, slow-burn type of act (which i love, but some starting action might be a good thing).
-> Lovely atmosphere
-> Hajja is more useful
-> Leia wears the same robe that Obi-Wan later buys (but I’ve changed the sweater’s color from green to brown).
-> Why does Obi-Wan change outfit? (They are almost similar, but perhaps he borrowed some from his fake jedi friend Hajja?
-> When they escape the facility later on, they come out a door from an establishing shot turning close-up. They wear lab suits. This, imo, is not an issue - as we can let the imagination assume that they followed an escape plan set up by Hajja, and changed clothes on their ways back out for security meassures.
-> Too fanedit-y?
Also, the Inquisitor Fortress never make an apperance in the film (not because of this change - this is just for fun).
Cheers, guys. I’ll respond to posts I haven’t responded to later/tomorrow. Brain is fried.
Thank you for your continuing support and lovely feedback. ❤️
Only change I’d suggest is trim Obi-Wan lightsabering the first stormtrooper in the dark room. The way he hits the trooper in the chest a few times makes it look more like he’s attacking with a baseball bat or something. If it’s not possible to trim it in a good way though I understand.
Idea for a film edit:
Take the pre-AOTC flashback and cut it up to space throughout the movie. Have part of it play when Ben is dreaming in the cave, another part during the bacta tank scene and then the last part either during Vader’s march on Jabiim or when Kenobi is under the rocks in Part 6.
I was one of those suckers who was actually really excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) because Deborah Chow and Kelley DIxon’s work on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad fuckin’ rule. Needless to say, that was a bit misguided.
So I took a crack at editing the show to be closer in tone and style to what I expected out of BB-verse alumni.
I don’t think I’m going to do the whole show, but it was just a fun little experiment. The edit isn’t supposed to be like BB/BCS fwiw, just approaching the material with some of the storytelling philosophy I learned from them.
At the very least, Deborah Chow’s sensibilities as a director were still conducive to being arranged in this way so at least some of my excitement wasn’t unfounded
This is beautiful. Great work!
I think getting rid of Ben’s “my friend really is dead” line is enough. Vader believing he’s “killed” the part of himself that is Anakin works just fine.
Could I get a PM of this?
If you’re starting Episode I mid-podrace then you could have the crawl establish that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan specifically came to Tatooine to check in on reports of a force-sensitive child.
Would people like to see the Anakin & Obi-Wan sparring sequence as a whole in the beginning of the film, as a memory when Obi-Wan is dreaming, before later showing up again in the way it is presented in EP 5 (apart from cuts and trims)?
The reason I ask is because introducing it as a happy memory, for instance BEFORE the bad memories/flashback nightmare sequence, could start the film with a kind of realization that those happy times are definitively over, and also have Anakin’s death (sort of) kind of looming even harder over the overall film. Not to mention it is impactful to have the seeds of Anakin’s arrogance re-planted before “EP 5 happens”.
The downside and the counter-arguement is of course that the viewer might feel less impacted by the flashback, and perhaps the film starts on one too many of them.
Share your views - I would be very interested to hear them.
I’d love to see the AOTC flashback portrayed as Obi-Wan’s dream in the beginning, instead of the re-used footage from the three prequel films. Flashbacks in the fifth episode (and I’d argue that flashbacks being used at all) are wholly unnecessary, and to me breaks the flow of the story.
Obi-Wan’s dream sequence seems to be an excuse to use more footage from the prequels (filler footage). It even shows Anakin in situations that Obi-Wan wasn’t even physically present for (namely young Anakin in the Naboo Starfighter).
You wouldn’t even need to use the entire AOTC flashback as a dream sequence, you’d need just enough footage to illustrate Anakin’s anger and need for victory.
I like this because it also presents it as Obi-Wan reflecting on his training of Anakin. Like he’s fixated on finding the flaws in his approach that led to his fall.
So with the latest episode of Kenobi, is anyone working on deep-faking Anakin in the practice-fight scene with Obi-Wan?
