idir_hh

jonh said:
in all the shots?

Yeah that would be great.

!!! I’m speachless.
Could you do two versions, one that’s subtle like this and another that’s stronger, more apparent?

It’s a beautiful way to rap it up. I’ sure JW scored something original for the end which is why it baffles me that they would just reuse the one from the force awakens.

“Im looking forward to this”

Loving the changes man, when do you think you could pump out a workprint?

Operation Rogue One anyone?

Lesser said:

I’ve thought it would be rather interesting to find lines that Palpatine shares with Snoke and kind of have them bleed into each other every once in a while, since Palpatine is a literal puppeteer for Snoke. Since he’s in such a weak state it would make sense that he can’t maintain the Snoke voice all the time.

That’s such a good idea, hearing Palpatine echo Snoke’s dialogue is pretty doable and would tie the films together seamlessly.

So in this hypothetical version, Palpatine is dying, all this time he has been grooming Kylo and Rey, a prophesiced Dyad, to inherit the throne after his death. Palps gives the rundown to Kylo but he knows that there has to be a catch, he plays along but plans to kill him together with Rey. I think the dynamic between Kylo and Palps has to change, Palps will play the act of a weak, harmless old man, like the good old days with Anakin. Make Kylo less hostile, rather more intrigued. I’m working on a mockup that will go something like this:

• At last! My boy.
• Snoke trained you well.
• I killed Snoke.
• I made Snoke. I have been the voice inside your head.
• The first Order was just the beginning, I will give you so much more.
• You’ll die first.
• I have died before, now I don’t have long, I’m weak - more than a clone, less than a man.
• What could you give me ?
• Everything - a new Empire, the might of the final order will soon be ready, It will be yours if you do what I ask.
• Become what your grand father Vader could not! Find the girl, Turn her and bring her before me. Together you will rule the galaxy as emperor and empress. Two that become one. A dyad of the dark-side of the force.
• Who is she ?
• Our blood. (just my crazy headcanon)

krausfadr said:

What music would you add to the end as the snake is leaving?

The music that’s currently in the scene when the snake decides the leave the crew has a kind of heroic good guy feel to it, I don’t have anything specific in my mind but you need something that is darker that would evoke fear and urgency.

In theory it’s a good idea, the execution needs a little more work though, I think a change in the music is needed as well as losing some of the flashes, also the snake turning its eyes blue probably gives the wrong message, maybe you could turn them bright red as if in submission to her dark presence.

When the dyad show up you could have Palpatine say “Your coming together will be your undoing” from the trailer and have him immediately suck the life out of them, springing the trap he set up at the start of the film.

I agree, whatever serves the story!

Looks promising! I’m intrigued to see where you’re going with this.

Hal 9000 said:
My idea was to imply that tracking Snoke’s miscellaneous stuff would lead him to Palpatine, like following a marionette’s strings to its animator.

It’s a great idea and I really wish they had a prolonged prologue montage of Kylo doing some detective work, searching ancient temples across the galaxy.
Bummer.

poppasketti said:
idir_hh, I recorded with a Yeti Pro into Adobe Audition, pitched it down, and then added a couple distortion effects to it. In premiere, I also added a couple sounds from other helmeted Kylo dialogue to texturize it a little.

Thanks a lot.

I think Kylo searching for his master’s power kinda makes Palpatine’s entrance coincidental, like Kylo just happens to stumble upon Palpatine and that coincidentally initiates the plot. I think it would be better to establish in the crawl that he has been hearing whispers from the beyond, summoning him. That way Palpatine is directly involved with drawing in Kylo.

Even worse, its actually “goals”.

poppasketti said:

Loving the progress on the force ghosts, and that Anakin morphing work is wild.

Hal 9000 said:

• Some sound clip or soundalike of masked Kylo Ren saying, “You were right” to replace “I never lied to you” before going on to say, “Your parents were no one.”

I tried my hand at recording my own voice and processing it to sound like a helmeted Kylo-Ren to try and tackle this one. Let me know what you think:

https://vimeo.com/409663975
PW: fanedit

The sound is pretty seamless, Can I ask what you recorded this on and what kinda software you used?

jonh said:

Hal 9000 said:

That’s some very nice work. However, I think the only way I would actually want to use it as if it is so subtle that it’s almost hard to notice on the first viewing.

??? jedi ghosts v4…with anakin
https://vimeo.com/409718237
password:jedi

That looks very good! Though I’m not too keen on reusing the shots of the ghosts from the Endor celebration.

Reylo is probably a case of either going all in or nothing at all.

Perhaps it could be done by sprinkling the forbidden love motif in their previous encounters.

The scene on its own is pretty good, Lovy dovy is of course an exaggeration but the music makes the scene unmistakably romantic, I think a scene like this needs to be built up with romance in mind instead of empathy throughout TFA and first half of TLJ.

In isolation the scene works well with the music, I just think it would feel pretty creepy, if not disturbing to have them be all lovy dovy just after Kylo’s cold blooded "let the past die, kill it if you have to (in reference to his own father). I think there needs to be a preceding scene that would better set that up.

Ed Slushie said:
Not sure how that could be made clear with audio splicing, though.

Replace I made “Snoke” with “her”, When talking about Snoke you could say, “I am Snoke” or “I trained Snoke”, depending on your headcanon.
-“her” is from “kill her” later on in the film.
-“trained” is from “Snoke trained you well”
Otherwise ROTS is an encyclopedia of Palpatine dialogue lol.

For those going the Rey Palpatine route, what do you think of setting that up at the get go? I believe that’s the way it was intended in original script and it would spare us the tacked on reveal above kijimmi. When Kylo asks Palps “who is she”, he could reply with a cryptic “Our blood” or “One of Us” , which may or may not hint at palps creating
Anakin skywalker and would give more credibility to Rey Palpatine taking the skywalker name.

Edit: For the Rey nobody angle I think it’s important to expand upon the reason Palpatine wanted her on exagol, her significance to the overall story and most prudently the reason for her innate darkness. I think this should also be covered at the get go, here are a few options, although there are many ways to go about this:
“Who is she?”
-“a vergence, destined to be sith”
-“a wound in the force, destined to be sith”
-“an awakening in the force, unseen for generations, destined to rule.”

That’s probably the best one yet.
You could use shots from the deleted hall way scene in Rots with Anakin, obiwan and shak tii.