generalfrevious

doubleofive said:

generalfrevious said:

doubleofive said:

generalfrevious said:

Does anyone realize that SW has been creatively bankrupt for 35 YEARS NOW!

Besides redlettermedia?

I was like “oh look, gf posted in Random Thoughts, I wonder if it will be a doomsaying prophecy?”

I was close.

Well the franchise is worse off than it was than in 1997. Even if Disney gives the OUT in 4K quality, we still have to deal with half a dozen films that just cover the same ground as ANH/ESB. How many times can you see AT-AT’s in a film before the audience gets bored? Disney is a far more cynical filmmaking company than prequel-era Lucas ever was.

In your opinion. Which most of the world doesn’t share.

No one has to “deal” with movies. You can ignore them (like I wish I could to you on this forum again) and the rest of us can enjoy them.

How can you ignore them when 95% of movies released today are corporate tentpole blockbusters pandering to Chinese audiences? Will anyone like it when the Star Wars franchise is reduced to two good movies and twenty mediocre ones?

Disney is not about storytelling anymore, its about EXPLOITING NOSTALGIA to make a profit.

doubleofive said:

generalfrevious said:

Does anyone realize that SW has been creatively bankrupt for 35 YEARS NOW!

Besides redlettermedia?

I was like “oh look, gf posted in Random Thoughts, I wonder if it will be a doomsaying prophecy?”

I was close.

Well the franchise is worse off than it was than in 1997. Even if Disney gives the OUT in 4K quality, we still have to deal with half a dozen films that just cover the same ground as ANH/ESB. How many times can you see AT-AT’s in a film before the audience gets bored? Disney is a far more cynical filmmaking company than prequel-era Lucas ever was.

Does anyone realize that SW has been creatively bankrupt for 35 YEARS NOW!

Besides redlettermedia?

DominicCobb said:

CatBus said:

DominicCobb said:

Jeebus said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

I know people hate her, but how was she not qualified?

People often say lots of things “disqualify” someone, rather than just looking at a set of prerequisites. I personally thought her vote on the AUMF was a war crime. I thought her vote on the MCA was abhorrent. I’m sure some people would say that because she used e-mail, she’s disqualified, but I’m not among them. I don’t think these things disqualify so much as significantly push down her appeal. Frankly if she’d never been a Senator, and she’d only been Secretary of State and First Lady (and all her qualifications from before), I may have happily voted for her, rather than with the same shudder I gave when I voted for Kerry. Nevertheless, the fact that she had any qualifications at all, and that she wasn’t endorsed by the Klan, and that she wasn’t the Kremlin’s pick, put her over the top for me. It’s a low bar, but she cleared it easily.

As for qualifications, she doesn’t rank up there with Jefferson or Bush I, but she’s up there. She was extremely qualified. But her record as a Senator was troubling.

So she’s a war criminal, but at least she’s not endorsed by people you don’t like?

I think “war criminal” is a bit hyperbole. It was a vote to use force against terrorists days after 9/11.

There are lots of opinions on that matter, but I’m using the Nuremburg standard. The AUMF was a blank check to someone who’d already made it very clear he planned to attack the Iraqis on any dreamed up pretext. If Bush had been a little more guarded about his plans, or if there was ever any credible link between Iraq and Sept 11, there’d be more room for argument. As it was, Hillary knew the Iraqis posed no threat, and she knew she was authorizing an attack on them. The only thing she didn’t know is that we weren’t just planning to attack, we were planning to occupy–and that there would be political fallout because of that. Had she known that, she may have calculated differently.

She was fortunate that Trump was also in the “I supported the invasion until it started losing popularity” club, or he may have gotten more votes than her.

Oh you mean the Iraq Resolution? Well that’s a bit different, though we still should remember people thought they had WMDs at the time.

Which the Bush administration deliberately LIED ABOUT just so his cabinet could get rich off Iraqi oil reserves (and no, this isn’t a conspiracy theory). Cheney planned the invasion and occupation of Iraq all the way back in 1992, and all he needed was a terrorist attack to justify imperial conquest (again, 9/11 was preventable, this is not a conspiracy either, read the commission report).

Half a million civilians were murdered in Iraq by Bush administration, and yet none of the people responsible will ever face punishment for their war crimes. This is the reason why today the government can check every single person’s internet and phone call history without regard civil liberties. This is why Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden sacrificed their freedom to expose the Orwellian dystopia the United States has become int he last fifteen years. This is why Donald Trump became president and ISIS took over in the Middle East. This is why any nonwhite person can be detained regardless of guilt or innocence, and spend the rest of their lives imprisoned at a CIA black site because of suspected terrorism.

All this happened because an illegitimate presidency (Bush v Gore installed it) wanted to make more money at the expense of the rest of the world.

Am I going to be banned? If I am, will I be notified?

I am not trolling, I am seriously wondering if I’m going to be kicked out or not.

This is one of the only outlets I have left right now.

