I assumed that hard-edged Jyn seen in the trailers and the novelization (from what I hear) was cut out during previews as being less likable, but it says in the article that they didn’t have previews. They just had second thoughts and replaced that character somehow.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet but the colour correction for the snow on Hoth was a good addition, it actually looks like snow now.
looks outside
My eyes need color correcting then.
JEDIT:
I should probably take off my Blublockers.
- The film originally went directly from young Jyn being rescued by Saw to Jyn being taken before the Rebels to be sent to Jedha, with no introductory scene for Cassian and no rescue on Wobani.
The article says that the next time we see Jyn was at her interrogation, not necessarily that it was the next scene. There could have been other scenes before then, but not her flashback with Saw (Young Jyn vs Younger Jyn), of course.
Emphasis mine:
Yahoo Movies: How did the reshoots change the film?
John Gilroy: They gave you the film that you see today. I think they were incredibly helpful. The story was reconceptualised to some degree, there were scenes that were added at the beginning and fleshed out. We wanted to make more of the other characters, like Cassian’s character [Cassian Andor, the Rebel spy played by Diego Luna], and Bodhi’s character [Bodhi Rook, the defected Imperial pilot played by Riz Ahmed].
The scene with Cassian’s introduction with the spy, Bodhi traipsing through Jedha on his way to see Saw, these are things that were added. Also Jyn [Jyn Erso, the reluctant leader of the film, played by Felicity Jones], how we set her up and her escape from the transporter, that was all done to set up the story better.
Of course, things like that have a ripple effect all through the movie so there was a lot of work to do, and as Colin said, there were three of us, we rolled up our sleeves and we got to work and made the movie you see.
Colin Goudie: It was like life imitating art. Let’s get a band of people and put them together on this secret mission and that’s what’s happening in the film but that’s also what was happening editorially.
We were all jumping in and taking part in the mission and pulling that master switch. It was a bit like that really.
John Gilroy: I don’t know who’s Jyn or who’s Cassian, but it’s a good analogy, I like that analogy.
Colin Goudie: All we need is the blind monk and I think we’re good to go. A blind editor doesn’t sound so good though.
The point with the opening scenes that John was just describing was that the introductions in the opening scene, in the prologue, was always the same. Jyn’s just a little girl, so when you see her as an adult what you saw initially was her in a meeting. That’s not a nice introduction.
So having her in prison and then a prison break out, with Cassian on a mission… everybody was a bit more ballsy, or a bit more exciting, and a bit more interesting.
They got there eventually in the film, but this way we came in on the ground running, which was better.
John Gilroy: It became very important to plant the seeds the right way, you’ve got to set up the movie the right way, and then things pay off in the second and third acts.
Yahoo Movies: How much of the film’s final third changed?
John Gilroy: It changed quite a bit. The third act has a lot going on. You have like seven different action venues, the mechanics of the act changed quite a bit in terms of the characters, and I don’t want to go into too much detail about what had been there before, but it was different.
We moved some of the things that our heroes did, they were different in the original then they were as it was conceived.
Because you needed to figure that out, and everything else changes. Everything was connected to everything so doing something to one venue would change all the other venues, so really we had to… we were working on that until the last minute, because we working closely with ILM, they were giving us temporary shots and we’d put them in, we’d work them, we’d reconceive again.
It was really like a very tight puzzle and we had to keep honing that and honing that, and I’m very proud of what we did there.
Yahoo Movies: Did you face any continuity issues blending the new stuff with the old stuff?
John Gilroy: That’s mostly a production issue. The whole thing on a ‘Star Wars’ movie you have such professionalism at every level. Everybody that’s working on the movie is just at the top of their game so that wasn’t so hard for us.
Answers?
Can’t you just make your own Hawking dialog?
The rumor is about cartoon characters helping with the project. I don’t even understand how that could be taken seriously. That’s why I didn’t immediately shut it down.
adywan or 005 am i wrong or does the scene in rebels where vader talks to the emperor and he says such as kenobi. does that contradict a new hope? because it seems in a new hope he’s more of an annoyance then a person he’s after for revenge. is there anyway to fix this in you edit?
Did you just ask if Adywan would fix Rebels? What are you talking about?
😉
A quick addition to the building Vader scene.
You done good.
TV’s Drink should be a cocktail.
Something bitter, but also sweet. With some carbonated mixer to tickle.
I’m not in love with Frink, you are.
If her role and performance in Ep 8 will be as unimpressive as it was in TFA, Star Wars should be moving forward normally.
Now this is too soon. For a supposed perfect being, you sure do say a lot of shitty things.
Was he talking about Carrie Fisher or her daughter, Billie Lourd?
He was talking about Fisher.
I am very curious what you make of it Ady?
I trust your opinion as a good one. I am interested in what you think about it? And I know it won’t be some slanderous bore.
