I’m trying to get my hands on a high quality version of the TLJ deleted shots of Kylo Ren standing on the bridge of a destroyer. If anyone has that, a PM would be appreciated!
Me too !
I think “the source of his masters power” is good enough.
Agreed, we’ll have to see how all options work in action to really decide.
I think it would be fine, Mustafar in rogue one is quite calm and cool compared to the hot mess it was in EP3, also you can just assume Kylo is far from the the castle in a different region with a different environment.
DominicCobb said:
Personally I don’t really mind that it doesn’t look like Mustafar, just because it’s not mentioned at all, so it almost doesn’t matter. I keep trying to think of a way to just start the movie with Kylo on the bridge of a star destroyer (from the TLJ deleted scenes), then someone says off camera his ship is ready, then we see his TIE flying to Vader’s castle (using RO footage). My problem is, besides the tough VFX work, what happens once he gets there? Ideally you’d just have him go in and take the wayfinder, but when he gets the wayfinder in TROS he’s outside and all dirty and shit, so that footage wouldn’t work.
You can have Kylo’s Tie fly by Vaders’ castle and then cut to him slaughtering the settlers.
I guess the bottom line is getting him on tattoine somehow.
Any ideas on how to keep Ben alive?
“as I once fell, so will the last Skywalker” is depressingly anticlimactic considering the title of the film.
Another nice idea. I was planning on having some of the Exegol scenes moved later but in flashback. But having a race of both sides to Exegol is interesting. You can still have some kind of Kijimi revelations because Kylo is in communication with Palpatine. He just hasn’t physically been to Exegol to man and retrieve the fleet.
By kijimi revelations I meant Kylo revealing that Rey is a palpatine, which wouldn’t work since in this restructure he has yet to find Palpatine.
Alternatively If you wanted to go the Rey Palpatine route you can have Kylo find Exogol before he appears on Kijimi.
Stumbled upon this video on youtube https://youtu.be/757-FOQU41M and although its poorly executed, it’s an interesting concept that could be worth pursuing.
“The search for exogol” really ruined the tension in the film for me and made it quite boring to watch since we already saw what they were searching for at the very beginning- Exogol, palpatines and his fleet- so there was no room left for tension, surprise and mystery.
I would propose somewhat of a radical reconstruction of the film where Rey and Kylo are both racing to find the wayfinders with Kylo beating her to the chase and finding exogol before the deathstar sequence(only possible in a Rey nobody edit to avoid the revelations on kijjimi).
Set up the stakes in the opening with a montage of palpatine’s broadcast, use the cut kylo bridge scene from TLJ https://youtu.be/tOk-ado_fLA perhaps with the destroyer hovering above coruscant/night ala what Snooker did https://i.imgur.com/OasRBRj.png, intercut with planets around the galaxy hearing the transmition https://youtu.be/QSI6Cn6GkK0 https://youtu.be/Slsj4YeYaYQ, the resistance would soon find out from Boolio that Kylo has begun the search for a Sith Wayfinder to get to exogol, and so the race would begin.
For those looking for an extended version of the duel of the fates from the TV spot
https://youtu.be/V-O7HXXHcBs
More subtle, sombre version of duel of the fates from Solo: a star wars story.
https://youtu.be/V-O7HXXHcBs
Not scrapped, but not committed either. If I had free time I probably would.
Here’s another take on a crawl:
Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKERThe iron grip of the FIRST ORDER has spread to the farthest reaches of the galaxy. To suffocate the spark of rebellion, all communication between neighboring systems has been silenced.
As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training under the ailing General Leia Organa, the fledging Resistance gathers intel to forge a path to freedom.
Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren searches relentlessly for his grandfather’s SITH WAYFINDER, to unlock the secrets of his former master’s power…
Love it, although I do prefer the idea of starting the film with Kylo navigating his way through the nebula.
