idir_hh

I think the only 2 ways the broadcast could fit would be to either put it after Palpatine declares that the final order has begun or in the first act when the resistance is huddled together to listen to the message received by Finn and Co.
Something like this: https://vimeo.com/404134108

After hearing the message the scene could go on as normal with “somehow Palpatine returned”.

Here are my thoughts on the small portion of the live stream that I had the chance to watch. (Passana chase to Rey landing on Exogol)

The pacing in general is a big improvement especially with how the scenes are cut and rearranged. I’m also digging a lot of the new creative ideas that you’ve come up with.

These are my critiques from memory but I’ll have to get my hands on a Google doc to give a more thorough analysis.

-Passana underground cave

• The cut from Rey igniting the saber to the group walking around is too jarring, I prefer how Hal intercut the Knights of Ren shot as a buffer. I also missed the flash light gag, thought it was hilarious, but to each their own!

• Recutting the Serpent’s introduction to give a more monster movie/Jurassic Park feel is a great way to build up tension. I think 3PO’s talk about the “law enacted in old Republic” should be moved up to when the crew see the snake, showing that 3PO is unaware of the danger.

"Breathe, just breathe "

• Nice nod to TLJ. I think it needs to be a little more subtle but it could just be the audio quality of the stream.

Rey/Tie fighter/ Chewbacca shuttle

• Brilliant idea, I think you should use Dominic cobb’s version that makes the scene longer using trailer footage. I think the scene should focus more on Kylo Ren’s approach, building more tension and not intercutting to the crew during the standoff.

"a prisoner?"

• The scene where Hux and Pryde talk of there being a prisoner on the transport is a dead giveaway of Chewie being alive. I think you should cut all indication of him being alive until it’s finally revealed on Kigimmi. I’d also cut the scene where Hux introduces Pryde to “the beast that flew with Han Solo”. The first time that we see him after his “death” should be when the crew finally meet him in his prison cell. That way you create anticipation for his rescue😉

Drama on the Death star

• Leia voice reaching out to Rey after sensing what she did to her son sounded kinda casual, maybe she could say “Rey, no !” instead. I wonder if the shot of Leia dropping her com-link would be more suitable for this scene? It would mirror the scene in TFA where she sensed the death of Han Solo.

the Princess of Alderaan has disrupted our plan

• Since in this version Han’s memory/spectre is what intervened and Leia just senses what’s happening from a far, it doesn’t really make sense to have Palpatine say that in this context.

Palpatine’s message/Kylo on Coruscant

• While Palpatine sending out his message after initiating the “final order” is not a bad idea, including Kylo Ren on Coruscant in the montage right after seeing him throw away the saber on the death star just doesn’t follow logically in this context. Maybe you could replace it with the shot of Kylo looking determined after having thrown away the saber. Otherwise you could place the message in the beginning of the film as the prime mover of the plot. The thing that ignites the race for the way finder’s and by extention, Exogol.

These are some of the nitpick I had based on the short time I had on the live Stream. Overall I’m very impressed with what you’ve done so far, looking forward to get my hands on a workprint!

Welcome to the forums! Mind shooting me a link?

Proposition:

Establishing shot of planet Mustafar > shot of Tie fighters entering Mustafar atmosphere (Rogue One) > PoppaSketti’s Tie fighters above Forest ( with Rogue’s idea of Ties opening fire) > shot of Troopers inside transport > troopers exiting transports > Kylo Ren.

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s an intended-as-final Mustafar sequence.

https://vimeo.com/433244859

Looks great, I still think the score needs more punch to it, something a little more bombastic. I think “journey to Exogol” is just perfect for this.

Edit: this one’s from a while back but it implements both the original “fanfare and prologue” pan down score as well as well as "journey to Exogol for the entire Mustafar sequence.
https://vimeo.com/399199550

RogueLeader said:

Or even a dark side version of Rey’s theme.

Here you go
https://youtu.be/HLsSgS-v14Y

axlanian said:

idir_hh said:

Ap’lek : 9

Kuruk : 5

Vicrul: 8

Usher: 5

Thanks! Could I get your second favorites too?

Second pick

Ap’Lek 5
Kuruk 8
Ushar 5
Vicrul 3

What do you think of using the reverse Tie fighter-destroyer shot from TFA? I think it works well with the flow of the scene.

It’s a great attempt but I have to agree that it looks more like a filter. Maybe Exogol could have a red sandy exterior while retaining the original colours in the interior of the temple?

Start with the the ghosts of Luke and Leia in the foreground and then have Anakin appear and finally have Ben appear. (Anakin’s arm on his shoulder)

I would love to see the ghosts appear in the foreground to watch as the falcon jumps into hyperspace.