I hope so. The scene felt a little weird with an obviously 40-year-old Hayden Christensen playing 18/19 year-old Anakin. I loved everything else about those sequences so a good deepfake would be amazing to see.
If we can get a good deepfake for Anakin in that new episode of Kenobi it would be a fantastic way to introduce him in AOTC!
21C Peasant said:
SC38 will be mixed in at the end of the film, BUT - with that being said - I will definitely have to do a lot of rotoscoping work because there are many flaws between that footage and the original film. The background lights change intensity and sometimes shades of white all over the place, and the corridor also looks to get bigger as we switch to the SC38 footage. But I’ll have to see when I start work on that.
The video is in 1080 if you download it.
This is easily the best use of Sc38 in the context of ANH I’ve seen. Well done!
That version of the “obi-wan” sounds way more natural now!
An idea if you want to still keep most of part four:
Cut straight from “where’s leia” to the scene where they’re planning to infiltrate the fortress. This cuts out the abrupt and kinda clunky scene of Roken (was that his name?) changing his mind about helping Kenobi.
Tell me if you think this works. I did some re-editing to make the droid save Obi-Wan quicker, as suggested by Acbagel, and then re-structured the line (that i actually had removed from earlier) “The years have made you weak” with a slowed-down and disappoined “Obi-Wan” at the end of it. The purpose is to almost make Vader give up an immediate hunt because he is disappointed - but without it feeling to on the nose with something like “Escape. I will find you” or some clichè line you’ve heard in countless films and series.
I like this but I think you should cut the “obi-wan” out of Vader’s final words there simply ending on “weak”
The Obi-Wan on the end makes it feel very stitched together.
Obviously to make it work some VFX stuff would need to be done with Anakin’s hand but great idea!
I’d love to see this. While I did enjoy the show quite a bit I thought it could be better and a lot of these choices seem like they’d improve what I thought were the weak points.
Could I get a link?
I think the piano works not because it implies Anakin’s sadness over doing this but rather Obi-Wan’s sadness over not being able/willing to stop it.
I’m suprised that there appears to be such momentum behind editing Kenobi, because I’ve found it near flawless so far. Perhaps that’s just a lack of imagination!
I felt like I was the only one on this site who actually was thoroughly enjoying this show. lol
I know I want to do an edit of it myself as a total restructure of the prequel trilogy (AOTC, ROTS, Kenobi) but it seems like most people are wanting to fix the show because they think it’s broken.
ANAKIN RETURNS - IMPERIAL MARCH EXAMPLE:
The version of the Imperial March used here makes this feel super cheesy. If you could find a more horror-esque arrangement of it then I think it would work a lot better.
Edit: saw further down you did another one with the piano version and I LOVE that.
The biggest thing music-wise for me is that when Vader stands up in his throne room we NEED to hear the Imperial March. And possibly while he’s walking down the street murdering people to draw out Kenobi.
Link doesn’t work for me.
Never thought I’d see a Scott The Woz fan edit on here. lol
I would love to watch it!
Darth Raditz said:
- The Anakin is alive reveal (why the F does she assume Obi-Wan doesn’t know this? They haven’t talked)
Same way Vader sensed Luke’s feeling & found out about Leia being his daughter? The Third Sister prodded an emotional reaction out of Obi-Wan and capitalized it, not sure this is that big a deal.
Still, I’m excited for this edit. I’m more optimistic then I was with Book of Boba, but only time will tell.
- But only a handful should know that Anakin is Darth Vader, and It feels weird that this random Sith wannabe sits on this type of knowledge.
- She knows Obi-Wan Kenobi was his best friend, and to scream Anakin is alive to provoke a reaction felt cheap. But your arguement is good because it is a sort-of canon explanation.
Thank you. I am as well.
She was probably one of the kids at the temple in the order 66 scene. If she was hidden and saw Anakin being addressed by the clones as Vader then she’d know.