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#1330753
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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Apparently people are saying the bonus content is the same as the previous 1080p digital releases, though I’ve yet to see this confirmed completely anywhere.

If that’s really the case…like what the hell Disney? You’ve got so much behind the scenes footage as well as so many alternate takes and deleted scenes. You’d expect something far better for what’s supposedly the end of the original saga.

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#1330750
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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Tantive3+1 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnhqwRQf04A&feature=youtu.be

Gosh, even for virtually no color correction, that’s a beauty.

I’ll be honest, TPM is the hardest one to work on.

Also, while I did get a new job, it’s on hold due to the pandemic, but rest assured as soon as I start having more income I will be saving up for a new machine with which I can actually get decent rendering speeds.

In the meantime, I will still be doing preliminary SDR grades as soon as I get a hold of the new 4K discs.

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#1327285
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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Considering I am doing prequel edits and regrades, I have no choice but to get this boxset. Also, I feel like we will see a 4K OOT fan restoration mixing in appropriate elemnts from 4K77/4k80/4K83 in with these official 4K versions. Also Adywan said ROTJ:R would be sourced off the new 4K version.

I think I’d love to do my own 4K version of SW/ANH with a modern grade and certain elements of the original versions from the 4K77 scan. I would also make the HDR have greater dynamic range, they are too dim compared to the ST HDR grades.

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#1326498
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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Fated-Dualist said:

Skywalker Saga Boxset - Disney Star Wars 4K is a ZERO Sum Game’:-

Star Wars on Disney 4K in a huge box? Is it worth it? Find out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TE5OTopl5A - on the RetroBlasting YouTube channel. (5 mins long)
 

Some decent information on the boxset - and a reminder of the quality and limitations on offer in it.
 

Nope, there is a lot of misinformation in that video not to mention how he’s so rude. The biggest one being is that all three movies of the ST are in native 4k.

More details here about the rest of the set:
https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/022120-1130
https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/111519-1700

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#1326126
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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MaestroDavros said:

Looks lovely!

Emanswfan are you planning on varying the emulated stocks based on their intended use conditions (daylight stocks vs artificial lighting stocks, etc.) or just one blanket stock across the whole film? Just curious.

In an eventual scene by scene or even shot by shot grade, stocks will be different depending on the case.

This is actually exactly why creating one grade for the whole movie for any of them hasn’t worked well, but I still want to do that as to get a version that maintains the relative color timing.

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#1326005
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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Forgive the compression artifacts given this is from the Disney+ version. This is with AI Sharpen, a HDR to SDR conversion, Kodak 5219 emulation, and some custom grading. This is what I would say would be a vivid modern film look grade option without film grain.

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Trying to mess around with the Disney+ versions at least a little until the physical 4K discs come out.

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#1325972
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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I’m going to be trying out the new video AI upscaler from TOPAZ sometime soon and I’ll let you all know how the results turn out. It definitely seems more efficient of rendering time, but from what I’ve seen it seems like the neural network isn’t as experienced as the one for the main gigapixel, but of course I can’t be sure until I try it. Theoretically it could be better if it is able to extract extra detail by analyzing motion across multiple frames, but I’m not sure it really does much of that.

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#1325971
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The Phantom Menace - Theatrical version scanned in 4K (a WIP)
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A full 4k scan of a 35mm print of TPM would be perfect for my PT color grading project. I’m very much looking forward to this. It would work as just the right color reference for regrading the new 4K master, which I believe is just the same colors as the blu-ray but in 10 bit HDR.

Meanwhile the new 4K versions of AOTC and ROTS are accurate colors to the original 2K DCP’s, with the exception of it now being 10 bit HDR, and it’s easy enough to throw on a print emulation lut of the correct stock onto those to create 35mm print accurate colors of those. Still it would help to have 4K scans of 35mm prints anyhow just to make sure that I can tweak the emulation just right to match.

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#1321221
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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I’m thinking when the 4K discs come out, I can create essential versions of this project that would try best to recreate the look of their theatrical prints, and I would likely list these as a separate project.

The grades would be blanket and be in SDR, but still 4K. No AI sharpening will be done to the footage, and neither will upscaled deleted scenes be included.

This will simply emulate the Kodak print stocks and accompanying grain.

This will not be replacements for the full blown editions, but will help at least have more pleasing versions to view and base fan edits off until I one day get this massive project complete.

Are people here interested?

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#1320356
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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You can batch process it in photoshop using the plugin version, but Topaz did say they may be adding batch processing directly in the app at some point this year.

So likely I will plan out the rough plan for grading each film and then move on to sharpening all the shots. From there I will do the shot by shot color grade followed by film grain application.

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#1320230
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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For now, I’ve just been using the standard AI Gigapixel as I do many of my tests based on lossless screenshots to save unnecessary rendering times, but I’ll be working on using the video edition as soon as I can get windows up and running again on my laptop.

Standard AI Gigapixel doesn’t produce bad artifacts in motion from what I’ve tested but the advantage the video version is that it takes multiple frames into account and is able to recover more true detail via the motion.

I still have to test for motion consistency in Sharpen AI on video as that is what I will be using for creating the appearance of native 4K from the official 4K upscales of the PT coming in a few months.

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#1319667
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Hmm, that doesn’t really seem to follow the idea that Ep IX was supposed to be Leia’s movie, as TFA’s was Han’s, and TLJ was Luke’s. Makes me doubt its legitimacy.

While the plot sounds more interesting and respectful of TLJ, it’s impossible to make a judgement without reading it directly. Some of the best movies have the worst plots, and vice versa.

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#1316893
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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So while I wait for the 4K blu-rays to release, I’m going to go back and rework the deleted scenes from the DVD releases. So you can look forward to screenshots from those in the coming weeks.

Unfortunately though, I think it will be a while till I can get a new Desktop setup for this project. While I can generate previews and do tests on my laptop, it’s not really feasible to actually complete this project entirely on there. But I’ll be doing some research and hopefully I can build a new PC at some point in this new year.

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#1315567
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan (a WIP)
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So I’ve been looking at the new 10 bit 4K releases on Disney+ and given that these will release on 4K Bluray this Spring, this will be the new source to use likely. The extra bit depth and flatter image (when HDR is not applied), will be incredibly useful when it comes to allowing for strong regrading. Unfortunately there is still DNR with TPM and AOTC to deal with, but from my analysis, the pros outway the cons.

In terms of the whole AI upscaling, I am instead going to be using AI sharpening. I’ve tested Topaz Sharpen AI on several 4K Blu-rays that are upscales from 2K DI’s, and it does a fantastic job at adding detail to the already upscaled image.

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#1312164
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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I’ll hopefully be seeing this tonight with my girlfriend. My expectations are quite low, but I’m sure I’ll enjoy it a lot even if it is a complete mess. JJ movies are always fun, but they never hold up to much scrutiny.

TFA was a nostalgia trip, TLJ was the most original SW movie since ESB, RO was a hyper-realistic portrayal of SW77, and Solo was a low stakes adventure. They’ve all offered something enjoyable even if they have all had their issues.