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#1476470
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The Prequels as Mando style episodes; PM for Links
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Episode 7 is finished and gets us up to the beginning of the Clone Wars. Episode ends with the Arena battle. I may skip the next episode which is essentially just the first battle of the clone wars, and jump straight to Revenge of the Sith. Will be traveling all next week, so no more updates until April.

I think episodes 1-7 really attempt to rework the worst parts of the prequels in my opinion, The final battle in AOTC and Revenge of the Sith don’t need much work to make them watchable for me personally. But will still edit them into the episode format to keep consistent with the rest of my preferred way to watch the prequels.

PM for links.

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#1475609
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Anyone else hoping we can get two quality feature length film edits from the Obi-Wan Kenobi Series?

‘Revenge of the Sith’ can become Episode 1, and episodes 2 and 3 will be comprised of the new Obi-Wan series. Then everything pre-clone wars would be a separate format. There is a beautiful symmetry to starting the Trilogies with Anakin and Obi-wan as close friends, and Anakin being the “the greatest starfighter pilot in the galaxy”. I always felt the dialogue from Obi-Wan in ANH should have been the primary focus of the prequel trilogy. End of the Clone wars, great star pilot, Anakin becoming Vader, hunting down remaining Jedi, etc.

Maybe it is just me. 😃

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#1475600
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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BedeHistory731 said:

Make each “episode” a TV season made up of different movies (the PT, Andor, Kenobi, Solo, R1, etc.).

You might be interested in my Fanedit project, turning the Prequels into TV episodes. For the first time, I’ve been able to enjoy the prequels in this format.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequels-as-Mando-style-episodes-PM-for-Links/id/91076

I’ll be uploading the next two episodes tonight or tomorrow.

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#1475540
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Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace
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Peter Pan said:

There is the really dirty option to just trim the reaction shot of maul. Its the only shot the blood is in, you could easily shorten it by a second and skip the blood. You would only need to fix the audio afterwards to get rid of mauls grunt when the saber hits him. That could be a little tricky, but not really time consuming. At worst you would have to redo the saber-slashing sound effect and find a clean recording of the score.

Here was my attempt at getting rid of the blood splatter which I included in my episode edits.
https://youtu.be/wFXkYhRAXRc

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#1471550
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Mando EP3: A New Path (A Book of Boba Fett Edit) [RELEASED]
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leftshoe18 said:

How did you handle the end of the Tusken stuff? It doesn’t really have a resolution in the show.

My rough cut has the entire flashback and most of the present day from Episode 1, 2 as a movie. Episodes 5, 6, 7 I am cutting into Mando episodes. I used pieces of Episode 3,4 in both the movie and Mando episodes.

For the film, I still used the Bacta tank as the ‘in and out’ of the flashback segment. When he wakes up from the ENTIRE flashback, Fennic tells him that tributes are lined up. Playing with the idea of including the empty rancor pit, assassination attempt, and mayor subplot. Including the FIRST twins scene to setup a potential Boba Fett Season 2. I’m kinda surprised that there was no reference to the twins after episode 4, almost as if they were forgotten. I am completely cutting the following: the Mods introduction and chase, BK trying to kill Boba, and the second twins scene. We tease the empty Rancor pit earlier, and the final scene of the movie is Boba and his baby Rancor in the pit with the final line, “Don’t worry, he’ll be back” before credits.

For the series, I split Episode 5 into two episodes and included some of the Boba stuff including the completely healed bacta scene. I split the episode right after Peli telling Mando it will go faster if he helps. Then added some Boba, Pike and Cobb stuff. I moved the building and testing of the Naboo fighter to the next episode, and right after Fennic recruits Mando, Boba recruits BK. We also get introduced to the Mods already working for Boba, when the Pikes Land, they are working as scouts and report to Boba.

The goal was to make the Mando episodes completely independent of the Boba backstory, thus making the the Movie a non-required back story. If you want to watch it for the background and setups fine, but not required to watch the Mando episodes.

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#1471494
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Mando EP3: A New Path (A Book of Boba Fett Edit) [RELEASED]
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In my opinion, the Tusken Raider stuff was all from the originally proposed Boba Fett Movie which starts with him crawling out of the Sarlacc. THAT feels like complete story. If not enough for a full movie, just make it a Book of Boba-Fett mini-series.

