Alamo Roadshow was delicately recreated by Koch in Germany from the origunal Laserdisc Master for a 720p Bluray. The Limited Edition Blu-ray appears to already be out of print. Has anybody been able to locate a BD rip this disc? I have found rips of the regular movie disc, but not the roadshow.
Not my edit, but stumbled across this today.
The first three seasons of Moonlighting are some of the best TV ever created (in my opinion) but season’s 4,5 were quite different for a variety of reasons. This attempts to fix that.
I love that they changed the story using silent film elements. I have long said this is the only way to fix the Star Wars prequels. I love TMBTM’s Dusty version, but would love to see someone try the silent film method and completely change the story to better fit the characters and clone wars. I attempted this myself, but never made it very far. Here was a sample video of an AOTC scene I had done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCuUuAQnfhs&feature=youtu.be
I would love to get a link! Thanks.
Would love to see the workprint! Thank you.
Hal 9000 said:
I like the lava ring. Ideally, and this would be way out there for us, the action would be taking place within that circle. But even so, it’s a striking enough visual to plausibly be an establishing shot for an environment.
It just doesn’t look like the Mustafar that has been established in canon.
I say put Kylo forest fight scene where the broom boy scene was in TLJ (after all, he is pissed off about Luke totally faking him out), cut to credits with Kylo holding the Holocron.
Episode 9 begins with kylo seeking and finding Palpatine. Or establish in the Crawl that he has already found him.
I think if Kylo finding Palpatine was moved to the end of Episode 8, then it could mirror TFA with Rey finding Luke, maybe add some little things throughout that help foreshadow Palpatine more. I looked around on the jungle planet after seeing it again, which I’m pretty sure is unnamed because I was listening for it, and in my head it’d take a lot of time to add Naboo elements to tie it with the prequels more considering the type of shots.
100% this. With Snoke being killed in TLJ, you end the movie with Palpatine revealing himself and that he created Snoke. Cliffhanger and and make it feel like a storyline planned from the beginning.
Kylo should also rebuild his helmet at the end of TLJ. Maybe move Rey’s training montage in the jungle to the end of TLJ also.
Then change the crawl in Rise of Skywalker to talk about how Rey found the dagger on a Jedi expedition, the problem with Threepio unable to interpret Sith. I HATED this setup and choice for the McGuffin in Rise Act 1.
We open with the crew finding the programmer and we learn about Poe’s past as the opening act. We first see Kylo in Rise as he goes before the First Order Generals, completely in charge with new helmet already built.
Other big thing that bugged me was how long it took for the rest of the galaxy to show up in the final battle. Poe and his “fleet” would not have lasted that long against that many Star Destroyers or Tie Fighters.
Overall my favorite of the new trilogy but really excited about the edit potential. can’t wait to see the cut scenes!!
This is what I landed on for a crawl that I’m finally happy with:
“The Clone Wars have raged across the galaxy for three years. Under the leadership of the ruthless Count Dooku, thousands of star systems have revolted against the GALACTIC REPUBLIC.
In a stunning move, Dooku has ordered the fiendish droid leader, General Greivous, to sweep into the Republic capital and kidnap Chancellor Palpatine.
As the Separatist Droid Army attempts to flee with their hostage, two JEDI KNIGHTS, guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, lead a desperate mission to rescue the Chancellor…”
I like it. Any thoughts of making this Episode 2, while Rogue One could be Episode 3? Or are you just eliminating the Episode #? I Look forward to seeing the final product.
I definitely re-ordered some scenes. This is actually part of a much larger, and bolder, edit I’m working on for myself which most likely will not to be released as my editing skills are limited and not even close to those of others here. You will notice a few other scenes missing.
I know how much the Cantobight detour bothers others so I wanted to at least offer my thoughts and ideas on the topic. The goals of this particular sequence are as follows:
Eliminate Cantobight completely
Eliminate bad Maz Cameo
Eliminate need for a codebreaker
Shorten the way too long space chase thus shortening the movie
The fact that the rushed plan to hijack the Supremacy ultimately fails, I believe it allows us to move more quickly through these scenes. Again, this idea and attempt would not have been possible without the brilliant
poppasketti Rekindled edit.
The Plan (est 2 minutes)
Finn and Rose (minus Cantobight) (est 11 minutes)
This is the first attempt and I will probably fine tune it to the best of my ability, especially some of the audio transitions.
jrs81 mate - your video has been blocked by Disney on copyright grounds. Doh!
It maybe worth uploading it to vimeo (free, easy and quick to register an account and also use) or a similar site - who don’t seem to suffer anywhere near as many of these take-downs as enforced by youtube?
Good luck with it 😃
I was afraid of that. I thought since it was unlisted, it would be okay.
