jarbear

Your reasoning is sound and has good points. But the scene is so awkward and goofy looking. Granted, yes it does raise questions about how she could have survived the explosion without any explanation … but at least for me its the better of two evils.

Granted, IF this is possible, there could be another way that combines some of your thoughts. Granted, these are just ideas on the top of my head without trying it, be it with timing, music, cues, etc.

I would be curious about using your idea of having the old lines playing, maybe with a kind of echo effect or some kind of distortion, specifically regarding your ideas here:

As her eyes close on the bridge, have the line from Return of the Jedi faintly play “You have a power I don’t understand” explosion occurs,
“and could never have.” Leia is floating in space.
“You’re wrong leia.” Leia opens her eyes.
“You have that power too.” Shot of leia’s hand.

The rest of it is tricky. Pretty much remove ALL the flying part of the scene with some shots that take up time that ends the scene with her hand on the glass window of the door that then opens up. You know she uses the Force to survive but we don’t see how. For those who do not have a problem with the visual of her flying in space … hats off to you for it not bothering you. But for me, and many others … it’s just so odd and very Un-Star Wars. So goofy…

ChainsawAsh said:

I’m fine with it, but it seems a little odd for a battle droid to be on Tatooine. Maybe a different prequel-era droid? One that was seen in TPM or AOTC on Tatooine, like a pit droid or something?

I know what you mean regarding battle droids not being on Tatooine in the PT.

But an easter egg is an easter egg, I would love it back.

adywan said:

Look Who’s back… (W.I.P.)

Looking good!

ekmek.E said:

DERPFAKES is on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANXucrz7Hjs

Wow, that was very impressive to watch. What people can do…

Hal, I am looking forward to V3, your V2 is amazing! I appreciate you are further polishing the film!

If I could give you guidance I would! I am not that technical. I really hope someone has the answer or is willing to help!

I am very curious and excited to see the final product! Cheers!

Very exciting! I will be waiting patiently!

Hey man, thank you for sending me the work print. Here is my overall response to it: WOW!

Below are spoilers of his edits. So if you have not watched it and want to watch it yourself … do not read!

First of all, we gotta give Hal props for his “base” edit since many of his decisions and edits already improved on the original film greatly.

Your FX works, as I have commented before, are fantastic. You greatly improved on the Crait scene with Finn, Rose, etc. I could not imagine doing anything better.

Also … I am happy you have “turned to the light side” by removing the Leia Walk scene. THANK YOU! Again, I have stated on this thread, and as well as others, I don’t mind Leia having strong Force moments … the scene was just goofy looking to me.

Also, as an “overall” comment on the whole movie, I greatly appreciate your overall trimming of scenes. You kept the essence of the movie, along with using Hal’s edit as a base, to keep the movie’s feel strong … but removed the “fat.”

As a PERSONAL preference. (again, I stress personal) I do prefer Hal’s edit of the “Poe and Hux SNL skit” being bit more trimmed. You did trim it, which is MUCH better then the original movie edit … I think I just like it a bit more trimmed in Hal’s.

Lastly, I also prefer removing Snoke berating Hux. Once again, I appreciate you trimmed it a bit, which again improved on the original movie’s scene. But I PERSONALLY prefer Hal’s removal of it. Mostly since I don’t see Snoke cubically berating his generals in front of their “underlings,” especially since in TFA he did not care that Starkiller base was destroyed …

Anyway, again, overall: wow. I like this a whole lot and you made some GREAT decisions that I like. It is a great blend between Hal’s and your own ideas. Again, there are only two scenes I would PERSONALLY change, but again, they were not “bad decisions.”

I look forward to your blu ray edition. Granted, I may revert those two scenes with Hal’s as I mentioned. 😉

I do like the added scenes and the coloring has been improved. Admittedly, I think we would need to wait for the original editor to finish his project since the background still needs some finishing. Well, along with some of the effects need some more polishing too … but mainly the background sticks out the most to me.

Then again I have these ridiculous meticulous eyes that catch every bit of detail.

One of … well many … complaints was how the overall color/light was very dark. I approve of your correction!

ChainsawAsh said:

RogueLeader said:

The scene of Han as a TIE pilot in-training is very interesting to me, and I’m sort of on the fence if it should be included in any future edits.

On one hand, we never really see Han being a great “ship” pilot until his first job, so it is kind of weird how much of a great pilot he thinks he is when we’ve only seen him drive landspeeders.

By including that scene, we get a glimpse of how Han began learning to become an actual pilot.

On the other hand, the jump cut of the officer saying “You’ll be flying in no time!” to him panicking in the trenches is fantastic. And I’m sure they considered cutting in the first place for pacing reasons.

Actually, the deleted scene ends with the same “flying in no time” gag.

