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#1321221
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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I’m thinking when the 4K discs come out, I can create essential versions of this project that would try best to recreate the look of their theatrical prints, and I would likely list these as a separate project.

The grades would be blanket and be in SDR, but still 4K. No AI sharpening will be done to the footage, and neither will upscaled deleted scenes be included.

This will simply emulate the Kodak print stocks and accompanying grain.

This will not be replacements for the full blown editions, but will help at least have more pleasing versions to view and base fan edits off until I one day get this massive project complete.

Are people here interested?

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#1320356
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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You can batch process it in photoshop using the plugin version, but Topaz did say they may be adding batch processing directly in the app at some point this year.

So likely I will plan out the rough plan for grading each film and then move on to sharpening all the shots. From there I will do the shot by shot color grade followed by film grain application.

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#1320230
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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For now, I’ve just been using the standard AI Gigapixel as I do many of my tests based on lossless screenshots to save unnecessary rendering times, but I’ll be working on using the video edition as soon as I can get windows up and running again on my laptop.

Standard AI Gigapixel doesn’t produce bad artifacts in motion from what I’ve tested but the advantage the video version is that it takes multiple frames into account and is able to recover more true detail via the motion.

I still have to test for motion consistency in Sharpen AI on video as that is what I will be using for creating the appearance of native 4K from the official 4K upscales of the PT coming in a few months.

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#1319667
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Hmm, that doesn’t really seem to follow the idea that Ep IX was supposed to be Leia’s movie, as TFA’s was Han’s, and TLJ was Luke’s. Makes me doubt its legitimacy.

While the plot sounds more interesting and respectful of TLJ, it’s impossible to make a judgement without reading it directly. Some of the best movies have the worst plots, and vice versa.

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#1316893
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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So while I wait for the 4K blu-rays to release, I’m going to go back and rework the deleted scenes from the DVD releases. So you can look forward to screenshots from those in the coming weeks.

Unfortunately though, I think it will be a while till I can get a new Desktop setup for this project. While I can generate previews and do tests on my laptop, it’s not really feasible to actually complete this project entirely on there. But I’ll be doing some research and hopefully I can build a new PC at some point in this new year.

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#1315567
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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So I’ve been looking at the new 10 bit 4K releases on Disney+ and given that these will release on 4K Bluray this Spring, this will be the new source to use likely. The extra bit depth and flatter image (when HDR is not applied), will be incredibly useful when it comes to allowing for strong regrading. Unfortunately there is still DNR with TPM and AOTC to deal with, but from my analysis, the pros outway the cons.

In terms of the whole AI upscaling, I am instead going to be using AI sharpening. I’ve tested Topaz Sharpen AI on several 4K Blu-rays that are upscales from 2K DI’s, and it does a fantastic job at adding detail to the already upscaled image.

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#1312164
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread — * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I’ll hopefully be seeing this tonight with my girlfriend. My expectations are quite low, but I’m sure I’ll enjoy it a lot even if it is a complete mess. JJ movies are always fun, but they never hold up to much scrutiny.

TFA was a nostalgia trip, TLJ was the most original SW movie since ESB, RO was a hyper-realistic portrayal of SW77, and Solo was a low stakes adventure. They’ve all offered something enjoyable even if they have all had their issues.

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#1305928
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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As someone that’s worked with the 4K Blu-ray of Solo, yes you can get a 10 bit flat image. It allows for a ton more flexibility in grading. There are ways of chroma upsampling and flattening footage yourself which I’ve had to learn for regrading the prequels, but having the real thing will always be better.

Hence, I’m definitely waiting for the 4K Blu-rays to work with for my prequel regrades.

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#1305509
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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So I got Disney+ today and I scrolled through the prequels and they don’t look too much different to my eyes at first. TPM would still be the best looking prequel if it wasn’t for the heavy DNR. AOTC still seems to have that DNR like the blu-ray which scrubs detail away too although the colors do look somewhere between the theatrical and blu-ray. ROTS is still really the only one that looks correct to it’s theatrical presentation. Either way all these films need heavy regrading to look as good as the newer ST movies, not to mention image enhancement techniques to resolve issues related to older digital equipment.