Frankly, I think cutting Canto Bight and DJ out entirely cripples Finn’s character too much, since he’d basically vanish from the story for a massive stretch of time. I don’t think you can get it down any more than Hal did for Legendary (which poppasketti replicated for Rekindled) without it feeling like a fan edit and not a finished film (much like attempts I’ve seen to remove Jar Jar entirely from TPM or removing the Ewoks entirely from ROTJ).
I actually thought the theatrical film felt like a fan edit. The entire side-plot trip to Cantobight, being stuck in jail, and then the time to return and sneak aboard the Supremacy, just didn’t fit with rest of the narrative in regards to time. It felt shoehorned in and made The Supremacy chase feel like slow motion. Speaking of shoehorned in…that Maz Cameo… ugh
I just downloaded and watched poppasketti’s Last Jedi: Rekindled and he has truly outdone himself. This is a marvelous edit and the SPFX changes/additions he made were top notch. This is my go to version of the Last Jedi. With that being said, I was still bothered by the horrible Maz Cameo, Cantobight trip, and lame codebreaker talk/character. This is simply bad writing by Rian and there is no way around that. Or is there…
I’ve been messing around with the Rekindled edit and I think with his added BB-8 to Finn and Rose’s shuttle escape scene, I think it may be possible.
‘The Plan’ - Setting up the new plan of action without Maz and the need for a codebreaker. Quite simple really. The plan fails so it doesn’t have to be well thought out. The theory behind the new plan? Someone (Poe) has learned about Han and Leia’s little maneuver in The Empire Strikes back. Floating away with the rest of the garbage. The rebels are being pursued with ships being destroyed so debris would be constantly passing by ‘The Supremacy’. Finn and Rose would float in space as debris until they are behind ‘The Supremacy’ and then enter from behind. Billie Lourd’s character even says as much. “It’s nothing. Just debris”
Here are the short scenes edited together. “The Plan”
I had a 20 minute video of just Finn and Rose on ‘The Supremacy’ combined with Poe’s takeover and subsequent hyperspace ram, but I need to re-encode that. I can upload that tomorrow. But I really think it works… Thoughts?
I like this a LOT. This may be the solution I needed to make combining Ep.7 and Ep.8 actually work. Rey can now go directly from Training with Luke to Crait. < <<
Can’t wait to see it!
Well, removing Snoke, I was able to get a combined edit under 3 hours. The Last Jedi down to about 1 hr and 26 minutes and The Force Awakens down to 1 hr and 31 minutes (minus crawl and credits). This is some major cutting going on… Here are the highlights:
No Poe on Jakku
No Treasure Map to Luke
No one is after BB-8, only Poe & Rey
No Paige heroics
No Maz cameo
No code breaker
Cut Snoke completely. Have Kylo be ahead of the First Order (and rename them the New Empire or something) from the start. Have the fact that he trained with Luke be the reason he’s actually powerful and cunning enough to resurrect the Empire. I think that would make the First Order feel more natural and would more directly have the trio more involved since they all know they played a role in not just making Kylo what he is, but also for indirectly causing the Empire to rise again.
I like this a LOT. This may be the solution I needed to make combining Ep.7 and Ep.8 actually work. Rey can now go directly from Training with Luke to Crait.
I think an excellent edit would be to cut out the back stories of Finn and Poe, at least initially. Maybe open the movie with Rey and her life on Jakku and then she runs into BB8 and then eventually Fin. This would add some mystery as to the characters and what is going on. We do not need to know that Fin is a stormtrooper and instead we discover that. This would not be a bad thing. Try and keep the focus completely on Rey and make Poe and Finn solid supporting roles.
That’s a great idea! Perhaps footage of Finn’s betrayal could be played as a flashback while he’s in a coma in TLJ?
I started playing around with an edit where we pan down from the scroll to Finn’s Tie Fighter escaping and crashing. No Poe until we meet him for the attack on Starkiller. My biggest complaint about all of the new films is Poe disappearing from the crash, only to show up later with a poorly written (only option) excuse for how he escaped Jakku. So I am trying to fix this.
Also no codebreaker and no trip to Cantobite in TLJ. Just a failed attempt to board the First Order Ship. They were monitored all along and captured upon their arrival.
This is the one I have been waiting for! Could I get a witness!? I mean a link 😃
While just a rumor at this time, episode 9 could possibly be turned into two movies… If, and that is a BIG if, this happens, what influence could this have on editing?
Merge 7 and 8 into one movie. Yes. Do it. Make both movies better by cutting out all the fat and slapping them together or re-edit them into one movie.
R2 has the map the entire time, start the movie on Jakku. Tell the story from Rey’s perspective. Don’t explain Finn’s background or crashing on Jakku. This would FINALLY get rid of my biggest plot complaint. How and the hell does Poe get off Jakku!?!?!