I think it (well, the salvageable bits of it) would be a great scene to include of you’re going with the idea mentioned earlier in this thread of cutting from “What’s your name?” to the title card, then pick back up with Han’s tribubal. This lets you cut the “Han…Solo” bit while retaining a version of the “You’ll be flying in no time” gag, and get to see that Han has actually trained as a pilot at some point.

That’s exactly what I was thinking on using the deleted scene that way with the title card. That could work very well.

I believe this is the creator of the “extra” footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOPXhFensg

His goal is to “complete” it this Decemeber.

As for your edit, you made some good choices and I do agree that the coloring will need to be corrected. Maybe the “completed” video rendering will match the colors better as well as fill in some gaps, mainly the background.

Moving takes up a large amount of time. Completely understandable. I am looking forward to the 5.1 mix … I really like the edit.

My goodness … what is wrong with this person?

That horn sold me. Thank you! This is fantastic.

adywan said:

I see the f**ker has made another account using my bloody real name this time. Suck a sad little person who can only get attention by impersonating someone else.

EDIT: The user TheRealAdywan, that just posted there, is actually me this time. I created an account solely to confront this guy, but it’s highly doubtful that i will be contributing much.

That will hopefully fix the situation on your part … you don’t have to keep up to date with it, just linking it to this forum’s page.

Would moving around any of the “slow-mo” shots of the others in the same room as Leia work for that? I need to rewatch the whole sequence a few times to remember each clip … I do recall there were a variety of the others reacting to the destruction.

I do like that better, the pacing is better.

Here is a question for eveyone as well … should there be some kind of music in the background instead of the silence? Kind of gloom and doom subtle music? In some ways too it almost seems anti climatic since it’s so quiet … unless that just me!

I do see what you mean about the feeling of the moment, I think it “drags on” when you see the troops and Poe “exit” the trench. It does take away the suspense. However, the suspense and urgency is there when Poe does jump in and tell everyone to move. That’s where that scene needs to end. It can be a natural transition when he looks over the trench … that when it cuts to the blast.

NeverarGreat said:

jarbear said:

NeverarGreat said:

It’s really shaping up nicely.

I don’t know if you’ve already done a version like this, but would it work better if we don’t see the bit where Poe slides into the trench? Maybe just keep the beginning of the shot where Finn’s speeder slides across the ground, then cut right to the blast traveling down the beam to keep Finn’s wreck and the blast in the same emotional moment.

That would be a hard transition. When the Ram fires, the downed ship has completely stopped, there needs to be a scene to “fill the gap” between the crash and the firing.

I’ve watched that section a few times, and even before the camera zooms out to Poe, the speeder is still moving a bit. It would feel odd even if you time it right before the zoom out to the blast … it will feel off.

I’d have to see it in practice, but even cutting after Poe’s speeder hits the trench (before Poe says ‘Go, go quick!’) might keep the two moments connected. It might also be a music thing - in the original, there was a stretch without music where Finn runs to Rose and they have a conversation, but here there’s an inexplicable lack of music for only a brief moment before starting up again. Perhaps to bridge this musical gap, cut straight from Finn’s ship getting knocked out of the way to a flipped shot of Rose’s downed speeder with Rose unconscious and the blast traveling down the beam.

Something like that can work, we do need to have that transition of Poe before the weapon fires for timing.

I think you cut to the weapon fire after Poe tells the troops to go and he looks over the trench. Right then cut to the weapon firing. I think it may be good too for the “pulse” to maybe have some kind of Sound FX maybe? Doens’t have to be much, but if possible a sound that may mimic a pulse from high to low sound may add to it.

NeverarGreat said:

It’s really shaping up nicely.

I don’t know if you’ve already done a version like this, but would it work better if we don’t see the bit where Poe slides into the trench? Maybe just keep the beginning of the shot where Finn’s speeder slides across the ground, then cut right to the blast traveling down the beam to keep Finn’s wreck and the blast in the same emotional moment.

That would be a hard transition. When the Ram fires, the downed ship has completely stopped, there needs to be a scene to “fill the gap” between the crash and the firing.

I’ve watched that section a few times, and even before the camera zooms out to Poe, the speeder is still moving a bit. It would feel odd even if you time it right before the zoom out to the blast … it will feel off.

poppasketti said:

Good suggestions! I decided to actually just remove the shuttle from the existing shot. This fixes the geography issue and also makes it a unique shot (as opposed to duplicated and scaled in). The Version 2B link has been updated:

https://vimeo.com/288986920 (PW: fanedit)

Wow, just wow! I am really liking this a whole lot. Your FX work is really making this work quite smoothly.

It is better this way then the scene of him finding Rose since there is no way to make enough footage for time with him finding her. This way, it is happening behind scenes AND explains why he is dragging her into base later.

I dig this. Alot.

Oh dear, I get sea sick … I will apologize in advanced …

Must have this edit…

Im in the same boat as you Mala!

L3 and other droid scenes need to be trimmed for sure. The whole Droid Rebellion needs some trimming … it got goofy very quickly.