With the Leia lines … they still really stick out. I like the idea, don’t get me wrong. It would be great to even add one line … but its gotta be seamless which may or may not be possible also due to her tone, it doesn’t really match the scene/mood.
That’s just the way the deepfakes work, if the face is obscured or at an odd angle then it won’t be detected. The system won’t have enough data to construct a deepfake to put on top of it. In the clips I put together I used fade-ins to hide the shift into the deepfake.
Ah gotcha, after I sent that I assumed that was the case. So what I did with those scenes, is used bits of your scenes which you masked the crud out of it and crossfaded that during head movements/Tarket from unfocused camera spots to hide it. It actually worked pretty decently to incorporate it all.
Hey there Shamook, I notice there is a glitch with the Tarkin moments. He goes from his 3d face/head to his newly Deepfake ones suddenly. If you take a look at the first Tarkin file, you’ll see the jump for example.
One more.
Man, both of those made me laugh so hard! hahahah!
^ Same thought on the double line, but I like it a lot.
Again, it’s about the execution of it which is weak and muddled. Best to have it removed. We see his force sensitivity abundantly at the end-ish part of the movie AND have the set up/hint from Hal’s and Poppa’s TLJ edit.
If we’re throwing in things to consider that the community might be able to help with (ideas that have been thrown around before here and elsewhere)…
- Add a line for Leia after saying “no” to Rey going on the mission. Something like “You’re not ready.” Scene feels a little awkward.
- Add Finn saying to Jannah “We all have to fight” so it seems like he had some influence on her decision to join the resistance (paying forward his TLJ arc).
- Change Luke’s line to “Leia sensed the BIRTH of her son,” which seems more fitting.
- Give Rey a different outfit in the final scene, either all black or grey, or partially black or grey.
- Recolor the saber burial cloth to be black and add a hole so it appears to be Ben’s sweater, so she’s burying things that belong to all three ghosts.
100% down with these additions, especially the last two.
Same here, those would be nice additions if doable.
Also … my comment on the whole Finn “has something to say” conversation … No. You know it was badly executed when the Director of the movie had to tweet the explanation on it. Regardless of the reasoning of it, or what it represents, it’s execution is poor and is way muddled up. It would have been better, if JJ wanted the whole “I need to tell you something” concept on Finn’s part to Rey would have been better if he kept getting interrupted.
However, it was portrayed as: We are all about to die and my last dying breath is: I think I am force sensitive! And when they are alive, he is still “ashamed” or “unwilling” to talk to her about it. Terrible.
THat’s like you and your friends are about to die from a plane crash and before you hit the mountain someone says “I’ve always wanted to tell you JOHN DOE that I think I can bowl a perfect game!”
The issue is it was more portrayed like “I have feelings for you and am ashamed to tell you” then anything else. So again, it’s about the execution of it that makes it bad. If it was handled differently, and more clearly, then yeah, it would have been fine.
You know when something isn’t handed correctly or isn’t clear to the audience is when you have to tweet about it.
hehehe. I’ll see if I can make it more goldy when I get a chance, but it may depend on what works best across all of the shots. I think it’s also okay if it’s more yellow anyway?
That works for me, whatever works for each shot and it does look different.
I still think there should be a bumper sticker: #HateSandLikeGrandDad
Burbin and Poppa are rocking it!
Nice work you two!
If I was Supreme Leader of the galaxy I would definitely have several rides. It would be like the richest person in the world only driving one car around.
I suppose it would be cool to make this second one look unique, but even if we can’t get it right it’s really not that big of a deal. Maybe Kylo just really likes that color scheme so he does the same one on all of his ships.
Not just several rides, but loaded ones.
They see me flyin, they hatin’
If it’s just the scene where Rey steals it than it’s two shots. The absolute easiest thing to do I think is remove the red coloring around the center. That may not be enough though since it would just look like the shot is a bit desaturated (which it already is). Changing it from red to something else like gold may be doable. I think changing the “wings” is the hardest because you’d really have to lock in the motion tracking to each piece.
I’m sorry I haven’t been able to help much lately. Hal, if you wouldn’t mind sending me those two shots of Rey stealing the tie, I could take a look at it. I don’t know when I’d be able to get to it though.
That would be great and good to know! You go Poppa!
Wow … Thanks Shamook!
Also view your preview Burbin, wow, lot more detail with this new source … must reimplement now! hahaha!
Other idea in connection with both the removal of the cockpit explosion AND Nev’s burning TIE in the dark (hides even more details about it) …
What if one was able to change the color/look of the “wings” of the TIE at the DSII when Rey takes it. (it’s a short scene) Instead of having that white color to the “foils” (whatever you call it) it’s the same color as the rest of the metal … so it’s like pre-painted? Even some lines around the parts that were cut off and fell off kinda shows some welding was done? The color will be the more important visual thing.
This can at least help connect some dots or at least remove the kinda blaring plot hole?
I know you can’t remove them all … but at least it’s something? (plot holes/continuity errors)
Lightsaber been repaired and looks different.
The falcon has different radar dishes.
Etc., etc.
Man … I wish I knew how and had the resources to try to do these things. Lol.
Totally joking Creation, ROTJ certainly has its flaws and I get what you say.