When they decided to turn it into a TV show, they chose to add elements of the shared universe and they then created the Pike Syndicate plot. The Pike Syndicate plot should be recut and edited into a Mando season 2.5

It feels like two different mediums, half movie, half a forced TV Show. Can’t wait to see the edits.

I did a rough pass on the Tusken Raider stuff and got about 1 hr and 36 minutes out of it.

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#1463327
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The Prequels as Mando style episodes; PM for Links
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EddieDean said:

Question: How are you cutting the end of ROTS? Would the Siege of Mandalore arc naturally interlace with it?

I had not thought about that, but I most definitely will when I polish those episodes. Will be a challenge for sure as Episode 10, the 2nd episode of ROTS, was a struggle to get 25-30 minutes of footage even with the deleted scenes. I had forgotten how ROTS just dragged after rescuing the chancellor until we get to Palpatine revealing himself as the Sith Lord. I had to rearrange quite a bit to make the episode work with some actual substance. Here is my rough episode guide for ROTS.

Episode 9 - Ends with Padme comforting Anakin after the bad dream
Episode 10 - Starts with Yoda and Anakin working through his issues; Middle of episode Obi-Wan leaves for Utapau; Ends with Grevious’s death and Anakin at the Opera.
Episode 11 - Starts with Palpatine revealing himself to Anakin; Ends with Order 66

I like the idea of coordinating our efforts for a seamless watching experience. I may now even consider adding some of the Siege of Mandalore footage to the live action footage, specifically Order 66 stuff. Let’s chat more in PMs.

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#1463134
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The Prequels as Mando style episodes; PM for Links
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Special thanks to:

EddieDean for inspiring me and encouraging me to do this, Hal9000 whose Prequel Edits have been my go to for years now, Bryantmh for his AI upscales of the deleted scenes, and KK650 whose color corrected theatrical cuts served as my starting point. Both the Title cards and credit music I found on Youtube. Title cards created by Valox, and music by Samual Kim.

Larger edits are listed below, but does necessarily include all the small trims and cuts:

Episode 1 - Phantom Menace: Invasion (Minimal Changes)

  • Jar Jar’s yell is gone when he dives into the water.
  • Ric Olei’s face is gone when he says the shield generator has been hit. His delivery/expression always irritated me.
  • The scene of Maul and Palps on the Coruscant balcony didn’t fit my episodic flow, but I didn’t want to leave it out entirely. This is now an end credit scene.

Episode 2 - Phantom Menace: Meeting Anakin (Substantial Changes)

  • The dinner table scene has been edited quite a bit. Most of the dialogue is awful and I didn’t like how Shmi was so against Anakin podracing, “I don’t want you to race, It’s awful. I die every time you do it.” and then suddenly “There is no other way, he was meant to help you.”
  • All references to Anakin building 3PO are gone. Now he is just an acquired droid that Anakin messes around with.
  • Blood test remains and Midichlorians remain for Canon purposes although the scene was trimmed a bit to remove reference to other jedi.
  • virgin birth is gone.
  • pod race is unchanged.

Episode 3 - Phantom Menace: Anakin Goes to Coruscant (Moderate Changes)

  • Incorporated 2 deleted scenes, Anakin fights Greedo and Goodbye to Jira.
  • Qui-Gon and Council edited to remove references to Virgin birth.

Episode 4 - Phantom Menace: Return to Naboo (Moderate Changes)

  • Gone is the Maul blood splatter when Obi-Wan slices him. Edited a few frames to speed up Obi-Wan’s leap over Maul. Small adjustment, big impact in my opinion.
  • Anakin in space battle, the usual cuts and some new cuts. Left in some of the common cuts, and cut out some other pilot commentary. Altered Anakin’s triumphant escape and “Woos!” from the exploding federation ship. Just one “Woo” now.
  • Cut the celebration

Episode 5 - Attack of the Clones: Assassination Attempt (MASSIVE changes)

I am REALLY proud of this edit. These edits are 10 years in the making back when I first started messing around with AOTC. I believe the biggest problem with AOTC, and the prequels in general, is that we MUST believe that Anakin and Padme are in love if SHE is the reason he falls to the darkside, but after we meet teenage Anakin for the first time, WE have trouble liking him because of bad dialogue and his introduction. There is no possible way to believe that Padme would fall in love with him.

