generalfrevious

George released the GOUT for two reasons: to pour salt in the wounds of his fans, and to stop the bootleggers from eating into his profits. I think he continuously makes changes to these films either out of OCD problems or to screw over the very people who made him rich. He's a real maverick one-per center.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Frankly, there should be a law making it illegal to release a special edition/director's cut/etc. of a film without releasing the original cut alongside it.

 I couldn't have said it any better.

bkev said:

generalfrevious said:

George is nothing more than an overgrown child who wants to spread misery to other people.

 

I really have nothing to add to this conversation as to my own opinion other than George can do what he damn well pleases with his film.  I just wish it wasn't up to people like Harmy to give me the original nominee for best picture--and winner of best editing, costuming, effects, art direction, and score--in 1977.

 He still acts like a child. And don't call me crazy if a person who has continuously disappointed us for over thirty years might want  to make his fans upset on purpose. As long as the originals are commercially unavailable, I have every right to out Lucas for the contemptuous fraud he really is.

George is nothing more than an overgrown child who wants to spread misery to other people.

Mike O said:

Fang Zei said:

Yeah, I hate that directors can't leave well enough alone and have to digitally erase stuff from their older films. It becomes frustrating when a movie like Evil Dead gets a beautiful restoration for its blu-ray debut but is then altered from its original version because the director wanted to "fix" things.

By the way, did Cameron actually make alterations to T1? I remember reading about one or two shots that people had spotted, but I never saw screenshot comparisons. It's probably a given that he's made "fixes" to True Lies and The Abyss, which are hitting blu-ray later this year. I should probably brace myself for when the eventual remaster of T2 suffers a similar fate.

 What alterations were made The Evil Dead Blu-Ray? I know it didn't include the mono. The Terminator didn't include the original mono track, and much like he did with Aliens, Cameron has changed the color timing completely to that teal and orange that he wants it to swim in. I think the sadder part is that not only will T2, The Abyss, and True Lies almost certainly suffer the same fate (I still hate myself for supporting Wal-Mart and buying the HDX True Lies from Vudu, but it was the only place to get it.), and no one will give a damn. No one cares about the kind of revisionism practiced by Lucas, there certainly isn't anyone who gives a fuck about the recoloring on those films :(. The dark side of digital, change is easier than ever, and why? Because they can. And after Cameron spoke out against what Lucas did, too. FML.

 Those were minor technical points, aren't they? Cameron really hasn't done what Lucas has (right?), changing whole scenes around where another character shoots first, people screaming nooooo when they didn't in an earlier version, editing out original actors and replacing them with actors who weren't alive when  the original film was out, and shoehorning CGI from the late 90s into a film from the 70s. Then deride the real films as rough drafts and letting them disintegrate and be lost forever. This is a whole new level than just color correcting.

I don't know if this was mentioned in another thread, but I'm sick of CNN's excessive coverage of Flight 370; they have talked about it to death for almost a month now!

EyeShotFirst said:

Yeah, I've always wanted to see the THX 1138 that George originally made. I will never get to see it. It's almost like George tries to cover up what he sees as mistakes, but when he does it he usually gets poor results.

 It's safe to say that THX is, by all accounts, a lost film now.

Bingowings said:

Yeah I just saw it on Betamax, got it from that crusty time traveler down the market. BTW video piracy on obsolete recording media via the miracle of technology currently scientifically heretical is still wrong.

 Why Betamax? Why not DVD or even BitTorrent?

When marketing, and not people, make the movies, it will be 100% bad. That actually explains the whole saga really well. I mean, the real episode I was ANH, not TPM!

As a six hour movie (yeah right), how bad the whole saga is depends solely on ROTJ. Even if you see that film as flawless, the whole saga, as represented as a two hour movie, would only be 50 percent good. At worst, it would be a bad movie with 40 good minutes in it. 

And don't get me started on the sequel trilogy; by 2025 we could have a saga that is over 80 percent bad!

This may be an obvious question, but are the original '77-'83 movies even official canon anymore? I mean I read somewhere that Lucas claimed that the 2004 SE were the canonical versions to him; but since they have changed again for the Blu-ray release, is that version canon now? Or now that Disney owns the franchise, can Lucas change them yet again, so that whatever version of the OT exists when he dies, would this "deathbed" edition be the official (though not real) canon?

Well, I think Anakin was using his Jedi mind tricks on Padme. It explains how they got married after he killed women and children.

Challenge: name all the friendships Anakin and Obi Wan had with other characters in the Prequels that were actually better than the alleged "friendship" between the two characters themselves.

Does anyone know what happened to Kitster Chanchani Banai from TPM?

When Obi-wan said the line "...and he was a good friend," could he have actually referred to Detxter Jettster instead of Anakin? I mean he could of had five or six things going on in his head at the time, and he chose to bum out on a desert planet for 20 years instead of you know, helping the REBEL ALLIANCE.

I must obey whatever the church says, and regard all outsiders who do not agree as always wrong. I want to believe that the Church's teachings on sex are wrong, but I can't. So I must conform to their logic, so that abortion can be stopped and I don't have to go to church angry every week because the priest always works in abortion to every homily, how bad the "world" is, and how they feel persecuted by that world. And then I encounter countless websites saying that the Humane Vitae is vindicated and how bad the pill is, and how the hell anyone could be pro-choice. Just type in Humane Vitae in google or youtube to know what I mean.