But when you are ready… I really want to know what you think.
Shhh, let him work on Revisited, not writing a review. 😉
(He loved it.)
I like Prometheus, and I liked Agent9’s fanedit of it.
Maybe I need to see this edit, because sweet lord, I did not like it. But then watching the edit would require me to buy it. Oh noooooo
Another person who hated TFA also hates R1? yawn
Wake me up when something new happens.
Alien: Covenant already looks to have all of Prometheus’ problems. Why are all these scientist/explorers going into the unknown without protective suits? The trailer shows that they get infected by something bad through their unprotected ears and then cuts to people saying “we have no idea what’s out there.” Stupid.
Because the air is breathable? Why would you need a protective suit if you can breathe the air? It’s not like there could be untraceable alien toxins! Wait…
Maybe because no one survived the Prometheus mission, so they couldn’t phone home and say “People should probably keep their suits on, just so you know.” People who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
But seriously, I’m still not sold on AC. That teaser poster got me excited, but the trailer makes it look like a mashup of Prometheus and Alien and do we really need that?
Someone hasn’t seen The Nice Guys… Gosling was great in that!
From the article:
Instead, it has a 92-percent favorable score on Rotten Tomatoes. That’s crud! The Nice Guys is not 92-percent good! It’s like 70-percent good. Maybe less!
That’s not how Rotten Tomato scores work, buddy. I believe this is a troll post, especially judging by another one of his articles “Ryan Gosling Is Not All That Good Looking, IMO”
I forgot to add myself to the La La Land praise train. It’s extraordinary.
Frink, don’t listen to that article, it’s apparently written by some fuddy duddy who is judging a film because he thinks it will win awards because it has Ryan Gosling in it? Maybe Gosling knows how to pick good movies, it certainly seems that way.
Did you know they made a board game this year based on it?
I didn’t. It kept popping up as I was googling strategies for the PC game, but due to the generic name I just assumed it was unrelated. It actually looks quite interesting. It’s far too expensive for me though, so I’ll stick to the PC version for now. (I’m also assuming that the board game is very PT-influenced?)
Looks like Rebels vs Empire. Maybe some prequel planet names.
Did you know they made a board game this year based on it?
I wonder why they cut the scene of the tie fighter rising to meet Jyn on the comm tower? It was the most dramatic visual in all the trailers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNt40ufs-M8&t=32m17s
The TIE fighter rose up and was about to shoot Jyn but an X-Wing swooped in and destryoed it last second. Since the filmmakers felt like it was too repetitive with the AT-AT moment that happened minutes earlier, they decided to cut the sequence from the scene.
In hindsight, I’m actually happy they decided to cut it.
Where did that guy hear that? Reliable sources I’m familiar with have stated that was just a test effects shot that marketing decided to use.
He says it like fact, but quotes no sources. I call shenanigans.
You need to wait until its almost to the next page before you start trying to get the thread buried.
PASSENGERS
Wow…Wow.
Loved the world building. Performances were spot-on for the plot. Well directed.
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By sheer co-inky-dink, this production is P-R-E-C-I-S-E-L-Y what one would expect in a psy-op directed at those with critically needed technical skills and their “rewards” for good behavior. It touches all the bases. Their specialists need to become PURE EVIL. Everybody has the biometrics and lists of crimes of the elites and their tools. The guilty will be exposed after the culling. Satan’s is a kingdom divided. They can’t have their vitally necessary personnel joining forces or forming Master-Blaster arrangements with the outside survivors to avenge their families and friends and neighbors. The necessaries also need to believe, with Orwellian Doublethink, that this can all work out well in the end for them. Minorities need to imagine that they could take the deal, so long as they get in healthy. The sex slaves need to learn to take the zombie enslavement “medication” and just accept the deal. The less than critical tools must believe that they might get golden tickets and never realize that the Platinum and Diamond tickets will be for criticals, elites, and the prettiest of little TEA party children. Gold ticket holders and their families will be “processed” by the UN peacekeeper Jihadies guarding the outer perimeter. Above all, ‘White Heterosexual Protestant Male’ must be seen as responsible for everything.
Silly question, would they ever, in a million years, have portrayed an obviously secular Jewish male, or a bisexual Catholic doing anything remotely as despicable? I was wondering, apart from the money, why Pratt would participate in such an intense demonization of white protestant heterosexuals… then a saw a montage of his movie promotions.
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The passage by the red star was spectacular. Wow…Just wow…
What the actual f. All this from a story celebrating Stockholm Syndrome.
Maybe some of us are a bit more forgiving because we watch the cartoons, where everyone looks and sounds different but we’re used to justifying to ourselves that they’re the same character.
SeeSo is supposed to have every episode of SNL, so I imagine its on there somewhere.