To be honest, I love the idea of two movies. JJ is probably regretting his backing out of 8, and two movies would give him a chance to have his “trilogy”. This would ALSO give our film editors more material to make a definitive 3 movie Trilogy 😃
Merge Episodes 7,8 eliminating the Episode 7 remake of 4, and eliminate the boring stuff in episode 8. They already merge together perfectly when we meet Luke on the island. My 2 cents.
Jrs81, About your silent PT, will there be color tinting?
Haven’t decided yet if I’m going to be color tinting. Here is a sample.
This is my recent edit of the Anakin/Obi-wan Lavafall. ALWAYS hated animated Anakin’s SUPER jump. I flipped a few scenes which may seem jarring for those very familiar with the fight, but I think it works. I let the long shots and lava flow determine which way I flipped the shot.
Let me know what you guys think!
I’ll definitely consider it, but the editing is sort of tied to the music, y’know? The music determines when I make the cut to a new shot etc.
Totally get it and I appreciate the consideration. I look forward to viewing the whole project!
I had some time today and decided to mock-up the following:
Luke Has A Moment ‘Rescored’ - Take II
- Per MalàStrana’s suggestion on the thread, I used the first part of “Torn Apart” from TFA
- Per jrs81’s suggestion on the thread, the shot of the door is extended
I think it works well. Let me know your thoughts!
That’s good, but I would linger on the door even longer. Almost uncomfortably long. How long would Luke stand there in silence, before falling to his knees?
Honestly, I think Tarantino-esque music is kind of inherent to the idea of the edit. I don’t think it would work without it.
Yeah, and I agree. As I said above, I’m not even sure if it would work. With the editing, the voiceovers, new dialogue, I was simply curious if it could be done and what it would feel like. It doesn’t even necessarily need to be John Williams. Just something orchestral that would fit with the rest of the SAGA. Selections from the Young Indiana Jones Soundtrack would be an interesting choice 😉
Anyhow, just an idea for an alternative track. I am as excited as everyone else for the Tarantino edit!
Snooker, watching the few clips you’ve posted, this is already my favorite Prequel Edit and I can tell it will be my preferred way to watch Episodes I, II, and III.
While I love the modern music as an artful decision and tribute to Tarantino, I was wondering if you had any intention of providing a second audio track, with John Williams music? Not quite sure HOW it would work, but I do miss it. While effective, the modern music is a bit jarring and foreign to Star Wars.
Even if I could enjoy some exclusive John Williams during a nice extended Intermission! I appreciate your efforts and any consideration to my request.
Here is a video I posted years ago which shows what a “silent” film transformation can accomplish. While Obi-Wan is investigating Kamino, young Anakin is stuck with street patrol on the streets of Coruscant. Anakin on street patrol is shown in the clip. In my edit, he is then lectured for his “methods” by the council and later while he and Obi-Wan are in the elevator, they update each other on their adventures.
Since then, I think I made a few small changes and shortened it a bit, but it will give an idea of what I am hoping to accomplish. I am currently replacing my hard drive and moving, but once I get settled in, I intend to start a new thread and post more clips.
Hal 9000 said:
Oh yeah indeed, it’s 5.1. But the clip isn’t complete. It’s part another deleted sequence and part the very beginning of the Luke deleted scene.
Not sure how I did that! Here’s a link to a proper version, and the other post has been fixed:
Love the work you’re doing Hal. This is my first comment on your edit.
I was wondering if you could hang on the door a bit longer? Luke leaving the door and kneeling happens a bit too quickly. Let the music as it moves down a few notes take us to Luke’s position as he kneels down.
Ending II with Anakin turning is a pretty interesting idea. I always wished there was a sequence where we actually saw Anakin, as Darth Vader, killing Jedi. The closest we ever get to that is the security hologram.
I’ve actually been toying with this idea myself. Years ago I started a completely radical silent film, inspired by TMBTM’s silent film version, changing the story, changing dialogue, moving scenes, and so forth. It was the only way I could think of to “fix” the bad acting and bad dialogue. In light of the new films and new edits, My interest in this has returned and I have recently returned to this attempt.
My episode one is ‘Attack of the Clones’ reduced to an hr. My episode II is also an hour and ends with Anakin’s turn.
At the beginning of Episode III, we learn that Palpatine has gone missing, and Anakin has been sent off world. During this time of about 6-8 months (determined by Padme’s pregnancy) Palpatine has been training Anakin in the ways of the Dark Side.
My Episode III begins with Obi-Wan discovering Grevious’s location and Anakin greeting Padme after an extended absence. (lifted from the beginning of ROTS). Anakin has always been creepy in this scene and it is believable that he has now completely turned to the dark side. He proceeds to inform her of all that he has learned and to trust what he is about to do. Order 66 commences, and Anakin proceeds to attack the Jedi Temple.
A rough cut of all three episodes is complete and now I need to create the new story and dialogue cards. Maybe one day it will actually be finished 😃