I was watching in 1080p on my Macbook Pro. I’ll have to go back later to see what it looks like in 4K HDR to see if the upscales and HDR grading are decent.

Honestly tho in terms of fine detail research, I’ll be waiting for the UHD Blu-rays.

I also scrolled through ANH, and while the grade is much better than the blu-ray, it still doesn’t look right to my eyes. Too dark and dull. The color pallete is mostly pleasing. I still think Adywan’s regrade of the blu-ray for ANH:R HD looks the best, albeit with the noise and banding issues of the old transfer. The new transfer definitely has smoother gradients and less noise, as well as more fine detail. I’m hoping Ady considers using these as the basis for Revisited, as they have the superior color resolution similar to 4K77 but the fine detail of being sourced from the negative. Mike Verta’s work tho is still my favorite when it comes to restoring the original colors, tho I’d rather the film look it’s best than be pure to the theatrical experience. (although ideally we should have both)

I’ll take a look at ESB and ROTJ hopefully tomorrow.

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#1305158
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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FreezingTNT2 said:

emanswfan said:

Adywan is definitely not doing anything more than 720p for his edits still, but I’m planning on creating 4K versions of Revisited via AI upscaling along with a 10 bit upsampled HDR color grade.

I would love to see Harmy do 4K Despecialized however if he’s up to it. Although I’m still wondering about if the detail level is really greater in these new 4K masters.

Which ANH:R are you going to be doing? The original ANH:R, or ANH:R HD?

I’m waiting for ANH:R HD, in fact I’m waiting for the BD-25 releases of all three HD Revisited edits because of the higher bit rate. I will post some example screenshots and clips tho for ESB:R based off the MKV.

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#1304832
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Adywan is definitely not doing anything more than 720p for his edits still, but I’m planning on creating 4K versions of Revisited via AI upscaling along with a 10 bit upsampled HDR color grade.

I would love to see Harmy do 4K Despecialized however if he’s up to it. Although I’m still wondering about if the detail level is really greater in these new 4K masters.

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#1303090
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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The Seuqel trilogy movies from a directing, dialogue, and cinematography standpoint are much better than the prequels. But like the plots are just so much better with the prequels.

Take the plots of the Prequels and put them with competent writers and directors, and you’d have some damn good Star Wars movies.

I’m sure I’ll enjoy TROS, but the plot just sounds bad.

And I’m sure I’ll guiltily enjoy seeing Palpatine again, but when I really think about it, it just makes me feel like someone took a big crap on ROTJ.

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#1302850
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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I just watched the recent The Wizard of Oz and The Shining 4K Blu-rays this past weekend and may I say they look absolutely stunning and the best I’ve seen of older movies on the format.

Shame Star Wars will probably never get that kind of quality treatment.

(Only thing about The Shining is I wish the aspect ratio wasn’t messed up. I’d like to see both the original 1.85 and the open 1.33. If I remember correctly the new release is 1.78 cropped from the 1.85.)

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#1302644
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series : <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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Here’s the new trailer!

https://youtu.be/XmI7WKrAtqs

Definitely looks more like Rogue One in terms of cinematography, which is the best looking SW film IMO. It’s like a hyper-realistic OT, kinda like how it was for me watching the OT when I was a toddler.

Still nothing much to go off of story wise, but definitely seems more grounded and original than TROS.

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#1301568
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Yoda: CGI vs Puppet
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That looks amazing! Just the Yoda I remember.

Still can’t figure out why Yoda looks off in TLJ, don’t know how they screwed that up.

I still eagerly wish to see what OT yoda would look like in the PT, or PT yoda look like in the OT. I just wish we could have a consistent yoda.

JEDIT: Someone should try and deepfake OT Yoda onto PT yoda or vise versa. That would be interesting.