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Ed Slushie said:

I think a lot of Rey’s interactions in the Rise of Skywalker (Specifically, the two times she thinks about telling Leia about her vision, but decides against it) would have a lot more weight if she already knew she was a Palpatine. Plus, it would give new meaning to the part where Luke tells her that Leia knew all along and still decided to train her. So, against almost all logic, I’m thinking about making an edit of TLJ to better set this up.
Basically, I’d need to make two major changes in dialogue:

• Add at least one line about how there were rumors of Palpatine having a biological heir. Ideally, Luke would explain in his flashback that most people thought Snoke was the heir, but that Luke believed Snoke was just someone in the right place at the right time.
• In the throne room, Kylo reveals that the “heir” was actually Rey’s father. Then, in trying to persuade Rey to join him, he posits that the resistance would kill her if they found out who she truly was.

Then, in the Rise of Skywalker:

• Cut all references to Palpatine being alive, until Rey meets with Kylo in the hangar. That’s when Kylo reveals Palpatine is back. Because it’s a slow scene and he’s wearing a mask, there’d be a lot more room for him to explain it in a way that makes sense than in the earlier resistance briefing scene.

How does that sound?

Agree I do, hmmm !

Edit: There’s an edit by Fixing-Disney Star wars that plants the seeds of Palpatine’s return in TFA.
https://youtu.be/ALC1H4Yp48M

Maybe this could be changed into a Rumoured heir to Palpatine?

RogueLeader said:
But like kraus said, I think it could also work as a replacement for Beaumont translating the Sith-language transmission. Because WHY are they transmitting a broadcast in a language that no one can understand?

Wait… If Beaumont could translate the sith language… that means half of the movie was wasted on a pointless bantha chase?!

This deal is getting worse every time

The scene would continue on like IIFanEditor version.
https://vimeo.com/399876146
Pw:fanedit

Yes, if you listen closely, my version of the broadcast kinda adds more context to the events of the ST in general.
“At last the work of generations is complete. The great error is corrected.Skywalker is Dead. The Republic has been destroyed. The day of victory is at hand. The day of Revenge. The days of the Sith”
https://vimeo.com/404134108

Yes but for the audiance seeing him in the cockpit makes the scene all more intense.

Maybe the scene could emphasis more that Kylo is in the Tie by showing him earlier instead of at the end.

That scene is essential for completing Finn’s arc in TLJ as well as setting up the storm trooper revolution in Trevorrow’s DOTF script.

I’m with you, my point was that the standoff between Rey and the Tie fighter was a little too short in you’re edit. Dominic’s version would be a good base to use to allow the the scene to breath more.

Movies Remastered said:
Rey/Tie fighter/ Chewbacca shuttle
Do you have a link to Dominics cut? I’ve not seen that…

Here you go https://vimeo.com/407939026

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Doms-Possibly-Useful-TROS-Edit/id/72967

I think the only 2 ways the broadcast could fit would be to either put it after Palpatine declares that the final order has begun or in the first act when the resistance is huddled together to listen to the message received by Finn and Co.
Something like this: https://vimeo.com/404134108

After hearing the message the scene could go on as normal with “somehow Palpatine returned”.

Here are my thoughts on the small portion of the live stream that I had the chance to watch. (Passana chase to Rey landing on Exogol)

The pacing in general is a big improvement especially with how the scenes are cut and rearranged. I’m also digging a lot of the new creative ideas that you’ve come up with.

These are my critiques from memory but I’ll have to get my hands on a Google doc to give a more thorough analysis.

-Passana underground cave

• The cut from Rey igniting the saber to the group walking around is too jarring, I prefer how Hal intercut the Knights of Ren shot as a buffer. I also missed the flash light gag, thought it was hilarious, but to each their own!

• Recutting the Serpent’s introduction to give a more monster movie/Jurassic Park feel is a great way to build up tension. I think 3PO’s talk about the “law enacted in old Republic” should be moved up to when the crew see the snake, showing that 3PO is unaware of the danger.

"Breathe, just breathe "

• Nice nod to TLJ. I think it needs to be a little more subtle but it could just be the audio quality of the stream.

