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#1305928
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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As someone that’s worked with the 4K Blu-ray of Solo, yes you can get a 10 bit flat image. It allows for a ton more flexibility in grading. There are ways of chroma upsampling and flattening footage yourself which I’ve had to learn for regrading the prequels, but having the real thing will always be better.

Hence, I’m definitely waiting for the 4K Blu-rays to work with for my prequel regrades.

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#1305509
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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So I got Disney+ today and I scrolled through the prequels and they don’t look too much different to my eyes at first. TPM would still be the best looking prequel if it wasn’t for the heavy DNR. AOTC still seems to have that DNR like the blu-ray which scrubs detail away too although the colors do look somewhere between the theatrical and blu-ray. ROTS is still really the only one that looks correct to it’s theatrical presentation. Either way all these films need heavy regrading to look as good as the newer ST movies, not to mention image enhancement techniques to resolve issues related to older digital equipment.

I was watching in 1080p on my Macbook Pro. I’ll have to go back later to see what it looks like in 4K HDR to see if the upscales and HDR grading are decent.

Honestly tho in terms of fine detail research, I’ll be waiting for the UHD Blu-rays.

I also scrolled through ANH, and while the grade is much better than the blu-ray, it still doesn’t look right to my eyes. Too dark and dull. The color pallete is mostly pleasing. I still think Adywan’s regrade of the blu-ray for ANH:R HD looks the best, albeit with the noise and banding issues of the old transfer. The new transfer definitely has smoother gradients and less noise, as well as more fine detail. I’m hoping Ady considers using these as the basis for Revisited, as they have the superior color resolution similar to 4K77 but the fine detail of being sourced from the negative. Mike Verta’s work tho is still my favorite when it comes to restoring the original colors, tho I’d rather the film look it’s best than be pure to the theatrical experience. (although ideally we should have both)

I’ll take a look at ESB and ROTJ hopefully tomorrow.

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#1305158
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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FreezingTNT2 said:

emanswfan said:

Adywan is definitely not doing anything more than 720p for his edits still, but I’m planning on creating 4K versions of Revisited via AI upscaling along with a 10 bit upsampled HDR color grade.

I would love to see Harmy do 4K Despecialized however if he’s up to it. Although I’m still wondering about if the detail level is really greater in these new 4K masters.

Which ANH:R are you going to be doing? The original ANH:R, or ANH:R HD?

I’m waiting for ANH:R HD, in fact I’m waiting for the BD-25 releases of all three HD Revisited edits because of the higher bit rate. I will post some example screenshots and clips tho for ESB:R based off the MKV.

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#1304832
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Adywan is definitely not doing anything more than 720p for his edits still, but I’m planning on creating 4K versions of Revisited via AI upscaling along with a 10 bit upsampled HDR color grade.

I would love to see Harmy do 4K Despecialized however if he’s up to it. Although I’m still wondering about if the detail level is really greater in these new 4K masters.

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#1303090
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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The Seuqel trilogy movies from a directing, dialogue, and cinematography standpoint are much better than the prequels. But like the plots are just so much better with the prequels.

Take the plots of the Prequels and put them with competent writers and directors, and you’d have some damn good Star Wars movies.

I’m sure I’ll enjoy TROS, but the plot just sounds bad.

And I’m sure I’ll guiltily enjoy seeing Palpatine again, but when I really think about it, it just makes me feel like someone took a big crap on ROTJ.

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#1302850
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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I just watched the recent The Wizard of Oz and The Shining 4K Blu-rays this past weekend and may I say they look absolutely stunning and the best I’ve seen of older movies on the format.

Shame Star Wars will probably never get that kind of quality treatment.

(Only thing about The Shining is I wish the aspect ratio wasn’t messed up. I’d like to see both the original 1.85 and the open 1.33. If I remember correctly the new release is 1.78 cropped from the 1.85.)

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#1302644
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series : <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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Here’s the new trailer!

https://youtu.be/XmI7WKrAtqs

Definitely looks more like Rogue One in terms of cinematography, which is the best looking SW film IMO. It’s like a hyper-realistic OT, kinda like how it was for me watching the OT when I was a toddler.

Still nothing much to go off of story wise, but definitely seems more grounded and original than TROS.

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#1301568
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Yoda: CGI vs Puppet
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That looks amazing! Just the Yoda I remember.

Still can’t figure out why Yoda looks off in TLJ, don’t know how they screwed that up.