So we need someone to do something else that didn’t seem possible. WE NEED ANOTHER JONH … BUT FOR THE TIE STUFF!
hahaha. Amazing stuff.
I do agree with sentiment on peoples part. My wish is for this movie to be tolerable, to be honest. There is NO WAY to make this a satisfying and good movie, let alone a “conclusion” of the Saga with its terrible writing, let alone a disjointed trilogy. But with edits like Hal’s, and others contributions, it can at least be mindless entertainment. (Just my personal view, for those who are happy or enjoy them more, please do so! AKA I’ll just view them as an alternate reality. LOL)
Back to the TIE, man, if it is possible to make it a little different … would be great. Even if it is slight coloring difference.
At the same time, with Hal’s removal of the cockpit exploding … could the TIE at the DSII look VISIBLY repaired … kinda like the Skywalker Saber? I doubt it since it isn’t a close up is quick … not sure. Just throwing ideas out.
EDIT: Throw stones at Creation! Throw them now! 😛
Nah, he’d bring back Snoke to be behind it all again and then have him trip and hit his head and die. Roll credits
I was seriously about to type something like that! Wow!
We could make the TIE on Pasana the same TIE from TLJ? (of course non of us are miracle workers)
I’m surprised JJ didn’t do that to Johnsons’s TIE in this movie since those two enjoy destroying each other’s creations in these movies. Lol.
lol
And I am not holding my breath for any more material to work with here. If we ever do get any, great, but I am doubtful.
EDIT: Maybe add a bumper sticker?
In all seriousness, if anyone does want to visually augment the Pasaana TIE in a way that isn’t detrimental, be my guest. I don’t ask for it but I’d be open to including it.
Bumperstick: #hatesand#granddad
EDIT: For coloring idea, if it is easy, what about darkening the foils, on the inside, like a dark grey or something that matches the rest of the TIE? Or even red? Looking at the “Rey does a flip” is the best view of the TIE and would be the best “visual” look at the TIE and can differentiate it from the other.
Oh, boy, what an idea. lol, this is the level we have reached circling this movie over and over.
Makes perfect sense to say, “Prepare my ship.” Kylo does this in TLJ as well, and perhaps more times that I can’t recall. It’d probably be doable to change the line to “prepare a ship,” but it might sound too weird to be worth it.
“Prepare one of my many ships!”
“Prepare My No. 2!”
(Officers giggle)
JEDIT: If I had the skill, it would be neat to change part of the color scheme on the TIE to make it different if it sounds weird to change/alter his line. Just something to soothe the audience mind. Even if its like Red & Black.
Could some audio work be done with Kylo responding to the FO officer identifying the necklace with something like "prepare a Tie/Whisper/Ship? something to help the audience see that the TIE he was in had the Wayfinder in it?
Also looking at the design, what if some of the red paint is replaced with another color, or partially replaced, with gold or something for his “supreme leader” status or something. Color doesn’t matter, but if it is a different color between the two we see … it would be better?
If something can be done to maybe make a distinction would help fill up that hole.
Hey one thing I thought of, which may or may not be necessary/be too much work … but would it help if a creative VFX to add a paint scheme or something to one of the TIES to at least make them visually different if a person pays attention?
It kind of makes me think on one of those ROTJ threads to add stripes to Palp’s shuttle to make it different.
It doesn’t have to be drastic, but maybe even something to really “help” separate the TIES.
Heck, if there is time or a scene with some audio magic to have Kylo say “Fuel my other ship” or something when they identify the beads? That isn’t necessary, but even something to help the audience have a visually/audible confirmation those ships were clearly different and not a “whoops, plot hole.”
Yeah either way we’ve already made it much more believable by removing the TIE completely exploding. Flames don’t seem to affect the wayfinder, but I doubt it could withstand an explosion.
I still remember watching the movie opening night and having people gasp at that moment because they thought that Kylo literally just freaking died. Lmao.
Yeah … the whole thing was … bad when you think about it. Another “fake out death” and later a most-likely-plot hole.
If JJ still wanted/must have some kind of Jedi vs. Vehicle confrontation like it between those two, heck having Kylo on a speeder trying to run her down would have been better. Heck, it could have been a bit of a call back to ROTJ with Luke and the Speeder bikes. Lol.
To be fair, the whole thing is an error, regardless of rationalizing it … but, can be overlooked since there isn’t much one can do.
Although it was a visually interesting thing with the TIE vs Rey, it would have been better if it wasn’t that to avoid the plot hole on JJ’s part. So many overlooked things in this movie. Oye.
Here’s what I intend as the final look and ordering of the Ach-To sequence. I tried to add a very subtle purple to the sunrise. (Any footage before or after the sequence is not color corrected in this clip, nor is the saber flashback.)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16kfx-ovM2HjYCqiexhK76qnAAIuq-guZ/view?usp=drivesdk
Looks really nice there Hal, looking good!
And now that I’ve been able to actually take a look at the scene where Rey goes to get the, ahem, SACRED JEDI TEXTS during the Palpatine speech sequence, you’d really have to zoom way into it to be able to remove the saber. It’s just a little continuity error. There are hundreds in SW, so I’m not going to fret about it.
Got the best idea: whoever you see the books, add in Luke saying “Sacred texts!”
Genius I am, yes.