Rey/Tie fighter/ Chewbacca shuttle

• Brilliant idea, I think you should use Dominic cobb’s version that makes the scene longer using trailer footage. I think the scene should focus more on Kylo Ren’s approach, building more tension and not intercutting to the crew during the standoff.

"a prisoner?"

• The scene where Hux and Pryde talk of there being a prisoner on the transport is a dead giveaway of Chewie being alive. I think you should cut all indication of him being alive until it’s finally revealed on Kigimmi. I’d also cut the scene where Hux introduces Pryde to “the beast that flew with Han Solo”. The first time that we see him after his “death” should be when the crew finally meet him in his prison cell. That way you create anticipation for his rescue😉

Drama on the Death star

• Leia voice reaching out to Rey after sensing what she did to her son sounded kinda casual, maybe she could say “Rey, no !” instead. I wonder if the shot of Leia dropping her com-link would be more suitable for this scene? It would mirror the scene in TFA where she sensed the death of Han Solo.

the Princess of Alderaan has disrupted our plan

• Since in this version Han’s memory/spectre is what intervened and Leia just senses what’s happening from a far, it doesn’t really make sense to have Palpatine say that in this context.

Palpatine’s message/Kylo on Coruscant

• While Palpatine sending out his message after initiating the “final order” is not a bad idea, including Kylo Ren on Coruscant in the montage right after seeing him throw away the saber on the death star just doesn’t follow logically in this context. Maybe you could replace it with the shot of Kylo looking determined after having thrown away the saber. Otherwise you could place the message in the beginning of the film as the prime mover of the plot. The thing that ignites the race for the way finder’s and by extention, Exogol.

These are some of the nitpick I had based on the short time I had on the live Stream. Overall I’m very impressed with what you’ve done so far, looking forward to get my hands on a workprint!

Welcome to the forums! Mind shooting me a link?

Proposition:

Establishing shot of planet Mustafar > shot of Tie fighters entering Mustafar atmosphere (Rogue One) > PoppaSketti’s Tie fighters above Forest ( with Rogue’s idea of Ties opening fire) > shot of Troopers inside transport > troopers exiting transports > Kylo Ren.

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s an intended-as-final Mustafar sequence.

https://vimeo.com/433244859

Looks great, I still think the score needs more punch to it, something a little more bombastic. I think “journey to Exogol” is just perfect for this.

Edit: this one’s from a while back but it implements both the original “fanfare and prologue” pan down score as well as well as "journey to Exogol for the entire Mustafar sequence.
https://vimeo.com/399199550

RogueLeader said:

Or even a dark side version of Rey’s theme.

Here you go
https://youtu.be/HLsSgS-v14Y

axlanian said:

idir_hh said:

Ap’lek : 9

Kuruk : 5

Vicrul: 8

Usher: 5

Thanks! Could I get your second favorites too?

Second pick

Ap’Lek 5
Kuruk 8
Ushar 5
Vicrul 3

What do you think of using the reverse Tie fighter-destroyer shot from TFA? I think it works well with the flow of the scene.

It’s a great attempt but I have to agree that it looks more like a filter. Maybe Exogol could have a red sandy exterior while retaining the original colours in the interior of the temple?

Start with the the ghosts of Luke and Leia in the foreground and then have Anakin appear and finally have Ben appear. (Anakin’s arm on his shoulder)

I would love to see the ghosts appear in the foreground to watch as the falcon jumps into hyperspace.

I think the last shot should be the falcon going off in hyperspace, proceeded by the family pic scene. That way the last thing we see is the twin suns!

Ed Slushie said:

Since a lot of edits are repurposing the chess scene to put it at the end, has anyone thought about repurposing the shot of Rey, Finn, Poe, Threepio, and Chewie in the cockpit of the falcon from earlier in the movie as well? It’s got that “family portrait in space” vibe that the original trilogy’s ending shots all had.

Touché

I mean, weren’t the reused shots of Leia taken from interactions with characters that weren’t Rey? And even if they were using scenes with Rey why would her clothes and hair be a problem? They changed Leia’s look with CG so I don’t see how Rey a new look would have been an issue. I think we’re just rationalising the decision to rehash her TFA look. Worst case scenario, JJ doesn’t have an atom’s wight of creativity. Lol.

Probably impossible to achieve but one can dream, right?
https://i.redd.it/zd938qz765751.jpg