Hal 9000 said:
Whoa, do you have a goal of converting the whole film into 3D??
Most of the three movies, just so I have the necessary depth maps for shots that need to look more miniature.
darklordoftech said:
I noticed that ANH's climax is a space battle, not a lightsaber duel. I'd love to see another lightsaberless climax.
Now that you mention that fact, I'd totally go for that too!
ExNihilo said:
Any updates on this emanswfan? This is a great project
Working on miniature effects. Slowly but surely getting the opening shot fully converted to 3D. It'll be a faster process, when I've gotten all the kinks out of the process. Plus, this shot is the longest.
Carthage said:
In short it was a massive waste of time and further proof that the TCW series was horrible. The only plus was Tim Curry's performance as Darth Sidious was amazing.
Well, that's your opinion. I do see where you are coming from, and can agree with your points to a degree on the last arc. I tend to except a little bit more of the out-there PT SW mythos than most, so I tend to focus more on the tangible quality of the episode, and not the fact that TCW is still stuck in a scrictly PT-like world.
However, TCW is better than the prequels the huge majority of the time, so I wouldn't say it is a horrible series.
And please resist from spoilers for now, or at least we could just have a separate "TCW spoilers discussion" thread.
Just finished it all now, the last arc with Yoda made a great ending to the show, despite many plot threads still being left open due to the abrupt cancellation.
The first and last arc make a huge way in filling in the gaps when it comes to big parts of the PT, while the second and third arcs are just a continuation of the series.
Would have been nice to see the other two planned arcs for season 6, the last Maul arc (which is being adapted into a comic book of course), and supposedly an arc involving Ahsoka.
I'll discuss my opinions on this season more later, as I don't want to spoil anything for people here on accident.
Somewhere I know, is a great version of the PT amongst TCW and Rebels episodes, that could substitute until some sort of remake or re-edit of the PT is done by Disney. Just need to find it.
I think I'll finish season 6 by tonight, and then I'll post my thoughts. Just starting episode 9 right now, and this season has some of the best moments yet.
And for certain, the animation has improved even more of season 5 clearly.
I actually like the Ewoks themselves, unlike the gungans, but as soon as they start fighting stormtroopers, it feels like the gungan battle in TPM, just without all the crappy CGI.
This might not be GOUT, but this the old upscale shot from my PT project used the Adobe Detail preserving upscale:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/45634
I could try a test with a shot from the gout, if you want.
And yes, Infognition's Video Enhancer is ideal for upscaling but I'm still badly waiting for them to release a new 64 bit AE plugin, which according to their blog posts, isn't too far ahead.
New season 6 trailer for TCW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpd501LM6T8
This just makes me more mad that they cancelled this. Stupid Disney.
Rebels better be awesome!
I'm going to assume the animation is still very unfinished at the moment , like most teasers for anything. Notice how few real shots there are, and how basic they look. It's not coming out till fall so they have some time. Plus they only had animatics in the character videos, so I'm kinda surprised they'd try to make teasers yet.
And, I think the marketing is just doing a crap job. The final arc of season 5 of Clone Wars was enough to have me put my full faith in this, till I'm proved otherwise. Both the physical quality (story, acting, facial animation) and aesthetic quality (animation, rendering, music) were on par with Pixar films, IMO.
Hal 9000 said:
The only thing I'd question in this clip was Yoda's color. He seems desaturated, though perhaps that's okay.
Yes, Yoda's color has been bothering me a lot. I like most other colors, especially the skintones (except mace windu is lacking that richness in his skin older films usually have with african-american people.) I am just having a bit of trouble trying to make Yoda look properly saturated, I'll continue to look into it.
Well since I'm doing a larger file render, I'll be certain to make those adjustments.
I still want to keep some gate weave, so I could maybe cut the amount I currently have in half, so it is more subtle. I do feel it helps the CGI a lot, especially Yoda.
Audio is still in work, I have already planned on deepening Anakin's voice and raising Yoda's voice to get a more OT feel.
In regards to the color, I still feel like it doesn't look quite right, I still feel many of the shots feel too new.
Interesting Joel, that you actually feel it's been pushed a bit too far. Still don't feel that way.
One thing I should note, that these color grading settings here when applied to sets and places existent in the OT, look like they are from the OT. Which means, I might just be stuck with certain color schemes that are just there.