I think the last shot should be the falcon going off in hyperspace, proceeded by the family pic scene. That way the last thing we see is the twin suns!

Ed Slushie said:

Since a lot of edits are repurposing the chess scene to put it at the end, has anyone thought about repurposing the shot of Rey, Finn, Poe, Threepio, and Chewie in the cockpit of the falcon from earlier in the movie as well? It’s got that “family portrait in space” vibe that the original trilogy’s ending shots all had.

Touché

I mean, weren’t the reused shots of Leia taken from interactions with characters that weren’t Rey? And even if they were using scenes with Rey why would her clothes and hair be a problem? They changed Leia’s look with CG so I don’t see how Rey a new look would have been an issue. I think we’re just rationalising the decision to rehash her TFA look. Worst case scenario, JJ doesn’t have an atom’s wight of creativity. Lol.

Probably impossible to achieve but one can dream, right?
https://i.redd.it/zd938qz765751.jpg

Ap’lek : 9

Kuruk : 5

Vicrul: 8

Usher: 5

Hal 9000 said:

idir_hh said:

Me thinks something like this would be ideal :
https://vimeo.com/420388818

Does the rest of that footage exist somewhere I can get it?

(1:45) https://youtu.be/cwP9LB_i8P8

TFA Reversed shot of Ties coming from Jakku.

TLJ: deleted Bridge scene
Music: Journey to Exogol.

Me thinks something like this would be ideal :
https://vimeo.com/420388818

Agreed with having the troop carriers fly by instead of the Ties. I think “Journey to Exogol” would be a better pick for the score.

Ed Slushie said:

Made a mockup of a previous idea:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JpiORXJIu_-KAw_fsp4EpnCxPENPinAI/view?usp=sharing

Put the arrival of the civilian fleet after Palpatine shocks the Resistance, allowing Rey’s lowest point and Poe’s lowest point to coincide so that the tone doesn’t flip-flop as much. Because most of the shots include ships that haven’t arrived yet, I changed it so that Palpatine only electrocutes the Tantive IV. I also added music from Revenge of the Sith and Jonh’s ghosts.

Haunting, mesmerising… beautiful.
👏

skenera said:

Unfortunately, blue lightsabers and blue lightning become white.

Maybe those could be masked individually?

skenera said:
Orange Exegol (LUT)

Love ittt.

I really love Exogol’s original color palette from the concept art.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbGjD1bU8AEi52C?format=jpg&name=medium

I hope we get around to doing this someday.

dgraham414 said:

I posted an idea earlier about changing Finn’s first line in the movie since him saying R2’s name felt a bit awkward but nobody jumped on it so I pulled out the only program I had (iMovie) and did my best to make a mock-up of what it could look/sound like.

I was able to cobble together 3 options.

https://vimeo.com/432035872
Password: fanedit

The audio is very janky and it almost seems for the unaltered audio that there are two channels on top of each other, but in iMovie I don’t really know how to deal with that.

Let me know what you think!

Those are pretty good. “look sharp” would be my pick.

jarbear said:

Poor Finn, his character was so mishandled. The most interesting thing about him from TFA was a stormtrooper who turned (showing storm troopers could be more than just drones) that would have been something totally new and have his character build upon that with the Star Wars brand. (Which the leak Dual of the Fates script built upon, that was a good direction IMO)

… and then in this movie … the crew meets up with A WHOLE PLATOON OF TURNED STORMTROOPERS who essentially said “Hey, you know what was cool and unique with your character at the beginning of the trilogy, not so unique anymore! (cue in Nelson’s “Ha Ha!”)”

Anyway, with the whole thing regarding Finn’s proclamation of not telling Rey something. It was still baffling in theaters what HE wanted to say to her, but also, the context of the scene. (Yes, we see throughout the movie it heavily implies he is force sensitive, but again, not really points to what he wanted to say to her.)

The crew, made up of close friends, are probably about to be buried in quicksand and die. The last thing while he wants to say before he dies to his close friend is “I may be force sensitive?!”

Just think about it. The logic and context of the scene is baffling. Let’s say you are with a bunch of friends swimming in the ocean and you all get caught by an under current. You are all about to drown, and one of your friends turns to you and says: “INSERT NAME HERE, I always wanted to tell you I can bowl a perfect 300 game!”

Impressive. Yes. Interesting? Sure. But in that context, makes no sense to blurt out as his/her dying last words.

So although I don’t think you can get around that scene, the context of it MAKES NO SENSE for him to shout that out. You ASSUME you are about to die. That’s what his last dying word(s) will be for that moment? So for me its the context of the scene. That’s what I have a problem with it, personally. On top of that … he then keeps it as a secret the whole time? Really?

That ends my TED Talk.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, hit the nail on it’s head.
I say we axe that entire plot thread.