RicOlie_2 said:

generalfrevious said:

TV's Frink said:

generalfrevious said:

No matter, oral contraception still kills embryos; the pill is worse than meth, therefore anyone who takes it might as well be committing an abortion anyways. Anyone who disagrees with this is a sociopath that has been brainwashed by the anti-christian, pro-abortion, second(or third)-wave feminist agenda.

 Please seek psychiatric help.  Seriously, you need it, no insult intended.

 That's not me. That's the Roman Catholic church speaking; I cannot disagree with them on any issue, or I will be damned.

If that is honestly your view, then you might need to do some research. You will not go to hell just for disagreeing on something. Not everything the Church teaches is infallible, so feel free to disagree on things that don't have to do with morals and suchlike.

This isn't the debate on wether the earth or the sun is in the center of the solar system or not; this is on issues of sex, the first sin man committed against God. They are brainwashing our women in taking a horrendous drug that inevitably lead to the trauma of murdering your own child. There is no grey area, reproductive rights are inherently misogynistic.

It's shocking that all Catholics who use contraception or disagree with the Humanae Vitae are so contemptuous of God's natural law and the call to purity and chastity, and turn a blind eye to one of the greatest genocides in recorded history. You have no idea how horrible the social impact of the contraceptive oral pill really is to society: families were more stable and loving, women had more dignity than they have now, divorce rates were almost nonexistent, sexually transmitted infections were low, less children were born out of wedlock, and people were less perverted than they are today. The governments of Western Nations are cracking down on the Roman Catholic church by forcing them to murder innocent human beings via contraception and abortions.

On one hand you seem to wholeheartedly agree with the Church's teachings; on the other, you seem to feel trapped by it and want to do away with many of them. I don't get it.

That's the devil talking. But we must always bear our cross, no matter how angry it makes us feel on the inside.

Catholics must always listen to the church elders and obey every law the church lays down; they are Christians first and citizens second. We may sound booted to you, but we will be comforted when we see the Popes in heaven and the Planned Parenthood thugs burning in hell for all eternity. 

 Not all Popes will go to heaven and not all Planned Parenthood supporters will burn in hell. Also, I can't imagine being comforted at the thought of someone going to hell.

 The wicked will be punished: that is a universal statement professed by all religions, and I'm sorry you cannot understand that. 

TV's Frink said:

generalfrevious said:

No matter, oral contraception still kills embryos; the pill is worse than meth, therefore anyone who takes it might as well be committing an abortion anyways. Anyone who disagrees with this is a sociopath that has been brainwashed by the anti-christian, pro-abortion, second(or third)-wave feminist agenda.

 Please seek psychiatric help.  Seriously, you need it, no insult intended.

 That's not me. That's the Roman Catholic church speaking; I cannot disagree with them on any issue, or I will be damned. It's shocking that all Catholics who use contraception or disagree with the Humanae Vitae are so contemptuous of God's natural law and the call to purity and chastity, and turn a blind eye to one of the greatest genocides in recorded history. You have no idea how horrible the social impact of the contraceptive oral pill really is to society: families were more stable and loving, women had more dignity than they have now, divorce rates were almost nonexistent, sexually transmitted infections were low, less children were born out of wedlock, and people were less perverted than they are today. The governments of Western Nations are cracking down on the Roman Catholic church by forcing them to murder innocent human beings via contraception and abortions. Catholics must always listen to the church elders and obey every law the church lays down; they are Christians first and citizens second. We may sound booted to you, but we will be comforted when we see the Popes in heaven and the Planned Parenthood thugs burning in hell for all eternity. 

No matter, oral contraception still kills embryos; the pill is worse than meth, therefore anyone who takes it might as well be committing an abortion anyways. Anyone who disagrees with this is a sociopath that has been brainwashed by the anti-christian, pro-abortion, second(or third)-wave feminist agenda.

Ok, sex is mostly evil, and should be restricted into the smallest possible boundaries.

Sex is evil. That is the first sin committed by man against God. Every teenage that has sexual urges is going through original sin.

No. We must always protect the voiceless or we go to hell. The unborn ARE the voiceless today. Every fetus is marked for death according to modern western abortion laws. Reproductive rights can never be rights if it involves the death of millions of innocent human beings.

You must not be catholic then. The word of God can not be compromised. We live in such a horrible society, where the culture of death reigns supreme, where there are more unborn killed every year than the last (the "official" statistics always lie), more than were murdered in both world wars combined. It is our duty to stop the slaughter, no matter how unpopular it is. The words of God are always hard to swallow. If they weren't, they would be false teachings.

Yes it is. Contraception is a prison. Eventually it will fail, and the pregnant woman will have no choice but to abort her child. Not to mention all the horrible medical side effects associated with its use. As Catholics, this issue separates the sheep from the goats. To use any form of contraception other than NFP is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, a sin that Jesus says can never be forgiven.

What about Pope Paul VI's four predictions anyone? It may not be really abortion related, but they are extremely airtight arguments that no one can disagree with (and I never knew how evil the pill really was):

Infidelity and moral decline

Lost respect for women

Abuse of power

Unlimited dominion

I guess the country doesn't bother me, but the church does, and I can't leave unless I want to alienate my entire family, and I have nowhere to go.