"Meanwhile Supreme Leader Kylo Ren after a galaxy wide conquest has finally obtained his grandfathers SITH WAYFINDER, the key that will forge the path to the source of his former Master’s power, beyond the unknown regions of space…
https://youtu.be/XIVTTXmhz_E
Goodness something needs to be done about the overkill lightning affects on Exogol, they’re so disorienting that it makes it unwatchable.
Blue filter needs to go as well.
“Begun the edits have”
Hux and Pryde on Mustafar:
https://i.redd.it/c96a861zkim41.jpg
Because his midichlorian points are OVER 9 THOUSAND.
He is Space Jesus after all 😉
I see where you’re coming from and it plays well with “the jedi of the past” thing, but looking at it from a lore and canon perspective, it doesn’t make much sense to have Jedi other than Luke, Qui Gon, Anakin, Obi-wan, Yoda and (possibly Leia) communicate from the netherworld of the force without having discovered that knowledge.
Why not? First of all, Anakin died without having learned that power, and yet he can still become a ghost. More importantly, it shouldn’t be a struggle for Rey to speak to the ghosts, no? And yet it’s something that takes practice and training. The way I interpreted it, the challenge of hearing the voices of the Jedi that came before is hearing not just the ghosts, but everyone.
Anakin kinda get’s a pass though since he is the Chosen One, in “the Rise and Fall of Darth Vader” novel, Obi Wan reached out to Anakin when his consciousness was between the physical realm and the netherworld and taught him “one final lesson”
I think this explanation relies a little too much on “extra curricular” material.
I’d say most people presume Anakin ascended to becoming a force ghost due to his chosen one status so it probably doesn’t need much explanation from extra material…although it’s nice to have that sometimes.
Maybe the reason the other Force ghosts haven’t chimed in throughout the saga when it would’ve been convenient is because Anakin and the other Force ghosts have been helping long dead Jedi regain consciousness within the netherworld of the Force.
I like that idea although it might rely a little too much on “extra curricular” material.
I see where you’re coming from and it plays well with “the jedi of the past” thing, but looking at it from a lore and canon perspective, it doesn’t make much sense to have Jedi other than Luke, Qui Gon, Anakin, Obi-wan, Yoda and (possibly Leia) communicate from the netherworld of the force without having discovered that knowledge.
Why not? First of all, Anakin died without having learned that power, and yet he can still become a ghost. More importantly, it shouldn’t be a struggle for Rey to speak to the ghosts, no? And yet it’s something that takes practice and training. The way I interpreted it, the challenge of hearing the voices of the Jedi that came before is hearing not just the ghosts, but everyone.
Anakin kinda get’s a pass though since he is the Chosen One, in “the Rise and Fall of Darth Vader” novel, Obi Wan reached out to Anakin when his consciousness was between the physical realm and the netherworld and taught him “one final lesson”
I see where you’re coming from and it plays well with “the jedi of the past” thing, but looking at it from a lore and canon perspective, it doesn’t make much sense to have Jedi other than Luke, Qui Gon, Anakin, Obi-wan, Yoda and (possibly Leia) communicate from the netherworld of the force without having discovered that knowledge.
Yeah I would prefer if Kanan, ayla secura and ashoka get cut and just keep the legacy characters.
That looks great but I think rotoscoping the Falcon flying over the sand crawlers on tatooine into the Endor shot might look better.
https://youtu.be/-vRa6FBB7hk
From this behind the scenes footage of Luke and Leia’s training sequence it looks like the scene was a lot more fleshed out and elaborate hopefully the whole scene gets released… or ‘goes missing’.
RogueLeader said:
I think it would be cool to get an Old Republic story where we see opposing Jedi philosophies come to a head, not in a violent way, but where we see Jedi debate on the nature of the Force and the dark side. Maybe some Jedi see the dark side as an evil that needs to be purged, where others see it as an aspect of all life that needs to be understood.That would be great to watch, they can probably pull inspiration from early church history with their theological and doctrinal difference, councils etc .
Too complex and cerebral. People just want white hats and black hats whacking colour-coded glow sticks together.
FTFY (Fixed That For You)
What?
Why?
Stop?
pls.
