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#107654
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RotS is Anti-Bush?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107654/action/topic#107654
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Jesus H Christ people, let's not make this a political thread... It's like saying Dragon Ball Z is pro-Blair, it's ridiculous. Instead of discussing if Palpatine is a liberal or a conservative, discuss politics with political films such as "Bulworth", "All the President's Men", "Fahrenheit 9/11", "Dr. Strangelove"...


LOL... c'mon, ric- it was a joke (at least on my part!)... I'm no fan of politics entering into escapist fiction.

Afterall, that's not what SW is about- if it was, GL would be making movies about boring crap like Senate hearings, blockades, executive powers, votes of no-confidence and.... uh.... wait a minute....

nevermind.

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#107584
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ROTS: Question about Palpatine/Sidious (SPOILER)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107584/action/topic#107584
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Agreed. Sifo-Dyas was a Jedi, so to think that he was a Jedi, and a Sith Master, and a planetary govenor - ALL at the same time (and who was subsequently not recognized by anyone) really defies belief.


That George Lucas, in the absence of any outside influence on his writing (ie editors, producers, etc), actually paid ANY attention to these minor details and wasn't just pulling 'cool' (in his opinion) sounding stuff out of his ass REALLY defies belief!
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#107387
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107387/action/topic#107387
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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
Sorry...
I just saw that Icon in the profile options and thought it was too cool to pass up...
If it is something that is solely yours, I can change it.


LOL- nah, its OK... it just makes me have to glance a little bit harder at posts, as I keep thinking "I didn't post *that*.... oooohhhhh."

Plus, if ye truly be thee MagnoliaFan of 'Edits' fame, its an honor to share the icon- but one question: Does GL know of the work you've done, or is it all covert-like? (cue James Bond theme here)
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#107289
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ROTS: Question about Palpatine/Sidious (SPOILER)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107289/action/topic#107289
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I had hoped that he would have just 'revealed' his TRUE form, but on second watch I really think GL was just trying to insinuate that he overloaded on his own lightning and sorta melted. *Perhaps* accounting for the horrible voice warbles he went through in the next few scenes... which I think were changed in post production instead of heve been delivered so poorly like that by Ian McDiarmid.
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#107287
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The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107287/action/topic#107287
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Originally posted by: PMD


I'm kinda wondering if the youngling's calling Anakin MASTER made him go just a little more apeshit... Nothing like rubbing a little salt in the wound.


LOL- I had the same thought! After making such a big deal out of him not being 'Master' and all. Threw me right out of what otherwise might have been a pretty chilling scene.

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#107284
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Ep. III: Focus on tracked music
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107284/action/topic#107284
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Speaking of tracked things, anyone else catch how many identical shots and out-of-place sets were used over again? Examples include:

1) Obi-Wan's over-the-head saber pose when he was about to fight Grievous was re-used from a slightly different angle in the same sequences.

2) Padme's new (*again*) ship- when she and 3PO took off from Coruscant to go find Anakin, the ships console was the exact same one from her other ship in AOTC... and she presses the same magic button on the console that in ATOC was used to send a transmission and something else (pour drinks, flush the toilet or something). Yes, I know that in theory the ships would probably have been made by the same company (IE Naboo-Chrysler) but c'mon...

I realize these are ultimate nits, but the editor in me likes to pick them..
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#107249
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The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107249/action/topic#107249
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(first, an apology to those who saw my post about uploading the script.... my hosting didn't have enough space for it so I'm working on another alternative)

Here's the 'evidence' that the Qui-Gon scene was filmed:

First, USA Today reported a brief snippet from a movie premiere comment:

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Star Wars alums Neeson and Jackson both offered hints that George Lucas has shot a top-secret cameo of Neeson as Qui-Gon Jinn's ghost, à la Alec Guinness, for May's Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. "I can't speak about it," Neeson joked. "Jedi code of ethics."


Later, in THIS article from USA Today, the following was said:

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Although his stately Jedi master Qui-Gon Jinn was a goner in Star Wars, Episode I: The Phantom Menace, Neeson puts in a ghostly appearance in the series finale, Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith on May 19.

In Phantom Menace, he mentored Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan Kenobi and trained Jake Lloyd's Anakin Skywalker as a junior Jedi before meeting his fate in a saber duel opposite the vicious Darth Maul.