Biggest Changes:

  • New Intro to Anakin, Jedi in action as opposed to being lectured by Obi-Wan on the couch
  • Only one assassination attempt on the landing platform. Gone is the poisonous space slugs and speeder chase through the sky which was too long with bad dialogue/development.
  • Deleted scenes added include Padme addresses the senate, Obi-Wan dart Analysis, and most of Anakin and Padme on Naboo.
  • New edit implies that Anakin and Padme have seen each other on various occasions and have been friends since Phantom Menace, leading us to believe that their romantic feelings developed over time instead of just in this one movie.
  • Almost every scene has been moved, removed, or altered to improve the dialogue, character development, and flow. Was able to get Anakin and Padme off Coruscant in less than 15 minutes.

If you are quite familiar with AOTC, many of these changes may be jarring on first viewing, but FOR ME, this works better than I could have imagined and I hope it works for all of you as well. Give it a 2nd or 3rd watch if the rearranged scenes take you out of it on the 1st viewing. Your mileage may vary…

Episode 6 - Attack of the Clones: Clones and Seperatists (Minimal Changes)

  • Primary edits and trims are during transitions as Obi-Wan scenes now flow one after the other, with no cutting away to Anakin and Padme.
  • Most creative edits in this episode revolve around Obi-wan’s message to Anakin on Tatooine and the Jedi Council on Coruscant. Anakin and Padme have been removed from this message. They will see a replay of the message with instructions from Mace in the next episode.
  • R2-D2 receives the above message and immediately transmits it to Coruscant.

Episode 7 - Attack of the Clones: Rescue Mission (Substantial changes)

  • Episode covers Padme and Anakin on Tatooine and Geonosis. Episode ends after Arena battle with Boba holding his father’s head.
  • Tatooine edits were done to lessen whiney Anakin. Gone is his rant about killing Tusken women and children, but kept Padme comforting him.
  • Mace Windu contacts and updates Anakin on the Obi-Wan situation. No Palps office included in this. We stay on Tatooine with Anakin and Padme’s perspective. Also eliminated Padme’s double magic button press which seems to work everything on the ship. The button is now only used to Track Obi-Wan’s ship.
  • Included Deleted scene with Anakin and Padme face to face with Dooku on Geonosis.
  • Geonosis droid factory and arena battle heavily edited to remove 3PO and R2. Also trimmed a LOT of shots to eliminate bad CGI and pacing issues. Rearranged a few of the battle sequences for what I believe to be a better flow.
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#1463133
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The Prequels as Mando style episodes; PM for Links
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*** NOTE: TPM has minimal changes/cuts and is a relatively straight forward ‘film to episode’ adaptation while AOTC is a dramatically different experience with many never before seen edits and changes. ROTS is somewhere in between. Enjoy!***

ABOUT THIS EDIT:

While I appreciate the characters and story of the prequels, the movies never worked for me for many reasons, especially Attack of the Clones. Even the fanedits out there are unable to ease the pain of AOTC as most of them feel edited and many of the problems still remain.

Inspired by The Mandalorian and EddieDean’s Clone Wars edits, I decided to see if the Prequel movies would work better as a TV Show. EddieDean also encouraged me to start a thread and share these. One of the biggest benefits of the episodic format is that it allows scenes and characters to breathe without feeling rushed (coughRevenge of the Sithcough)

While I have rough edits of each, I have just started to create clean and polished versions. I started with theatrical, color corrected, versions of each film and AI upscales of the deleted scenes. Many of the cuts and trims made, are personal decisions and choices that allow ME to enjoy the content more. Surprisingly, JarJar doesn’t annoy me like he used to and I didn’t cut as much of him as I thought I would, but more specifics will be mentioned below. Also I left in things that many other editors remove, such as Midichlorians, so these episodes will fit with canon material.

For me personally, watching my episodic rough cuts of AOTC was the first time I ever truly enjoyed this content. These edits won’t be for everyone, but perhaps some will enjoy this format as much as I do, thus the reason I decided to share them.

