doubleofive

I started work on Version 2.0 of Return of the Jedi! I have GOUT, 4K83, 19SE, 11SE, 04SE, and 97SE frame synchronized in Premiere Pro, a much better setup than just having the WookieeGroomer splitscreen I made the originals with.

I started with Jedi Rocks, which I’ve already released as a preview to how 2.0 will look.

4K83 (1080p) and 19SE Blu-ray are the base sources now, and they come out in Full HD PNG files. I’m very pleased with the things I’ve already discovered and my new way of tracking and logging changes shot by shot!

Put together a gallery of shots that just aren’t in the current versions:

https://starwarsviscomp.com/2021/02/27/the-lost-art-of-star-wars/

I also bought a few URLs:

www.starwarsviscomp.com goes to the site
www.releasetheoriginaltrilogy.com goes to my “What We Want” article
www.starwars77.com forwards to the WIRED article

jarbear said:

This is really great, I can’t believe I missed your post about the drive. I was more than happy to chip in.

I look forward to your edits.

All of Adywan’s update posts are also shared on the Wordpress in my signature, so people can keep up!

It was williarob, not poita, my bad.

It’s over on the 4K77 forums.

Mike O said:

Is the leaked X-Box version just the N64 game re-skinned?

Pretty much, yeah. It was going to be like Halo Anniversary, where you could switch back and forth between graphics on the fly.

I’m not sure 97SE was ever shown in HD, but you’re right the 04SE was and that should be the highest quality version that I’m sure someone has on a hard drive somewhere.

Handman said:

Last I heard, he has a YouTube channel and is doing well.

Indeed, he is doing well.

Are you offering to host one? Do you work for Lucasfilm?

I don’t believe the list of cuts were ever preserved. I imagine it was more a list of things the characters “wouldn’t” do, not a list of scenes to cut. He was the kind of guy who would want a ground-up rewrite on things he didn’t like.

Fang Zei said:

This actually brings me to something I was going to bring up earlier. We live in a post-#ReleaseTheSnyderCut world now, where something that no reasonable person thought would ever happen is now being financed to the tune of $70 million. The studios are all looking for ways to make money on the cheap with their business disrupted due to the current unpleasantness, and an OOT restoration would cost a small fraction of what AT&T is spending to finish the Snyder Cut.

Bingo. Nothing is impossible. #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy

All three ended up with shots and scenes not in the original films, and while folks can argue those changes involved aspects of the movies that Lucas had a problem with, many of them also conveniently line up with techniques that could be useful for the prequels.

And I’m watching the version where instead of focusing on the ghosts appearing for a few seconds and greeting one another, then Leia comes to get Luke, who winks at them as he leaves to rejoin his family, it’s the one where they focus on the ghosts, have Leia walk up, come back to the ghosts greeting one another, then comes back to Luke as he’s walking away. It cuts out the moments where Luke turns away from the party, where Leia has time to walk slowly up to Luke, where Luke winks at the ghosts. All of the little poignant moments are gone in favor of moving the film faster to the end. It’s very evident in splitscreen.

I may have been a little hyperbolic in my description, but I felt like attention needed to be brought that it’s not just the new planets, the entire ending is redone.

People remembering that fan edits don’t have to be canon? Is this still OT?

BedeHistory731 said:

doubleofive said:

KurganX said:

If adywan isn’t incorporating Rogue One into his edits, is he going to incorporate The Mandalorian?

I don’t care either way, just curious…

What would he incorporate?

Boba Fett not dying?

Oh yeah, not that Adywan needs to change things to match, but to NOT change things he already has planned. I see now.

KurganX said:

If adywan isn’t incorporating Rogue One into his edits, is he going to incorporate The Mandalorian?

I don’t care either way, just curious…

What would he incorporate?

As I’m only a visual changes guy, I’ve never noticed the 04SE voice change.

Harmy posted a new video of him recreating frames from scratch for ESB DeEd v3!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ-7pAf69j4

Yes, the 1997 Special Edition credits are the only credits now.

Nilbog said:

I figure ESB has the fewest amount of restored shots of the OT.

Depends on if you count every shot of the Battle of Hoth.

KurganX said:

Good to know! I appreciate somebody else checking this with me…

Which version is that above (the lower image), btw?

If the credits really are unchanged since 1997 (even on Disney+) that is as it should be, in my mind.

Right, the bottom is 97+.

David Prowse has never been left out of the credits.

The only change to any credit near him was adding JEJ in 1997. The credits have not been touched since 1997; Jason Wingreen, Clive Revill, they’re all still credited. No one who worked on any version since then is credited.

I mean, isn’t that’s why they call it “Legends”? Like the point is LFL officially saying “this may have happened, it’s up to you”. I’m not against them publishing New Legends books because the average fan doesn’t read the books anyway, but it makes sense for them to just keep in the New Canon timeline.

Hell, think of it like Star Trek and the Kelvin Timeline. Legends is a parallel timeline.

This is why I think that an interpositive or uncirculated print is probably the best way to get the actual OOT at this point. I would be afraid any rebuild would have too many modern strokes (don’t forget that every wipe in ANH and ESB was redone for the SE), or present the temptation to clean this or that.

jedi_bendu said:

In an seriousness, I disagree with the change but I do understand George’s motivation behind it. He didn’t want Han’s easiness around shooting because he felt threatened to be considered ‘cool’ or whatever

I just don’t understand how having them shoot a half second apart (then a quarter second, then a twelfth second, then at the same time) changes anything about Han’s appearance or motivation. Han still puts his foot up to block Greedo’s view. Han still plays with the wall to draw Greedo’s attention away. Han still pulls his gun out of his holster and change his entire mood once he has it out. He’s not doing any of that “just in case”.

If Lucas wanted to re-edit the meaning of the scene, he should have re-edited the entire scene. The single (now two) added shot changes less than nothing.

I think it is.