But much like Alec Guinness' Obi-Wan in the first trilogy, Qui-Gon's influential spirit lingers on.


Then again, not that IMDB is a definitive source in all cases, but their site does NOT list ROTS under Liam Neeson's profile. So I suppose we'll have to wait for the DVD to find out if that scene is included.
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#107143
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107143/action/topic#107143
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What I find funny is the people who "loved" the film and have the same gripes as the people who "hated" the film. There's nothing at all wrong with just liking or not liking it, folks!

Famous over-justifications:

"That Titanic was a great ship.. you know, except for the whole sinking thing"

"Man, I loved that dinner... well except for the roach I found on my plate"

"How could you *not* have loved the early 1940s? That 'World War' didn't bother me at all"
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#107047
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107047/action/topic#107047
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For that matter (the timeframe issue) DID Luke even go back to Yoda for training between ESB and ROTJ? In ROTJ when Luke *does* go to Dagobah doesn't he tell Yoda that he is 'back to complete his training'? And Yoda tells him that he has nothing left to learn?

Maybe, between ESB and ROTJ, the Force-ghost of Qui-Gon completes Luke's training!!!! Yeah, that's it! And Luke is just being sarcastic to the old Yoda about 'completing his training'. heh heh.
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#107037
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ROTS: The Jedi Now Seen In A Different Light...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107037/action/topic#107037
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
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Originally posted by: Asha
Did they go back to free Anakin's mother from slavery? The amount of money she was worth was a drop in the bucket for the Jedi, yet they left her to be a slave. Awful.


Uh, I suppose while in film school george lucas didn't attend the "Plot Holes 101" class?


LOL. For that matter, why didn't Qui-Gon just tell Watto to keep C-3PO as his slave and take mom in the first place?
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#107028
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107028/action/topic#107028
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
And to me, I have no problem keep such disparaties in their own places. I know that there is an effort to make everything mesh to, but just as the open architecture of PCs leads to numerous incompatibilities, so does the very nature of several writers giving their own takes on Star Wars stories. Just as with the films, some books are good, and some books are crap. You just have to be realistic about what was intended, rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater.


Oh I know. And trust me- I LOVE to nitpick movies... much to the hatred of my close friends. I haven't posted my full review of ROTS, but I will say my initial reaction was... ho-hum. NOT because of plot points or this-not-matching-that because I gave up any hope of that after seeing TPM. My main problem with ALL the prequels was that they were, IMHO, just not very good examples of filmmaking. I've seen some movies that were brilliantly crafted and scripted that I haven't liked the 'story' but I found these films devoid of internal consistency, clarity, true depth of character and, frankly, technical prowess. And before people jump on that last part, CGI- good or not- does not a well- crafted film make. I doubt anyone would deny ILM has the skills to pay the bills, but they're only as good as the project that they are creating.
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#107020
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107020/action/topic#107020
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LOL- this is great! I find myself getting swept up in reading this thread... and tend to forget that its ALL made up!

Despite what any of us thinks one way or another, the only *facts* of any of this are that a boy named George made up a story, made lots of money from that story, and made some more stories. He didn't care all that much what specifically happened in those stories as long as he was in control of them at some point and kept making money on them.

So while we (myself included) argue whose version of SW revisionist history is right or wrong and best or worst, George is smiling back at the ranch and sipping some wine with Francis Ford Coppola and Steven Speilberg.

PS: I think GL got the Obi-Wan's name 'Ben' from the picture of the man on the little green pieces of paper that his swimming pool is filled with.

PSS: I actually thought, at the time of TPM, that 'Sifo Dyas' was just a psuedonym for SID-I-OUS and that had been who ordered the clones some way or another.
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#106874
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The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106874/action/topic#106874
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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
No, that line is in the film version, TheCassidy.

Also, Whils is a refrence to one of the early drafts of ANH, Shimraa. "The journal of the Whils." At least, I'm pretty sure that's what it is.


Yeah, in the novel of ANH (and I believe the original script) the story opens: "From The Journal of the Whills..."

I'm not up on the EU, but unless there are references to it there than I don't think GL ever brought it up again- which is why I was excited to see a reference to it in the ROTS script.