All republicans are clinical sociopaths. They do not deserve any fucking sympathy. We are in the worst period in human history and it’s all their fault.

Jeebus said:

generalfrevious said:

I’m glad the AHCA failed miserably; I still think the Republican party are just a bunch of subhuman scum that doesn’t deserve to live, but then that’s just my frustration blowing off steam.

I don’t think you can excuse calling for genocide by saying you’re “just blowing off steam.”

Republicans hate every single human being that isn’t white, male, straight, christian, and/or unborn. They have done everything in their power to shove their delusional vision of America down our throats, even when 90% of the country opposes their policies. They believe the wealthiest of the wealthy should be protected from taxation at any cost, even if 24 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE to achieve that goal. They are infinitely worse than every single evil political party that has ever existed in the last 100 years. They are beyond dangerous, and they are headed by one of the most evil men in history, Donald Trump.

I’m glad the AHCA failed miserably; I still think the Republican party are just a bunch of subhuman scum that doesn’t deserve to live, but then that’s just my frustration blowing off steam.

Sadly, 99% of these assholes will either lose their primaries to even more extreme right-wing nutjobs, or be reelected by a landslide thanks to gerrymandering.

The Democrats are delusional if they think they can win back Congress in 2018, because the system has been rigged against them for the next few decades, and they lack the intelligence to avoid political extinction.

Warbler said:

generalfrevious said:

The AHCA is a mass murder law. Even though nearly every American opposes it, it WILL be passed into law in spite of all our hopes.

Neil Gorsuch is going to be on the Supreme Court, even though he is the most right-wing justice ever installed in American history. He will be there until the 2050s at the earliest, and the human rights of hundreds of millions of Americans will suffer for decades afterwards as more right-wing cronies are appointed to the court.

Vladimir Putin murdered another Russian journalist yesterday. He is the true leader of the United States now, and he rules indirectly through Donald Trump. How much longer until the same horrors of Putin’s Russia end up happening to Journalists here stateside? Putin will run the world until he over a hundred years old.

By then the United States will not only be worse than the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and Red China combined, it will also be the poorest nation ever seen in human history.

AHCA is mass murder? Putim is the true leader of the United States? This sounds like doomsaying and crazy conspiracy theories.

People without insurance will not get medical attention when needed and die as a result, unless they want to be in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. The AHCA deliberately takes away health insurance from the people who need it the most. This is murder, plain and simple.

Russia definitely interfered in the last election so they could have a pro-Russia lackey in the White House who would be soft on NATO. This is, again, not a conspiracy, but widely reported news from reliable mainstream outlets, and backed by the FBI. Putin has murdered journalists ever since he came into power almost twenty years ago. Again, the deaths of Russian journalists is not a fringe conspiracy distributed by “SJWs” on college campuses. These are facts, period.

Warbler said:

A reminder to generalfrevious and Alderaan:

DuracellEnergizer said:

• No crazy conspiracy theories (aliens killed JFK, Elvis did 911, Moon Landing was faked, 911 was an inside job)
• No ridiculous doom saying (like all non-Trump supporters will be rounded up and executed)

The next time I see either of you violate those rules, I will report you.

If this health care bill passes 24 million people will be without health insurance within ten years. That is not a fringe conspiracy theory or pointless doomsaying; it comes from the congressional budget office.

How can the Republican Party be this evil? They have rigged three presidential elections, gerrymandered their way to victory in congress, are going to install seven right-wing demagogues in the Supreme Court, and do everything in their power to prevent all nonwhite citizens from voting ever again in the foreseeable future.

The body count hasn’t even started and they have proven themselves to be the worst political party in human history.

The AHCA is a mass murder law. Even though nearly every American opposes it, it WILL be passed into law in spite of all our hopes.

Neil Gorsuch is going to be on the Supreme Court, even though he is the most right-wing justice ever installed in American history. He will be there until the 2050s at the earliest, and the human rights of hundreds of millions of Americans will suffer for decades afterwards as more right-wing cronies are appointed to the court.

Vladimir Putin murdered another Russian journalist yesterday. He is the true leader of the United States now, and he rules indirectly through Donald Trump. How much longer until the same horrors of Putin’s Russia end up happening to Journalists here stateside? Putin will run the world until he over a hundred years old.

By then the United States will not only be worse than the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and Red China combined, it will also be the poorest nation ever seen in human history.

I kind of admire the early CGI from the 70s & 80s, given the limits of computer technology at the time.

Anything after the mid-90s, not so much.

canofhumdingers said:

nickyd47 said:

There wasn’t any CGI in the original version.

WRONG!!!

Correction: there wasn’t any 90s CGI shoehorned into a 70s film in the original.

Wow. Everyone is just giving up now aren’t they? I refuse to accept a world where a fan edit is the only way to watch the original versions.

Wow. Everyone is just giving up now aren’t they? I refuse to accept a world where a fan edit is the only way to watch the original versions.