And without further ado, I present…The Prequel Series

Episode 01 (29:54) FINISHED (Version 0.9) Phantom Menace: Invasion
Episode 02 (40:37) FINISHED (Version 0.9) Phantom Menace: Meeting Anakin
Episode 03 (29:53) FINISHED (Version 0.9) Phantom Menace: Anakin Goes to Coruscant
Episode 04 (34:26) FINISHED (Version 0.9) Phantom Menace: Return to Naboo
Episode 05 (35:18) FINISHED (Version 0.9) Attack of the Clones: Assassination Attempt
Episode 06 (30:00) FINISHED (Version 0.9) Attack of the Clones: Clones and Seperatists
Episode 07 (36:10) FINISHED (Version 0.9) Attack of the Clones: Rescue Mission
Episode 08 (21:27) FINISHED (Version 0.9) Attack of the Clones: The Clone Wars Begin
Episode 09 ( – : – ) On Hold Revenge of the Sith: Saving Palpatine
Episode 10 ( – : – ) On Hold Revenge of the Sith: Spying on the Chancellor
Episode 11 ( – : – ) On Hold Revenge of the Sith: Fateful Decisions
Episode 12 ( – : – ) On Hold Revenge of the Sith: Battle of Heroes Part 1
Episode 13 ( – : – ) On Hold Revenge of the Sith: Battle of Heroes Part 2

PM me if you wish to see these. Run times include the credits. Specific changes, credits, and thanks will be listed below. Let me know if you see any rough transitions, sync problems, or other significant issues. I’m leaving room for one more round of revisions prior to finalizing.

This project has currently been put on hold in favor my movie edits due to a lack of interest. Most of the innovative edits used in these episodic episodes, have been recycled for my movie edit. You can find that here:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Prelude-to-War-TPM-AOTC-Combined-NOW-AVAILABLE-WP-1-1/id/95150

If demand is there, perhaps I may finish the Revenge of the Sith episodes, but that movie is enjoyable in its present form. My issues were primarily with TPM and AOTC and I have created content that finally allows me to enjoy those films. Thank you to the forums for encouraging me to try something different.

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#1457516
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Being reported that this will be six 1-hour episodes, so essentially a film trilogy. Can’t wait to see the fan edits of these, turning them into traditional Star Wars films with scrolls. These could be the prequels this OT fan has always wanted to see.

Perhaps someone can take this series and Revenge of the Sith and turn these into new Episodes I, II, and III… In my own head, the first shot of Episode 1 SHOULD have been Anakin in his starfighter from Episode 3. “Your father was already a great pilot…” Revenge of the Sith could benefit from being drawn out over 3 films as it moves a bit quick.

Turn existing episodes 1 and 2 into Mandalorian style episodes for those of us that wish to revisit them from time to time. There is still a lot of good in these films, they are just not great films.

Obviously let’s see this OB1 series first, but the possibilities are exciting…

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#1451438
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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All the more reason to turn these into Mando style episodes. The entire Canto Bight sequence would work as its own episode. Then you can use the deleted/extended Canto Bight sequence to flesh out the episode.

Creating the REASON for this side adventure then becomes the issue. There are a lot of shields in Star Wars… lot of reasons for a code breaker I guess. I personally would skip that episode when viewing all sequel episodes.

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#1451239
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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In my Mandalorian style episodes of the sequel trilogy (forever in progress) I have removed the Death Star part 3 from the Force Awakens. Starkiller base is now just a first order base. No planet sized canon, no destruction of the New Republic. I just couldn’t stomach JJ’s lazy rehash of the Death Star plot. So what do to with that footage…

Enter the re-emergence of Palpatine. Being the creator of the Death Star he has the tech, and canons on the new Star Destroyers (better than Starkiller base in my opinion; at least it’s new) Here is a re-thinking of the Empire being reborn from the beginning of Rise of Skywalker utilizing footage and music from the Force Awakens.

https://mega.nz/file/t8gCmYJA#aKSHMvjg3xpfmtT-R1YIKfnX7FvhQ7xg4DE0kL2Oaw0

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#1450704
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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In my attempt to change Luke from wanting the Jedi to end, he is now is just feeling sorry for himself after failing with the Jedi Academy and and Kylo. He is at first reluctant to train Rey, and he has gone to the island to die alone and miserable, but gone is all talk of the Jedi ending. That version of Luke never worked for me. The biggest challenge I had was wanting to keep the Yoda scene. Here is what I came up with. What do you think?

After Rey and Kylo communicate in the Rain, I may cut to this: https://mega.nz/file/E0AgHb4R#5dvrKMU3fBwY52_LpKsGrtX7dutSqyWBXcZUVtpggxA