I still eagerly wish to see what OT yoda would look like in the PT, or PT yoda look like in the OT. I just wish we could have a consistent yoda.

JEDIT: Someone should try and deepfake OT Yoda onto PT yoda or vise versa. That would be interesting.

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#1299645
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I read up on the remainder of the plot spoilers and I can say that it sounds pretty JJ Abrams on paper, but it’s definitely impossible to gain any sense of quality without seeing the execution.

Still shocked they revealed Palpatine was officially in the film, but maybe they just figured they’d do it cuz it would’ve leaked anyway.

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#1297937
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Was reading some pretty detailed leaks about the plot today and for better or worse this very much sounds like a JJ Abrams movie. I’m excited to see it on screen. Still haven’t seen much on the third act but it seems it won’t be long till that’s up online too.

I’m happy with what has been described of Leia’s role, seems like it will be the best they can do given they have to recycle old footage.

If JJ can nail the feeling of TFA, respect what was built up in TLJ, and create a truly original plot than I think I’ll be pretty happy.

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#1297847
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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So something I still need to figure out is the source for TPM. I was planning on the blu-ray, but with schorman’s updated HDTV preservations coming out I’m debating about using that as the source. I’ll be comparing them and seeing what works better and share some results.

If any of you have any wishes, opinions, or ideas regarding TPM (or the other two for that matter), I’d very much appreciate the extra discussion.

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#1297745
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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Thanks for the references. I’ll make some comparison shots of those shots with two grades: my current and a theatre print accurate version. It definitely sounds like people are interested in versions with colors accurate to the theatre prints, so I really think I should release those as soon as I can, as those can be achieved with the same grade applied across the entirety of a film. So likely there could be three versions of this project: 4K theatrical 35mm colors recreation, 4K filmized singular grade, 4K filmized shot-by-shot grade.

I’ve been away from my personal computer for a month and a half due to health issues, but I should be returning home in about 2 weeks. Though as I’ve said before, I can really only make small clips and screenshots until I can purchase or build myself a new computer since my deaktop broke down last year. I’m also still heavily interested in potential official 4K releases, though I’m quite worried they’ll still be screwed up.

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#1296543
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I’d agree that deepfaking fake wedge would be great, though I’m not familiar enough with the process to know how much work that would be. I’ve seen a lot of impressive deepfake videos but most still have noticeable artifacting, so I would only say it would be good if it can be done to a certain level of quality.

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#1290832
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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Just saw Once Upon A Time in Hollywood in 35mm this past weekend, and it was a really nice reminder to see how a modern 35mm print should look.

It’s given me a better idea of the look of modern film, and I’m confident I can truly master something close to that. What I do really struggle with is creating an authentic older look from the 60’s, 70’s, or 80’s. When I research for recommendations regarding emulating older stocks, there’s not much to find.

Also it seems that the projection I saw has more flicker, a softer look, and a warmer appearance especially in the skin tones.

Also here’s two more sources I’m wanting to use as reference. They have a very pure film look, something I want to strive more for. Even many movies shot on film today overdo it with the digital color grading that it ends up looking too similar to digital.

https://vimeo.com/330846860

https://vimeo.com/343111010

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#1290446
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Gigapixel AI vs. infognition Super Resolution or What to use to upscale SD to HD or 4K
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TomArrow said:

I’ve been recommended by a smart dude something that may be even better: ESRGAN/BasicSR. It’s an AI-upscaling algorithm just like Gigapixel, but you can train it with your own datasets, so if you have a representative dataset of what you’re trying to upscale (you need high res and low res reference for training), you can get really incredible results.

I’m currently playing around with it, and while training is very slow (we’re talking many days), it’s impressive what it can do imo.

I’ve tried some pre-trained ESRGAN upscalers, and I’d say it is a more natural looking upscale than ai gigapixel, but I’d still say ai gigapixel wins in the detail, even if it looks a bit too sharp. And I’d still say in terms of noise reduction ai gigapixel and waifu2x are better at removing compression artifacts. Of course waifu2x doesn’t try and add or recover detail, but simply a high resolution upscale that retains all the original detail.

All three are really good tbh, and all have their purposes. I’d say a mix of them is ideal.

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#1290400
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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I turned down the denoising setting from full to half in gigapixel, and this is what I get. It seems full does smudge some fine detail, but no denoising keeps those hideous compression artifacts in, so this might be a better balance. Either way you can definately see the big difference that the software does to take highly compressed 1080p and transform it to uncompressed 4k.

https://i.lensdump.com/i/WarWqo.png