Disney better release the original versions, or else.

We have waited too fucking long.

Lord Haseo said:

generalfrevious said:

Kurtz was fired because of Lucas’s ego, and the budget issues on ESB were just an excuse. Lucas could not stand someone else making a better SW movie than him, one that put story first and merchandising second. If Kurtz worked on Jedi it would have blown Empire out of the water.

The ending would have been way better but as it pertains to the totality of ROTJ it is uncertain. Surely things like Luke skipping the end of his training and the Ewoks being so focal wouldn’t have been written into the script but Kurtz’s version of ROTJ would need to do more than fixing the mistakes of the original ROTJ to be legitimately better.

At least we would have a franchise that hasn’t been on a losing streak for 35 straight years.

Kurtz was fired because of Lucas’s ego, and the budget issues on ESB were just an excuse. Lucas could not stand someone else making a better SW movie than him, one that put story first and merchandising second. If Kurtz worked on Jedi it would have blown Empire out of the water.

Of all the bad things Lucas has done over the years, at least he didn’t tastelessly CGI in long-dead actors into his movies.

There is no real reason for Disney to release the OUT, because then they wouldn’t have a carrot to entice people to see Episodes VIII & IX.

There is an entire generation of people under 30 who have never seen the originals or even remember them; so the SE is just how it always was and will be.

ray_afraid said:

generalfrevious said:

Lord Haseo said:

generalfrevious said:
Say what you want about the prequels, they were at least interesting failures as opposed to passable filler.

I would rather have a film that’s watchable than to watch a bad film that’s only somewhat enjoyable when talking about how it could have been better in retrospect. But hey…

we had three years to recover from the TRAUMA.

So sick of seeing people talk about the PT as if it was actually something that scared them. Or maybe it’s just evidence of individuals who’ve done nothing with their lives and have no barometer of reality.
They were terrible films and that was very disappointing, but if the disappointment over some stupid movies caused you trauma, you gots problems.

Personally, I was never traumatized by the PT. But a lot of fanboys were, and I don’t want people here thinking I’m going soft on the prequels or saying they were good movies.

Now Disney wants to make a film a year, based on a franchise (everybody admits) that was running out of steam by the the third installment.

I dunno who this movie reviewer whose opinion you cling so blindly to is, but this person is wrong. Many people consider ROTJ the weakest of the OT, but few thought the franchise was near “out of steam” after it’s release. When the PT was officially announce, you could hardly find anybody with even a slight concern that it might not turn out great.

Hindsight proves that the franchise ran out of steam years before Episode I came out. The prequels have nothing in them to justify a two-hour running time, when they’re not stealing elements from the OT to make them “like poetry.” I’ll be proven right when this whole cinematic universe trend collapses on itself in a few years, and all that’s left are half a dozen glorified fan films that just repeat all the plot beats from ANH/ESB. No one will remember TFA or Rogue One as fondly as ESB in twenty years.

Finally, at least Lucas ruined franchises he created… That why I think Lucas selling the franchise to Disney might be one of the worst thing he has ever done, behind the SE of course.

The creator ruining their own art doesn’t make the destruction any better than if if was done by a random vandal.

I’d rather have an artist ruin his own work in an act of madness that see some corporate boardroom churn out half a million tons of garbage no one will care about a week later.

Lord Haseo said:

generalfrevious said:
Say what you want about the prequels, they were at least interesting failures as opposed to passable filler.

I would rather have a film that’s watchable than to watch a bad film that’s only somewhat enjoyable when talking about how it could have been better in retrospect. But hey…

The prequels at least weren’t some cinematic universe with no end in sight like today. As unwatchable as they were, we knew Lucas couldn’t make more than three of them, and we had three years to recover from the trauma. Now Disney wants to make a film a year, based on a franchise (everybody admits) that was running out of steam by the the third installment. At least with Marvel they had decades of stories and dozens of superheroes to work with. All SW has are the elements from ANH/ESB that fanboys would be upset over if they were left out (TIE FIGHTERS!!! X-WINGS!!! AT-ATS AT-ATS!!!). Finally, at least Lucas ruined franchises he created; it’s not like a media conglomerate that buys up everything not nailed to the floor, and hired yes men who have ruined previous franchises (Jar Jar Abrams) to helm their corporate art. That why I think Lucas selling the franchise to Disney might be one of the worst thing he has ever done, behind the SE of course.

I don’t think Disney is going to take away people’s OT merchandise or stop people from watching the OOT. What could happen is that they pollute the franchise with studio mandated films with the same elements from ANH/ESB. Say what you want about the prequels, they were at least interesting failures as opposed to passable filler.

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

In two weeks frevious will read a positive article about the switch and love it.

Hahaha

Regardless, Skyward Sword is literally unplayable because of Nintendo’s focus on gimmicks over gameplay.

Yet it got perfect scores at the time just because it was a Zelda title.