EDIT: Just realized Vimeo screwed up some shots in their encode and their is a weird jitter and shake that's not supposed be there. Is there any confusion with that jitter and consistent gate weave throughout the clip?
New clip up!
Vimeo Description:
Here's my next test of working with grading SW Ep. III to look much more like the OT. The digital look is truly gone from most of the shots. And much of the set/background CGI has been much improved by this. I'm still working on the colors a lot, they look far too modern, but I have gotten the lighting to respond closer to what I want. The palpatine conversation, and the council scene still need lots of work to look older.
I have audio this time, with an in-the-works oldified sound, which sounds overdone right now, partially because the grading is still not where I want it.
Password:
SW35OT
Will have 1080p far less compressed version soon available for download via 4shared, need to re-render for larger file size plus I accidentally left off a layer of color correction in AE that is somewhat important.
I'm finding it funny now that I see "I'll be back..." greyed out.
The Terminator said:
There's is a lot of things I would like to say to you guys at the moment, but I will refrain. I think I will take my business elsewhere before I am banned, in case I need to come back for something. Back to millenniumfalcon.com where I will talk about how big of douche bags users at OT.com are. I'm excluding Adywan though as I have great respect for your work and everyone else working on preservation of the original trilogy. Bon voyage!
Wow, somehow you managed to cross the line even further. Shows how untrue your apology was. You're the [lots of explict language], not us!
And your business is what, piracy?!
"You will never find a more wretched villainous scum!"
Wow, great job syncing up the new score to the scene! It works much better with less generic music.
Sorry, I haven't responded to your posts before, been busy trying to get my computer back up to shape.
Wow, thank you for the details on how the shots were composited in the OT, I will take that into consideration when working on the shots. I'll see about making another version of the Kamino shot sometime relatively soon.
In other news, I've gotten better at making films look older. For example, here's a non-SW shot (from Chronicles Of Narnia), where I nailed a very old 30's BW film stock look pretty spot on.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59283
I used a completely new technique I made myself relating to the sharpening, blurring, and grain addition. The distortions I made here add a lot more authenticity to an old look, along with curve film adjustments made in previous PT screenshots.
The OT does have these artifacts that I can't find a name for, but not to this degree. The issue is trying to do this in color, which currently doesn't work. I'm trying the technique with my current shots to see if I can get it to work. There are at least some shots where they are starting to look very-70's look, but have issues with certain colors and shadow/highlight detail. I probably won't post anymore screenshots until I know this can or can't work.
Also, I've found older films flicker slowly and largely and wobble quickly and extremely small. But they are actually very very subtle artifacts that come from shooting on older 35mm camera mechanisms and not poor re-prints and scans.
Certain that's not her, wish she looked that great right now.
timdiggerm said:
emanswfan said:
MY WHOLE SYSTEM RESET AND ALL MY FILES ARE GONE!
Uh...what
Not too big of a deal. They'll probably recover fine, just the new clip will be delayed a few days.
So I leave my house to run errands. Come back and see my computer is on the log in screen, that's odd. I had Windows 8, and it was saying "Preparing settings" or something like that. Guess it updated to 8.1 for me, how nice. :)
BUT GUESS WHAT?
MY WHOLE SYSTEM RESET AND ALL MY FILES ARE GONE! Guess it's time for Recuva.
SCREW YOU WINDOWS 8.1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-(
lpd said:
Right where's this clip then? ;-)
It's finished rendering yesterday afternoon, but I was busy with the superbowl yesterday. So I didn't start uploading it, till an hour ago. I'll post the links very soon after they are done.
Okay, sorry if I sounded like a dick before. I just always thought it looked sort of CGIish.
Full "Anakin at the Opera" video clip, coming tomorrow! It is rendering right now. I'll make a less compressed version available for download in addition to being able to view it on my Vimeo channel.
I know it's been mentioned here before, considering how much footage they shot for the prequels, more than the OT movies, they really should just re-edit them completely from scratch.
You could change A LOT, by combining the truly best takes and scenes, rescore, redo all the FX (especially considering all the greenscreen and bluescreen used in 2 and 3.) They could even drastically alter the plots.
Can't Disney make new edits, just like Lucas did, just far more extreme and higher budget?
But the explosion will be redone from scratch for the new version, right? It could look much better.