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- Definitive VIDEO Guide to Star Wars Changes (WIP; FEEDBACK WANTED)
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Nevermind.
Nevermind.
Watched the Pre-SE changes, which is not my speciality, of course.
I’d never noticed the 1981 starfield is the ESB one (since I don’t compare the movies to each other often)! I’ve marked it in my V1 album so I can be sure to speak more on it in ANH V2.5 (which would cover pre-19 changes/unchanges).
Somehow it’d be great if you could explain that adding the EPISODE IV title ruins the flow of the crawl. The movements of the opening theme were scored by Williams to match the appearance of the paragraphs in the original release, but now it’s just garbled. Of course, none of the other movies sync the paragraphs to the music, so it’s kind of setting a precedence.
Other than that, I think it’s great and I learned a lot!
Oh, I love using the “One Last Time” as a transition, you should make a point in the 97SE video that they’re ONLY talking about ANH, which was the original plan. The 97SE of the sequels were done at almost the last minute by a self-admitted “C Team” with much less resources and budget than ANH.
I’ll check it out and give any notes I have!
I bought the 4K set of 1-4 sight unseen and it should be here on release day. So hopefully it is just the movies given a new scan, i don’t want any Lucas/Cameron level tinkering. Its bad enough already the stereo mixes of the films are being left off but a isolated score track will be on there.
If you look at my galleries in the post above, you’ll see exactly what you’re going to be getting. And only TMP gets an isolated score.
The cost of scanning wouldn’t be prohibitive, and they could be digitally composited now and printed back out to film, but this is Paramount we’re talking about.
As long as they did this for The Director’s Edition. No one should recomposite the theatrical cut, that’s a slippery slope we’re already going down, thanks to someone at Paramount just doing their own thing from what it looks like.
Here are my VisComp Galleries:
The Motion Picture: Theatrical
The Search for Spock / The Voyage Home
hot noodles over on the TN1 forums has discovered that they have added flashes to 19SE to cover the bendy blades.
There may be more flashes added.
Yeah, I can’t even begin to figure out how to log power windows or the slight movements added to the camera sometimes.
Yeah, they’re mixed in there. The only one not on the list I can think of off the top of my head is they shittily made the speederbike that gets roped into the tree glow, but that’s in the images.
The links to The Digital Bits contains most/all of the 19SE-only changes, and I summarized some of them here: https://starwarsviscomp.wordpress.com/versions/19se/
Thanks @Jarbear. I managed to unpack the first part but others keep failing. Gonna try to redownloading them.
Opening looks incredible!!!
You do have to wait for them all to be downloaded before you unpack them!
The iTunes copy of “The Motion Picture” is now the new master, and there are shoddy fixes done to some of the VFX mistakes. This is outside of The Director’s Edition, this is obviously just the cleanup team trying to patch things.
RotJR is not done, nor is the 1080p upscale for ESBR or ANHR rebuild. There’s a lot to look forward to!
I’m helping Adywan update the ways to get Revisited.
He found a shot in the film that looked like it could be the same shot if it was from another angle.
I believe Adywan did a study and found a shot from him making similar expressions from a different angle. We don’t know of a reshoot filmed specifically for that shot, so I just stick with that theory.
There is one complaint i have however once again the theatrical stereo mixes are being left off, i’m also sure others will complain that the audio is dolbytrue 7.1 instead of Atmos. Which is weird since the directors cut of TMP will be in Atmos.
Well, TMPDE has a steward guiding the rebuild, the others are just studio output.
I’m cautiously optimistic about the restoration of the Theatrical Cut of Star Trek I, III and IV that are going to be released in September. In the 1-4 4K set, or Blu-Ray sets.
No Star Trek VI though which really needed to be restored.
The theory is we’ll get that 1-4 set (Enterprise Refit), then a 5-7 set (Enterprises A-D), then a 8-10 set (Enterprise E), split them up into more affordable chunks instead of a 20 disc $300 ultra set.
And now I have the idea for my custom cases for each set…
Paramount and Paramount+ are excited to announce that a full restoration of the Director’s Edition of Star Trek: The Motion Picture has been greenlit.
The restoration will be undertaken by producer David C. Fein, restoration supervisor Mike Matessino, and visual effects supervisor Daren R. Dochterman, all of whom worked previously with director Robert Wise.
The film will be prepared for presentation in 4K Ultra HD with Dolby Vision™ high dynamic range (HDR) and a new Dolby Atmos® soundtrack. The restoration is expected to take 6-8 months and will launch with an exclusive window on Paramount+.
Gang, you have to trust me, this is one to keep your eye on. To help you focus your eye, I started another VisComp: https://twitter.com/startrekviscomp
I haven’t done a 100% frame-accurate comparison yet, but here’s a rough GIF:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YPe6ECy_GcIh_8rCtbD9obG0SZum7jiu/view?usp=sharing
Yeah, I don’t think petitions will help, especially since there’s so many out there. Mostly what we need is POSTIVITY. People running around being negative about it is going to kill everyone’s buzz. We need people to be EXCITED about the possibilities.
I think it’s people speaking up on social media that moves the needle nowadays. Unless someone proves otherwise, I’m going to continue shouting over there.
#ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy
The Leia being freed by R2 screen shot from 4k83 (showprint A scan) has damage but the new scan of Jedi Showprint B does not have the same damage. Probably print specific degredation / vinegar syndrome.
Don’t think it is a reason for the 2004 removal decision.
The damaged frame pictured is from the 97SE Laserdisc, not 4K83. Of my sources, this frame is in 4K83 (clean), GOUT (clean), and 97SE (with damage), and is not present in 04SE/11SE/19SE. Additionally, in an image I’m saving for V2.1*, there is actually a repeated frame in the next shot of R2 in 04SE and 11SE, I assume to make up for removing the damaged frame of Leia. 19SE doesn’t bother to repeat a frame to keep the sync, it just removes the damage and goes on. I don’t know how this works with the audio sync, I’m not an audio guy (hence Visual Comparisons). I assume they didn’t repeat the R2 frame because they HAD notes from the HD Branch changes to redo, but not very accurate ones (which explains how they got SOME of the ships that disappear for a frame during ANH that were fixed for HD, but not all).
To be clear, the ONLY damaged version of this frame is in the 1997 Laserdisc. I’m very interested to see if 4K97_VI has it, it’s part of the reason why I’m donating directly to that scan.
It’s confusing, I spent a lot of time figuring out what happened in these two shots to get my frame-accurate sync. So much so that my wife came to check on me and saw the frame I was staring at and asked, concerned “Is that a butt on your screen?” “It’s Carrie Fisher, it’s fine”.
*V2.1 will be everything from V2.0 plus all of the changes made to earlier SE’s that were redone or undone, such the repeated R2 frame only in HD Branch and the gold LFL logo.
Did they rename Jabba’s rancor? Or is this a different Rancor?
Could be his mom?
“Solo” was clearly written to lead to aspects of the UOT, according to the writers at least. https://variety.com/2018/film/news/solo-a-star-wars-story-han-shot-first-lawrence-jonathan-kasdan-1202812392/
You’re telling me. I decided I should probably use EverNote to organize my SE research. So I finally got logged in and found that I had already started using it to organize my SE research. A DECADE AGO. I had articles in there I had completely forgotten about!
It was 2004.